id say for mage elidinas ward ma2 cape drop void for masori top/b. the reasoning is you really want nylos to instantly die, and yeah the void is cool for the higher max hits. but how important are those compared to the tics saved in nylo. id have to really study the nylo chart to determine if that is a worthwhile switch.personally, i hate not 1shotting nylos on mageand. or just drop bp for ward on magers. 3 blowpipes is definately alot for nylo cleanup already.. if all 5 players are using bp at the same time then something went wrong. nothing wrong with this setup though. just my personal preference and thoughts on 5mans
This might be the worst advice I've ever seen lol. For every 1000 bigs you attack with sang, you'll 1shot ~13 more of them in a 7way vs 5way. For every 1000 smalls you attack with sang, you'll 1shot ~44 more of them in a 7way vs 5way. This doesn't even include that, in practice, the majority(all but 4 or 5) of the mage bigs get doubled up on and a significant portion of the smalls will be barraged. Then on top of that, its exceptionally unlikely that the difference will be what causes you to lose time over poor decision making. You're more likely to lose a cycle to not having blowpipes than you are to not taking max mage Whereas you're much more likely to save a cycle on the boss itself with the +4 max hits on each mage in addition to the extra ticks of range damage you can get with blowpipe that would otherwise be wasted. Magic is the least useful combat type in tob outside of Maiden and this is the reason why mage switches are almost always the first to go when it comes to other gear in efficient raids or speed running. Also the grandmaster time is literally just "dont die" if you 1down bloat.
@@clickingstuff2433 lol dont be too hard on the guy, he's probably under 500 kc and started raiding in 2022. max eff had already died by that time so he had nobody around to teach him properly :p
why should dins dmg be split up into 2 sections? i feel like dins immediately on proc wastes so much potential by only hitting mainly 70s, please enlighten me.
dihns hits a maximum of 10 enemies, which is exactly the amount of crabs you'll hit if you spec directly after 50s. this dihns spec makes sure to hit all the 70s resulting in less variance in leak. if you both late dihns, some random 70s might end up with 70% and leak before the chins can take care of them. with early and late dihns, you deal with the pile in 2 sections and clean the remainder up with chins
you cant 1 down bloat with 2 pneckers. obviously most teams will wipe with inventories like this so adjust as is needed i guess. idrk as i dont do hmt with less than rec strats/teams so i left it out of the vid
don't forget swift blades in the 1d 5s setups! either lose the inquisitor or have your mages bring them. awkward 💀
Love your videos man, underrated UA-cam content.
This is great for TOBscapers
babe wake up new vasatus video just dropped
Incredibly relevant for my mid game ironman
now u know what to work towards !
Deiron angle?
@@Slabfish fr jagex ruining the gamemode with ironman-droptable mid level bosses anyway
@Vasatus As an iron I completely agree. Jagex shouldn't even consider irons when it comes to updates
@@Vasatus What would a non-ironman droptable even look like? Just drops pure GP?
Best dutchie content I can ask for
I was watching this in the morning 🤝
underrated, love the content!
Thanks for the vid!
Add the swift blades back to the last meleer setups :)
ah yes well there goes the inquisitor :p
Thank you for this, awesome guide
id say for mage elidinas ward ma2 cape drop void for masori top/b. the reasoning is you really want nylos to instantly die, and yeah the void is cool for the higher max hits. but how important are those compared to the tics saved in nylo. id have to really study the nylo chart to determine if that is a worthwhile switch.personally, i hate not 1shotting nylos on mageand. or just drop bp for ward on magers. 3 blowpipes is definately alot for nylo cleanup already.. if all 5 players are using bp at the same time then something went wrong. nothing wrong with this setup though. just my personal preference and thoughts on 5mans
masori is dogshit. blowpipe is a must have unless you get traded darts
This might be the worst advice I've ever seen lol.
For every 1000 bigs you attack with sang, you'll 1shot ~13 more of them in a 7way vs 5way.
For every 1000 smalls you attack with sang, you'll 1shot ~44 more of them in a 7way vs 5way.
This doesn't even include that, in practice, the majority(all but 4 or 5) of the mage bigs get doubled up on and a significant portion of the smalls will be barraged. Then on top of that, its exceptionally unlikely that the difference will be what causes you to lose time over poor decision making. You're more likely to lose a cycle to not having blowpipes than you are to not taking max mage
Whereas you're much more likely to save a cycle on the boss itself with the +4 max hits on each mage in addition to the extra ticks of range damage you can get with blowpipe that would otherwise be wasted. Magic is the least useful combat type in tob outside of Maiden and this is the reason why mage switches are almost always the first to go when it comes to other gear in efficient raids or speed running.
Also the grandmaster time is literally just "dont die" if you 1down bloat.
@@clickingstuff2433 lol dont be too hard on the guy, he's probably under 500 kc and started raiding in 2022. max eff had already died by that time so he had nobody around to teach him properly :p
Are there any vods or other resources showing how and when to god book for zcb?
not in a guide format, but you can watch vods to see what we do, or ask specifics in my discord for example
why should dins dmg be split up into 2 sections? i feel like dins immediately on proc wastes so much potential by only hitting mainly 70s, please enlighten me.
dihns hits a maximum of 10 enemies, which is exactly the amount of crabs you'll hit if you spec directly after 50s. this dihns spec makes sure to hit all the 70s resulting in less variance in leak. if you both late dihns, some random 70s might end up with 70% and leak before the chins can take care of them. with early and late dihns, you deal with the pile in 2 sections and clean the remainder up with chins
is no backpack rlly -300k on avg each nylo? tried to track it a few time and it was only like -130k so always binned it
it's about 100 darts
sounds like you missing blowpipe hits, bad rng xD
@14:44 *sniff
chuckle!
What is different for hmt?
you cant 1 down bloat with 2 pneckers. obviously most teams will wipe with inventories like this so adjust as is needed i guess. idrk as i dont do hmt with less than rec strats/teams so i left it out of the vid
Gringo scythe
raido and heydo? what the fuck is that?
rato and hato, max eff p1 verzik methods