It also doesn't mention carbon. Which nowadays they don't just use green leaves but also layer it with carbon rich matter like leaves or twigs and the likes ...
My father was a farmer and was fortunate to be able to get as much cow manure as he wanted. Some he added straight on the ground in the autumn and winter, and whatever was leftover he piled on the compost heap. Did him proud, that compost. Great veg every year.
I never knew people called compost manure. As far as I'm concerned, even if I'm wrong, compost is mostly decayed vegetable matter and manure is mostly something that has come out of an animal's bum.
I have all the manure I want unfortunately these days the bedding and feed is full of herbicide so I ruined half my garden for years everything came up twisted and marred.
@@AnthonyHandcockso animals eat vegetable matter and have already half composted for you in the form of shite. Shite also has more than just the vegetable matter it has lots of bacteria matter too. Which when composted as a hot compost destroys any bacteria and parasites like ecoli and worms etc. And then you can use it on plants after it has been composted. You wouldn't put fresh shit on plants as it is too harsh and burns the plants ..but once composted it is fine to use. Some plants tolerate fresh manure and the fresh manure of goats and sheep I believe is OK to use without composting..but you have to compost pig and cow manure before you can use it.
my grandpa grew up on a farm. he remembers putting the horse, cattle, and chicken manure in one pile and plant waste on the other. he had to help his mother re expand the veggie patch so that the farm workers could be fed too. she had made it smaller due to all but two children marrying and moving out. that was one of his jobs around the farm, until he was allowed to join up...
They didn't find out until late in the war that the land needed to be renewed after all the vital nutrients had been drained from it in previous years. The slaughter of livestock that took place at the start of the war to give the land over to vegetable production started to look like a really bad idea since there wasn't enough compost or chemical fertilizers available to sustain the land as the war dragged on. Many bloodlines were also wiped out in the slaughter, making some farm animals that were common before the war rare or non-existent after.
That sounds like the "Schweinemord" that happened in Germany in WW1. They thought killing pigs would free up food for people, but it was a massive disaster. Not only did they lose the manure, the crops failed in 1916 and instead of feeding the failed crop residue to the pigs and then eating pork, they had nothing at all.
@Beaguins yeah animals are amazing because they can eat a bad crop that humans can't and they do a lot of work as well you can even get pigs to use a plough im told. Never saw it done. And pigs can eat beach nuts and roots of weeds and all kinds of things a human couldn't even find to eat from grubby old shitty ditches and everywhere. They say they are intelligent and thats true but all their brains are focused on one thing only food. They will even eat love rats if they come across them. Snails...lord know what they wouldn't eat.
The modern way now is to make a box of solid sides so you don't get much air in the heap and it doesn't dry out around the sides and put an old carpet on top to keep in moisture to help it rot. I love these old videos.
MrBooojangles I don't recall having to worry about the heap drying out when I lived in UK, but times and methods (even the weather) have changed. It's good to experiment, although I personally don't like the plastic compost containers so, although I am now in Australia, I still prefer the open square method.
new vs old I've tried both, and I find this method shown here is by far the best way to make compost, and far cheaper than any other compost system or bin etc
Using a long-handled manure fork, which has much finer tines than the digging fork that this gent was using, will halve the effort of turning a compost. Tossing materials through the tines of a fork is very important as this oxygenates the heap and encourages a burst of new life. It is a fluffing process which calls for good moisture management and sizing some materials down before adding to the heap. In this demonstration, C/N ratios were very much too high, the heap could have been triple the size by adding just dry carbon to get to reasonable C/N ratios. Lots of carbon is needed here. Pine needles, leaves, sawdust, wood chips, chopped bark, dry grasses are the main requirement for good, easy to turn, and simple, compost, no bins required. I would estimate that using the methods shown in this demo, the piles are four to five times harder to manage than heaps with less long stringy stuff, lots more carbon, and 25% less water, and most importantly a good long handled four tine composters or manure fork. The best are cold forged steel, tough, and the tine slip into the heap without effort. The long handle saves much work.
I like how the guy is wearing a sports coat and trousers... clothes that today are considered much more formal. I can't imagine gardening with, in effect, a suit on.
I think clothes were hard to purchase and you tended to use them until they were worn out. Dress clothes in England were mostly made from wool and were warm enough to wear when working outdoors. Just like in the US in those days, you simply used what you had.
"A little sulphate of ammonia is sprinkled to speed up decay"... Ooooh.... 'Ark at 'im with 'is fancy talk... Peeing on your compost heap not good enough for you eh? :-D
How many people, even with an allotment can make enough compost to sustain the ground through the winter and into the next season? I have an allotment and I still have to beg or buy horse and cow manure and although I offer to pay the stable or farmer for delivery, They refuse to deliver it. This cost me a small fortune in petrol and time, as I have to collect it myself. Bill.
billsbasementworkshop where about in uk are you presume your in the uk the stables with horses majority of them give it away you need to collect it but some will deliver for free since they need to pay to dispose of it properly
@@carlduffin If you scroll down the comments until you find the person I tagged, you'll see I was answering a question about a pyramid-like structure in the background of one of the shots, not the compost heap itself.
It's a clamp for winter storage of carrots. There is another Ministry of Information Film showing how this actual clamp is made and also the making of a potato clamp. The same gardener is used in both films. Well worth a look.
I wonder what he means by using lime to stop the soil going sour? You can use urine in a compost instead of whatever chemical he mentioned there. Urine helps in breaking down compost.
A light sprinkle of wood ash will give you calcium, and ammonia forms all by itself in a compost with enough nitrogen. In fact, it is better to be cautious about ammonia as it indicates too much nitrogen. A well-balanced heap will make a lot of ammonium nitrate, but it will all be reabsorbed into the heap as it is produced. If you can smell it, you are losing nitrogen!
Suggestion: Strategically plant catnip near your composting area, so neighborhood cats have a reason to hang out, minimizing the local rodent population while they do.
and leaving cat shit all over the place and killing songbirds. No - I'll stick with the rats thank you, who do a great job of tunnelling in the compost to keep it aired.
Brilliant!! thank you for the handed down knowledge.
Best instructions on composting that I've seen. It was uncomplicated. Although, I have doubts that I can keep my compost heap in a tidy square!
It also doesn't mention carbon. Which nowadays they don't just use green leaves but also layer it with carbon rich matter like leaves or twigs and the likes ...
My father was a farmer and was fortunate to be able to get as much cow manure as he wanted. Some he added straight on the ground in the autumn and winter, and whatever was leftover he piled on the compost heap. Did him proud, that compost. Great veg every year.
SO, in a manor of speaking, your father was full of shit....lol x
I never knew people called compost manure. As far as I'm concerned, even if I'm wrong, compost is mostly decayed vegetable matter and manure is mostly something that has come out of an animal's bum.
I have all the manure I want unfortunately these days the bedding and feed is full of herbicide so I ruined half my garden for years everything came up twisted and marred.
@@AnthonyHandcockso animals eat vegetable matter and have already half composted for you in the form of shite. Shite also has more than just the vegetable matter it has lots of bacteria matter too. Which when composted as a hot compost destroys any bacteria and parasites like ecoli and worms etc. And then you can use it on plants after it has been composted. You wouldn't put fresh shit on plants as it is too harsh and burns the plants ..but once composted it is fine to use. Some plants tolerate fresh manure and the fresh manure of goats and sheep I believe is OK to use without composting..but you have to compost pig and cow manure before you can use it.
I think it's cool how he made a wall of old compost around a middle of new compost, inoculating the new with the old. I wouldn't have thought of that.
love these 'how to' films. This channel is like a never ending treasure trove. Please keep them coming!!
my grandpa grew up on a farm. he remembers putting the horse, cattle, and chicken manure in one pile and plant waste on the other. he had to help his mother re expand the veggie patch so that the farm workers could be fed too. she had made it smaller due to all but two children marrying and moving out. that was one of his jobs around the farm, until he was allowed to join up...
"Anyone with a good compost heap has no need to worry about farm yard manure."
Now those are some words to live by!
They didn't find out until late in the war that the land needed to be renewed after all the vital nutrients had been drained from it in previous years. The slaughter of livestock that took place at the start of the war to give the land over to vegetable production started to look like a really bad idea since there wasn't enough compost or chemical fertilizers available to sustain the land as the war dragged on. Many bloodlines were also wiped out in the slaughter, making some farm animals that were common before the war rare or non-existent after.
That sounds like the "Schweinemord" that happened in Germany in WW1. They thought killing pigs would free up food for people, but it was a massive disaster. Not only did they lose the manure, the crops failed in 1916 and instead of feeding the failed crop residue to the pigs and then eating pork, they had nothing at all.
They clearly had not learnt the lesson of the Middle Ages --- soil needs livestock.
@Beaguins yeah animals are amazing because they can eat a bad crop that humans can't and they do a lot of work as well you can even get pigs to use a plough im told. Never saw it done. And pigs can eat beach nuts and roots of weeds and all kinds of things a human couldn't even find to eat from grubby old shitty ditches and everywhere. They say they are intelligent and thats true but all their brains are focused on one thing only food. They will even eat love rats if they come across them. Snails...lord know what they wouldn't eat.
The modern way now is to make a box of solid sides so you don't get much air in the heap and it doesn't dry out around the sides and put an old carpet on top to keep in moisture to help it rot. I love these old videos.
MrBooojangles I don't recall having to worry about the heap drying out when I lived in UK, but times and methods (even the weather) have changed. It's good to experiment, although I personally don't like the plastic compost containers so, although I am now in Australia, I still prefer the open square method.
new vs old I've tried both, and I find this method shown here is by far the best way to make compost, and far cheaper than any other compost system or bin etc
@incongra Yes. They did encourage the saving of seed during the war because they couldn't import very much because of the blockade.
What's neat is that there's community compost collection in some towns, see if there's one near you.
Every Town.
I build my compost heaps just like this too, but I water each layer with urine and it rots down very quickly
The Last Spartan pure urine or water down
make a layer , head down to your local ,back to the plot take a leak on the compost …...repeat 😁
Sheila T. Drink some more water and repeat ♻️
Sheila T. For sure have you seen some composters using human manure too don’t waste it
Humans knew about this high edge technology even back then in the 1940s.? 🤯
Ain't that sad, clear.V.
mr chomondley warner
Using a long-handled manure fork, which has much finer tines than the digging fork that this gent was using, will halve the effort of turning a compost. Tossing materials through the tines of a fork is very important as this oxygenates the heap and encourages a burst of new life. It is a fluffing process which calls for good moisture management and sizing some materials down before adding to the heap. In this demonstration, C/N ratios were very much too high, the heap could have been triple the size by adding just dry carbon to get to reasonable C/N ratios.
Lots of carbon is needed here. Pine needles, leaves, sawdust, wood chips, chopped bark, dry grasses are the main requirement for good, easy to turn, and simple, compost, no bins required. I would estimate that using the methods shown in this demo, the piles are four to five times harder to manage than heaps with less long stringy stuff, lots more carbon, and 25% less water, and most importantly a good long handled four tine composters or manure fork. The best are cold forged steel, tough, and the tine slip into the heap without effort. The long handle saves much work.
I like how the guy is wearing a sports coat and trousers... clothes that today are considered much more formal. I can't imagine gardening with, in effect, a suit on.
I think clothes were hard to purchase and you tended to use them until they were worn out. Dress clothes in England were mostly made from wool and were warm enough to wear when working outdoors. Just like in the US in those days, you simply used what you had.
"A little sulphate of ammonia is sprinkled to speed up decay"... Ooooh.... 'Ark at 'im with 'is fancy talk... Peeing on your compost heap not good enough for you eh? :-D
The old ways was some of the best, people had more values those days.
ok boomer, must be off your dementia meds
I love compost.
How many people, even with an allotment can make enough
compost to sustain the ground through the winter and into
the next season?
I have an allotment and I still have to beg or buy horse and cow manure
and although I offer to pay the stable or farmer for delivery, They refuse
to deliver it. This cost me a small fortune in petrol and time, as I have
to collect it myself.
Bill.
billsbasementworkshop where about in uk are you presume your in the uk the stables with horses majority of them give it away you need to collect it but some will deliver for free since they need to pay to dispose of it properly
1941, a good year for me. The year of my birth!
Congratulations!!! I hope you have a long and happy live
@applecounty It's a clamp, which is used for storing root vegetables
root vegetables would rot in this.
A clamp is made from straw inside and earth outside.
@@carlduffin If you scroll down the comments until you find the person I tagged, you'll see I was answering a question about a pyramid-like structure in the background of one of the shots, not the compost heap itself.
Why would those leeks have been allowed to go to seed like that? - did they intend gathering the seeds?
What is that pyramid on the adjacent plot for?
it may be a potato clamp or parsnip clamp
It's a clamp for winter storage of carrots. There is another Ministry of Information Film showing how this actual clamp is made and also the making of a potato clamp. The same gardener is used in both films. Well worth a look.
@incongra They look like onions to me, to be honest - but yeah, I remember the older guys saving their own seed when my dad had an allotment.
This is 2013....my survival needs are updated.
I wonder what he means by using lime to stop the soil going sour? You can use urine in a compost instead of whatever chemical he mentioned there. Urine helps in breaking down compost.
In Britain the bedrock is very acidic so they had (and still have to) lime regularly to counteract the acidity.
Where do I get lime and sulphate of ammonia from ?
Lime from a garden supply shop, sulphate of ammonia - urine will do nicely; pour it on neat.
A light sprinkle of wood ash will give you calcium, and ammonia forms all by itself in a compost with enough nitrogen. In fact, it is better to be cautious about ammonia as it indicates too much nitrogen. A well-balanced heap will make a lot of ammonium nitrate, but it will all be reabsorbed into the heap as it is produced. If you can smell it, you are losing nitrogen!
There was no advice what to do when your compost pile starts pouring bees out of it like mine did 😢
In place of Ammonium Sulphate, use urine.
Suggestion: Strategically plant catnip near your composting area, so neighborhood cats have a reason to hang out, minimizing the local rodent population while they do.
and leaving cat shit all over the place and killing songbirds. No - I'll stick with the rats thank you, who do a great job of tunnelling in the compost to keep it aired.
Australian accent?
ngmulcahy british