How to make electronic music live without a laptop
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2015
- If you have any questions about anything in this video, please leave a comment and I'll probably make a follow-up video to address any of these.
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SYNTHS
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Roland TR8 - amzn.to/2IADsn0
Novation Circuit Groove Box - amzn.to/2IBllxn
Electribe - amzn.to/2Fq6V0W
Roland SP-404SX - amzn.to/2N4noOB
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Alesis SamplePad Pro - amzn.to/2N3sbzX
Omnichord - amzn.to/2IzQWiP
CONTROLLERS
LaunchPad - amzn.to/2WW5yls
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EFFECTS/PEDALS
Cathedral Reverb - amzn.to/2IzSPvR
Boss DD-3 Delay - amzn.to/2RqPIJu
Korg KP3 - amzn.to/2N3rF4Z
SOFTWARE
Ableton Live - amzn.to/2Fsygj5
SOUND RECORDERS
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MIDI
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Ugh the people commenting about the laptop, I'll just assume they just don't get it. It's just a convenience, it's not a creative part of the process, it's optional.
Nicely put :)
It's just used as a sequencer, but you gotta admit it's funny considering the video title.
No in this case Ableton sends a midi-clock signal so everything is synced by Ableton that's not the same as sequencing. The dude that made this is stating that he's using Ableton to do all sorts of things so I really don't get the title? Nice little jam he's got going though.
All that money can be replaced by software on a computer......So why all that hardware again?????
For myself....It is hard to find a friend or family member who does not have a computer or laptop in their home. So hardware isn't the problem. Oh I'm sorry......this is about creativity not finance. The filthy computer sucks the creativity right out of the fingers touching the keypads. Suck suck suck....
PS: IMO the band Wintergatan is more "creative" using everyday objects and hand made instruments to create music.
Why the hate?
i think this is what my grandma sees when trying to use my smartphone...
I laughed to hard at this comment lmao
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total cost: 3 kidneys
Ha! Love the multiple layers of interpretation.
Yeah but thats the real thing.
woah guys chill... no need to have a big dick on the internet, aight?
I would go as far as to say $5000,computer included!
you love kidney that much?
I love your setup. I am a 48 yo female from the US and have been working with keyboards and midi since the 80’s as a hobby. I can tell you that it is SO boring working with music on a computer. I actually used to work for a pretty famous company that made music software, soundcards and midi keyboards (long ago). The owner was involved with writing the midi standard. Everybody at the company thought that keyboards and outboard gear would be dead with computers, but just the opposite has happened. There is no fun to clicking a mouse. For true lovers of keyboards and midi music, they want their hands to be involved with moving with the music (like pressing keys on a keyboard, drum machine, etc.). People spend their money on what makes them happy. And anonymous animal is technically good at what he’s doing. Enjoy making your music, that’s what life is about.
I've been exposed to this since the 80s as well. Working with a Kurzweil K1000 and Korg SQD sequencer (remember the tiny disks?). It's so so interesting to see what was a very niche thing become THE thing that people wanna do. The world is weird.
For those saying that he could just do all of this with just a laptop, you are completely missing the point and obviously haven't been making electronic music long enough to understand. Sure, you could make something all on a laptop, but it is so uninspiring and boring clicking on tabs, sorting through too much junk and dialing in endless parameters with a fucking mouse. You don't need all the equipment this guy has, and the gear in this video is some of the cheaper gear you can buy. I use all hardware to create my music, and the only thing ableton is used for in my setup is mixing and arranging after the recording has been done. I used to make music using just software, but my productivity went up 800% after moving to hardware solutions. Software and Hardware are both valid solutions, each with their own pros and cons. The only cons of hardware are the price and limitations, but I would personally consider limitations a pro.
Your comment is very insightful. Learned something ty.
Sum Vigil yeah technically you can achieve that with a computer, technically you can also create a square wave by layering sine waves on top of each other but imagine jamming out 8bit with that pain in the ass in your creative process. it's not the same.
Nebula_ the Amiga 1200 was the last good computer.
Everyone here complaining about the laptop clearely doesn't know how electronic music production works, and that it is completely optionnal.
Thoses complaning that all of this is too expensive and who "can make music on a gameboy" : he never said it was necesary. A single synth is needed, but he uses multiples because more options is great. All of this costs 3500$ new, much less used. He's using the best low to mid range synths, so he's getting a great price/quality ratio. A macbook pro (ew) costs alone 1200-2800$, and good music vsts are in the hundreds. You can spend more on a single Roland synth ;).
Point of this vid is to show an analogue hardware setup, not brag. He's obviously a pro, it's his work station, and theses are great hardware choices, which give you a huge amount of live production freedom. Comparing digital to analogue often leads to a dumb conversation sadly.
Would you tell a pro harp player with his 15000$ harp that he's a show of for using expensive physical gear when you can get free shitty harp vsts online?
Luc thankkk youuuuu
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You obviously don't know how the English language works.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/without&ved=2ahUKEwjvybT5itDnAhXssIsKHUshA5IQFjAAegQICRAD&usg=AOvVaw3Sm8CB5PcVpMUVnOEqkCW0
Well now I have to find a harp players video and call him out
You can have all this digital in a laptop BUT it's so much more fun to do this with hardware
SavingPrivateDick not even close
Antonio Ivan Yes even close
Honestly, this stuff is definitely cool, but for someone starting out I'd definitely recommend a laptop and DAW because it's going to be a lot easier to experiment and see what works and doesn't in the software environment.
Pretty much yes, there's no comparison between working in a daw and using an actual synth, it just feels so much enjoyable and natural flowing. It's quite expensive tho
Now show us the barnacles of 9V adaptors that cling to the underside.
You do not want to see the rats nest that is my power setup...
CrassZorro barnacles lol :)
Your comment and his reply made me itch in disgust lol
God I hate how true this is. My feet get tangled up under my desk lmao
The absolute nightmare I've had trying to sync equipment (MC 909 , MicroBrute,TB 3 & Beatstep pro) I've visited many forums and gotten no help and even trawled UA-cam. Yet you have debunked it all for me , thank you x 1,00,000 . I was getting very frustrated. I just came across this video by chance.. Thanks again.
You're very welcome, we love hearing stories like this! Good luck with all your musical endeavours :)
+Keith Gibson I was, too. This video is a godsend! Nice job @AnonymousAnimal2
"Have a lot of money"
It's all mid-range gear, so probably not as pricey as it might look. Most anybody with a full time job and ordinary life expenses could scrape together that rig within two or three years, especially if you buy used.
guess its worth around 2,5k
True but you don't have to make music the same way he does.
with all that money I can make world class audio in laptop lol
Total cost is around $3300 USD.
Overall, none of the synths by themselves are that expensive, so it would be fairly easy to build up this kind of collection over time. Note that $3300 is cheaper than many synths alone.
Now THIS is what I call OBSESSION, why live any other way? I'm inspired to go create something. Subbed.
Man thank you! I was hoping this could be longer!! Very intuitive and Musical, keep on!
Thank you. This video has invigorated some of us "old guys" from the 80's and 90's who love gear, plain and simple. I just invested in the TR8 and TB3, they are not expensive! Let's not forget that these units are considered instruments, which is more than I can say for any laptop I've ever owned, then discarded a couple years later.
How to do it without a laptop. "well, the first thing in the chain is my laptop running Ableton." LOL
he means play a song without a laptop, he doesn't use the entire time. he doesn't even have it in frame lol.
Totally. Here is my song I wrote without my laptop but first I have to turn on my laptop to get the song.
Haha. Everyone knows-- You cant make music without a Laptop...without a laptop.
It's optional, he uses it out of convenience to save resources.
No he doesn't. He uses it as a midi clock, for fx and remixing purposes......his words. This means that during his set he either using it for audio processing or recording midi notes to play back on the other devices. Hence the APC 40. The laptop is an integral part of his, like most with people mountains of gear, set up as it keeps everything moving when he can't play an instrument. He records midi on to it then it plays the gear. This would be why the first thing he mentions is the laptop he apparently doesn't use.
very cool demo! i've changed my routing of midi and audio many times over the years. I likely spend more time wiring that playing. :/
We know the feeling!
...the meaning of the existence.
@Robert Pieper A Scrummer and a DJ too?
+Joshua Partogi guilty as charged.:
Cant you get one of those mixers to wire everything up into it?
Excellent set up man! Really good to see and understand how it all works!
Nicely done, I find it very interesting to see how others connect their various systems up!
When you said "Starting with the top of the midi clock chain we have my LAPTOP over here running Ableton live..." I was about to skip the video right away... luckily I didn't do it!!! Keep up the great work
Thanks!
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm just starting to get a setup together - Tr-8, Volca Bass with an Ultranova on the way. You have made it simple to understand this language!
Happy to help :)
Good to see someone who can use Roland Scatter in a right way!
I'm a huge hardware enthusiast, and for a while I was strictly limited to keep my live set as clean as possible, free of any screens whatsoever. But one day a close friend of mine introduced me to the world of MIDI, and that's where my life changed. Now I use an iPad to control as many synths as I can afford with the ability to program chords, rolls, automated CCs, and a huge universe of possibilities. I've learned that hardware is all about pushing its limitations, but MIDI really opens a realm of possibilities that internal sequencers just can't replicate easily. So to all hardware purists: Try using a laptop once. It's mind-blowing.
Cool use of your vocal samples. I especially like the up-pitched ones.
FN tight dude. The world needs more of this.
Nice hardware setup! Thanks for taking the time to talk about how it's all routed. I need to hook up my Venom and ES-1 again soon.
great!!!! awesome setup, great configuration! cheers
I've watched this like 5 times already. Excellent vid!!!
Watching it 5 more time....
Thanks for the video. That sounded great!
Solid tutorial for beginner to intermediate. Much appreciated my dude
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Pfff, please... Neil Armstrong wouldn't stand a chance.
this was really helpful thanks man. Ive been looking into using live loops in my set up and this has really inspired me. Id really like to see how you move between songs when doing live sets, unless you just use this for production
I've mainly just been using this in the studio, but the kp3s are awesome for transitions, because you can grab a small loop, filter it and trigger the next song in the background
This was fun to watch, thanks!
Thanks bro finally someone who isn't posting malware or fake stuff, you deserve my subscribe!
Nice video. Lots of gear to keep track of, too much for my simple mind :) Having synced patterns is amazing. I have played around with that a bit. It's nice to trigger stuff, and have it be perfectly in sync
great vid! love the midi routing explanation. I had a KP3 and couldn't get the sampling to sync right. as another person said here, it would start to drift. The esx1 is so great for chopping up vocals and spoken word.
Can't reply to the other person's comment so here's a copy/paste from my reddit post on this topic:
Sometimes (the sync drifts) a little, two things I do to avoid this
- if you change tempo, make sure you give the kp3s a few bars to catch up before you start sampling
- don't use different loop lengths at the same time eg. 4-beat and 16-beat.
Lastly if it does happen, a quick press of shift-tap tempo will restart the loops at zero
Amazing setup love it mate keep at it :)
i'm always fascinated by this kind of stuff
thanks for sharing your method and creative process.
its helping me strategize how i'm gonna get around to the
music i'm thinking of
this is how artists made electronic music back in the 80's
Super Sweet and informative. Thanks. I didn't even know what a Kaos Pad was until your video. :) I usually only plug in a synth, drum machine, and sequencer for my songs. It seems pretty simple compared to your amazing set up. Keep up the great videos.
+Machiwoomiapoo well your synths are way better then what this guy has. Kaos pad is really nice for loops though
I love his videos. He really knows how to use it all. I just bought a TR 808. I have to figure out how to use it with my Juno 60 and MSQ-700. Wish me luck.
+Machiwoomiapoo Thanks for the compliments, it's always really encouraging to hear that people are enjoying the videos.
Great setup!! Thanks for sharing
Nice video, was consistently entertained. Crisp beats. Thumbs up.
like way you have your Korg ESX as the focal point of the setup use to have that myself awesome piece of kit ;)
So have you tried the Roland MX-1? What would your setup be? I usually use the KP3 as the midi-clock source so I can scrub out on auto bpm.It would seem that the MX-1 could replace those tiny mixers and one of the kaos pads. It's big though, big foot print.
GENIUS!!!!!! LOVE YOUR STUFF!!
Great setup, great video, gave me some ideas to try with my own system. Thanks!
Next one, How to make electronic music with stones...
😂
Have you not seen the new i-stone yet?
you get that one bro.
That would be way more interesting than seeing kids joining a bunch of mp3 tracks and patches with a cut-and-paste software in a Mac and calling themselves artists or "DJs" (whatever it is).
as a laptop producer I can only imagine the feeling of having complete control over a setup like that, must be the closest thing to being god there is...
OMG, this is crazy. big thumbs up man!
So cool. Thank you for uploading!
1st step: spend $10000 on equipment.
2nd no skill or idea what you doing.
show us what you've done.
wow you strung some samples together, and changed the tempo. Fuckin' intense.
Thats a disrespectful way to express your opinion. But ok its clearly not for you.
or go to a cash converters buy a PS2 and a Gameboy and splice some crap together for less than a hundred bucks.... multi tracking via tape recorders
3:08 "I can side chain it"
Is side chaining an effect that is offered by the TR-3 or how do you achieve that with your setup?
Yup the Tr-8 has an awesome sidechain effect built in.
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pretty concise and clear examples of a live hardware setup and use. I use all hardware myself, though I don't use midi at all. Been thinking of making a similar video with my setup, and yours isn't too different from what I had in mind. Thanks for making it.
Awesome set up
Loved this
i use my laptop for midi clock like you and i record into audacity. i run 3 usb>midi cables so its kind of hard to get rid of the pc altogether.
Are you trying to make music or launch a nuke? o_O
Both
yeah dropping it
Very nice setup and inspiring !
Really enjoyed this video,. Thank you so much for explaining everything so clear made sense and very inspiring. Motivated me to keep on learning my own gear and spark some creativity using similar approach as what you have showed us here,
Titel: "How to make electronic music live WITHOUT a laptop"....
0:24 "We have my laptop over here"....
people bitching about how much your stuff costs.
I'm a guitarist. An Ibanez Prestige guitar and a Mesa amp with the standard tubescreamer and decimater setup is roughly $3,500.
Joecoolman26 thats your problem right there... buying an ibanez rather than an american deluxe strat or tele with a 100w deville tube combo amp, the whole thing would cost you 2800 plus tax
If you used some Volca/Korg boxes & the like, you can be a laptopless live musician for a couple of hundred quid. Even less, if you use Monotrons &/or those tiny Teenage Engineering do-dahs!
Easy.
Great setup and really helpful stuff thanks
I have an ipad with around a grand worth of synths, daws, sequencers , Arturia Pro fabfilter plugins, etc., but your rig makes me want to go hardware ;) . then I remember how fond I am of the portability, reminding me why I love my iPad setup.
*"without a laptop"*
"we have my laptop over here"
hahahaha, yea really fail
you don't know how electronic music production work do you
Luc Charruau No not at all my friend :)
Kraftwerk made electronic music without a laptop, so it's not really necessary to produce electronic music with a laptop.
So did many musicians before and after them. Computers made sequencing easier and allowed digital music production. Analogue electronic music dates back to at least the 60s. Kraftwerk were in the late 70s. They're the most famous early synth users but far from the first.
dude this is the first video I've watched of yours and I'm in love. what should I get/do first to get in this community?
We spend a lot of time on reddit.com/r/synthesizers
Otherwise get yourself a synth/drum machine/VST and have some fun! Welcome to the community :)
:D
same :D
get money
get money i think there is 15grand worth of stuff there
wow - such a great setup!
Nice work :) Great Video and demo. Thanks
All that matters is the result really. Aphex Twin said he prefers producing with analogues because it's more organic and has a human touch.
lol
This would be amazing if it wasnt for the worthless loop-funktion in KP3 that drifts as hell. I have tried this myself a couple of times. Epic rig, anyway!
Thanks man! great content!!
Great talent. Loved the improv!
This demo was siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick. So I have 2 questions. 1. Is this totally different from sequencer programs because it is all live 2. Where do you get your voice loops those chant or sounds the voices made. Please lmk with these questions it'd be a biiiiig help.
leonel sosa yes totally different because it's 'looped' rather than 'sequenced'
The vocals are all done live by me through the VT-3
Anonymous Animal 2 okay good to know, and alright. I've just been looking for vocal samples
this looks like fun
+James Joseph Sewell and expensive
+James Joseph Sewell About $3k. Give or take a few hundred depending on used deals or if purchased new. The same you'd spend on a shitty car or a vacation.
TenThousandFeetTall since 3,000 is just chump change, mind buying me some hardware?
It's always nice to see someone who is actually a musician! Too many just play the filter and barely that. Nice vid!
A very nice explanation of your setup. I like to watch this kind of videos to learn how some people get their results. And that can be quite challenging to understand if it isn't explained. So thanks for that. For me you showed here the practical use of the KP3. Thanks!
Very cool set-up. 2 Kaoss pad questions. How do you sync the KP3+ sampler to the MIDI clock? I find that even if I have sync enabled (as opposed to just matching the BPM) it seems to drift out of time after 3 or 4 minutes. Secondly, what are your favourite KP3 effects?
+Jeremy Warmsley They added a couple of other sync types in the last firmware. From memory, one of them is slightly better than the other two. Probably not much help, but a good place to start.
stuff like this is great except for one thing - moving it out of the studio to play live - utter hassle - thats why i use a laptop and midi controller now...great fun but breaking it down, transporting it and setting it up only to do the reverse at end of gig is a nightmare....
But who would want to watch you 'perform' your emails? Most musicians move their equipment around. It's worth it. Performance is Key in this! But good luck!
There's really no need to break it down,as long as you use the same setup. All of this can be mounted to 1 or 2 backing boards to carry as one piece each, then just plug your power and audio. Easy peasy
Seth Roberts and u also need a car for all that.....alot of hassle compared to a laptop and a midi controller...
GB3770
Put it on some wheels. Take the subway. Easy. Plus you won't look like you're sending emails on your mom's laptop. And you know, Analog.
Glen Brady yeh really practical - you are a genius..../sarcasm. As for analog i bet u could not tell the diff between analog and a decent vst with fx going thru a PA and 2. Most of the best DJs and live people use laptops...and like them no doubt i do not care if people think it looks like im doing emails - maybe you are a bit too fussed with ya image but ima about the music...im not as vain as you seem to be....:P This set up - on wooden boards etc ONLY makes sense if you have a van/car with huge boot to wheel it on - if u think u can scoot about the subway trucking this around then u obviously have never tried to do so.......
This is great dude. Clear explanations, appreciate it!
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Nice setup... great sounds!
Just buy a 24/32 track and be creative on each track! From an ageing musician....I repeat....MUSICIAN! 🕶
Step 1 get a shitload of equipment worth more than a laptop
Nah, get the laptop first because it's a handy way to record stuff (or a desktop with a decent soundcard) - as long as you have a decent sound card - then after learning some basics with softsynths you could start buying some hardware, once you know what you are doing and have played around with some emulator vstis to figure out what you actually want (saves spending hours in stores demoing their stuff). Once you start making music seriously you'll want more and more kit, I want craploads of ethnic stringed instruments and classical string like cello, double bass.. and some timpani drums lol.. but I got the computer (and then guitar) first.
+Jock Ronayne my thoughts exactly
That setup can be had cheaper than a Macbook pro, Ableton with numerous plugins and a Traktor Kontrol S4 (The setup every fucking hipster "Producer" seems to own)
YUP I 2nd PUU-TAAH
Josh Willis m
Brilliant setup my man
for everyone who is saying "he literally started the video by saying it starts with his laptop"
two seconds after that, he said he only has it on the laptop for remixing and effects, and he could easily do it with the Roland TR8 starting.
6:38 straight from hotline miami
nice, got it ! now where is the music please?
Great setup! :)
Wow! nice set-up dude.
This is just AWESOME!
title: without a laptop
first sentence: first I send a midi signal from my laptop
this does not make sense 😂😂
Basically click bait bullshit.
+Coen Bijpost we love you
This is completely awesome!
Fantastic demonstration.
u pley keyborb reel gud
You are an ELECTRONIC god
Thanks! This explains a lot.
fabulous set up!
Or you can make electronic music with a desktop PC. Not a laptop :D
not all that portable to the stage...
***** Still more than all these synths. I was just kinda joking anyway.
Turtle Cake k
Or you can make any kind of music sitting on the toilet :D
***** mostly toots
Step 1: Throw away your £2000 macbook
Step 2: Buy £15,000 in analogue electronic music gear
everything here costs 3500$ max new, and can be bought for 2/3 of that used.
So
Step 1: Throw away your $2000 macbook
Step 2: Buy $2300 of analogue electronic music gear
actually, there's no analogue gear in this video.
***** ... Are you blind?
Analog SIGNAL, yes, but all this gear technically runs on digital processing.
Nice man, those chaos pads look sick. and that vocoder
Way to go. This would be beneficial for live music.
what is the price for all this
Just take out a small loan of a million dollars
Around $3000,- is enough to buy it all new.
its actually quite cheap for what it offers
HAH! "ThirdFakeOfMoon"...good one :D
Same money to buy you a brand new powerful laptop
You're a fucking wizard
Harry.
Very nice work!
Thank you! Like the video a lot! Help me to understand MIDI etc.