The two big screws we see at 7:19 in the Engine Pro can break very easily and at any moment they are very weak & they must be very strong. And this is very dangerous.
Glad you pointed out the torque nut thing on the front wheel of the EP-2 Pro because the benefits of that is that you can fit a front hub motor if it's under 500w without the need for a torque arm.
If the hook bothers you, get a second slimmer axle bolt, tighten it over the first, I’ve been cycling for over 50 years now and never known a front or rear wheel come loose (with rider error of course it’s possible, ie not tightening the axle properly…)
I am a big fan of slightly under torqueing - but with a decent lock washer and/or additional threadlock. There is more than one way to make things safe without compromising the thread itself.
Very good comparison. I have spotted another difference from watching your video. The EP2 as a lower Steel fork and the engine pro has a aluminium lower fork. Great video by the way.
Just in the last month, I saw the Engine listed as 80 nm torque. Last year, befor they upgraded it, it had regen of up to around 900 watts rechage when in 0, 1 and 2 mode. That was one of the reasons I have the Engine on my short list, but wonder if it still has regen on the upgrade, the only folding fat tire I've seen with regen. If on going down alot of big hills, it would give more range and also save on the brakes.
I think if you live in a hilly area or you intend to use in a hilly area regen braking is going to be a huge advantage. As something of a comparison - I have a Nissan LEAF with 57k on the clock still on the original brake pads - that is of course in no small part thanks to regen braking removing most of the wear and tear from my pads as well as providing a little boost to the battery = win-win!
Turn the offset it looks like they’ve got a higher quality set of folks at the front, it also looks like the lighting is a lot higher quality as well on the engine
I had the same issue and the same concern with the nut on the front , I feel it is potentially Very dangerous as there is no scope to tighten the front nut without it being over tightened , I feel it is necessary to check the front nut before and after every use , thank you for your observation as I am reassured that I am not being paranoid.
Good comparison, , my EP2 pro is limited in Australia and it knobs out at 25KMH and spineless on a hill, Over reach Governing laws are suffocating, does anyone know a way to remove the restrictions on the bike..
Great video! But personally I would have preferred you had ridden the Engine Pro to do a proper comparison as the comparison is really 50% looks and specs with the other 50% riding comparisons. That said what this great video does is open the path to another video comparing the 2 e-bikes for ride-ability (comfort, range, top speed etc) - I look forward with interest despite the fact I think I probably already know I will be plumping for the Engine Pro.
11:00 (nuts on the wheel) wouldn't be a deal breaker for me cause you can always put locktight on it which can secure your nuts and you don't have to overtight them.
You could put a little paint on the wheel nut to make sure it isn't coming undone. Try and use a torque wrench for tightening. Their not that dear these days.
Man I got a ecotric bike and although I love it, I really like the way this bike looks and the mag wheels and the back rack is heavy duty looking. Looks nice
Am I the only one who thinks Engine Pro is much better? It's $300 more but it also has much better quality details... And you pay for safety, better screen, safer, more comfortable wheel support. And it's more bodied.
@@e-VRC i agree… I've been seeing that there is the option to buy the ebike through alibaba from Chinese suppliers with stock in Europe, it's around $1080 to Engine Pro. Will it be a good purchase option? 😅
Looks like you got the old version of the ep2 pro. I got the new 2022 version and its light years better than the old version. Better motor, better battery, lot more torque, easily reaches 30mph, and you can boost the amp controller to 25amps in the settings. Eats hills for breakfast, you can also fit a 16ah battery in it
..but on EP2 PRO controller max current is 18Amp ( you can read it on label), on engine pro is 23Amp. Did you really noticed difference when change to 25Amp? And how long you can drive before controller burn? BR Neno
At 3:07 I noticed your rear tire of your EP-2 Pro got scratched. I suspected it must be from the chain rub when you switch to your bigger gears. I may be wrong but please check it out if there is a chain rub on your rear tire when you switch gears to bigger gears. It may not be safe to ride. It could be your wheel is not true or you have a bent derailleur.
Thanks! I love the rear suspension, the airdraulic forks, portability, and Mongo-Rack! Maybe add better handlebars, twist throttle and rearview mirrors...
@@e-VRC My G-Force T42 arrived yesterday on my 73rd bday. It's my Super 73 bike! lol... Love it actually. $849 got me 750/1100W motor, 48V 11.2AH batt, fenders, Awesome H.D. Rack, Does 36mph freewheeling,.. Headlight/horn, tail/brake lights, Hydraulic Brakes/180mm rear, 160mm front. But it's Huge! 33" min seat ht. 10" ground clearance to the chain ring guard... It's basically the Engine Pro less rear suspension and $600...
@@johnw65 that's awesome. I love the look of their bikes. I spoke to them and they don't ship to the UK right now but when they do they'll send one for a video. Enjoy it then they are so cool! 🤟👍👍
So the engine pro has less torque? Oh no. Its a nice looking bike, and they are doing a special with a spare battery right now. I'm so confused some of the comments says it's more powerful 😤
@@e-VRC I see. Its looks nice in that navy colour. What's you're view on the spare battery thing, are the handy enough to fit in a back pack, Do you really need one? Its kinda tempting to go for that deal.
They might have the same motor but i think the controllers are different. I'll be releasing a hill climb video this week. Considering the manufacturers torque claims the results were interesting.
Achei estranho o torque de 80Nm já que no site da ENGWE não consta esse valor ??? Você poderia também identificar as bikes no vídeo...porque fica dificil acompanhar, principalmente pra quem não entende sua língua... mas seu vídeo é excelente....obrigado
@@paulgtal Aside from the fact that I am not a native English speaker, my comment was never about spelling (or any other grammar aspect), but about "mechanical" vs "hydraulic" disk brakes. So maybe you want to re-watch the passage in question and get your reaction in order? A "buddy" would do that... ;-)
What is the torque on the Engine Pro and EP-2 Pro? On the manufacturer's website, both have 55 N.m. Elsewhere the EP-2 Pro is reported to have 80Nm and has a planetary gear and the Engine Pro only 55Nm and has no planetary gear but direct drive. So how is it right?
Hard to say as engwes specs seem to get a bit muddled. Engine should be more than the Ep because it can get up the hill climb test throttle only but Ep can't. However, geared hubs like the Ep have better torque but less top end than gearless like is in the Engine. But the engine has more juice flowing through it.
02:48, that's not good. It didn't take much to chip it. It only has a dusting of paint on it.! 😳 How is that micron thick paint going to last with stones being thrown up from the front tyre?
THe Engine Pro Has hydraulic brakes, usb charger, slightly higher range and batter capacity. I do wonder how those hydraulic brakes work, I gues they have oil inside? Havnt heard anyone state it.
It's like a fluid. When you pull the lever it pushes the fluid down the tubes against the caliper which causes it to close around the disc. They're so nice. Never used them before this bike.
Hello there I’m having some trouble on my ep2 The pedals aren’t working only my throttle but that’s not legal in my country How can I fix this The bike is not one year old I bought it last June Thanks in advance
Great Video! Can i ask, i brought the EP-2 Pro thinking i was buying the Engine Pro, rushed purchase! question! do you think you could change screens? i prefer the colour screen :)
Have you tried your kid's saddle to your engine pro? I'm currently looking for a saddle for my daughter ,all i see are having 120 - 175mm wide, but the engine pro almost got 203mm wide for it's carrier. Thanks
Hi bro I just got the enguwie pro black red I get in speed 24to 25kmh how can I make it faster without risking messing it up I paid 1300 only last week for it in shop in Dublin tallagh Ireland but they put it together for me now weather has been shit but I used it 3 times only so far love it I'd like it to be bit pokyer daughter has scooter does 24kmh too but bike is 2vtimes as fast is there any gears I should keep it in for fastest all time
WARNING: !!!! Bought mine in 2020 so I didn't have to use public transport in London. I have ridden it almost every day, a round trip of about 5 miles, and I would fold it and keep it in my house when not in use.. Today, as I was about to head home, the frame snapped just behind the hinge. The bike is now in two pieces and nothing more than a pile of junk.
Good afternoon, do you know the length of these electro fatbikes, one and the other?I apologize for the mistakes, I'm writing to Google translator.66in?68in?
When I looked into this bike. It doesn't come fitted with the throttle. It has been disconnected to comply with UK laws. The throttle is in the box but not connected. A bit strange them doing that knowing how our laws are. It's like turning a blind eye to it.
In the UK do these bikes need to be registered and insured if they go 45km/h? I'm in France and need to debate getting this bike and paying insurance on it or buying something that goes slower. These e-bike laws are a shame.
Thanks for review, do you know if you can lock the throttle on these bikes to the 25km/h for EU regulations. I know Engine X throttle is locked to 25km/h, can be unlocked, I'm in Ireland, only seen Engine X on the roads. I'd love to get an X26 or M20 but I'd need theory test, tax and insurance, bright jacket, number plate to use it on roads.
Hi mate,, thanks for this vid , very informative ..Have you had the opportunity to test the latest full suspension Engwe 750 watt the 17a battery ,if so is it worth the extra ££’s.. also can you recommend a UK Dealer for the Engwe . Alan ( new sub)
Hey there. No I've not tried another Engwe since the Engine pro. I'm not aware of any uk engwe dealers, most people I've spoken to get it direct from Engwe. There's a few uk stores that stock them from a google search but I've not had experience with any of the stores unfortunately.
I love the company but apparently they aren't available in America, unless I made a mistake searching online. How can I buy an ebike from a company that's overseas from where I live in New York.
I assumed they do ship to america. Companies have warehouses in different parts of the world to allow them to ship bikes there. Often UK get bikes from German warehouses. There is an affiliate link in the description that takes you to the US site 👍
@@e-VRC they ship yes absolutely But I don't like buying an ebike from a company based overseas where you can't make a local phone call within the USA if you need customer service
@@stevenlawrence5733 oh sorry it was rhetorical! Sorry I get ya. Yeah that is a conundrum. I see it as it's much cheaper. So if something is broken they can send the parts and then we can either sort it ourself or pay a little for the local bike / scooter shop to do it. You pay extra to buy local and some will prefer that.
Totally up to you. I probably wouldn't go with ebay. Maybe amazon if the seller is trusted with lots of great reviews and delivery time suits you, otherwise use their official site.
@@e-VRC I get sick of it in the end with went with the ado 20 plus rather than the Fat tire as it just screams look at me.. I want to insure it, people will steel these bikes given any chance chance.
Hey matey, tha ks for video. I have the Engwe Engine pro and the misses has ordered the Engwe pro 2. She rides our daughter to school who is 6 and. What seat you using on the pro 2 to take your son around as we will need to get a new seat. Cheers
Hey! There's a link in the description but it's often out of stock. However there are a few that look similar on amazon and despite differing review scores they're usually the same. Definitely a decent purchase and cool to be able to ride the little ones around, they love it 👍
@e-VRC yeah cheers. Found it. Bike turned up today......along with the snow! Doh! My first ride I'm going to take down by birmingham airport through Sheldon Park so should be able to really push it if not too many people around! 👍
Hi, thanks for your video! I am about to buy the Engwe EP-2 and I would like to transport my 6 year old son in the rear rack with a system similar to yours. Do you think the system is safe? Does the rack hold 25 kg well? Thanks in advance.
If you are wanting to take a kid on the back it might be worth looking at a rad power bikes radrunner or radrunner Plus. They are a little bit more expensive but are built for the task with motorcycle style foot pegs etc.
Unless you've got a wheel guard and foot pegs I really wouldn't carry your child on it. It would be so easy for your his/her foot to become entangled it the wheel. Serious injury no doubt.
4:50 you have this the wrong way round. Mechanical brakes, you have to pull harder to increase the braking force. Hydraulic brakes will give you much better braking force with less effort. Hydraulic are always better.
Just wanted to tell you the pro isn’t worth it as the ep 2 pro can be upgraded to the same hydraulic brakes. You can put on zoom hydraulic brakes for massive performance gains there. Then controller and dual battery upgrade
Hi..the saddle seat for your son... where did you get it and is there a place for his feet? looking to get one for my daughter..get review and I bought the engine pro
Hello, hope you are doing well! Thanks a lot for the review! I've searched through million reviews, and thanks a lot, seems you are among few people who using this bike with childseat! Could you pls advise, if you are pedalling, if it's still enough place for child legs? I really want to buy bike more powerful then 250w and wth throttle in EU (Netherlands) and use it with childseat and seems that's one of few affordable models, but still not sure if there would be enough space fpr kid. And second question, how do you think, would it be possible to use this bike with the childseat like Hamax (with loker)? Thanks a lot!
I don't sell parts. You can get things like bmx handlebars from ebay or amazon though. The p26 is nice and has a low bar. I've done a first look and first ride of that bike. It's very nice!
All engwe-low quality bikes. I bought engine pro-black upgrated version, some bolts is too long, should cut them. Some small wrong shape bolts was changed. Some bolts was not tighted from factory-made that. Paint is not from povder done-it's cheapest painted from airpistol-easy to scratch. Skin is not straight sewed on bike saddle. Welding on aluminium frame is not so beautiful and accurated, as machine welding. The buttons and gear numbers without backlight, you can see nothing at night driving. Charging port is 0,5 ampers, you can't charge your phone. Rubber plug on charging port is not so soft, and can't close hole hermetically. No hermetisation gasket on folding place on the frame, water comes in slowly on rain. Handle to lift up bike is too short for small hand, and no balance, when you lift it up. There is much problems on engwe bikes. What about relable electronics, I don't know, but I saw negative comments on amazon about engine pro controller. There is weak frame place on back suspension fork-very thin(where back fender bolt is screwed in)-can broke after some years. Of cource same bike with ideal quality could not costs 1100€, it should be cost around 3000€ p.s. and ignition key place without any protection, water coming in while driving over puddle.
I just got rid of my unlocked Mate X 750w, 18 months of fun but expensive, im looking at the Engine Pro as its £1250 UK sourced and new, you reckon its about the same as my Mate X in terms of speed etc? TIA!!
Do you recommend the EP-2 PRO for driving on the campus and visiting some places in a small town? Or do you think worth expending more 350 dollars to get the Engine PRO version? Also, I want to know if you had some problem with the customer support, I read some stuff about people having problem to talk to them and I got a little bit worried about it... This is the best bike I found in the $1.050,00 price range and I would love to know your opinion about these stuff I talked, thanks!
For what you want the ep2 pro will be fine. Engine pro has lots of nice stuff but not needed for what you want. I'm not sure about customer support though since they sent the bike for review.
It's because you don't have to pull the brakes as hard. They pull the same if you can pull the mechanical brakes hard. But i think hydraulic brakes get to their max braking force slightly faster.
Has anyone bought the spare battery. Is it worth the extra few hundred euro? Obviously, in theory, you can double the life span of your e bike, but is it gimmicky? A battery should last it's cycle's.
I think the only good reason to buy it is if you want to travel with it to double range. Most of the time you'd have one battery just sitting there discharging. You could swap the batteries every time but that would quickly become a chore.
@@HitchHikersBlues it would fit but it is a bit heavy. You can see the batteries on my battery swap video - I hold them so you can get a feel for the weight.
@@e-VRC How heavy are the engwe batteries roughly? Oh I see yeah. I'm just wondering is it worth spending the extra 150 for the spare battery. Decisions decisions.
So you'll be experiencing famous Chinese quality: screws get rusty after 4 rains, misaligned brake callipers, noise from the motor starts to appear when you're going up to the hill in 2-3 months . And speed of the bike is different depends on the battery charge. And Chinese manufacture dose not provide real numbers for power ...Zero support. But cheap and not bad as a first e-bike. But no way to buy it again )) Reply
What about the ADO XEs? I like my A20 but the only thing that annoyed me on my A20 was the stand could not be adjusted. If you tried to alter it it wouldn't tighten meaning I had to spend £15 in Halfords buying a new stand that is bright silver against black! I did msg Mark4shop and Mark sent a vid on how to adjust it. However, in a later phone call he admitted that he'd had the same problem as me and the stand was fkn shite! This reason is why I never gave them a review on Trustpilot despite their customer service being otherwise above excellent. If Mark4shop read this and refund me my £15, actually; let's say £20 for petrol and time wasted in faffing about then I will give them top marks. However, I don't think Mark or Alice watch your channel so... 😭
@@e-VRC Because that could be seen as them bribing me haha. It doesn't really matter as I'll probably buy my next ebike from them as well when I choose to upgrade so at least they have a loyal customer... Despite the shitty stand issue.
You should be ashamed of of yourself for promoting this company. Do NOT deal with this company... you will not receive the bike within the 3 to 10 workings days. I ordered the bike end of April. I have just received an email stating it will be June before they can ship it to the EU, but not before I provide them with VAT and EORI NUMBERS? The bikes are not in a EU warehouse, they are shipped from China. I should have looked at reviews before I placed my order as it seems to be a common trait with this company. DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS COMPANY!
I've now tested the Engine Pro. WOW!
ua-cam.com/video/oKAnRN3HBt4/v-deo.html
Links to videos on both bikes in the description and at the end :)
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥👍
The two big screws we see at 7:19 in the Engine Pro can break very easily and at any moment they are very weak & they must be very strong.
And this is very dangerous.
Glad you pointed out the torque nut thing on the front wheel of the EP-2 Pro because the benefits of that is that you can fit a front hub motor if it's under 500w without the need for a torque arm.
If the hook bothers you, get a second slimmer axle bolt, tighten it over the first, I’ve been cycling for over 50 years now and never known a front or rear wheel come loose (with rider error of course it’s possible, ie not tightening the axle properly…)
I am a big fan of slightly under torqueing - but with a decent lock washer and/or additional threadlock. There is more than one way to make things safe without compromising the thread itself.
Very good comparison. I have spotted another difference from watching your video. The EP2 as a lower Steel fork and the engine pro has a aluminium lower fork. Great video by the way.
Thanks very much and good spot 👍
Interesting observation... I'm going to start learning more about forks now. Thats a whole-nuther science...
Just in the last month, I saw the Engine listed as 80 nm torque. Last year, befor they upgraded it, it had regen of up to around 900 watts rechage when in 0, 1 and 2 mode. That was one of the reasons I have the Engine on my short list, but wonder if it still has regen on the upgrade, the only folding fat tire I've seen with regen. If on going down alot of big hills, it would give more range and also save on the brakes.
I think if you live in a hilly area or you intend to use in a hilly area regen braking is going to be a huge advantage. As something of a comparison - I have a Nissan LEAF with 57k on the clock still on the original brake pads - that is of course in no small part thanks to regen braking removing most of the wear and tear from my pads as well as providing a little boost to the battery = win-win!
Turn the offset it looks like they’ve got a higher quality set of folks at the front, it also looks like the lighting is a lot higher quality as well on the engine
I had the same issue and the same concern with the nut on the front , I feel it is potentially Very dangerous as there is no scope to tighten the front nut without it being over tightened , I feel it is necessary to check the front nut before and after every use , thank you for your observation as I am reassured that I am not being paranoid.
Note to self : Engine pro has things that are “chunky” compared to the other
😂😂
Good comparison, , my EP2 pro is limited in Australia and it knobs out at 25KMH and spineless on a hill, Over reach Governing laws are suffocating, does anyone know a way to remove the restrictions on the bike..
Great video! But personally I would have preferred you had ridden the Engine Pro to do a proper comparison as the comparison is really 50% looks and specs with the other 50% riding comparisons. That said what this great video does is open the path to another video comparing the 2 e-bikes for ride-ability (comfort, range, top speed etc) - I look forward with interest despite the fact I think I probably already know I will be plumping for the Engine Pro.
11:00 (nuts on the wheel) wouldn't be a deal breaker for me cause you can always put locktight on it which can secure your nuts and you don't have to overtight them.
You could put a little paint on the wheel nut to make sure it isn't coming undone. Try and use a torque wrench for tightening. Their not that dear these days.
Man I got a ecotric bike and although I love it, I really like the way this bike looks and the mag wheels and the back rack is heavy duty looking. Looks nice
Yeah it's like a bike tank 😂
😂, I definitely might have to buy one of those bike tanks 😄. I really like it
Am I the only one who thinks Engine Pro is much better? It's $300 more but it also has much better quality details... And you pay for safety, better screen, safer, more comfortable wheel support. And it's more bodied.
I think most people think it's better.
@@e-VRC i agree… I've been seeing that there is the option to buy the ebike through alibaba from Chinese suppliers with stock in Europe, it's around $1080 to Engine Pro. Will it be a good purchase option? 😅
Did you get from alibaba@@NunoOliveiraSkanck
Looks like you got the old version of the ep2 pro. I got the new 2022 version and its light years better than the old version. Better motor, better battery, lot more torque, easily reaches 30mph, and you can boost the amp controller to 25amps in the settings. Eats hills for breakfast, you can also fit a 16ah battery in it
Nice. It was good before so glad they made it even better.
The setting controller is manual? It is easy?
Where can you order the 16ah battery?
Good afternoon! please tell me how to unlock 25amp?
..but on EP2 PRO controller max current is 18Amp ( you can read it on label), on engine pro is 23Amp.
Did you really noticed difference when change to 25Amp? And how long you can drive before controller burn?
BR
Neno
At 3:07 I noticed your rear tire of your EP-2 Pro got scratched. I suspected it must be from the chain rub when you switch to your bigger gears. I may be wrong but please check it out if there is a chain rub on your rear tire when you switch gears to bigger gears. It may not be safe to ride. It could be your wheel is not true or you have a bent derailleur.
Thanks I'll check that out
Thanks! I love the rear suspension, the airdraulic forks, portability, and Mongo-Rack! Maybe add better handlebars, twist throttle and rearview mirrors...
Yeah handlebars is something I'd like to change at some point.
@@e-VRC My G-Force T42 arrived yesterday on my 73rd bday. It's my Super 73 bike! lol... Love it actually. $849 got me 750/1100W motor, 48V 11.2AH batt, fenders, Awesome H.D. Rack, Does 36mph freewheeling,.. Headlight/horn, tail/brake lights, Hydraulic Brakes/180mm rear, 160mm front. But it's Huge! 33" min seat ht. 10" ground clearance to the chain ring guard... It's basically the Engine Pro less rear suspension and $600...
@@johnw65 that's awesome. I love the look of their bikes. I spoke to them and they don't ship to the UK right now but when they do they'll send one for a video. Enjoy it then they are so cool! 🤟👍👍
@@e-VRC Yeah and with the MCINTOSH discount it's only $849 through the end of today for the T42 which is basically a hardtail Engwe Engine Pro
@@johnw65 it's a nice frame. Like the ado a20f it's sleek. It's their ZM bike I've got my eye on. Like a little motorbike.
So the engine pro has less torque? Oh no. Its a nice looking bike, and they are doing a special with a spare battery right now. I'm so confused some of the comments says it's more powerful 😤
It's a miss print. It does have more torque. Hill climb test proves it too. It's quite a bit faster aswell.
@@e-VRC I see. Its looks nice in that navy colour. What's you're view on the spare battery thing, are the handy enough to fit in a back pack, Do you really need one? Its kinda tempting to go for that deal.
Front mudguard connector bar was straight on mine as well. Had to bend it myself and yeah, annoying.
Hi, I think the engine pro has a 1000watt engine.
Can you make a short video EP2pro how to change the settings on display please. It’s too complicated. Thanks
I see at 12.09 time in video EP2-pro has 80Nm torque and ENGINE pro 55Nm torque. They do not have same 750w motor? Why torque is not the same?
They might have the same motor but i think the controllers are different. I'll be releasing a hill climb video this week. Considering the manufacturers torque claims the results were interesting.
I rode my road bike across town, lifted it to lock it, the front wheel rolled away. Been loose all the way.
Learnt alot great vid 👍
Thanks!
Achei estranho o torque de 80Nm já que no site da ENGWE não consta esse valor ??? Você poderia também identificar as bikes no vídeo...porque fica dificil acompanhar, principalmente pra quem não entende sua língua... mas seu vídeo é excelente....obrigado
Interesting yours has twist throttle . Haven't seen any other engine pros like it. I am missing something?
Great video! Thanks Al
Thanks!
4:50 should be "hydraulic disc breaks". - Excellent comparison! Thank you very much!
Oh yeah!! Thanks... 😬😬😬 glad you found it useful though 😊
Wrong should be disc "brakes" learn to spell !!!
@@paulgtal Learn to be friendly
@Robert Wildling Good spelling Rob, a lot of people get the I and the e the wrong way around, Take care buddy 👍😉😁
@@paulgtal Aside from the fact that I am not a native English speaker, my comment was never about spelling (or any other grammar aspect), but about "mechanical" vs "hydraulic" disk brakes. So maybe you want to re-watch the passage in question and get your reaction in order? A "buddy" would do that... ;-)
Great video!
Thanks!
You forgot to mention the rechargeable capabilities of the EP2 Engine
What is the torque on the Engine Pro and EP-2 Pro? On the manufacturer's website, both have 55 N.m. Elsewhere the EP-2 Pro is reported to have 80Nm and has a planetary gear and the Engine Pro only 55Nm and has no planetary gear but direct drive. So how is it right?
Hard to say as engwes specs seem to get a bit muddled. Engine should be more than the Ep because it can get up the hill climb test throttle only but Ep can't. However, geared hubs like the Ep have better torque but less top end than gearless like is in the Engine. But the engine has more juice flowing through it.
Which one is better engwe pro 2 or engwe pro
i noticed some of the engine pros have twist throttle and some have thumb. is it the newer ones have twist?
Qual tipo você acha melhor ?????
I'm looking at buying the ep 2 Pro next week can it rev and go without peddling ps fab video
02:48, that's not good. It didn't take much to chip it. It only has a dusting of paint on it.! 😳
How is that micron thick paint going to last with stones being thrown up from the front tyre?
I have a question ? Can I put two bags for a rear rack ? Well done to you for good job .
Like the ones that hang down? I think so but I haven't tried it. Thanks for watching 👍🤟
to work as a courier, delivery making deliveries, which bike up to €1050 would you recommend?
What did you bought??
Aren't they too powerful for UK roads, by law?
Very good!
how many kilos does the rear rack of the ep-2pro bicycle support?
@@gabriellluis7433 good question. I'd say 15kg but this is the old ep2 pro so it could have changed.
Make a video of fitting the seat in the bije
Hey I love the video and helped me decide. I'm more curios and the saddle chair. Where did you get it?
That's from amazon i think there's a link below but if not just search and read reviews. This one was only 3-4 stars but it seems decent.
THe Engine Pro Has hydraulic brakes, usb charger, slightly higher range and batter capacity.
I do wonder how those hydraulic brakes work, I gues they have oil inside? Havnt heard anyone state it.
It's like a fluid. When you pull the lever it pushes the fluid down the tubes against the caliper which causes it to close around the disc. They're so nice. Never used them before this bike.
Hello there
I’m having some trouble on my ep2
The pedals aren’t working only my throttle but that’s not legal in my country
How can I fix this
The bike is not one year old
I bought it last June
Thanks in advance
Couldn’t you use some thread lock on the front fork?
The paint shouldnt come me off like that with a small pass over nick 😅
😬😬😅
Great Video! Can i ask, i brought the EP-2 Pro thinking i was buying the Engine Pro, rushed purchase! question! do you think you could change screens? i prefer the colour screen :)
I'd ask engwe about that.
Any idea on the weight each rear cargo support could hold? What limits please?
@@tiagon19 I think engine pro is 25kg and ep2 15kg
Have you tried your kid's saddle to your engine pro? I'm currently looking for a saddle for my daughter ,all i see are having 120 - 175mm wide, but the engine pro almost got 203mm wide for it's carrier. Thanks
Hi bro I just got the enguwie pro black red I get in speed 24to 25kmh how can I make it faster without risking messing it up I paid 1300 only last week for it in shop in Dublin tallagh Ireland but they put it together for me now weather has been shit but I used it 3 times only so far love it I'd like it to be bit pokyer daughter has scooter does 24kmh too but bike is 2vtimes as fast is there any gears I should keep it in for fastest all time
WARNING: !!!! Bought mine in 2020 so I didn't have to use public transport in London. I have ridden it almost every day, a round trip of about 5 miles, and I would fold it and keep it in my house when not in use.. Today, as I was about to head home, the frame snapped just behind the hinge. The bike is now in two pieces and nothing more than a pile of junk.
Which one? 🙄 there's 2 different bikes here.
Can you tell me the difference between the ep2 pro 750 and the 1000. Is their an advantage in the 1000. Cheers
Top speed, more range and rear shocks are the pros of the 1000.
hello my friend, great video. where did you buy the back seat for the bike at?
Amazon. There's a link but if you search it a few brands make the same one i think.
Good afternoon, do you know the length of these electro fatbikes, one and the other?I apologize for the mistakes, I'm writing to Google translator.66in?68in?
Do they sell the Engine Pro in the nederlands?, the look of it i like, i have the ado a20f at the moment.👍😎
Just order from EU website, its shipped from Poland.
@@janezhitori6203 But is it still 750w motor?
@@andarthome142 there's and engine pro (750w) and engine x (250w) so if you get the engine pro its 750w 👍
@@decaldealings9856 pro is actually acting as 1000w in sport mode 👌
They sell it at tweewielers almere. Echt een geweldige fiets, engine pro kopen niet de goedkopere
Would you use one of these on a train though?
When I looked into this bike. It doesn't come fitted with the throttle. It has been disconnected to comply with UK laws. The throttle is in the box but not connected. A bit strange them doing that knowing how our laws are. It's like turning a blind eye to it.
Which one? I didn't know they did that. Usually pretty easy to hook up though.
Where’d you buy the back seat for the ep 2 pro?
In the UK do these bikes need to be registered and insured if they go 45km/h? I'm in France and need to debate getting this bike and paying insurance on it or buying something that goes slower. These e-bike laws are a shame.
I think in the uk they technically need a moped licence and insurance. Not sure about registering. Agreed on the ebike laws.
@KingPeanut unlikely at that speed but it's always possible.
Thanks for review, do you know if you can lock the throttle on these bikes to the 25km/h for EU regulations.
I know Engine X throttle is locked to 25km/h, can be unlocked, I'm in Ireland, only seen Engine X on the roads.
I'd love to get an X26 or M20 but I'd need theory test, tax and insurance, bright jacket, number plate to use it on roads.
They come locked to 25kph. You can unlock it if you want though.
@@darn721 I ended up buying the engine pro, coolest bike ever, but I know a few people locally who would prefer the old school throttle.
Hi mate,, thanks for this vid , very informative ..Have you had the opportunity to test the latest full suspension Engwe 750 watt the 17a battery ,if so is it worth the extra ££’s.. also can you recommend a UK Dealer for the Engwe . Alan ( new sub)
Hey there. No I've not tried another Engwe since the Engine pro. I'm not aware of any uk engwe dealers, most people I've spoken to get it direct from Engwe. There's a few uk stores that stock them from a google search but I've not had experience with any of the stores unfortunately.
I love the company but apparently they aren't available in America, unless I made a mistake searching online.
How can I buy an ebike from a company that's overseas from where I live in New York.
I assumed they do ship to america. Companies have warehouses in different parts of the world to allow them to ship bikes there. Often UK get bikes from German warehouses. There is an affiliate link in the description that takes you to the US site 👍
@@e-VRC they ship yes absolutely
But I don't like buying an ebike from a company based overseas where you can't make a local phone call within the USA if you need customer service
@@stevenlawrence5733 oh sorry it was rhetorical! Sorry I get ya. Yeah that is a conundrum. I see it as it's much cheaper. So if something is broken they can send the parts and then we can either sort it ourself or pay a little for the local bike / scooter shop to do it. You pay extra to buy local and some will prefer that.
Hi, Should I buy it from website directly of from Amazon or EBay?
Totally up to you. I probably wouldn't go with ebay. Maybe amazon if the seller is trusted with lots of great reviews and delivery time suits you, otherwise use their official site.
Look, i cant decide what bike I need, a ADO20F or a ADO 20plus or another bike to just get up steep hills.
For the price you get more for your money with the ep2 pro. Ado a20f looks better though.
@@e-VRC I get sick of it in the end with went with the ado 20 plus rather than the Fat tire as it just screams look at me.. I want to insure it, people will steel these bikes given any chance chance.
@@CommonSenserules1981 i haven't tried it but the a20+ seems like a good bike. Plus thinner tires have less rolling resistance so better range 👍
А20+ cool bike. but not such a computer with help, just one help of a pedaling assistant. pro 2 gives more for the same money. but a 20+ is cool
what is your weight and what pressure are you pumping in the bike tires? For Ep2 pro.
Weight around 100kgs. I think fat tyres are usually inflated to about 25psi if memory serves.
Hey matey, tha ks for video. I have the Engwe Engine pro and the misses has ordered the Engwe pro 2. She rides our daughter to school who is 6 and. What seat you using on the pro 2 to take your son around as we will need to get a new seat. Cheers
Hey! There's a link in the description but it's often out of stock. However there are a few that look similar on amazon and despite differing review scores they're usually the same. Definitely a decent purchase and cool to be able to ride the little ones around, they love it 👍
@e-VRC yeah cheers. Found it. Bike turned up today......along with the snow! Doh! My first ride I'm going to take down by birmingham airport through Sheldon Park so should be able to really push it if not too many people around! 👍
Hi, thanks for your video!
I am about to buy the Engwe EP-2 and I would like to transport my 6 year old son in the rear rack with a system similar to yours.
Do you think the system is safe?
Does the rack hold 25 kg well?
Thanks in advance.
If you are wanting to take a kid on the back it might be worth looking at a rad power bikes radrunner or radrunner Plus. They are a little bit more expensive but are built for the task with motorcycle style foot pegs etc.
Unless you've got a wheel guard and foot pegs I really wouldn't carry your child on it. It would be so easy for your his/her foot to become entangled it the wheel. Serious injury no doubt.
I have had those racks fail from a 30 pack of beer. There's no way I'd put a kid on it.
4:50 you have this the wrong way round. Mechanical brakes, you have to pull harder to increase the braking force. Hydraulic brakes will give you much better braking force with less effort. Hydraulic are always better.
Yeah I accidentally said 'mechanical disc brakes however' when i grabbed the hydraulic brakes on the Engine pro.
@@e-VRC Yeah was just making sure you caught that.
@mcgetrekt2388 Thanks. Sometimes i hear myself and i think "WHAT!!!!! What you on about clown?" 😂😂
Just wanted to tell you the pro isn’t worth it as the ep 2 pro can be upgraded to the same hydraulic brakes. You can put on zoom hydraulic brakes for massive performance gains there. Then controller and dual battery upgrade
What do you want to tell us when you writte : The controller and battery upgrade
@@Rorolap especially that if you want higher top speed
Hi..the saddle seat for your son... where did you get it and is there a place for his feet? looking to get one for my daughter..get review and I bought the engine pro
Thanks for watching! It's from amazon. I put some links below. No place for his feet though he just lets them hang.
Hello, hope you are doing well! Thanks a lot for the review! I've searched through million reviews, and thanks a lot, seems you are among few people who using this bike with childseat! Could you pls advise, if you are pedalling, if it's still enough place for child legs? I really want to buy bike more powerful then 250w and wth throttle in EU (Netherlands) and use it with childseat and seems that's one of few affordable models, but still not sure if there would be enough space fpr kid. And second question, how do you think, would it be possible to use this bike with the childseat like Hamax (with loker)? Thanks a lot!
Where did u get the seat for ur kid would be handy 2 have for my son
Amazon there's a link in the description. If it's not available usually the same one is sold by different people.
im looking for a back seat, in 1:31s video i can see one, where i can buy this?? thanks!!
Amazon 👍
Is there an Engwe Bike for Females? The frame is Too high. Also if you want to exchange steering wheel do you sell parts and where?? Cheers
I don't sell parts. You can get things like bmx handlebars from ebay or amazon though. The p26 is nice and has a low bar. I've done a first look and first ride of that bike. It's very nice!
ep-2 pro and engine pro has the same loud charger or is it different? I have ep-2 pro and it's very loud
Yeah same one with a fan inside.
Porque a EP2 PRO tem pico de potência de 960w e a ENGINE PRO tem pico de 1000w... qual a diferença??? O motor das duas parece ser o mesmo ???
where do you get the seat and backrest that you feature in your video
Amazon. Link in description but there's loads if different brands that sell it if out of stock.
Out of curiosity,can the ep2 pro take the same battery as the engine pro?
Not this ep2 pro but I believe the new version uses the same shape as the engine pro so should work.
@@e-VRC thank you
All engwe-low quality bikes. I bought engine pro-black upgrated version, some bolts is too long, should cut them. Some small wrong shape bolts was changed. Some bolts was not tighted from factory-made that. Paint is not from povder done-it's cheapest painted from airpistol-easy to scratch. Skin is not straight sewed on bike saddle. Welding on aluminium frame is not so beautiful and accurated, as machine welding. The buttons and gear numbers without backlight, you can see nothing at night driving. Charging port is 0,5 ampers, you can't charge your phone. Rubber plug on charging port is not so soft, and can't close hole hermetically. No hermetisation gasket on folding place on the frame, water comes in slowly on rain. Handle to lift up bike is too short for small hand, and no balance, when you lift it up. There is much problems on engwe bikes. What about relable electronics, I don't know, but I saw negative comments on amazon about engine pro controller. There is weak frame place on back suspension fork-very thin(where back fender bolt is screwed in)-can broke after some years. Of cource same bike with ideal quality could not costs 1100€, it should be cost around 3000€
p.s. and ignition key place without any protection, water coming in while driving over puddle.
I just got rid of my unlocked Mate X 750w, 18 months of fun but expensive, im looking at the Engine Pro as its £1250 UK sourced and new, you reckon its about the same as my Mate X in terms of speed etc? TIA!!
Yeah it should be at least as fast as an unlocked mate x. They're meant to do 28 but I've had the engine doing over 30 and I'm heavy
Bro you said 20 mph that’s all can do ??
When?
Do you recommend the EP-2 PRO for driving on the campus and visiting some places in a small town? Or do you think worth expending more 350 dollars to get the Engine PRO version?
Also, I want to know if you had some problem with the customer support, I read some stuff about people having problem to talk to them and I got a little bit worried about it...
This is the best bike I found in the $1.050,00 price range and I would love to know your opinion about these stuff I talked, thanks!
For what you want the ep2 pro will be fine. Engine pro has lots of nice stuff but not needed for what you want. I'm not sure about customer support though since they sent the bike for review.
Where Can you by it
Through their website. There's links in the description
I think the dude just cost me an extra 300 bucks.
Hydraulic disc brakes are a con no stronger they just FEEL stronger!
It's because you don't have to pull the brakes as hard. They pull the same if you can pull the mechanical brakes hard. But i think hydraulic brakes get to their max braking force slightly faster.
Do you know where i can by new brake pads for my ado a20f ?
Have you tried contacting ado? Ask them which brake pads they'd reccomend. I haven't changed mine yet.
@@e-VRC I just did and waithing for them to contact me, i have my bike now for 9 months and the brakes are sreaming like hell.
Paintwork looks v fragile, and those handlebar stems!
Easyrider anyone?
Has anyone bought the spare battery. Is it worth the extra few hundred euro? Obviously, in theory, you can double the life span of your e bike, but is it gimmicky? A battery should last it's cycle's.
I think the only good reason to buy it is if you want to travel with it to double range. Most of the time you'd have one battery just sitting there discharging. You could swap the batteries every time but that would quickly become a chore.
@@e-VRC Right. Is the battery small enough to fit in a backpack?
@@HitchHikersBlues it would fit but it is a bit heavy. You can see the batteries on my battery swap video - I hold them so you can get a feel for the weight.
@@e-VRC How heavy are the engwe batteries roughly? Oh I see yeah. I'm just wondering is it worth spending the extra 150 for the spare battery. Decisions decisions.
Good
So you'll be experiencing famous Chinese quality: screws get rusty after 4 rains, misaligned brake callipers, noise from the motor starts to appear when you're going up to the hill in 2-3 months . And speed of the bike is different depends on the battery charge. And Chinese manufacture dose not provide real numbers for power ...Zero support. But cheap and not bad as a first e-bike. But no way to buy it again ))
Reply
What about the ADO XEs? I like my A20 but the only thing that annoyed me on my A20 was the stand could not be adjusted. If you tried to alter it it wouldn't tighten meaning I had to spend £15 in Halfords buying a new stand that is bright silver against black! I did msg Mark4shop and Mark sent a vid on how to adjust it. However, in a later phone call he admitted that he'd had the same problem as me and the stand was fkn shite! This reason is why I never gave them a review on Trustpilot despite their customer service being otherwise above excellent. If Mark4shop read this and refund me my £15, actually; let's say £20 for petrol and time wasted in faffing about then I will give them top marks. However, I don't think Mark or Alice watch your channel so... 😭
I haven't tried the Ado xe's just the a20f. Why not try asking Mark4shop directly?
@@e-VRC Because that could be seen as them bribing me haha. It doesn't really matter as I'll probably buy my next ebike from them as well when I choose to upgrade so at least they have a loyal customer... Despite the shitty stand issue.
@@e-VRC Is someone using your channel to scam or are you trying to get me to contact you for a prize?
@@5p3ckyf0ur3y3d833k scammers ignore 👍 i need to put out a post. I've been removing them but there's loads.
Comparison video without riding them🤦♂️
Haha I was thinking the same. But still a good review for me as I was not sure about the differences.
👍
My ep2 pro built different , with same power
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
You should be ashamed of of yourself for promoting this company. Do NOT deal with this company... you will not receive the bike within the 3 to 10 workings days. I ordered the bike end of April. I have just received an email stating it will be June before they can ship it to the EU, but not before I provide them with VAT and EORI NUMBERS? The bikes are not in a EU warehouse, they are shipped from China. I should have looked at reviews before I placed my order as it seems to be a common trait with this company. DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS COMPANY!
Sucks to be you 😹, my bike came in 3 weeks because of vacation and my brother his bike came in 7 days...
Shame, was looking forward to seeing that but this guy needs to slow down the panning around with camera…..made me feel sick,just slo down bro.!!
< < < IS THAT HOLE IN THE SEAT REALLY TO LET THE FARTS OUT WHILE YOUR PEDALING ? > > >
😂😂
< < < WHAT ARE PREDALS AND WHERE CAN I GET SOME FOR MY BIKE ? > > >
Did I say predals? 😂😂😅