My Mam bought this in 1974 to replace her Burco 21 twin tub, she loved it. Had it in Hotpoint maintenance plan, service every year - finally packed up in 1989. Takes me back to the sounds of my childhood and my much missed Mam. Thankyou
Love the stereo tuner look of the control panel. It's too bad the UK doesn't still produce these types of machines. As a yank this is by and large what we've always used over here.
Glad you like it :)The reason they were not produced here is that there was no market for them. Back in the 1960s when automatic machines started to appear in volume the market was roughly 50/50 between top loaders and front loaders. In the UK we have a tradition of (mostly) having our washers in the kitchen and, at the time, kitchens were mostly too small to give up 2ft x 2ft of counter top space for a top loader, a front loader did not have that problem
I think there were patent issues in the U.S.with Bendix and the reason why more manufacturers didn't make front load machines. All the big names here in the '50s, '60s and into the early '70s made combo units and I think Whirlpool/Kenmore or GE were the last to offer them. We've always had front loaders but they just weren't as popular and the testing agencies here knocked them. Westinghouse was really pretty much the only manufacturer left to make front loaders. They were popular in laundromats.
I understand that Bendix had the whole concept tied up with patents in the US which kept other manufactures making them. But I think also that US had a much greater tradition of top loading wringer washers than here so this style is is a natural evolution of that concept :)
There's quite a lot of history with this machine. Before Fisher & Paykel came up with their first washer in 1985, the ECS Gentle Annie, they had the Hotpoint washer licensed to be produced in NZ under both their name & the name Leonard. I wouldn't mind seeking one of these out for myself, as they're really cool machines. Great video by the way!
These were so good my landlord when I was 17 in a bedsit in 2001 there was a black and white 96 range I am sure at bright green writing on it was hotpoint about 6 buttons panel looked a lot like my dads old hotpoint front loader but a top loader! Was so good the performance on whites was sparkling on a 60 wash fast colours I and used to use 40 non fast colours they were the only 2 I would bar quick but would have to re spin as they were far to wet. Would happily pay for one of those now but can’t find any in south wales🏴 Only the ones without agitators I want one of them old ones lol Would take that over my lg even though I love it any day I didn’t I always said to people it was better than a front loader we all loved in and that building 60c wash done in a hour and spotless and no stupid “balancing system” My lg will not get whites white in under and hour , more like 3 hours… #memories :)
My mum purchased this machine 1973 it replaced a Bendix washerdryer , she said to folk that it washed very well and with a spin speed of up to 1050 RPM was unheard of from a automatic washingmachine from that era
One iconic machine to replace another :) Actually there was one machine that spun faster, the front loading Hotpoint 1600 from around the same time which spun at 1,100 RPM, they should have made a lot more of that feature
We had one of those, the 1830 version, with a basic out-of-balance system using trip switches on the suspension to interrupt the spin if unbalanced and redistribute the load, simple yet quite effective.@@Vacbear58
I imagine it costs an eyewatering amount per load to heat the water from cold, at least the twin tub reused the water for multiple loads. Stunning machine nonetheless
It would cost a lot to heat from cold, they use such a lot of water that even with a hot and cold fill it does take a while. I am lucky that I have six Hotpoint loaders so I can and do re-use the wash water, but even then its still a lot
My mum had this machine when she set it to VERY HOT which was near boil it took ages to heat and then it washed for around 12minutes then drained its water away ,I always thought what a waste it was .but for sure it washed very well and a high spin speed of 1050rpm in 1973 was a good plus in wet Scotland
These machines use so much water that, even with hot fill, it does take an age to heat to high temperatures. I am lucky that I have several of these machines so I re-use the water from one to another although it does require a bit of nifty action with the drain hose. They pump the water out at quite a rate too
I'm glad you mentioned the enormous hot wash water consumption, this was due to it not having a sealed inner drum (like a Colander) so the outer drum had to fill too, like a front loader. Compare this to the first GE top loading automatic which not only had a sealed inner drum but it could also save the hot sudsy water for the next load of washing. Not bad for 1947 ! The Parnall Spinwasher & Thor Automagic could also save the hot water for the next wash. The figures for the Hotpoint in the video are as follows (Hot water consumption) :- Small load (up to 4 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 8 UK gallons Medium load (4 - 7 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 12 UK gallons Large load (7 - 10 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 16 UK gallons I remember the boiler in my parents' kitchen coming on half way through the Hotpoint's hot fill as the airing cupboard storage tank emptied !!
My parents bought one of these (well actually the later 15690 with hot fill `E' button) to replace a Parnall Spinwasher. It was an enormous disappointment regardinging hot water wastage in particular, not having a sealed inner drum. Not only did the Parnall have a sealed inner drum which in itself saved an enormous amount of water (the outer tub didn't need to fill to fill the inner drum) but the hot sudsy water could be saved after being spun off for the next load of washing. N.B. The first GE top loading Automatic also had a sealed inner drum & suds saving feature, launched in 1947 !
The Parnall is a very interesting machine, I am lucky to have seen both semi auto versions in action. Was your mother's the one with the controls on the front or on a raised panel at the back? Or was it the automatic version? The only limitation I think it had was that the clothes could not be soaked as it heated the water but, on the other hand, you could save (and heat up again) water that had been used once for a second load. Its just a shame that it could not have the production volume to compete with Hoover, Hotpoint and Servis twin tubs as the semi auto version was much the same price
@@Vacbear58 Mum's had the controls on the front ..... Parnall Spinwasher EW60H. I wasn't aware of an automatic version. Have you or any of your fellow washer friends got one that may be shown on UA-cam some time? It would be great to see one working (or even not working) and the operation explained (like does it still have a sealed inner drum) and can it still save hot water for the next wash (apparently the GE toploading automatic could, from back in 1947 ! ).
@@Martindyna Martin, no sooner said than done. If you look at the UA-cam Channel "We Had One Of Those" you will find a video of this machine, and many others. The exact title of the video is "Parnall Spinwasher EW60H Washing Machine (1960)". The machine, and many others is still lovingly cared for in Lincoln. There is also the later version with the controls on the back which operates in much the same way. There was a fully automatic version (which retained the suds save mechanism) although this was much more complex and expensive. I have never seen one of those in real life.
If i wasnt on a water meyer i would have one of these qgain in instant. Probably had over a dozen machine's in my life but none have come close to this
Hi Alistair, do you know why Hotpoint changed from a 4 pole to a 2 pole motor to drive the later models.? Ibelieve both motors gave the same result except the tw0 pole motor gave more noise and vibration. My mother bought a 1509-05 in 1977 add ran it for over 20 years with the odd repair by me. By the way i hear a slight bearing whine on your machine. Have they ever been replaced? Great post. Clive in Sheffield.
Clive, personally I do not know why they changed the motor, perhaps others can explain why. The machine is currently with an enginner for a bit of much needed TLC although it is still filly operational. You are always welcome to pop down to see the collection, it is not far from you
yes they were a great machine and taking a 10lb load, as opposed to most front loaders that took a 9lb load, plus the 1050 spin, they wer superior....but the amount of water they used, and electricity, they would never do for todays climate!!
Sadly the amount of water they used and the electricity to heat the water are it's biggest drawback. I am lucky that, with several of these machines, I can re use the hot wash water which goes some way to offset this :)
The high cost for water usage nowadays and high demands put on local water supplies due to overdevelopment is the main reason why many consumers and politicians raise an eyebrow concerning this machine. Environmental concerns about water use are without merit. If all the water you see in this machine were to be somehow permenently rendered unusable, polluted and untreatable, we would have run out of drinking water decades ago.The hysteria about water use comes from political agenda and motives to overdevelop. More homes = more taxes. So this greed motivated propaganda is couched under the umbrella of environmental conservation. No, there is nothing wrong with the amount used whatsoever. Energy used to heat up the water sourced from dirty power is another matter of course.
I'm glad you mentioned the enormous hot wash water consumption this was as follows from memory:- Small load (up to 4 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 8 UK gallons Medium load (4 - 7 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 12 UK gallons Large load (7 - 10 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 16 UK gallons I remember the boiler in my parents' kitchen coming on half way through the Hotpoint's hot fill !!
My Mam bought this in 1974 to replace her Burco 21 twin tub, she loved it. Had it in Hotpoint maintenance plan, service every year - finally packed up in 1989. Takes me back to the sounds of my childhood and my much missed Mam. Thankyou
Glad you enjoyed it. You might find a video of a Burco 21 coming along in 2023 as I have one in the garage awaiting restoration
Hi. As a matter of interest do you remember in what way it packed up? Probably could have been fixed but was considered uneconomic to do so.
What a super video of a lovely machine . Many thanks
Thank you Darren, glad you enjoyed it
What a fabulous machine. Just gets on with the job. No messing about. Thanks for sharing
Thank you :)
Love the stereo tuner look of the control panel. It's too bad the UK doesn't still produce these types of machines. As a yank this is by and large what we've always used over here.
Glad you like it :)The reason they were not produced here is that there was no market for them. Back in the 1960s when automatic machines started to appear in volume the market was roughly 50/50 between top loaders and front loaders. In the UK we have a tradition of (mostly) having our washers in the kitchen and, at the time, kitchens were mostly too small to give up 2ft x 2ft of counter top space for a top loader, a front loader did not have that problem
I think there were patent issues in the U.S.with Bendix and the reason why more manufacturers didn't make front load machines.
All the big names here in the '50s, '60s and into the early '70s made combo units and I think Whirlpool/Kenmore or GE were the last to offer them.
We've always had front loaders but they just weren't as popular and the testing agencies here knocked them. Westinghouse was really pretty much the only manufacturer left to make front loaders. They were popular in laundromats.
I understand that Bendix had the whole concept tied up with patents in the US which kept other manufactures making them. But I think also that US had a much greater tradition of top loading wringer washers than here so this style is is a natural evolution of that concept :)
There's quite a lot of history with this machine. Before Fisher & Paykel came up with their first washer in 1985, the ECS Gentle Annie, they had the Hotpoint washer licensed to be produced in NZ under both their name & the name Leonard. I wouldn't mind seeking one of these out for myself, as they're really cool machines. Great video by the way!
Thank you. You triggered a vague memory regarding the manufacture in NZ. I did wonder if they could have been sold in Australia under the Gala name.
These were so good my landlord when I was 17 in a bedsit in 2001 there was a black and white 96 range I am sure at bright green writing on it was hotpoint about 6 buttons panel looked a lot like my dads old hotpoint front loader but a top loader!
Was so good the performance on whites was sparkling on a 60 wash fast colours I and used to use 40 non fast colours they were the only 2 I would bar quick but would have to re spin as they were far to wet.
Would happily pay for one of those now but can’t find any in south wales🏴
Only the ones without agitators I want one of them old ones lol
Would take that over my lg even though I love it any day I didn’t I always said to people it was better than a front loader we all loved in and that building 60c wash done in a hour and spotless and no stupid “balancing system”
My lg will not get whites white in under and hour , more like 3 hours…
#memories :)
My mum purchased this machine 1973 it replaced a Bendix washerdryer , she said to folk that it washed very well and with a spin speed of up to 1050 RPM was unheard of from a automatic washingmachine from that era
One iconic machine to replace another :) Actually there was one machine that spun faster, the front loading Hotpoint 1600 from around the same time which spun at 1,100 RPM, they should have made a lot more of that feature
Didn't know that ,thanks
We had one of those, the 1830 version, with a basic out-of-balance system using trip switches on the suspension to interrupt the spin if unbalanced and redistribute the load, simple yet quite effective.@@Vacbear58
Magnificent!
I imagine it costs an eyewatering amount per load to heat the water from cold, at least the twin tub reused the water for multiple loads. Stunning machine nonetheless
It would cost a lot to heat from cold, they use such a lot of water that even with a hot and cold fill it does take a while. I am lucky that I have six Hotpoint loaders so I can and do re-use the wash water, but even then its still a lot
My mum had this machine when she set it to VERY HOT which was near boil it took ages to heat and then it washed for around 12minutes then drained its water away ,I always thought what a waste it was .but for sure it washed very well and a high spin speed of 1050rpm in 1973 was a good plus in wet Scotland
These machines use so much water that, even with hot fill, it does take an age to heat to high temperatures. I am lucky that I have several of these machines so I re-use the water from one to another although it does require a bit of nifty action with the drain hose. They pump the water out at quite a rate too
I'm glad you mentioned the enormous hot wash water consumption, this was due to it not having a sealed inner drum (like a Colander) so the outer drum had to fill too, like a front loader. Compare this to the first GE top loading automatic which not only had a sealed inner drum but it could also save the hot sudsy water for the next load of washing.
Not bad for 1947 ! The Parnall Spinwasher & Thor Automagic could also save the hot water for the next wash.
The figures for the Hotpoint in the video are as follows (Hot water consumption) :-
Small load (up to 4 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 8 UK gallons
Medium load (4 - 7 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 12 UK gallons
Large load (7 - 10 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 16 UK gallons
I remember the boiler in my parents' kitchen coming on half way through the Hotpoint's hot fill as the airing cupboard storage tank emptied !!
My parents bought one of these (well actually the later 15690 with hot fill `E' button) to replace a Parnall Spinwasher. It was an enormous disappointment regardinging hot water wastage in particular, not having a sealed inner drum. Not only did the Parnall have a sealed inner drum which in itself saved an enormous amount of water (the outer tub didn't need to fill to fill the inner drum) but the hot sudsy water could be saved after being spun off for the next load of washing.
N.B. The first GE top loading Automatic also had a sealed inner drum & suds saving feature, launched in 1947 !
The Parnall is a very interesting machine, I am lucky to have seen both semi auto versions in action. Was your mother's the one with the controls on the front or on a raised panel at the back? Or was it the automatic version? The only limitation I think it had was that the clothes could not be soaked as it heated the water but, on the other hand, you could save (and heat up again) water that had been used once for a second load. Its just a shame that it could not have the production volume to compete with Hoover, Hotpoint and Servis twin tubs as the semi auto version was much the same price
@@Vacbear58 Mum's had the controls on the front ..... Parnall Spinwasher EW60H.
I wasn't aware of an automatic version. Have you or any of your fellow washer friends got one that may be shown on UA-cam some time?
It would be great to see one working (or even not working) and the operation explained (like does it still have a sealed inner drum) and can it still save hot water for the next wash (apparently the GE toploading automatic could, from back in 1947 ! ).
@@Martindyna Martin, no sooner said than done. If you look at the UA-cam Channel "We Had One Of Those" you will find a video of this machine, and many others. The exact title of the video is "Parnall Spinwasher EW60H Washing Machine (1960)". The machine, and many others is still lovingly cared for in Lincoln. There is also the later version with the controls on the back which operates in much the same way. There was a fully automatic version (which retained the suds save mechanism) although this was much more complex and expensive. I have never seen one of those in real life.
@@Vacbear58 Thanks Vacbear. Great channel name btw !
If i wasnt on a water meyer i would have one of these qgain in instant. Probably had over a dozen machine's in my life but none have come close to this
Hi Alistair, do you know why Hotpoint changed from a 4 pole to a 2 pole motor to drive the later models.? Ibelieve both motors gave the same result except the tw0 pole motor gave more noise and vibration. My mother bought a 1509-05 in 1977 add ran it for over 20 years with the odd repair by me. By the way i hear a slight bearing whine on your machine. Have they ever been replaced? Great post. Clive in Sheffield.
Clive, personally I do not know why they changed the motor, perhaps others can explain why. The machine is currently with an enginner for a bit of much needed TLC although it is still filly operational. You are always welcome to pop down to see the collection, it is not far from you
That is the only other vintage top loader that spins that fast, the GM unimatic machines from the 50 do 1100 rpm.
Hotpoint were quite forward thinking on spin speed, even the very earliest version from 1963 had a much faster spin than was normal at the time
@@Vacbear58 How fast did the 1963 version go? Does it surpass the Unimatics and early GE's at all? Must be quite a rare model...
@@CBF1 The first version had an 850 spin speed, in the second series it was increased to 1050 rpm where it stayed for the rest of the production run
yes they were a great machine and taking a 10lb load, as opposed to most front loaders that took a 9lb load, plus the 1050 spin, they wer superior....but the amount of water they used, and electricity, they would never do for todays climate!!
Sadly the amount of water they used and the electricity to heat the water are it's biggest drawback. I am lucky that, with several of these machines, I can re use the hot wash water which goes some way to offset this :)
@@Vacbear58 164 litres if my memory serves me right per wash!
The high cost for water usage nowadays and high demands put on local water supplies due to overdevelopment is the main reason why many consumers and politicians raise an eyebrow concerning this machine. Environmental concerns about water use are without merit. If all the water you see in this machine were to be somehow permenently rendered unusable, polluted and untreatable, we would have run out of drinking water decades ago.The hysteria about water use comes from political agenda and motives to overdevelop. More homes = more taxes. So this greed motivated propaganda is couched under the umbrella of environmental conservation. No, there is nothing wrong with the amount used whatsoever. Energy used to heat up the water sourced from dirty power is another matter of course.
I'm glad you mentioned the enormous hot wash water consumption this was as follows from memory:-
Small load (up to 4 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 8 UK gallons
Medium load (4 - 7 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 12 UK gallons
Large load (7 - 10 lbs dry weight of laundry) ..... 16 UK gallons
I remember the boiler in my parents' kitchen coming on half way through the Hotpoint's hot fill !!
I juts feel like 12 minutes isnt long enough for clean clothes
The 70s GE branded washer was up to 18 minutes for the wash agitation cycle.