Here's Who Is Behind A Camp That Starts Prepping 11-Year-Olds For IVY Leagues

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  • Crimson Education likes to start working with children starting at age 11 to get them prepped to be accepted to the top schools. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. Your Support is Crucial to the Show: go.tyt.com/joi...
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    "Seven children flew into New York in late July to meet with the college counselor they believed would get them into Harvard University or another top-flight U.S. college. Two traveled from Switzerland, two from Australia, one from the United Kingdom.
    The youngest was 11. "
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 599

  • @randyping6036
    @randyping6036 2 дні тому +22

    This is how the privileged classes gatekeep education and opportunity.

    • @darex0827
      @darex0827 День тому +3

      The privileged class are also legacy, so their kids have a much higher chance of being accepted. They also have resources and use them accordingly for their own children, something almost every parent would do. Success begets success.

    • @beanabovethefrank1499
      @beanabovethefrank1499 День тому +1

      Preach.

    • @beanabovethefrank1499
      @beanabovethefrank1499 День тому +1

      @@darex0827 Hear, hear.

  • @martinlutherking6550
    @martinlutherking6550 2 дні тому +23

    Asians been doing this to their kids for DECADES! Y’all just discovered this NOW? Lmao😂

    • @antclerfont8478
      @antclerfont8478 День тому +1

      Only in America

    • @beanabovethefrank1499
      @beanabovethefrank1499 День тому

      Yeah, it's great. Just ignore the leaping off buildings for not scoring an A+ on a test.

    • @eec4me
      @eec4me День тому

      And then there is suicide rate in Japan

  • @TheHunterofWarriors
    @TheHunterofWarriors 2 дні тому +11

    Cal Tech and MIT are merit based. Harvard, Yale and Princeton are a bunch of rich drunken kids who buy their degrees then when at Wall Street. The only benefit as a working kid is the money you make taking tests for rich kids, and writing papers for them. Then the other benefit is making contact with people who may hire you into a cush position where you'll continue doing the work for the rich kid in the corporate position who can't do the job. After ten years you'll be a multi-millionaire and retire or you'll get addicted to the lifestyle where you are above the law, can look at working people as insects who must be held down by rules and laws because they are savages, yeah, that's what most rich, really rich, people think of working people.

  • @michaelchase418
    @michaelchase418 2 дні тому +6

    When I was 11 I was tramping and romping through the woods, through the forests, running along river banks, exploring nature, fishing (catch and release 90% of the time) I went to college, degree, and everything else. Let the damn kids find the magic. Education isn't always academic.

  • @EskiltheWanderer
    @EskiltheWanderer 2 дні тому +7

    The obsession with 'only perfection and being THE BEST, or else give up and do something else with your life' disgusts and saddens me.

  • @KpopChick_ttv
    @KpopChick_ttv 2 дні тому +19

    Welcome to student life in South Korea.

    • @babyamyxo-o6c
      @babyamyxo-o6c 2 дні тому +5

      💯 I believe it's the same with China, Singapore, and India, right?

    • @gk_zone4274
      @gk_zone4274 2 дні тому

      Except only the upper class families can enter.

    • @babyamyxo-o6c
      @babyamyxo-o6c 2 дні тому

      ​ @gk_zone4274 I thought it didn't matter, no?

  • @prometheus200
    @prometheus200 День тому +6

    Do they know our kids don’t care about Ivy League schools in 2045

  • @juanitamoser5546
    @juanitamoser5546 2 дні тому +4

    Not just robbing them of their childhood, but only people making $75k a year and up. Unfair advantage for the rich.

  • @Nevsek
    @Nevsek День тому +6

    Culturally defined "success" vs leading a fulfilling, meaningful, happy, and content life are often not correlated.
    I am an educational psychologist and this is disturbing. Please don't do this to your child. If you're unsure why, I'm happy to discuss what this will do to them in the long run.

  • @Mouffon
    @Mouffon День тому +3

    Cenk and Ana don't understand how completely uneventful most children's childhoods are nowadays. There's a lot more video games, social media and mindless entertainment than memorable experiences socializing and exploring life.

  • @jacksprat418-ju5qo
    @jacksprat418-ju5qo День тому +6

    At 61, I am happy I was allowed to be a child.

    • @JMyoutube1
      @JMyoutube1 День тому

      You're lucky you were allowed to be born.

  • @mikechang2023
    @mikechang2023 День тому +4

    This is moving towards South Korea's system...which has the highest suicide rate for high school students in the world.

  • @Corrigan65_
    @Corrigan65_ 2 дні тому +4

    Chris Hedges describes a similar experience to Cenk's in the Real Networks debut of Reality Asserts Itself. Chris Hedges got selected at a young age to attend the elite schools. Like Cenk mentions, that wouldn't happen today. It's more than ever about money, not education.

  • @gojurra
    @gojurra 2 дні тому +7

    These expectations are actually standard in high discipline Korean households. I'm the village idiot for choosing a different path instead of the expected Ivy League route. Let your kids enjoy life - it's not such a bad thing to be black balled by overachievers.

  • @Hy-BridAbroad
    @Hy-BridAbroad 2 дні тому +6

    This is completely normal in places like Japan, Korea, China, and Taiwan.

    • @CSmoothh
      @CSmoothh 2 дні тому +6

      They also have a high suicide rate due to an overworked culture

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 2 дні тому +1

      @@CSmoothh Liberals tend to overlook that when praising the education of other nations.

    • @Hy-BridAbroad
      @Hy-BridAbroad 2 дні тому +2

      @@CSmoothh Absolutely. I didn't mean to come off as praising it as I'm well aware of the ridiculous pressure those students are under. There definitely has to be a happy medium between US Education and Eastern Asia's idea of Education.

    • @Daniel-bn2lm
      @Daniel-bn2lm 2 дні тому

      ​@@CSmoothh The US has a higher suicide rate than 3 of those, the exception being South Korea.

    • @mchannel1365
      @mchannel1365 День тому

      Add India
      like whole of Asia wakes up to wanna be slave of future

  • @traviselrod7803
    @traviselrod7803 День тому +9

    This is not difficult. You don’t teach your kid sports early so they can go pro. You don’t prepare your kid to go to Ivy League schools at 11.
    You teach your kid the value of hard work, learning, improving, doing your best, etc. Those are the things that stick beyond getting into a school.

    • @jonathanshaw7355
      @jonathanshaw7355 День тому +3

      Perfect.

    • @Varelinski
      @Varelinski День тому

      These are not mutual exclusive.

    • @traviselrod7803
      @traviselrod7803 День тому

      @@Varelinski I agree. But the focus should be the process, not the product.

    • @Varelinski
      @Varelinski День тому

      @@traviselrod7803 I'm giving you a hard time, but I do agree that education must stay grounded in reality. The pursuit of intellectual life isn’t just a stepping stone to college - especially since college has lost much of its value - but rather a means to transcend the limits of empirical thinking.
      That said, I believe introducing children to the Trivium and Quadrivium as early as possible is essential. It certainly won’t harm them, and in fact, it instills many of the virtues you mentioned, albeit indirectly.

  • @JuleRousee
    @JuleRousee День тому +3

    When you go to an Ivy League school, it is much easier to bullshit your way into a position of middle management.

  • @sparky12261
    @sparky12261 2 дні тому +3

    Interesting fact: Crimson Education started in New Zealand by a young New Zealand man. Also (I believe) with investment from a former NZ Prime Minister (Conservative) who was both liked and also completely loathed by the Left.
    He was a millionaire who made his money in US investment banking...

  • @chrisgriffin698
    @chrisgriffin698 2 дні тому +5

    YEAH! if you're rich enough to play for this BS, you are likely to get in to the rich school anyway.

  • @ccatarinajm7114
    @ccatarinajm7114 День тому +1

    For somebody from mainland Europe, this sounds utterly insane.
    My 12 year old (youngest) daughter said: "Mom, I want to do what you did in high school" and I said: "No, you don't." Instead we sat at the computer to look at the government site to look up what courses there were. We found something that seemed like the perfect mix between the two things I had done - perfect in the sense that it didn't have the part she's not too fond of. So just before Covid struck, we had the chance to visit a school that had that course. She went home to her father and said: "Dad, I found what I want to do!" He had no say in it whatsoever. She was completely sold. The one thing that did change was the actual school. Only 3 schools in the city had that course so we checked them all out and even though she hates the city, she chose that school and now she's in her final year of high school.
    Only one summer I spent 9 days straight working with her for 6, 7, 8 hours to catch up with French. Having been in touch with the teacher from about March, asking her how I could get her up to speed during the summer, school allowed her to pass to the next year even though she only have 14% on her June exam. For those who don't know: normally that means you do the year all over again. Stupid system if you ask me, but that's the way it works. Unless the school council decides otherwise and with me asking for help, they let her off with a vacation task.
    The teacher gave us several suggestions and the vacation task. We never got round to doing that. I took the booklet she suggested and worked with that, in such detail that the teacher didn't care that we never made the actual task. Next exam, in December, 62,5%.
    However, also during the summer vacation we went on this "city trip" (me and my 3 daughters) which was like a quest. At some point my youngest daughter's page flew off, into a stream. I said: go get it. She took off her pants and her shoes and got into the water, screaming that it was cold and muddy. I had to stop filming it because I was shaking with laughter. The other two helped her with a branch to keep her steady. People passing by frowned, chuckled, laughed or plain thought me weird. But if you ask any of my girls about that city trip, the paper in the stream is what they'll laughingly tell you all about. The youngest with even more detail about the "floor" of the stream and such. I never managed to get the dirt off that shirt but she told me to put it in her memory box because it was such a hilarious moment.
    Of course I'm proud with the progress she made - 14 to 62,5 is huge! Of course I bragged about it. And I often bragged about her other marks too. But that stream is just one of the many crazy stories I could tell. It helps to have autism, you know. If it's not illegal or harmful, go ahead, let them frown. We had a blast.
    I had to get her through French because they could only let her fail once and the fact that I was already trying to figure out how to get her up to speed convinced school to let it slide. Now, in her final year, all she has to do is show effort. Turns out she had the worst case of dyslexia and dis-orthography imaginable. Had her tested for that because it was clear as day, but as long as it was not officially diagnosed, it wasn't real. Luckily she's in graphic media, and other than in language classes it's not a problem at all.
    I'm telling this story as a contrast to this video. I cannot imagine my youngest daughter having to grow up in the US under such pressure. The other two either, nor me. As a teen I looked up to the US, but now I realize that I live in a much better country on just about all accounts. At least we have a life we can actually live.
    I got my bachelor's degree at the age of 29, a week before giving birth to my eldest daughter. I got my master's degree only 12 years later and it showed my girls that even Mom had to study hard. I remember my 8 year old saying that 11/20 wasn't much, and I thought: you just wait till you go to high school and you get a subject like that. We don't have a name for it but in the Netherlands they call it the "six-culture". As in 6/10 is enough to pass. There's another saying around here: if you want to live, you work in the Netherlands. If you want to earn money, you work in the USA. This video proves that saying to be true.

  • @user-tb9gq4mw2c
    @user-tb9gq4mw2c 2 дні тому +5

    Like the saying goes college is the pathway to a better life and having mountains of student loan debt on top of it

  • @katra777
    @katra777 2 дні тому +7

    Ana is 100% right about trade school.

    • @crazystewart34
      @crazystewart34 День тому

      @@katra777 too bad she would never practice what she preaches!

  • @Matthew-c6v
    @Matthew-c6v День тому +3

    They should cut the bullshit and start teaching kids vocational once they're old enough to walk. If they want to do something great, they should have to figure that out on their own.

  • @adalon378
    @adalon378 День тому +2

    The biggest problem is that kids are supposed to drop anything that they don't excel at. Can't people see the problem with this?! It doesn't matter if you like to do something, you have to stop if you're not good enough. That's a recipe for disaster!! You will succeed a lot more on doing something that you're passionate about, simply because you like to do it and will continue to do it, much less likely to burnout. Not to mention that people are creating robots... And it should not be about the goals of the parents anymore, it's not their lives... One thing is parenting by keeping kids in school and interest, but also observe and give opportunities, but NOT decide if they get to be kids.

    • @david50665
      @david50665 Годину тому

      usaully people are interested in things they excel at

    • @adalon378
      @adalon378 16 хвилин тому

      @@david50665 I loved drawing/painting as a kid, but I was not naturally talented (plus aphantasia, which means I didn't have the capacity to visualise what to create and do it in the spot). So I dropped it after the classes were over and focused on things that I could study for, to have good grades.
      I was never told that I could improve and find my voice in an activity, when I like it and keep doing it. And then I could have actually excelled at it.

  • @EponineReads
    @EponineReads 2 дні тому +3

    You make your own Harvard. You become great because it's hard. You don't lean on an Ivy Legue school. you just become falsely confident.

  • @reginava02
    @reginava02 День тому +2

    As a therapist, this type of pressure will keep me in business for years. These children struggle with anxiety, depression, identity, issues, and PTSD. I understand the need for competition; however, children need to be children.

    • @Mouffon
      @Mouffon День тому

      Do you have many clients that attended top 15 universities? Do you work with children? I'm curious as what I've seen in the opposite. My nephews and nieces (5 of them) all were pushed to excel academically and socially to prepare for university. They all attended top 10 schools. They are all happy and excelling in life while many of their friends are suffering in the ways you mentioned.
      One important contrast is that while their high school friends are often struggling to survive, my nephews and nieces are in lucrative and rewarding careers, traveling, owning homes and generally enjoying life.

    • @ycoyle2803
      @ycoyle2803 День тому

      Do some reading about teen suicide rates circa 1980 in Japan. There was so much pressure on that generation.

    • @reginava02
      @reginava02 День тому

      @@Mouffon individuals need to learn how to be resilient. This is learned through social skills, problem-solving skills, and conflict resolution skills when an individual solely focuses on achievement they do not learn necessary skills to function in society.

    • @Mouffon
      @Mouffon День тому

      @@reginava02 Ok. That is precisely what programs like this Crimson Education encourage.
      Do you have many clients that attended top 15 universities? Do you work with children? I'm curious as what I've seen in the opposite of what you initially stated.
      If you do work with children you must be aware that many kids these days are barely engaging socially at all as they are hooked to their screens. Right?

  • @redheadedcutie7691
    @redheadedcutie7691 День тому +3

    Most Fortune 500 CEOs did not come from elite schools.

  • @Iamfeartheviper
    @Iamfeartheviper День тому +2

    As an indian, this isn't really abnormal. We start much younger for training for specific colleges. We actually had extra 3 hours classes after school. Education is taken extremely seriously in most asian countries.

  • @donaldseekins6516
    @donaldseekins6516 2 дні тому +5

    Crimson Education in essence turns your children into robots. But it'll cost you.

    • @ls_1101
      @ls_1101 День тому

      @@donaldseekins6516 these Ivy League universities look at personality as a factor in admissions. They don't want robots.

    • @donaldseekins6516
      @donaldseekins6516 20 годин тому

      @@ls_1101 The "personality" one shows to admissions officers is a facade; it isn't real humanity.

    • @ls_1101
      @ls_1101 14 годин тому

      @@donaldseekins6516 they can see right through it.

    • @david50665
      @david50665 Годину тому

      @@donaldseekins6516 if the robot pass the Turing test it is ok

  • @stone1andonly
    @stone1andonly День тому +3

    I have the feeling that they're trying to train an entire generation of class suck-ups.

  • @tamdsms
    @tamdsms 2 дні тому +4

    This topic reminds me of the children's dilemma in "School of Rock" with Jack Black. For democracy & humanity's sake, VOTE BLUE💙

  • @jawant6039
    @jawant6039 День тому +3

    There's a rich sucker born every minute.

  • @sureshots98
    @sureshots98 2 дні тому +4

    Status obsession leads to serious issues if you don't make it or have those connections. Even if you do, you're just part of a problem somewhere.

  • @kf1439
    @kf1439 2 дні тому +3

    My mother had Ana's opinion and basically denied me a decent education because of it. I wish my parents had supported my education enough that i could have gone to a decent uni. State schools are just not the same thing. I likely would have been amenable to studying entirely abroad, since i think the issues with education here aren't necessarily the case elsewhere.

  • @Hepler-s2b
    @Hepler-s2b 2 дні тому +3

    🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 Can kids just be kids? Look I'm not negating the importance of education, that said if you push a kid to have good grades and that's the only thing that matters to you about that kid, you're going to push away your child. Because you're effectively robbing them of a childhood

    • @Amoth_oth_ras_shash
      @Amoth_oth_ras_shash 2 дні тому +1

      not to mention , 11 i am no american but college is enough ears away from 11 the kid might done a 180 in personality , interests , TRUE talents , etc by the time its nearing college

  • @andrewyarosh1809
    @andrewyarosh1809 2 дні тому +5

    I’m so confused. Isn’t this what fancy prep and boarding schools are for?

    • @Mouffon
      @Mouffon День тому

      Yes, but as admissions systems have been revised there is a market for programs like this.

  • @sulljoh1
    @sulljoh1 День тому +1

    Crimson: We start at 11 😣
    Korea: hold my beer

  • @thedarknessunderneathpodca6366
    @thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 2 дні тому +1

    I am irritated that rich kids have ridiculous advantages. Those kids will still have free time. At the same time, my ex-girlfriend went to Columbia University, and she was a high school dropout at 14. She also was at the top of her class.

  • @paulvamos7319
    @paulvamos7319 День тому +2

    If you had told me at 11 that I had to do something I didn't like, I would have said, "Great, more chores! 😡 😅

  • @charlotteinnocent8752
    @charlotteinnocent8752 День тому +1

    I've been a university student and known other students who went to different universities, and honestly, in many cases, the quality of education is not much different. It's the connections that make the difference, for those who are cynical enough to take advantage of those kinds of things.

  • @nicholaspowell7931
    @nicholaspowell7931 День тому +2

    if Im not mistaken that 34 % is still failing so you are paying all that money for a failing percentage rate what a scam that is

  • @TheJoergenDK
    @TheJoergenDK День тому +3

    The schools in Finland are the world's best. You want to check them out!

  • @bohall270
    @bohall270 День тому +4

    UA-cam & the internet have killed traits

  • @david50665
    @david50665 4 години тому +1

    free promotion for crimson education

  • @omaryusefbaker
    @omaryusefbaker День тому +3

    Age 11? It starts in kindergarten in Japan

  • @eec4me
    @eec4me День тому +4

    Successful future...what does that mean?
    Happiness...are you happy.....Being happy..That is a successful future.
    But now happiness boils down to the wall street version of happiness.
    By where you judge the success of a person by the size of their wallet.
    A rat race of being a politician or even a commentator in the pursuit of that one
    specific goal....Money.
    How tragic.

  • @fredrickroll06
    @fredrickroll06 День тому +1

    My parents were both 2nd generation immigrants and school teachers in Brooklyn. My grades were more important to them - and thus to me - than whether I actually LEARNED anything. I was graduated in 7th place in a high school class of 763 and wanted to go to Harvard, but applied to Yale because I figured Harvard wouldn't take me. I was accepted by Yale in graduate school and discovered that I would in fact have preferred Harvard. I basically flunked out of Yale and wound up back in Rochester (NY). I was NEVER interested in being a child, I despised children (and still do, for the most part), and started composing classical music when I was 11. Although I was rejected by the Eastman School of Music at 15, I have probably had more of my compositions performed and published than most living composers (see UA-cam) - which isn't much. Now I'm on the threshold of turning 80. Happiness? I never thought that it was meant for me. It came ONCE - unexpectedly - when i was 63, and I lost it after a year - ultimately, perhaps, because I had never wanted to learn to be a child.

  • @garywarrick6082
    @garywarrick6082 День тому +1

    I'm so glad I live in Australia. The pressure is here, but nothing like this. We're very lucky in that respect & we are doing great. God Bless America. You need all the help you can get😢

    • @Mouffon
      @Mouffon День тому

      This program was founded in New Zealand and exists in Australia as well.

  • @malagupta4289
    @malagupta4289 2 дні тому +4

    Producing Robots for the future ... human rather than machinery.

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 2 дні тому +1

      That's how the school systems work in the top countries.

    • @malagupta4289
      @malagupta4289 2 дні тому

      @orlock20 ALL countries, not only TOP ones! But all are learning that diversity and individuality 'builds' better human beings!

  • @431COfree5Storm4
    @431COfree5Storm4 2 дні тому +8

    Kids still need to be kids!!! There are always going be millionaires that didn't go to Ivy league schools. Others turn into trump...

  • @mathematicalmuscleman
    @mathematicalmuscleman 2 дні тому +2

    Education and earning qualifications is important as is having a balanced life such as playing with your dog and gym training. I earned my Bachelors and Masters Degrees in Mathematics and Statistics at The University of Sydney, Australia a very elite global university! However raising my German Shepherd boy Max, my furbaby is the greatest achievement of my life. Winning my Bodybuilding competitions don't even come close.

  • @Deescizzle
    @Deescizzle День тому +2

    We also want to set our kids up so they can sustain themselves when they are adults because us 'millionial' parents will not have the means our parents had to their kids out when they need extra cash. Most of us literally live paycheck to paycheck and when the kids are out, we can finally maybe save to pay down debt....but if the kid can't sustain themselves at 25 years old, wtf man. We will never get out of this hole. I'd willingly invest a bit extra in my kid to help them get into a good school...of course I can't afford these prices, but I invest in other ways.

    • @Mouffon
      @Mouffon День тому

      I recommend Kumon. Also, a lot of what this expensive program teaches can be found online.

  • @williamk4356
    @williamk4356 2 дні тому +2

    "As AI improves the trade workers will reign supreme" -Ana
    😂😂😂 So dumb

  • @Lori-db8vl
    @Lori-db8vl 22 години тому +2

    TYT, you guys are late to the game. In NYC, the rich start this journey with their children from infancy at the daycare and preschool level. The tuition for these facilities/schools is astronomical, on par with the cost of tuition at private colleges/universities.

  • @lordsoros627
    @lordsoros627 День тому +6

    Im voting for the McDonald's employee

    • @tacen28
      @tacen28 День тому +2

      Crazy nobody has corroborated Kamala’s claim that she worked at a McDonald’s

    • @ls_1101
      @ls_1101 День тому

      @@lordsoros627 didn't McDonald's exit Russia?

    • @lordsoros627
      @lordsoros627 День тому +1

      ​@tacen28 been denied by Mcd's apparently

    • @lordsoros627
      @lordsoros627 День тому

      ​@@ls_1101your a commie you have no ground from which to bxtch about foriegn collusion.
      Google the coat of arms of the Soviet Union.
      Recognise anything?
      The UN logo.
      It is not a coincidence.
      It is obvious who colludes with Russia.

    • @eulipion
      @eulipion День тому +1

      McDowell's

  • @SpaceyMonkey75
    @SpaceyMonkey75 День тому +1

    There are few things sicker or more depraved than parents who harangue and pressure their 3 year old toddlers to become athletes before they've even learned to properly tie their shoes. Let your kids be kids, societal pressures be damned.

  • @melosova-suav8930
    @melosova-suav8930 2 дні тому +4

    George W Bush went to Harvard and Yale.

    • @PureSparkles22
      @PureSparkles22 2 дні тому +1

      indeed

    • @rblxfan22
      @rblxfan22 День тому

      Yeah, because his daddy could pull some strings to get him in. Bush Jr. was a legacy student.

    • @melosova-suav8930
      @melosova-suav8930 День тому

      @@rblxfan22
      That’s my point!

  • @PlanetEarthling-no1
    @PlanetEarthling-no1 День тому +1

    It is not normal to live vicariously through your children. Well it might be in the USA but it is definitely not healthy behaviour.

  • @jesuspardinas3874
    @jesuspardinas3874 2 дні тому +1

    Cenk is right, its all about bragging rights. I go to a track to jog a little, and i see 5 year olds with parachutes running sprints, those parents have no shame.

  • @ShirōRockwell
    @ShirōRockwell День тому +1

    Crimson got this idea from Hong Kong parents, who start their kids years before 11.

    • @beanabovethefrank1499
      @beanabovethefrank1499 День тому +1

      Well, so far none of our kids are leaping off buildings for getting a B+ on a math test. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

  • @user-tb9gq4mw2c
    @user-tb9gq4mw2c 2 дні тому +3

    This is good my son will have to take out student loans and will have to pay it all back

  • @marcustrentacosta6569
    @marcustrentacosta6569 День тому +2

    I'll bet all my 💰 that Ana pushed this story.

    • @mambojazz1
      @mambojazz1 День тому

      Ana is terrible these days

    • @beanabovethefrank1499
      @beanabovethefrank1499 День тому +2

      First it's TDS. Now you're mad if it's not about the orange guy. Make up your mind.

  • @Mouffon
    @Mouffon День тому +2

    Ana doesn't understand this program at all. Students are encouraged to engage withe others more socially by leading or creating clubs and participating in non academic activities.

    • @adalon378
      @adalon378 День тому

      But the statement in the beginning of having to drop anything that the kid is not great at, is already putting in question the whole system. They may be engaging with each other and making clubs, but like robots, without any meaningful result...

    • @Mouffon
      @Mouffon День тому

      @@adalon378 How do you know they are like robots without any meaningful results? Do you know students that went through this program? I do.
      Also, I agree that dropping something that a kid isn't great at is questionable but it does cater to what top universities are looking for. They want students that really stand out among the crowd and not just academically.

  • @GeoffFilutze
    @GeoffFilutze День тому +2

    The censorship on YT is crazy. Apparently i cant mention the wars?

  • @Daniel-bn2lm
    @Daniel-bn2lm 2 дні тому +1

    In reality it should start much earlier. Even for the non science majors, music students who end up in conservatories or top music programs in colleges have been playing their instrument as soon as they can start writing their name.
    Cenk made that point about sports and it is true the stress the parents place to their children. Ive had friends who burnt out during college since they never wanted to do music but its the only thing they're good at and the only reason why they ended up in college in the first place.

  • @ashketchum9369
    @ashketchum9369 2 дні тому +3

    India has this already in the education sector, look into IIT coaching schools and institutions from the school level.

    • @ashketchum9369
      @ashketchum9369 2 дні тому +1

      Also for the NEET and AIIMS admission in medicine studies like bachelor's undergraduate degree

    • @babyamyxo-o6c
      @babyamyxo-o6c 2 дні тому +2

      South Korea too! I've heard IIT is one of the toughest exams. Do you think it affects Indian students in their personality development? Like, do you guys ever feel burned out?

    • @ashketchum9369
      @ashketchum9369 2 дні тому

      @@babyamyxo-o6c children from middle class families suffer the most from this insane competition. There are both good and bad sides to this thing. Since you're from South Korea, I think you may know about the movie "3 Idiots". Still that's the case here even today.

    • @AD70003
      @AD70003 День тому

      @@babyamyxo-o6c hell yes , most people who make it to IITs are just plain awkward who lack social skills , most are men as well .

  • @thecatsbackyard4833
    @thecatsbackyard4833 2 дні тому +1

    1:55 I sympathize with what Ana says here but it's better to grow up with less of a childhood than to have less of an adulthood. The next few decades are gonna be hell and I would personally be glad that my parents helped me extricate myself from some of that sheer pandemonium

  • @yomo4u
    @yomo4u День тому +1

    Interesting - every parent, including both of you, think you know the best ways. Bottom line - It’s tough being a parent.

    • @nalen5050
      @nalen5050 День тому

      Except Ana is not a parent... she is so judgemental "every parent who put their kid their... etc"...

  • @noigelskram2435
    @noigelskram2435 День тому +1

    Why would you pressure your child to succeed when you could pressure them to take puberty blockers instead?

  • @snapgab
    @snapgab День тому

    I despise every single parent who sends their kid to a place like this. If you can afford this then you already have plenty of money, you're perfectly capable of ensuring your kids have a good life without stealing their entire childhood from them.

  • @Eaglesfan4life352
    @Eaglesfan4life352 День тому +1

    ana is taking it too far by insinuating these kids don't have social skills because they do this stuff.

  • @Mouffon
    @Mouffon День тому

    If the top universities admitted students solely on academic achievement, their student bodies would not be diverse enough. Because of this, admissions are based on other factors exactly as mentioned in this video. This Crimson Education program makes a lot of sense.

  • @thorkelson
    @thorkelson День тому +2

    This is nothing, I have German friend who tell me you have to be careful the impression your 5 year old makes of their kindergarten teacher because the streaming of university vs. working class track of life begins then.

  • @starg47
    @starg47 День тому

    having a near perfect SAT, and having a 4.0 GPA is the minimum, they also want to see you do volunteer work, join clubs, master the violin, who cares if they reject you, it has been proven that the quality and motivation of the student is what's most important for success, no reason to cry about not getting in, if they don't want you screw em, you know your own worth.

  • @shahankhan7685
    @shahankhan7685 День тому +1

    Dropping acceptance of top collages one more reason to have one kid to concentrate all the resources.And they ask y people are having less kids.

  • @chrisventura1881
    @chrisventura1881 День тому +3

    They put too much pressure on these poor kids. Many Asians have high suicide rates too unfortunately because of this pressure.

  • @darriennemartin4083
    @darriennemartin4083 День тому +1

    You know I really wanted to rail on this..I still don’t like this really because I don’t think creating high stakes or high pressure for academics in kids is not helping them be more knowledgeable but just better students (that’s the real downside)..I can see the where there really are benefits. The cost I think is just wrong but they’re paying. Investing in public schools is the answer to me because our kids just deserve better but if you wanna pay it which I think is insane then so be it

  • @chuckalucktoo5492
    @chuckalucktoo5492 2 дні тому +4

    Stupid. Most college students are not going to Ivy League schools. I'd bet the most successful college graduates don't come from Ivy League schools.

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 2 дні тому

      It depends. Lawyers and business people probably do better when going to an Ivy League. If one wants to be a medical doctor, UCLA is better.

  • @youandme9569
    @youandme9569 День тому +2

    Who has time to collect all these degrees unless you’re already well off? What I’ve learned in my relative short period as working adult, which school you went to means shit. if you’re not able to adapt to the cutthroat world and the political bs that takes place at work, you might as well have gone to community college.

    • @anneanne9009
      @anneanne9009 День тому

      You don't have to well off to be a professional student. All you need are parents who can accomodate you for a free/cheap rate and exceptional intelligence that earns you scholarships and gets you a student allowance. Ivy league colleges are just BS, you can buy your way in. It really doesn't matter in the end where your education comes from. On the job experience can count for as much as a degree for certain jobs.

    • @nchevrea
      @nchevrea 44 хвилини тому

      At least community colleges are affordable. Real life skills are important.

  • @teddycheong
    @teddycheong 2 дні тому +3

    Abolish government student loans and this kind of BS will go away immediately.

    • @WALL·E-845
      @WALL·E-845 День тому

      What?

    • @teddycheong
      @teddycheong День тому

      @@WALL·E-845 Government has no right giving out student loans. It's anti capitalism and anti America.

  • @BoingMediaGroup
    @BoingMediaGroup 2 дні тому +2

    Education is a good thing.

  • @lexxired
    @lexxired День тому +1

    Then how do you guys feel about the trans movement? Teachers telling the 11-year-olds they were born in the wrong body behind their parents' backs?

    • @mr.e5595
      @mr.e5595 День тому +1

      You scumbags find any reason to just dip into some ol bigot shit, huh?

    • @Livingdead7
      @Livingdead7 День тому

      Nothing more than BS the right spreads so they can fear monger about a lifestyle they consider degenerate.

    • @Ex0dus111
      @Ex0dus111 День тому +1

      Nope. Other way around. Kids telling everyone that will listen that they're not they're assigned gender from the age of 4. That's what being born Trans is like.
      Teachers have an obligation to shelter the kids from the abuse of insanely conservative parents.

    • @MrRumcup
      @MrRumcup День тому

      ​@@Ex0dus111 Quite literally, no 4 year old has claimed that. Ever. They need to be sheltered from the groomers that are talking for them.

    • @Seanain_O_hEarchai
      @Seanain_O_hEarchai День тому

      @@Ex0dus111 there is not a child on Earth who, without influence, claimed to be trans at 4 years old.

  • @oneofthehumans7465
    @oneofthehumans7465 9 годин тому +1

    Once again, rich get richer

  • @mlggamer5296
    @mlggamer5296 11 годин тому

    I have no problem with higher education Me, my mother and my grandmother all agree, education is really important. I think it's a little early eleven years olds! WHAT IS CHILDHOOD?!

  • @nebbykoo
    @nebbykoo 2 дні тому +1

    I think this is what they mean when they say Elite Overproduction.

  • @inakale
    @inakale 2 дні тому +1

    so neurotypical of you both to think degrees are necessary for success only and all children want to socialize 🙄

  • @adamcalhoun6683
    @adamcalhoun6683 День тому +1

    I’m waiting to hear the “bad” part. On no people are teaching skills to kids!!!

  • @tiffanydias1893
    @tiffanydias1893 День тому +2

    That is the Korean way, though thry often start it as young as 4 or 5

  • @JohnSmith-il7jn
    @JohnSmith-il7jn День тому +3

    Those who criticize this are probably living under a bridge with a nonsense degree they could never get a job with.

    • @ls_1101
      @ls_1101 День тому +1

      @@JohnSmith-il7jn why do you talk bad about yourself like that?

    • @nchevrea
      @nchevrea 32 хвилини тому

      There is nothing wrong with community colleges if that is what people can afford.

  • @rebeccageiger9110
    @rebeccageiger9110 15 годин тому

    That sounds like a sad life. Never going to any parties or football games in college? That is half the reason for going to college! Learning to be an adult, socializing, etc. They don't call it the "college experience" for nothing!

  • @rockonmadonna
    @rockonmadonna День тому

    WTH? We need basic liberal arts for a year, trade school for a couple years, and a technical/mechanical internship in place of many traditional BAs and BSs. It’s BS to go into debt for jobs that don’t require a bachelor’s, which at least 54% of college grads (including I) did. Ivy Leagues need their tax exemption removed; any school with an endowment over a billion USD is no longer a struggling religious or educational institution.

  • @johnanderson8385
    @johnanderson8385 День тому +1

    so 2/3 spend this money and fail to get into "dream schools?"
    got it.

  • @michaell8722
    @michaell8722 День тому +1

    Mostly common sense advice, why pay that much when you can guide your child through experiences that will lead them to a successful life as an adult.
    BTW: my daughter goes to Cornell and got in on her own merits.

  • @marioposavec7897
    @marioposavec7897 День тому +2

    100000 dolars destroyd youth and only 30% chance to get in doesn't look good to me

  • @romulus463
    @romulus463 День тому

    I have a granddaughter who attends a private College Preparatory School, under scholarship; started 5th grade, now high school level.
    The school also has a rifle team.

  • @hvmvargas
    @hvmvargas 2 дні тому

    Instructions are not the same as education. Education is built on honesty, respect, dignity, trust, and moral values. Instruction is competition between everyone. Those students with better memory demonstrate during examinations are seen as smarter. Schooling is not a privilege for the few. It is a right that should be guaranteed and protected by the government. Most governments are complicit in creating incompetent schools with incompetent instruction and instructor. In other words, they create delinquent behaviors and then use the excuse that the individual has a choice. Is very simple; most children begin their Instructions in pre-school. Don't concentrate on the parents this or that.

  • @unorthodox5307
    @unorthodox5307 День тому +8

    As a black/democrat, I'm voting for trump because i want my country back. Not because i like him.

    • @mr.gamewatch7547
      @mr.gamewatch7547 День тому +1

      White liberals are about to show their true hatred for you

    • @ls_1101
      @ls_1101 День тому +5

      "black/democrat". That's a new.. It is obvious that you are neither. You already have a country. It's called Russia. 🇷🇺

    • @tjnucnuc
      @tjnucnuc День тому +1

      @@ls_1101exactly 😂what a ridiculous comment.

    • @tjnucnuc
      @tjnucnuc День тому +2

      Back from what exactly? And sure you’re black random anime pfp…

  • @mattsheezy5469
    @mattsheezy5469 День тому

    In the US, we look at education as an annoyance along the road to making Mo’ Money. In poor African countries, the children are actually grateful for the opportunity to learn, they wear their best clothes, & take pride in their achievements. Our culture is jaded, & sick in the US, that’s the bottom line.

  • @Lachid-zv2qk
    @Lachid-zv2qk День тому

    I started school at the age of 6 , enjoyed my childhood with my family and friends , no pre k , no special class !

    • @randallmadison9910
      @randallmadison9910 День тому +1

      The world is much more competitive. Kids who are serious and good at tennis go to academies in Florida. Why shouldn't kids who show great intellectual ability go to schools that increase their chances of matriculating at the highest level?

    • @Lachid-zv2qk
      @Lachid-zv2qk День тому

      @@randallmadison9910
      Agree !

  • @willylang3640
    @willylang3640 День тому +2

    I have met so many people that are way smarter than people I know who went to Stanford. Why? They went to Stanford and they are not smarter. It is the status and Cenk is right. If you want to learn something we live in a world with more education at our fingertips than ever. You can learn everything in an ivy league school at your local library. Ever heard of an encyclopedia?

    • @LyonHeart888
      @LyonHeart888 День тому

      Because you know a significant amount of the human population huh? 🔥🤔🔥

    • @willylang3640
      @willylang3640 19 годин тому

      My parents are professors you ignoramus

    • @nchevrea
      @nchevrea 29 хвилин тому

      One of the smartest men I knew was very wise high school educated and a jack of all trades. He could fix just about anything.