@@lucidnonsense942 Probably because the Pudel is a very forgettable tank. I've got one in my garage and I didn't even think about it until I saw the comment mentioning it :P
@@ThumperE23 Maybe WG didnt want it compared to the Pudel so it wouldn't cut into sales of that tank. If everyone knew it was the same tank wearing French colors, they'd choose whichever was cheapest or not buy the new French one if they already had a Pudel in their garage.
french panther survivability: 83 VK 30.02 M survivability: 75, despite having 5 mm more frontal hull armor than french panther. Go home WG, you're drunk (unless the french panther has a better turret somehow).
@@lucidnonsense942 sure waterloo, early years of ww1, ww2, and even the battle where the germans beat u after reuniting their country even kidnapping ur monarch. And of course there was the beggining of Vietnam. But sure who am I to remind u of these, I have surely not read any history books. Salty french ppl, get off the high horse, u are not a superpower anymore.
"I haven't seen any tier 4 tanks but at least I haven't seen any tier 8s either" says QB literally moments after commenting on attacking a Löwe..... Gj QB :P
Tier 7 Panther is a beast! I really enjoyed that tank, the gun is hyper accurate, but you have to shoot gold every one and a while to pen heavies. Great view range and pen tho
The German line was the first line I went down four years ago, and I liked the VK 30.02M so much that I kept it. Still have it, and the crew is great after four years of play. It’s a VERY solid tank at its tier, so if this premium tank is basically a clone, it’s probably pretty okay.
It's (almost) exactly the same as the 30.02(M). No reason to even compare it. And especially not to a tier V(!) that most players cannot get normally. Strange review.
And now play the tank with an average crew and not one with +5 skills, that would be a more realistic review seeing as most of us dont have that many crew skills.
I love taking my VK 30.02 M out for some matches. It is one of my best tanks, although that's not saying much because I am not that good xD. Besides, it is essentially a Panther Ausf. A (with Ausf D turret). I wish WG would change its name to Panther A and the tier 7 a Panther Ausf G.
Only problem is it would be a bit misleading to call what we have as the Panther a specific model, considering its top configuration is pretty much fictional.
WG is out of ideas... lets take a tank from country X, out it down 1 tier, and make it from country Y, so u cant use your crew properly. Happened with: Tiger I (131 and HT No.6), Tiger II (King Tiger), M10 Wolverine (M10 RBFM), Panther (Pudel, Bretagne Panther), M4A1 Rev., stuff like that
And what wrong about that? Captured tanks have been a thing for years and just because lately WG released more of them, you assume they are out of ideias? May I remind you that several trees have yet to be completed over the years. I could give as examples the Japanese TDs, Czech lights, Russian turreted TDs, American T95 medium branch, British high tier lights, French super heavies, and so on.
@@epiccamper No its just selling litterally the same tank for more money. Its only difference is that it performs better since those are 1 tier lower (exept the Rev)
@@deadtomatoe8949 Again, WG has been doing this for a long time. And for the good or bad, its not merely a reskinned tank like those in console (literally the same tank in all aspects), but a tank from different nations (thats the nature of "captured") and with minor differences, besides the tier. I cant see how worse from selling e new tier VIII Premium this could be.
I can’t believe it QB, you are the second guy who review this tank and like the other guy Dez you also didn’t compare this tank to the Pudel which is identical!
@@Ogamitto1 Yep, marginally worse hull armor and power/weight ratio based on the listed stats. The armor model for the Bretagne Panther on tanks.gg is bugged so all I know for it are the maximum thicknesses from the stat card. But I still don't get why they needed to nerf it compared to the Pudel, which is a pretty average Tier 6 premium. Certainly not OP.
I think it is not about wishing for a "panther like" gameplay. People are signing in this game so that they could play the actual panther or tiger or sherman or t34, pershing etc. People tell me i will enjoy E-75 way better when i complain about Tiger II but i only want to be able to play my Tiger II (a real celebrity of a tank) properly. What the hell is E75 anyway? These magical soviet blueprints, japanese superheavvy shoppingmalss or autoloading unexisting italian french tanks and finally those racing cars going 0 to 90 in 3 secons snapping people with these speeds just killing the feeling of this game because they are usually stronger than these actual tanks. I know this game is not meant to be a realistic game and it is a game with its own rules with spotting mechanics etc. But it is advertised as a TANK GAME and it definitely does not feel that way.
I like historical tanks, they aren't cometitive or OP but they have history behind that armour! I would like to see more tanks of diferent nations and more techtrees and I don't care if they have repeated tanks I want to see Hungary, Romania and Spain!!! moar tanks moar history!!!
I can think of an excpetion to your logic, if you allow me. The tier VI O-I is 99% historical (they even had to nerf the historicallly accurate rear armour for balance reasons) and its a very good tank in the hands of a competent player. It obliterates lower tiers and stands on its own against tier VIIs.
@@angelmatesmolan Oh I see, sorry them. I agree with you as well, I'd really like to see Turan, Tás, Carros de Combate, TACAM and other tanks that belong to minor nations, including the Swiss which can field a large tech tree, if ever implemented.
Don't forget two different Tiger I premiums at Tier 6. It's almost as if Wargaming knows what the correct tier for all of those tanks would be, yet still refuses to fix the German tech tree.
@@RedXlV Absolutely. The German tech tree is horrendously off and needs a lot of help. It's odd that the German LT and TD lines share almost all of the same components but there is no link connecting them in mid tiers like you have ALL OVER the Russian tech tree.
The best freely available Tier VI Premium Medium, is the T-34-85M. Everything else is either rare, or worst than it. This one, just makes no sense to anyone that isn't a massive tank collector and/or a history buff.
I certainly wouldn't mind a KV-II 754(r). And while they're at it a KV-IB 756(r) with the Soviet gun replaced by a German KwK 40. Better than more paper tanks anyway.
QB, I need your advice. The vk 30 02m was lovely. I had many good games with it and lots of fun. But I sold it to get the Panther at tier 7 and I am almost at the Panther II. Should I rebuy the vk 30 02 m, or buy the bret. Panther??
this perfectly shows how underpowered/unbalanced German tanks are, if they don't even affect the gameplay significantly one tier lower than before with minor penalties with regards to their statistics especially the armor..
Did the in-game comparisson, the Pudel has better frontal armor. So I'm not looking forward to it. Also, why didn't you compare it to the Pudel? ohwait, nobody would have bought the Bretagne if they saw the statistics.
@@aati63 the E-100 isn't a bad tank on the PC version, but it suffers a lot from Gold Ammo Spam, in case you want something that have a similar playstyle to it and punches just as hard check out the 60TP, one thing to notice though is that the Polish line is painful to grind
Hey QB, I think you are totally missing the point of this tank. People would not want this tank because of how it plays, but because they would have seen it in real life, like at TankFest. I have seen the tank driving at MiliTracks in the Netherlands and that was awesome. Now I am probably going to buy it because when I play it, it gives me the feeling of that real life experience.
And then there's me, and all my SEA friends, going, 'Remember us QB?' and QB replying, 'go away, I hated your server, so there will be nothing for you scrublords.'
Yeah, this tank is relatively mediocre, but this is how prems used to be and should ALWAYS be designed. I'm going to be stoned for this, but thumbs up to WG!
Ok, here’s something the MM doesn’t take into account... PLAYER SKILL!! Check the first game, QB’d team has 3 green players and a super Unicum whilst the enemy team has only red players with the odd orange and yellow! _Fix. This. WG_
I find all the tanks I buy or get a new addition. It's nice that your collection of tanks is getting bigger! You have to see it like this. This tank is just a rare tank that adds you to your garage. Your account will only be worth more. That's the beauty of those tanks, no? Not so negative QB! Not all tanks can be good otherwise the game is even monotonous. This is my meaning...
I think they should stop copy german tanks and lower the Tier of them. Bretagne Panther, Pudel, King Tiger (C), HT No. 6. What next? An E 100 on Tier 9? Maybe from Russia?
Why not compare it with the other tier 6 captured panther, the pudel?
Probably because it make his overlords at the wargaming offices look bad lol
It's basically the Pudel with 2 shots less ammo, slightly more weight, 10mm less side armor, and 5mm less frontal hull armor.
So far, all the reviewers have forgotten to mention the Pudel... weird, eh.
@@lucidnonsense942 really? o well..
@@lucidnonsense942 Probably because the Pudel is a very forgettable tank. I've got one in my garage and I didn't even think about it until I saw the comment mentioning it :P
You forgot to add the Pudel. How could u QB.
Beat me to the same comment, it's a re-skinned Pudel.
@@ThumperE23 Maybe WG didnt want it compared to the Pudel so it wouldn't cut into sales of that tank. If everyone knew it was the same tank wearing French colors, they'd choose whichever was cheapest or not buy the new French one if they already had a Pudel in their garage.
@@gamewizard1760 solid point
because he is paid by WG too
Paladin tonfoil hat wearer...no hes not.
french panther survivability: 83
VK 30.02 M survivability: 75, despite having 5 mm more frontal hull armor than french panther.
Go home WG, you're drunk (unless the french panther has a better turret somehow).
it has a french crew, they just run away more often to fight another ahh who am I kidding. They just run away to survive.
they just run away without reason
The French army won the most wars and battles of any country in Europe... seems like you haven't been paying attention in history class.
@@lucidnonsense942 napolean era? Sure. WW1 and WW2 era? Which history book are u using?
@@lucidnonsense942 sure waterloo, early years of ww1, ww2, and even the battle where the germans beat u after reuniting their country even kidnapping ur monarch. And of course there was the beggining of Vietnam. But sure who am I to remind u of these, I have surely not read any history books. Salty french ppl, get off the high horse, u are not a superpower anymore.
"I haven't seen any tier 4 tanks but at least I haven't seen any tier 8s either" says QB literally moments after commenting on attacking a Löwe..... Gj QB :P
He is becoming Jingles.
And also at the end calling it just like a VK 30.02 D instead of the M variation.
Pudel: AM I A JOKE TO YOU !? 🐩
You're FIRED
Get out now!
Whoever talks shit about my Pudel is going to get an uprising in their anus
Yes
Better Matchmaker = "It's boring". Yeah...right.
Unicums see things differently from regular players.
Its never good, is it? xd
Yeah give all Nations German Tanks but a Tier lower , gg WG
I mean the tier VII panther is still much better than this captured one. Don't really think they're comparable
Tier 7 Panther is a beast! I really enjoyed that tank, the gun is hyper accurate, but you have to shoot gold every one and a while to pen heavies. Great view range and pen tho
Also Germany has two premium Tigers that are tier 6
@@nossiro90 I'm pretty sure Germany has only one tier 6 premium Tiger, Japan has the other one, for... reasons.
Wow your so cool insulting a company.
Fucking normie.
1:49 but as your alpha damage is 150
*points to penetration value*
It packs a healthy dpm of 2000
Healthy can be used as a description for something good and in good wear.
The German line was the first line I went down four years ago, and I liked the VK 30.02M so much that I kept it. Still have it, and the crew is great after four years of play. It’s a VERY solid tank at its tier, so if this premium tank is basically a clone, it’s probably pretty okay.
It's (almost) exactly the same as the 30.02(M). No reason to even compare it. And especially not to a tier V(!) that most players cannot get normally. Strange review.
I think the review is worth it just to say it is a worse vk30.02(M) but yea why the tier 5 tank was included rather than a Pudel or normal Panther?
And now play the tank with an average crew and not one with +5 skills, that would be a more realistic review seeing as most of us dont have that many crew skills.
That's why I like QB's videos on his F2P account.
@Big O get real idiot
100% correct
2nd on damage....the tiger on your team was top
Last time I was this early QB still had an intro.
Everyone forgets the Pudel when talking about this vehicle... LOL. It was Skill or Dez who also did a vid on this and didn't mention the Pudel at all.
Odd that... That's 3 reviews that forgot about the 🐩 now.
Play The Tiger 2 The German Tier 8 Light Tank
Wot
Tier 7*
I love taking my VK 30.02 M out for some matches. It is one of my best tanks, although that's not saying much because I am not that good xD.
Besides, it is essentially a Panther Ausf. A (with Ausf D turret). I wish WG would change its name to Panther A and the tier 7 a Panther Ausf G.
Only problem is it would be a bit misleading to call what we have as the Panther a specific model, considering its top configuration is pretty much fictional.
"dont ram this tank"
i saw an elc amx ram this thing earlier today
Melvin Wallin rip
F for the Amx
Its 2 in the morning QB! But I'll still watch lmao
hey WG pls tell us why the Survivability is 83 on the Bretagne when it has less armour
thx
Thank you for your reviews @QuickyBaby ! !
WG is out of ideas... lets take a tank from country X, out it down 1 tier, and make it from country Y, so u cant use your crew properly. Happened with: Tiger I (131 and HT No.6), Tiger II (King Tiger), M10 Wolverine (M10 RBFM), Panther (Pudel, Bretagne Panther), M4A1 Rev., stuff like that
well, the Revalorise is technically a different tank with its 105mm.
And what wrong about that? Captured tanks have been a thing for years and just because lately WG released more of them, you assume they are out of ideias? May I remind you that several trees have yet to be completed over the years. I could give as examples the Japanese TDs, Czech lights, Russian turreted TDs, American T95 medium branch, British high tier lights, French super heavies, and so on.
@@epiccamper No its just selling litterally the same tank for more money. Its only difference is that it performs better since those are 1 tier lower (exept the Rev)
@@deadtomatoe8949 Again, WG has been doing this for a long time. And for the good or bad, its not merely a reskinned tank like those in console (literally the same tank in all aspects), but a tank from different nations (thats the nature of "captured") and with minor differences, besides the tier. I cant see how worse from selling e new tier VIII Premium this could be.
Why didn't you compare it to the Poodle 🐩??
Lol
le caniche...
Why Bret. Panther have more survivability than Vk 30.02 M? The VK have 85 mm hull armor instead of 80 like Bret. P
What's the point of comparing this Panther to PZ.V/IV instead of VII tier Panther or just Pudel?
I think qb was getting at the fact that the V/IV has the Panther hull, but no, it doesn't make much sense to compare it instead of an actual Panther.
The hull doesn't affect the gameplay that much in comparison to the gun so yeah.
1:04 80mm of armor: 83 Survivability. 85mm of armor: 75 Survivability?
Extra spaced shielding on chassis sides on Bretagne, nothing on VK 30.02 M, that would explain this gap?
QB, why are u not comparing this tank with pudel ?? :(
Because everyone forgot about the Pudel existing :'(
It may not be that good, but it sure does look nice.
Great video....I was just wandering, how do you set your zoom to x16 and x25 because my max aim zoom is x8 !?
In your settings you should see enable/disable x16 and x25 zoom in sniper mode I think on the first page
Matthew Blore thank you so much 👌🏼
Why not comparing to the Pudel? Oh i know, the Bretagne Panther would be obviously bad, QB cant do that ;)
I'm early.
Last time I was this early, there was a Waffle E100 in the game.
QB when you are at tank fest could you make a vlog of it
Why the hell wouldn't you compare it to the Pudel?
Maybe he forgot that the Pudel exists?
I can’t believe it QB, you are the second guy who review this tank and like the other guy Dez you also didn’t compare this tank to the Pudel which is identical!
Actually a slightly worse version of the Pudel.
Wow really? Maybe no need to buy this tank.
@@Ogamitto1 Yep, marginally worse hull armor and power/weight ratio based on the listed stats. The armor model for the Bretagne Panther on tanks.gg is bugged so all I know for it are the maximum thicknesses from the stat card.
But I still don't get why they needed to nerf it compared to the Pudel, which is a pretty average Tier 6 premium. Certainly not OP.
RedXlV thanks I understand it😊👍
Nice! I've seen this tank recently in real life! Awesome to see it in WoT!
I'm definitely picking it up, I like the Pudel and this one will be super helpful for my French medium crews. Great review QB.
I think it is not about wishing for a "panther like" gameplay. People are signing in this game so that they could play the actual panther or tiger or sherman or t34, pershing etc. People tell me i will enjoy E-75 way better when i complain about Tiger II but i only want to be able to play my Tiger II (a real celebrity of a tank) properly. What the hell is E75 anyway? These magical soviet blueprints, japanese superheavvy shoppingmalss or autoloading unexisting italian french tanks and finally those racing cars going 0 to 90 in 3 secons snapping people with these speeds just killing the feeling of this game because they are usually stronger than these actual tanks. I know this game is not meant to be a realistic game and it is a game with its own rules with spotting mechanics etc. But it is advertised as a TANK GAME and it definitely does not feel that way.
So early that this video has no views according to UA-cam
Published 22 minutes ago and it's still no views.
@@Olympion53 still
@@larsharmsen9353 still
423 likes and still no views
According to my browser, the views are only 34...
Awesome stream on Tankfest QB
I'd rather have the M4A1 FL10, when is that autoloading Sherman going to be released?!
I like historical tanks, they aren't cometitive or OP but they have history behind that armour! I would like to see more tanks of diferent nations and more techtrees and I don't care if they have repeated tanks I want to see Hungary, Romania and Spain!!! moar tanks moar history!!!
I can think of an excpetion to your logic, if you allow me. The tier VI O-I is 99% historical (they even had to nerf the historicallly accurate rear armour for balance reasons) and its a very good tank in the hands of a competent player. It obliterates lower tiers and stands on its own against tier VIIs.
@@epiccamper but japanese heavys are op anyways I'm talking about new historical tanks not op tanks that already exist
@@angelmatesmolan Oh I see, sorry them. I agree with you as well, I'd really like to see Turan, Tás, Carros de Combate, TACAM and other tanks that belong to minor nations, including the Swiss which can field a large tech tree, if ever implemented.
@@epiccamper dont say sorry m8, yeah I want to see what other nations can bring us to the game
A King Tiger at T7, a second Panther at T6..they just hate the German tech tree, don't they?
Don't forget two different Tiger I premiums at Tier 6. It's almost as if Wargaming knows what the correct tier for all of those tanks would be, yet still refuses to fix the German tech tree.
@@RedXlV Absolutely. The German tech tree is horrendously off and needs a lot of help.
It's odd that the German LT and TD lines share almost all of the same components but there is no link connecting them in mid tiers like you have ALL OVER the Russian tech tree.
The best freely available Tier VI Premium Medium, is the T-34-85M. Everything else is either rare, or worst than it.
This one, just makes no sense to anyone that isn't a massive tank collector and/or a history buff.
T-34-85M is free, unless you missed the marathon week due to a holiday
:(
Replay starts at 7:00
nice balanced tank in tier 6, this balancing is way way way more better than the tank such as 34-85M, type 64
good job Wargaming
Type 64 was an average light tank for a while. Only with the downtiering of light tanks did it become more powerful.
@@FawfulDied somehow WG forgot to balance old premium LT when they changed the MM, it is very disgusting
Man I'm a Panther Commander from 2010. And my main tank continue being the Panther. My tank, my house.
FYI based on the drivers fromt view port, it's a Panther Ausf.D, and... I miss the immortal PzIV Schmalturm in the comparison :(
It seems many other captured tanks are going to be introduced un the game.... American panther, German Sherman, Matilda, kv1, kv2 or t34...
I certainly wouldn't mind a KV-II 754(r). And while they're at it a KV-IB 756(r) with the Soviet gun replaced by a German KwK 40. Better than more paper tanks anyway.
Got this in Christmas boxes... I quite like it.. Does seem sluggish
QB, I need your advice. The vk 30 02m was lovely. I had many good games with it and lots of fun. But I sold it to get the Panther at tier 7 and I am almost at the Panther II. Should I rebuy the vk 30 02 m, or buy the bret. Panther??
Do you guys not have the wojtek and bear crew on pc? Basically the same as the pudel too.
You think Pudel crew will ever have Polen mediums to ride in?
Greets from the Tankfest! I've seen it live today!
Where is Pudel ???.... Oh this is Pudel with new colours :D
1st hit and ammo rack...nice
It's still a German tank. I'm surprised the Transmission didn't break.
@@burny6666 hahah
this perfectly shows how underpowered/unbalanced German tanks are, if they don't even affect the gameplay significantly one tier lower than before with minor penalties with regards to their statistics especially the armor..
The Panther is legendary. In WoT it’s “hahaha easy HP damage”
Why do you not put it up against the Pudel? It's the same thing, I would imagine.
Did the in-game comparisson, the Pudel has better frontal armor. So I'm not looking forward to it. Also, why didn't you compare it to the Pudel? ohwait, nobody would have bought the Bretagne if they saw the statistics.
Obj 268 - tank review. I want to see your opinion about that tier 10 td.
I LOVE the Alpenflage like Camo !
👍🏻🇨🇦👍🏻
Hello want an advice what is the best heavy in tier 10
Depends on your play style, I would recommend the T57 Heavy and the Kranvagn, they are pretty good tanks if you know how to play with autoloaders.
Btw, nice profile pic
@@FRGBlackBurn thanks so much iam a blitz player an e100 and grille 15 guy but now i want to play on pc so i think that iam going to the t57 heavy
@@aati63 the E-100 isn't a bad tank on the PC version, but it suffers a lot from Gold Ammo Spam, in case you want something that have a similar playstyle to it and punches just as hard check out the 60TP, one thing to notice though is that the Polish line is painful to grind
@@FRGBlackBurn thx soo much bro
Im too much into memes, I've read the title: "breathtaking panther"
For what it's worth, I just got this from one of my 3 purchased Christmas boxes. Not a bad deal for $5.99.
Hey QB, I think you are totally missing the point of this tank. People would not want this tank because of how it plays, but because they would have seen it in real life, like at TankFest. I have seen the tank driving at MiliTracks in the Netherlands and that was awesome. Now I am probably going to buy it because when I play it, it gives me the feeling of that real life experience.
so its a worse pudel got it coz the pudel has 10mm better side and 5mm better upper hull
Yeah i sat once in my SU - 100Y and got a smashing game literally,
Rammed a vk 30 01h and got a way better trade with my 60 tons
So... Basically its a weaker Pudel?
Really nice episode ! :D
min 8:42 after praising the template system : at least i didnt meet any t8 tanks - while being in a game vs t8 tanks ? confusing
Hi, could you please update your modpack to 1.5? The 1.4 one doesn't work anymore
And then there's me, and all my SEA friends, going, 'Remember us QB?' and QB replying, 'go away, I hated your server, so there will be nothing for you scrublords.'
Luv your vids for about 4 years now!
Still do, keep it up!
❤️
QB: complaining that wg should add skins to wot
Wg: basicly adds a skin
QB: *surprised pikachu face*
Roadrunner bro that’s a whole new tank
Love how survivability says its higher when the stats are slightly worse.
Yeah, this tank is relatively mediocre, but this is how prems used to be and should ALWAYS be designed. I'm going to be stoned for this, but thumbs up to WG!
I agree with you, i dont think prem tanks should be overpowered.
It looks very noice and i love the pudel so i think i will buy it.
Just did my first battle. 3000 dmg and 7 kills
Last time I was 3 hours late Pudel still exist.
Brand new? Did you really say that? What about the Pudel for comparison?
18 views, 435 likes, 94 comments... UA-cam is very drunk...
*I like it*
Ok, here’s something the MM doesn’t take into account... PLAYER SKILL!!
Check the first game, QB’d team has 3 green players and a super Unicum whilst the enemy team has only red players with the odd orange and yellow!
_Fix. This. WG_
*Not* *gonna* *happen*
Armoured warfare tried that, see how that worked out.
Never noticed before the Zeplin has Ruinberg written on it.
TOG rentals? Time to play crom b for those exp piniatas
It would have been nice to see how it compares to the puddle.
Wow dudes chill it with the Pudel
Does that count worst matchup when all enemy team is red?
Can you do a video on the T95 TD for the Xbox 360
I love the Pudel, wont be wasting money on this Panther
German tank, first incomming shell, ammorack. It's the meta
Leave my Panther and Tiger alone.
My stock version need Buff.
Why not compare it to the Pudel instead of the VK?
When is the new modpack comming?
There aren’t many tier 6 mediums that have reliable armor, tech tree or premium.
The tank is not aviable in wargaming store in 2024? I cant find it
It's a free tank via twitch drops this week
@@____________________________.x how i Can have a drop? I never use Twitch
@@____________________________.xYeah i buy it with token. This tank is so cool
Why do u miss to compare it to the pudel?
Wargaming: New tank!!
Me: Another tank for circon to 3 mark...
Skill4ltu: *am I a joke to you?*
Trümmertürkes Leiche nah lol
Marshal Petain liked this video
At 9:38 you are pretty quick whit repairing your ammo rack...
I find all the tanks I buy or get a new addition. It's nice that your collection of tanks is getting bigger! You have to see it like this. This tank is just a rare tank that adds you to your garage. Your account will only be worth more. That's the beauty of those tanks, no? Not so negative QB! Not all tanks can be good otherwise the game is even monotonous. This is my meaning...
WG : Such ORIGINAL idea , god i,m so good AT THIS
I think they should stop copy german tanks and lower the Tier of them. Bretagne Panther, Pudel, King Tiger (C), HT No. 6. What next? An E 100 on Tier 9? Maybe from Russia?
Captured Maus as a Russian reward tank.
The thing is they are lower tier because they dont have the top guns and in the case of the panther top turrent,they have what they had historically.