Thank you. I’m glad the video helped make your day. It’s a lot easier for me to add the film’s title and date when I put the clips together than waiting until it’s uploaded and add them using UA-cam’s closed captioning, so I’ll be doing that from now on.
Thanks! Since it’s an exploitation film from an independent studio and is in the public domain, the available print I found is merely so-so. Still, the film is more than eye-brow raising and worth checking out even in a mediocre print.
As someone who loves history, I love learning about early talking films and pre-code movies in old Hollywood. Pre-code movies seemed to have included saucy dialogue, more intense physical altercations than after code movies, and women actresses wearing very little clothing. I wonder why the male actors were never allowed to have on very little clothing pre-code. LOL!!!
Here's a pre-Code video I put together featuring male actors in little clothing. (Be warned, UA-cam has it age restricted.) ua-cam.com/video/krPwfWcQP5g/v-deo.html
the hays code didn't censor movies or outlaw nudity. it merely set a standard required for approval for general release. states, counties and local authorities set and enforced their own standards. movies without the hays stamp of approval had limited release depending on local laws. many low budget movies, not seeking hays code approval, were released and distributed that showed full nudity and "racy" language and themes. most famously the "marijuana" movies of the 30s. "marijuana; assassin of youth" had full nudity in it. and it was released in 1936. although, it was pretty quick, rather grainy and held at long shots. even today, some movies are released without a rating to avoid the censorship of the ratings board. movies that are "unrated" would usually receive an "x" which is death at the box office. while unrated movies don't bear that stigma of an "x" rating. porn movies are in fact "unrated." there is no "official" "xxx" rating. the "xxx" moniker was created by the porn industry to distinguish their movies from the ratings board "x" rating. "midnight cowboy" was the only "x" rated movie in history to win an oscar. but it can be shown on late night broadcast tv today. so there's a BIG difference between "x" and "xxx." there, that's my lesson for today.
@@cjmacq-vg8um, I imagine it was up to the cinemas whether they would show an unrated movie or not. If they did show an unrated movie they could attract the attention of the local community and church goers who could boycott the cinema if they disapproved of the movies shown. In the long run money talks.
@@MrRecrute ... actually, back before the 50s, most movie theaters were owned by the major studios. they would usually play movies only released by that studio. the govt eventually realized this was a violation of the anti-trust laws and forced the studios to sell off their theaters. there were few places to show a movie that wasn't passed by the hays commission. but they did exist. for the most part, local (county) censor boards would determine whether films met their local laws. much like alcohol laws. some counties were "dry." others were "blue" and still others had 18 year old age limits and others 21. some counties and countries would actually recut films to meet their standards. movies like "nosferatu," "metropolis" and "battleship potemkin" are perfect examples. when digitization began film historians conducted global searches for every version possible just to piece together the original release version. the same thing happened to films released before the hays code. to be rereleased the studios would reedit the movies to meet the current "hays" standards. in many cases the original versions were lost entirely. the current rating system was put in place to avoid all that nonsense. but no movie was forced to follow the hays code or accept the rating given it by the ratings board. some filmmakers chose not to be "certified" at all. but this would greatly limited its distribution.
Mae west is talking to wc fields, shes on the stairway and slaps her left hip " this is thanksgiving, " she slaps her right hip, " this is Christmas, why dont ya see me between the holidays ". Look it up.
Joan Blondell would be mad at me if she knew what I did to stop her from getting her new t.v. show on the air in 1962! I was in the audience at NBC Studios, NY, when they previewed her 'pilot' called "The Jacksons", about a newly retired couple( similar to "The Ropers")! I stood up among the 300 person audience & said that she was not a good choice because she played "floozies"! The audience agreed & voted to turn it down for the next season! I liked Blondell but the show didn't 'gel' with her!
Pretty tame by today's standards, but back then this kind of stuff was pretty scandalous. As Frank Sinatra once sang, "In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking, now heaven knows anything goes..."
You might want to visit Wikipedia's entry "Pre-Code Hollywood." From its opening paragraph: "Pre-Code Hollywood was the brief era in the American film industry between the widespread adoption of sound in pictures in 1929 and the enforcement of the Motion Picture Production Code censorship guidelines, popularly known as the "Hays Code", in mid-1934. Although the Code was adopted in 1930, oversight was poor, and it did not become rigorously enforced until July 1, 1934, with the establishment of the Production Code Administration (PCA). Before that date, movie content was restricted more by local laws, negotiations between the Studio Relations Committee (SRC) and the major studios, and popular opinion, than by strict adherence to the Hays Code, which was often ignored by Hollywood filmmakers."
It's referring to the industry regulations placed on cinema. Precode movies could have almost anything from being raunchier, depict drug use, illegal activity, have interracial relationships, and have strong woman lead characters. It was mostly a response to scandals and concerns of how it would influence people
@@johnbonaccorsi5378 Basically the Catholic Church trying to sermonize to America through an art form while their priests were raping nuns and school children in secret. They couldn’t even get their own house in order but were telling the rest of the world how to live “morally”.
the hays code didn't censor movies or outlaw nudity. it merely set a standard required for approval for general release. states, counties and local authorities set and enforced their own standards. movies without the hays stamp of approval had limited release depending on local laws. many low budget movies, not seeking hays code approval, were released and distributed that showed full nudity and "racy" language and themes. most famously the "marijuana" movies of the 30s. "marijuana; assassin of youth" had full nudity in it. and it was released in 1936. although, it was pretty quick, rather grainy and held at long shots. even today, some movies are released without a rating to avoid the censorship of the ratings board. movies that are "unrated" would usually receive an "x" which is death at the box office. while unrated movies don't bear that stigma of an "x" rating. porn movies are in fact "unrated." there is no "official" "xxx" rating. the "xxx" moniker was created by the porn industry to distinguish their movies from the ratings board "x" rating. "midnight cowboy" was the only "x" rated movie in history to win an oscar. but it can be shown on late night broadcast tv today. so there's a BIG difference between "x" and "xxx." there, that's my lesson for today.
The Production Code did, in fact, censor movies produced by the major Hollywood studios. After July 1934, when the Code was strictly enforced, in order for a film from the major studios to be released, it had to have the Production Code certificate of approval. This meant that those films were actually “pre-censored’, and had to meet the very specific guidelines laid out in the Code-including the ban on nudity. Those studio films that had been released before strict Code enforcement still had to meet that Code enforcement in order to be re-issued, with content edited out if there was a Code violation. (As happened to Frankenstein (1931) and King Kong (1933), etc. on their re-issues.) Independent films did not have to follow the Code, but did have to pass State and local censor boards. These films-often calling themselves ‘educational’ in an effort to bypass censor restrictions-would often not bother submitting their films for approval to the local censors, and kept one step ahead of the censor, packing up their films and quickly heading to the next independent theater. This helps to explain why the existing prints are often battered and worn. The MPAA finally abandoned the Code and in 1968 replaced it with the rating system, similar to what we have today. Unlike the other letter Codes (originally G, M and R), the “X” rating, which was intended as adults only (not admitted if under 17), was not trademarked. This allowed the porn industry to essentially usurp the rating, making the X rating synonymous with porn. (They could also add as many Xs as they wanted, hence XXX.) The MPAA still used X for ‘mainstream films’ (A Clockwork Orange, The Evil Dead, Henry: Portrait of a Killer, etc.), but finally replaced it with NC-17.
@@michiganjfrog ... sorry my friend, but so many people misunderstand this subject in u. s. history. the hays office censored NOTHING! they made suggestions for changes to meet their code. no one was forced to change anything in their movies. they did so to get hays office approval. actually, many movies were released in two versions. one to meet the code and another without the code. the rereleases, the same thing. the changes made to "frankenstein" and "king kong" were voluntary to meet the code. they weren't "forced" to change anything. they could've rereleased without hays office approval. i never said the "x" rating was never used. but it to could be avoided by simply rejecting being rated. no movie is forced to be rated. ratings are voluntary. its NOT required that any film be rated by the ratings board. everything else i wrote was true as well. many movies unapproved by the hays office were released. i can't speak for "a clockwork orange" but "evil dead" and "Henry: Portrait of a Killer" were in fact unrated upon release. their "x" ratings were rejected by the filmmakers and they chose to release these films WITHOUT a rating. which meant their box office was practically non-existent and they gained notoriety on vhs rentals. vhs tapes, again, require no rating to be issued. and possessing no rating probably increased their rentals. i like your channel. keep up the good work.
Well, my friend, you told me. As I don’t agree with most of what you wrote, I clearly fall into your category of those many people who misunderstand the subject. I’m okay with that.
Nothing makes my day like watching a pre-code compilation! And I love you adding the movie's name and date stamp to the screen!
Thank you. I’m glad the video helped make your day. It’s a lot easier for me to add the film’s title and date when I put the clips together than waiting until it’s uploaded and add them using UA-cam’s closed captioning, so I’ll be doing that from now on.
Your usual excellent work is appreciated.
Thank you very much!
I really enjoy these video's, they provide plenty of food for thought.
Thank you, I'm glad you like them.
@@michiganjfrog Your welcome. i have always loved the old black and white movies.
What's not to like! Thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it.
All this salacious material is giving me the vapors.
"I'll nurse him" "no, I'LL nurse him!"
I see where Monty Python got inspired for Castle Anthrax in the Holy Grail film!
Very decent clips with their times, too. So well done.
To think my grandparents might have seen some of these movies, though I'm sure my Nana wouldn't have approved lol!
I wish I knew about some of these when my grandmother would say, “They don’t make ‘em like they used to.”
Excellent dialogue acting and camerawork
Great Job as always Kevin.
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Wow, and this was my grandparent's generation. I guess somethings never do change.
Damn that despicable Hays Code! Think of all the hot women we were denied in movies from the 40s and 50s.
Yeah, no joke !!!
Awesome...Welcome back 👍
Im off to watch Road to Ruin 🤣
Thanks! Since it’s an exploitation film from an independent studio and is in the public domain, the available print I found is merely so-so. Still, the film is more than eye-brow raising and worth checking out even in a mediocre print.
Strip craps?
I need to look into this.
😀
Is that Marie Prevost on the left @ 0:56 ? Great video BTW!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video. Yes, that's Marie Prevost as one of the "three wise girls." She has the best lines in the film.
As someone who loves history, I love learning about early talking films and pre-code movies in old Hollywood. Pre-code movies seemed to have included saucy dialogue, more intense physical altercations than after code movies, and women actresses wearing very little clothing. I wonder why the male actors were never allowed to have on very little clothing pre-code. LOL!!!
Here's a pre-Code video I put together featuring male actors in little clothing. (Be warned, UA-cam has it age restricted.) ua-cam.com/video/krPwfWcQP5g/v-deo.html
@@michiganjfrog Lol!! Thank you for sharing this link! 😄
the hays code didn't censor movies or outlaw nudity. it merely set a standard required for approval for general release. states, counties and local authorities set and enforced their own standards. movies without the hays stamp of approval had limited release depending on local laws.
many low budget movies, not seeking hays code approval, were released and distributed that showed full nudity and "racy" language and themes. most famously the "marijuana" movies of the 30s. "marijuana; assassin of youth" had full nudity in it. and it was released in 1936. although, it was pretty quick, rather grainy and held at long shots.
even today, some movies are released without a rating to avoid the censorship of the ratings board. movies that are "unrated" would usually receive an "x" which is death at the box office. while unrated movies don't bear that stigma of an "x" rating.
porn movies are in fact "unrated." there is no "official" "xxx" rating. the "xxx" moniker was created by the porn industry to distinguish their movies from the ratings board "x" rating. "midnight cowboy" was the only "x" rated movie in history to win an oscar. but it can be shown on late night broadcast tv today. so there's a BIG difference between "x" and "xxx." there, that's my lesson for today.
@@cjmacq-vg8um, I imagine it was up to the cinemas whether they would show an unrated movie or not. If they did show an unrated movie they could attract the attention of the local community and church goers who could boycott the cinema if they disapproved of the movies shown. In the long run money talks.
@@MrRecrute ... actually, back before the 50s, most movie theaters were owned by the major studios. they would usually play movies only released by that studio. the govt eventually realized this was a violation of the anti-trust laws and forced the studios to sell off their theaters. there were few places to show a movie that wasn't passed by the hays commission. but they did exist.
for the most part, local (county) censor boards would determine whether films met their local laws. much like alcohol laws. some counties were "dry." others were "blue" and still others had 18 year old age limits and others 21. some counties and countries would actually recut films to meet their standards.
movies like "nosferatu," "metropolis" and "battleship potemkin" are perfect examples. when digitization began film historians conducted global searches for every version possible just to piece together the original release version. the same thing happened to films released before the hays code. to be rereleased the studios would reedit the movies to meet the current "hays" standards. in many cases the original versions were lost entirely.
the current rating system was put in place to avoid all that nonsense. but no movie was forced to follow the hays code or accept the rating given it by the ratings board. some filmmakers chose not to be "certified" at all. but this would greatly limited its distribution.
Great editing of these clips! Know of any pre-code films in which someone says "Don't call me madam"?
Almeda Fowler says, “And Don’t call me Madam!” in “Party Girl” (1930).
@@michiganjfrog Thanks!
1:50 Charlie Chase was the Benny Hill of the pre-code era.
FUN CLIPS FOR THIS 84 YEAR OLD MOVIE BUFF>>>>FILMS IN GOOD SHAPE AS WELL.
Mae west is talking to wc fields, shes on the stairway and slaps her left hip " this is thanksgiving, " she slaps her right hip, " this is Christmas, why dont ya see me between the holidays ". Look it up.
Joan Blondell was the best. She could act, sing, dance and had a great sense of humor.
Joan Blondell would be mad at me if she knew what I did to stop her from getting her new t.v. show
on the air in 1962! I was in the audience at NBC Studios, NY, when they previewed her 'pilot' called
"The Jacksons", about a newly retired couple( similar to "The Ropers")! I stood up among the 300
person audience & said that she was not a good choice because she played "floozies"! The audience
agreed & voted to turn it down for the next season! I liked Blondell but the show didn't 'gel' with her!
"This is a dancing girl show!": hubba hubba
The days when losing your pants had real meaning.
Love it
A hot chick is always a hot chick...😉
Pre-Code Hollywood, Not different now even with Codes.
The film code definitely set the film industry back. No realism in the dialogue.
The good Ole Days!
Note to self. Watch Road to Ruin.
Same here.
Pretty tame by today's standards, but back then this kind of stuff was pretty scandalous. As Frank Sinatra once sang, "In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking, now heaven knows anything goes..."
i didnt know they had bras like that back then
Do those movies still exist in their entirety?
Yes, they all still exist.
It's good to see that bad scripts & horrible acting aren't just recent events. They should just et the people hold the cue cards in these. JESUS!
Is that Pola Negri with Basil Rathbone?..
Yes, in “A Woman Commands” (1932).
Nice one, cheers Kev..@@michiganjfrog
Thanks, Sherlock Holmes and the Sheriff of Nottingham.
If that was scandalous by the standards of their own day, I would hate to think of their reactions to modern shows like Game of Thrones or WestWorld.
What does "pre-code" mean?
You might want to visit Wikipedia's entry "Pre-Code Hollywood." From its opening paragraph: "Pre-Code Hollywood was the brief era in the American film industry between the widespread adoption of sound in pictures in 1929 and the enforcement of the Motion Picture Production Code censorship guidelines, popularly known as the "Hays Code", in mid-1934. Although the Code was adopted in 1930, oversight was poor, and it did not become rigorously enforced until July 1, 1934, with the establishment of the Production Code Administration (PCA). Before that date, movie content was restricted more by local laws, negotiations between the Studio Relations Committee (SRC) and the major studios, and popular opinion, than by strict adherence to the Hays Code, which was often ignored by Hollywood filmmakers."
It's referring to the industry regulations placed on cinema. Precode movies could have almost anything from being raunchier, depict drug use, illegal activity, have interracial relationships, and have strong woman lead characters. It was mostly a response to scandals and concerns of how it would influence people
@@johnbonaccorsi5378 Thanks, John!
@@destubae3271 Many thanks!
@@johnbonaccorsi5378 Basically the Catholic Church trying to sermonize to America through an art form while their priests were raping nuns and school children in secret. They couldn’t even get their own house in order but were telling the rest of the world how to live “morally”.
So of that was pre- code, then we have no code today.
....and then they learned how to code.
I didn't know women had boobs in 1934! Boy.. shows what I know :)
French films at the time, were hotter!
The original strip poker.
the hays code didn't censor movies or outlaw nudity. it merely set a standard required for approval for general release. states, counties and local authorities set and enforced their own standards. movies without the hays stamp of approval had limited release depending on local laws.
many low budget movies, not seeking hays code approval, were released and distributed that showed full nudity and "racy" language and themes. most famously the "marijuana" movies of the 30s. "marijuana; assassin of youth" had full nudity in it. and it was released in 1936. although, it was pretty quick, rather grainy and held at long shots.
even today, some movies are released without a rating to avoid the censorship of the ratings board. movies that are "unrated" would usually receive an "x" which is death at the box office. while unrated movies don't bear that stigma of an "x" rating.
porn movies are in fact "unrated." there is no "official" "xxx" rating. the "xxx" moniker was created by the porn industry to distinguish their movies from the ratings board "x" rating. "midnight cowboy" was the only "x" rated movie in history to win an oscar. but it can be shown on late night broadcast tv today. so there's a BIG difference between "x" and "xxx." there, that's my lesson for today.
The Production Code did, in fact, censor movies produced by the major Hollywood studios. After July 1934, when the Code was strictly enforced, in order for a film from the major studios to be released, it had to have the Production Code certificate of approval. This meant that those films were actually “pre-censored’, and had to meet the very specific guidelines laid out in the Code-including the ban on nudity. Those studio films that had been released before strict Code enforcement still had to meet that Code enforcement in order to be re-issued, with content edited out if there was a Code violation. (As happened to Frankenstein (1931) and King Kong (1933), etc. on their re-issues.)
Independent films did not have to follow the Code, but did have to pass State and local censor boards. These films-often calling themselves ‘educational’ in an effort to bypass censor restrictions-would often not bother submitting their films for approval to the local censors, and kept one step ahead of the censor, packing up their films and quickly heading to the next independent theater. This helps to explain why the existing prints are often battered and worn.
The MPAA finally abandoned the Code and in 1968 replaced it with the rating system, similar to what we have today. Unlike the other letter Codes (originally G, M and R), the “X” rating, which was intended as adults only (not admitted if under 17), was not trademarked. This allowed the porn industry to essentially usurp the rating, making the X rating synonymous with porn. (They could also add as many Xs as they wanted, hence XXX.)
The MPAA still used X for ‘mainstream films’ (A Clockwork Orange, The Evil Dead, Henry: Portrait of a Killer, etc.), but finally replaced it with NC-17.
@@michiganjfrog ... sorry my friend, but so many people misunderstand this subject in u. s. history. the hays office censored NOTHING! they made suggestions for changes to meet their code. no one was forced to change anything in their movies. they did so to get hays office approval. actually, many movies were released in two versions. one to meet the code and another without the code.
the rereleases, the same thing. the changes made to "frankenstein" and "king kong" were voluntary to meet the code. they weren't "forced" to change anything. they could've rereleased without hays office approval.
i never said the "x" rating was never used. but it to could be avoided by simply rejecting being rated. no movie is forced to be rated. ratings are voluntary. its NOT required that any film be rated by the ratings board.
everything else i wrote was true as well. many movies unapproved by the hays office were released. i can't speak for "a clockwork orange" but "evil dead" and "Henry: Portrait of a Killer" were in fact unrated upon release. their "x" ratings were rejected by the filmmakers and they chose to release these films WITHOUT a rating. which meant their box office was practically non-existent and they gained notoriety on vhs rentals.
vhs tapes, again, require no rating to be issued. and possessing no rating probably increased their rentals. i like your channel. keep up the good work.
Well, my friend, you told me. As I don’t agree with most of what you wrote, I clearly fall into your category of those many people who misunderstand the subject. I’m okay with that.
Nothing real risque
How stupid, nothing that couldn't be on tv today.
1:20 she should have bet her bra!