Neither love them nor hate them. They are just not needed on a practical, modern and performant boat. Also, if you ever need a job some day, you'll find one in my boat construction yard.
Excellent comparison between the two sailboats, two young people perceive more restoration of sailboats than many professionals, I am convinced that the final work will be stunning! Will leave a lot of people envious ... That's good too! Eh eh eh! Enjoy life, because it is short. Cheers.
Very creative, I love the video transition from Kittiwake to Skua. Beautiful job on the teak and the secret is keeping on top of it like any bright woodwork on a boat. The teak decks are fantastic if you maintain them (caulking, plugs and cleaning) I was a watch leader on a square rigger for a few years and weekly we would clean the teak deck, always brushing in the direction of the grain using a week solution of oxalic acid and scourers.
Thanks a lot Roy. Wow how awesome! What a job 😍 Do you have any tips for the oxalic acid? We tried it on the bowsprit grate and managed to get the wood go almost white 🙈
Sailing Kittiwake the oxalic acid is good for getting rid of the stains, rust, food etc. we mixed a weak solution in a bucket with water. It was quite weak, I don’t remember exactly but we never wore gloves so it was quite mild. Then we would scrub the deck along the grain with fine bricks almost like a pumice stone, I think a scourer would work just as well. Once finished hosed it off with sea water and when it dried it came up a beautiful light colour.
What a stunning beauty she is, this Skua! Some loving strokes with an oily brush, a little bit of black goop here and there, and she looks better than on her launch day.
Great how you showed thé difference between a small and a Nice boat ☺ Thé new boat is looking very Nice old style ' with a lot of wood. Great video as usual . Thanks and lots of succes in you're Future projects and Sailing.
For being in the business of making videos on your channel for just a short time you are doing an excellent job. Congratulations. The way you opened this video, showing the size difference between Kittiwake and Skua was very effective. Having now watched several of your past videos I can clearly see Kittiwake is tossed around like a cork in the waves. Surely Skua will be a welcome change. You are one of the very few transitioning from a cat to a mono but it makes perfect sense. I love the wood but obviously it has to be a labor of love because keeping it up will be a constant job. The boat is beautiful and worthy of your attention. Can't wait for you to hit the high seas.
Thanks so much, John! When we announced the change many people thought Kittiwake was bigger than Skua - boats look bigger on video - so we decided to try to show the difference in size before the transition. We're so glad it shows! :) It's great to have new viewers like you, who take the time to give us feedback in the comments. We appreciate it a lot. All the best, Elena and Ryan
Wow, so many changes. I absolutely love everything about your new boat. The lines, the history, the comfort...it's like going from a Mini to a Rolls in so many ways. I can't wait to hear your reviews on her sailing ability and her comfort factor. She may not win any races, but you won't feel exhausted when you get there...so civilized. :) Additionally, your video work has been fantastic. I'm so looking forward to seeing your beauty at anchor. Thanks!
Thanks so much Clay, she does feel very luxurious in an understated sort of way, and oh so comfortable to live in. We'll hopefully be able to convey how she is to sail. All the best.
Putting in some more "sweat equity" really pays off in the long run. Look at how beautiful your decks look now! I LOVE Skua and you kids must be in heaven with all of the "new" room compared to Kittiwake. The intro was so perfect showing how different the boats are. Looking forward to seeing each step of Skua's refitting! You kids did great with this boat purchase.
Cheers Edward! You're so kind. We love Skua already. Although, as they say, you never forget your first love ;) We keep staring at what feels like a huge saloon and wonder if we own her for real. Hehe. You're such great support with your comments, thank you!
I had them on my 1981 Hans Christian. Had to redo them like you did. I loved them though. Great, soft, non skid. A couple buckets of salt water every morning and they stayed a beautiful silver. Love the Tayana 37, sails better than the HC.
Cheers John! Yes, they do look beautiful. Did you sail in the tropics at all? Did the decks get too hot to walk on barefoot? That's one of our worries.
I sailed from San Francisco to Maine via the Panama Canal. That was in the early 90’s. I don’t remember them being to hot to walk on and we had our 80 lb Labrador with us and he seemed fine with them too!
Ryan, nothing like headroom! Great to see you two making progress on the brightwork and teak decks and that the decks below the teak are in good shape! That's one handsome boat you have, cheers!
Skua looks much better, really enjoying seeing how you guys do various jobs, really looking forward to more “repairs on a shoestring budget” Can definitely see Ryan’s much more comfortable on Skua (never really realised how tall he is on Kittiwake!)
Really good job on the bright work and the teak deck. Too late for this time around but if you have the tool buying urge try and get hold of a Japanese pull saw to use for trimming teak plugs and then just finish off with the chisel ( this method preserves the chisel’s keenness for much longer.😀👍⛵️
Sailing Kittiwake Well - like all tools you can spend a lot of money - I bought a relatively cheap one that is very very good quality from Axminster Tools in the UK (they have a good reputation) anyhoo it’s this one www.axminster.co.uk/shokunin-japanese-flushcut-saw-125mm-105019 - I am over the moon with it.😀👍
Well it all looks fantastic already, I use that make of varnish and it does last well, once a year a bit of a scrape and re varnish but it's easy to keep it nice once you've got it this good. The same with the deck, keep up with it. The boat really is nice and full of character and so worth all the hard work.
I had a vicious life altering nightmare a few nights ago. And as it ha[penes, it was of this guy re caulking his week deck. I was never the same after that experience.
I absolutely love the WoodSkin product! So good to see it being applied on this kind of Vessel! So much lovely woodwork that will get heaps of attention. I do my woodwork twice a year. Only a clean and a light Shotch birght rub, and it is ready for the next layer. It is just SO rewarding to do! When you use varnish it is a bloody big job ever 3 year. Not nice to do so you will do it after 5 or 6 years with a lot of damage to the wood as a result. Skua is so happy with her new caretakers!! :-)
Yeeepppeee! We read good reviews online, so we decided to trust them. Glad you like the product and can vouch for it :) We hope we won't need to sand it back much, so we don't lose more teak :)
My favorite boats is old classic wooden boats. But a lot more maintenance then your boat. Don't ever get rid of the take deck it gives it a classic character.
Great work guys.The cleaned teak decks look fantastic.Love the comparison between Kittiwake and Suka.Ive gone the oppersite way over the years,from 53 ft cat to 32 ft tri and now 26 ft tri.Full headroom in all though.Enjoy your new home!
Wow I would have ripped that teak deck out as they always leak and give trouble on old boats, but you guys have done such a good job it makes it look very nice and classy 👍
We’ve never had a teak deck, so even though we know they can leak, we wanted to give it a chance before ripping off the thick high quality wood 😊 There’s no way back once we do it. Plenty of off seasons to rip it out if we fancy it 😉
Sailing Kittiwake I am all with you on that one, it feels and looks so nice. I am just jealous as I have not got any wood just plastic on my deck .....and it still leaks anyway 👍I am enjoying this series as it is nice watching other people work, just before I get up and go to my office😎 very motivating...
Wow what a difference the work makes! You two are going to have such a far greater experience on her than kittywake. Can’t wait to see her finished and in all her splendor
Your hard work I really think has paid off beautiful keep the teak seams to me doing what you’ve done would keep a better value it really set it off great work 👍👍
Brilliant job guys, hard dirty work doing teak trim and decks but worth it. Must try that wood skin myself as currently resorting to oil and that really doesn’t last long on the teak. Great music too, loved those tunes so off to find them. Andy UK
Awesome video, I just have one wish. You mentioned briefly that you consider the balsa core being in sufficient good condition, to not rip out the teak completely. It would have been an excellent addition to this episode if you have included that investigation. Fair winds and well done work. :-)
Looks great. For future reference, be careful to only scrub your teak decks with a soft brush and against the grain. If you scrub with the grain you will wear down the wood and leave the grain raised.
Thanks for the tip Andrew. We followed the instructions on the old bottle of starbrite we had and it worked a treat but for normal cleaning we'll be softer on them.
Yep I looked at it but most of our caulking was already so detached that it didn't seem worth the expense - the painters tool worked really well for us. The hardest bit was cleaning the inside of the seams which the multitool (ours is a Bosch version but the same as a Fein) did really well
@@SailingKittiwake complimenti al capitano per la bravura e manualità avete avuto in gran culo se mi passi l eufemismo perché pur rovinato dagli anni ha tenuto non infradiciandosi e il restauro lo ha portato quasi all' antica bellezza
Great job on the decks! We have teak decks on our 36' trawler, teak decks are great underfoot, but it is a bit of work to keep up with them. Someday we may decide to remove ours and not replace. I am avoiding that if possible. Great idea to tighten them up before Winter. Our decks hate cold weather the freeze and thaw is tough on them. Hope to have the boat down South next Winter. Ryan must love the headroom on your new boat. The Tayana is a Beauty! JP
For removing varnish (and a whole lot of other jobs) I cannot recommend highly enough the value of a Bahco #625 and #650 scraper and a selection of profiled blades for the #625. They are relatively inexpensive and will wipe both hours and effort from jobs such as varnish removal and will also permit a much higher standard of preparation to be achieved. I do not work for Bahco nor have any commercial interest. I have done more refinishing work than I care to think about and I can guarantee you that you will wonder how you ever got by without them. They are available on E Bay and you will get change out of $50 U.S. for the lot. I love your new yacht and really enjoy your channell. I wish you guys all the best for the future.
Thanks for the tip David, we use a lot of bahco tools as they’re usually well made and not too pricey. We used something similar for scraping the antifouling off of kittiwake before coppercoating her and it worked really well. I found that the heatgun did most of the work with the coating that was on Skua’s woodwork with the scraper just there to take away the soft material afterwards.
@@SailingKittiwake, Thanks for the reply, it's great that you're aware of the products and have used something similar before. As for removing antifouling, if I ever have to do that job again I'll use an enemy!. Sandblasting, sanding, scraping all work especially if you've got the help of friends but watching someone that you really don't like performing the task is much more satisfying.
Great job on the teak decks. The thick old Tiwanese teak decks don't have to be removed . The skinny rubbish put on these days caused most of the issues. Sailing la brisa with a similiar old bob perry boat on BOB's advise kept their teak decks and they are in the HOT Gulf of Mexico. With no leaks you could if you really wanted cover up with a layer of fiberglass and then put treadmark or similar on top but I don't think it will be so bad. One idea for 10 years from now is to use the method we used to put the grooves into a teak deck we put on a boat by gluing only the teak to a bs1088 marine ply skin over the fiberglass. We cut the 'fake' grooves with a 1/4" router bit guided off the groove next to it. Some other tricks but that's the basic idea. It would be a good way to remove the old sealant and leave a clean groove. But 10+ years from now I hope! Loved the intro! Cheers Warren
Hi, She is absolutely beautiful! With the layers of varnish, i would use much more layers. I used to work with oil varnish on my boats and 3 layers are good for interior use. I dont believe much synthetic varnishes. It is based on evaporating component, which make cracks inside varnish in the start. The result is that weathering is making biger and biger cracks and once water start penetrate to wood, it starts graying and peel off. I have never used international varnishes. I think its good choice, but the time will show. Although they say oil paint has good UV protection, after two years i can see that the wood is changing color under the sun. But the varnish stay in good condition. I used to work with minimum of 7 layers.
Looking good. I'm glad you didn't find any deck issues so far. Do you have a good handle on the make up of your spares kit that this boat will need?Curious on how you will handle stowing your tender?
Hi Ken, we'll work on the spares kit while we're sailing around the Med - I think only time will tell, but hopefully we can get it sorted before we leave Europe and easily available spares. Some things, like the windlass gypsy for example, are so old that they need to be repaired rather than replaced I think, and the genoa cars - I'm not sure they're even available any more, so we might need to improvise a bit or got some things made up as we go. Great question though! The tender will go upside down on the cabin top (possible as we're getting rid of the staysail boom) or on the davits if we're not going out to sea.
Thanks great work bet she looks like new once you two are finished 👍 intrested to see if you put anything on the teak decks? I only have teak in the cockpit seats and handrails but have used wessex teak cleaner and then sealed with semco got to admit happy with the results wouldn't go back to teak oil again.
Hi Al, nope we're planning to let the decks go silver but trying to keep them clean so that they're that nice light silver not the grubby grey like when we got the boat. Our slip neighbours are semco fans though - and it looked pretty user friendly when they were doing it
I don't envy you doing all those seams and bright work, but Skua's going to sparkle ✨ when you two are finished. :) Was that the biggest job you had to do? Being tall I also enjoyed the intro. 👍
You should get a Bob Perry boat, he was tall so most of his boats seem to have good headroom. Yep, probably the biggest overall job was either the woodwork or stripping the non-skid on the cabin top (more of that in a future episode!) although we just broke it down to manageable chunks, and after all the stripping, putting the woodskin on didn't really feel like work, it felt like a rest day!
Haha we were really prepared not to like having the teak deck and thought we'd just see how it goes, maybe rip it up eventually... but we love it! No muddy footprints everywhere like with painted decks, great non skid without being hard underfoot, and we love the look of it. For a boat like ours, it's got to have a teak deck, it's just got to :)
@@SailingKittiwake As an aesthetically challenged single man I will happily call the muddy footprints "modern art" and patiently await the next rainfall. ;-)
I tell you what; teak decks look lovely when they are down, but laying them was the worst job I did when working for a boatbuilder, who shall remain nameless. Caulking everywhere. I take my hat off to you for having the patience to dig it out and recaulk. I had an old skinny mortice chisel I kept purely for this job, and I guarded it with my life. Horrible job; chapeau to you for doing it. Removing the teak to leave the glass deck will be a nightmare and the deck will have to be filled, faired and re-gelled and grip-decked as the texture will have been ground off to lay the bond for the teak. I think that you'd be better sticking with the teak, at least until it is completely worn out, when you'll have to remove the old stuff anyway. I wish you luck, either way!
@@SailingKittiwake Teak is def kinder on the eyes than bright white decks when the sun is beating down. One thing; you might have to drill out a mill bigger when replacing the missing plugs as the holes are often damaged. But then epoxy will fix most things if you aren't too precious about how it looks. :-))
Next time, consider a linoleum knife as well as your 5 way painter's tool. Also, spend a few quid on a Japanese Dozuki saw. Cuts on the pull, flexible, only set on one side. You can saw those plugs off 95% flush in about 6 strokes. Much faster than carving them off.
Thanks, Chase. A liittle bit longer we think :D We had so many projects going on at the same time ("too much wind to sand, let's service the engine," "it's raining, let's build shelves",...) it's hard to give you a precise timeline :)
@@SailingKittiwake There is no such thing like a timeline in ownerbuilt project boats. That's why they usually come out way better than the average yardwork/pro work on elderly yachts when it comes to the fiddly timeconsuming things.
I noticed when you were doing the varnish work there were wood plugs missing. I see on the deck you are also missing bungs ? There is a company called Fuller , they make counter sinks for wood. You need a number #8 counter sink. You need to reset the screw holes with the new counter sink, then install new screws not the old screws. You then need to install new bungs with epoxy , do not use any other type of glue. After completing this cut down the plugs than sand the entire deck with a orbital sander and a series of grits of paper ending up using 180 as your last sand paper. After completed than oil the decks with a good teak oil.
@@SailingKittiwake I have to admit I only used sikaflex and it did a good job. I was just referring to your quote of "trying it out". So taking a risk with such a massive job is what I commented about. I did some googling and found no real answer but here is some testing done, not on wood/teak regretfully www.pbo.co.uk/gear/which-adhesive-sealant-is-best-20877 I really like your channel and you showed some real constructive attack on the boat to make it better, so only praise here 👍
You can actually get tube tips that are already flattened just for scenarios such as yours that you are doing. Saving money is one, and $4 per tube sounds great ... but there is a time to save and a time when you should use a good quality product to last. Keeping water out of your deck is one of those times mate. Now that product you used might be perfectly fine, but I would have researched it quite a bit before I simply just chose one that was cheaper in that instance. ESPECIALLY considering the amount effort of doing that as well. But then, at best that would only be a temp sol'n imho anyway as I would prolly plan on replacing the teak deck with something cooler and less maint. I LOVE the look of natural wood and teak which is not my preferred wood, is fine. But for a deck it is simply not worth it imho. Accent wood items would be great. Small bits and sections that I would be willing to do maint. on.
@@SailingKittiwake It's the method, the end result......I'm joking as I've learned to appreciate this type of beverage on many foreign ships. By the way, a good little ship you do have.
Hi, we didn't; we hoovered it :) To take some of the shots without the hoover in front of the camera, we first took the clip, then hoovered. That was the main reason for us investing into the hoover :)
What do you think of teak decks? Love them or hate them?
Check out Sailing Millennial Falcon. They removed theirs, they were tired of all the leaks.
Great channel :)
No leaks on our decks so far. We know we'll have to take them off eventually, but we're undecided on the when. They look gorgeous.
Neither love them nor hate them. They are just not needed on a practical, modern and performant boat.
Also, if you ever need a job some day, you'll find one in my boat construction yard.
Haha! Thank you. We may well need it one of these days. Where's your yard? :)
@@SailingKittiwake In a country where you'll first need a residency or work visa.
Congrats on the new boat..I Like the new deck...I smiled when you showed you both refinishing the deck..real fast motion teamwork...Loved it..
Excellent comparison between the two sailboats, two young people perceive more restoration of sailboats than many professionals, I am convinced that the final work will be stunning! Will leave a lot of people envious ... That's good too! Eh eh eh! Enjoy life, because it is short.
Cheers.
Thanks a lot André! We hope you’ll like the end result 😊
I am enjoying watching you repair this boat. Thank you.
Thanks for watching, Terry! 🤗
Very creative, I love the video transition from Kittiwake to Skua. Beautiful job on the teak and the secret is keeping on top of it like any bright woodwork on a boat. The teak decks are fantastic if you maintain them (caulking, plugs and cleaning) I was a watch leader on a square rigger for a few years and weekly we would clean the teak deck, always brushing in the direction of the grain using a week solution of oxalic acid and scourers.
Thanks a lot Roy. Wow how awesome! What a job 😍
Do you have any tips for the oxalic acid? We tried it on the bowsprit grate and managed to get the wood go almost white 🙈
Sailing Kittiwake the oxalic acid is good for getting rid of the stains, rust, food etc. we mixed a weak solution in a bucket with water. It was quite weak, I don’t remember exactly but we never wore gloves so it was quite mild. Then we would scrub the deck along the grain with fine bricks almost like a pumice stone, I think a scourer would work just as well. Once finished hosed it off with sea water and when it dried it came up a beautiful light colour.
Teak is a work of love.
No doubt 😊
What a stunning beauty she is, this Skua!
Some loving strokes with an oily brush, a little bit of black goop here and there, and she looks better than on her launch day.
She definitely responds well to our efforts :)
I am happy for you good looking boat , many thanks
Cheers Rimas! We love her 😊
Have a cup of tea in the morning, much more refreshing than coffee!
He's British - he has coffee in the morning, then tea aaaaall day loooong. Haha!
Nah, tea belongs in the harbor ;)
@@Frindleeguy In the harbour? What a waste of tea!
😂😂😂 this is getting interesting.
@@peteredwards338 Sometimes, wasting tea is the only way to get Brits to listen!!! Haha
Glad to see you restored instead of tearing them out looks great .
Thanks a lot Dave, so far we're loving the decks!
Great how you showed thé difference between a small and a Nice boat ☺
Thé new boat is looking very Nice old style ' with a lot of wood.
Great video as usual . Thanks and lots of succes in you're Future projects and Sailing.
Thank you Raoul! Hope you enjoy the channel 😊
The story learning of your adventure plus education on repairs is great. Keep going
Thanks Edward! 😊
For being in the business of making videos on your channel for just a short time you are doing an excellent job. Congratulations.
The way you opened this video, showing the size difference between Kittiwake and Skua was very effective. Having now watched several of your past videos I can clearly see Kittiwake is tossed around like a cork in the waves. Surely Skua will be a welcome change. You are one of the very few transitioning from a cat to a mono but it makes perfect sense.
I love the wood but obviously it has to be a labor of love because keeping it up will be a constant job. The boat is beautiful and worthy of your attention.
Can't wait for you to hit the high seas.
Thanks so much, John! When we announced the change many people thought Kittiwake was bigger than Skua - boats look bigger on video - so we decided to try to show the difference in size before the transition. We're so glad it shows! :)
It's great to have new viewers like you, who take the time to give us feedback in the comments. We appreciate it a lot. All the best, Elena and Ryan
Wow, so many changes. I absolutely love everything about your new boat. The lines, the history, the comfort...it's like going from a Mini to a Rolls in so many ways. I can't wait to hear your reviews on her sailing ability and her comfort factor. She may not win any races, but you won't feel exhausted when you get there...so civilized. :) Additionally, your video work has been fantastic. I'm so looking forward to seeing your beauty at anchor. Thanks!
Thanks so much Clay, she does feel very luxurious in an understated sort of way, and oh so comfortable to live in. We'll hopefully be able to convey how she is to sail. All the best.
Best of luck with the new boat.
Thank you! 😊
Excellent video guys. Keep the teak on a traditional looking boat like yours. Good luck!
Thank you! 😊 We do love the look of it!
Putting in some more "sweat equity" really pays off in the long run. Look at how beautiful your decks look now! I LOVE Skua and you kids must be in heaven with all of the "new" room compared to Kittiwake. The intro was so perfect showing how different the boats are. Looking forward to seeing each step of Skua's refitting! You kids did great with this boat purchase.
LOVE the teak decks!!!!
Cheers Edward! You're so kind. We love Skua already. Although, as they say, you never forget your first love ;) We keep staring at what feels like a huge saloon and wonder if we own her for real. Hehe.
You're such great support with your comments, thank you!
I had them on my 1981 Hans Christian. Had to redo them like you did. I loved them though. Great, soft, non skid. A couple buckets of salt water every morning and they stayed a beautiful silver. Love the Tayana 37, sails better than the HC.
Cheers John! Yes, they do look beautiful. Did you sail in the tropics at all? Did the decks get too hot to walk on barefoot? That's one of our worries.
I sailed from San Francisco to Maine via the Panama Canal. That was in the early 90’s. I don’t remember them being to hot to walk on and we had our 80 lb Labrador with us and he seemed fine with them too!
Awesome! 😊 That sounds like a wonderful and adventurous trip by the way.
How did you deal with those occasional stains from oily food and sauces drips, diesel, WD40 ect...?
We've found most things (except ATF) disappear - part of the magic of teak decks I think!
Beautiful boat and you are clearly working very hard. Well done
Thanks a lot James, yep she needs some upkeep but she's worth it.
Wow, very organised and disciplined. Great job guys!
Thanks a lot Matthew, organisation is key to doing so many jobs on the boat - we have many spreadsheets!
WOW - that takes a lot of patience.
Yep, we’re not going to lie 😁
That woodskin really perked up the look of the wood! She's gonna look great!
Cheers! 😊
Nice work on decks looking good x
Cheers David! x
Ryan, nothing like headroom! Great to see you two making progress on the brightwork and teak decks and that the decks below the teak are in good shape! That's one handsome boat you have, cheers!
Cheers Daniel. It's satisfying.
Skua looks much better, really enjoying seeing how you guys do various jobs, really looking forward to more “repairs on a shoestring budget”
Can definitely see Ryan’s much more comfortable on Skua (never really realised how tall he is on Kittiwake!)
Thanks a lot Paul! Hehe most people didn’t, so we shot that cheeky sequence 😁
Good job!!! A lot of work but worth it in the end!! 👍
Sooo worth it 😊
Really good job on the bright work and the teak deck. Too late for this time around but if you have the tool buying urge try and get hold of a Japanese pull saw to use for trimming teak plugs and then just finish off with the chisel ( this method preserves the chisel’s keenness for much longer.😀👍⛵️
Thanks a lot Norman, I've been thinking of getting one of those Japanese saws, is there a particular brand that is good do you know?
Sailing Kittiwake Well - like all tools you can spend a lot of money - I bought a relatively cheap one that is very very good quality from Axminster Tools in the UK (they have a good reputation) anyhoo it’s this one www.axminster.co.uk/shokunin-japanese-flushcut-saw-125mm-105019 - I am over the moon with it.😀👍
Well it all looks fantastic already, I use that make of varnish and it does last well, once a year a bit of a scrape and re varnish but it's easy to keep it nice once you've got it this good. The same with the deck, keep up with it. The boat really is nice and full of character and so worth all the hard work.
Thank you! Ah that’s great to hear 👍We read reviews but you never know how reliable they are.
Yes, she’s totally worth it 😊
I had a vicious life altering nightmare a few nights ago. And as it ha[penes, it was of this guy re caulking his week deck. I was never the same after that experience.
Looks fabulous well done guys , keep the videos coming
Cheers Albert! 😊
The bright work is looking beautiful!!
Thanks a lot guys 😊 It’s all thanks to the high quality of the materials used when she was built.
Love how you have crawl through a tunnel to get to the other part of the boat
Had to 😁 We sold her.
Sailing Kittiwake : I’m 6’5”; how tall is Ryan?
About 6ft 2 now his spine is straightened out again 😉
I absolutely love the WoodSkin product! So good to see it being applied on this kind of Vessel! So much lovely woodwork that will get heaps of attention. I do my woodwork twice a year. Only a clean and a light Shotch birght rub, and it is ready for the next layer. It is just SO rewarding to do! When you use varnish it is a bloody big job ever 3 year. Not nice to do so you will do it after 5 or 6 years with a lot of damage to the wood as a result. Skua is so happy with her new caretakers!! :-)
Yeeepppeee! We read good reviews online, so we decided to trust them. Glad you like the product and can vouch for it :) We hope we won't need to sand it back much, so we don't lose more teak :)
Any idea what it's called in North America? I can't find it anywhere except for on European sites.
@@talderson1 oh dear, I have been looking too, but it seems that the brandname is a bit of a fib. Not so International at all....
@@Nerd3927 LOL! Indeed not :)
I’d email them and ask. I’ve only been to the USA once, so I don’t really know.
international-yachtpaint.com/en/au/where-to-buy/
My favorite boats is old classic wooden boats.
But a lot more maintenance then your boat.
Don't ever get rid of the take deck it gives it a classic character.
Great work guys.The cleaned teak decks look fantastic.Love the comparison between Kittiwake and Suka.Ive gone the oppersite way over the years,from 53 ft cat to 32 ft tri and now 26 ft tri.Full headroom in all though.Enjoy your new home!
Wow. Nice! The tri must be fast! Yes, full headroom is a game changer :D
Wow I would have ripped that teak deck out as they always leak and give trouble on old boats, but you guys have done such a good job it makes it look very nice and classy 👍
We’ve never had a teak deck, so even though we know they can leak, we wanted to give it a chance before ripping off the thick high quality wood 😊 There’s no way back once we do it. Plenty of off seasons to rip it out if we fancy it 😉
Sailing Kittiwake I am all with you on that one, it feels and looks so nice. I am just jealous as I have not got any wood just plastic on my deck .....and it still leaks anyway 👍I am enjoying this series as it is nice watching other people work, just before I get up and go to my office😎 very motivating...
Awesome! Thanks Martin 😊 Have a great day at work 🙌
Great tips , thanks so much for posting, so useful 🌞
Very funny comparison between the two boats😀. The new boat looks amazing, good job!
Thanks so much Dominic! 😊 Glad you found it funny 😁
Good job on the decks!
Cheers Web!
I’ve watched all you episodes. Beautiful job with the open shot/edit sequence. Well done
Wow what a difference the work makes! You two are going to have such a far greater experience on her than kittywake. Can’t wait to see her finished and in all her splendor
Thanks so much. We can't wait to show her to you :)
Excellent video. Very high quality.
Wow thank you John! 😊 We like to get a little creative every now and then.
Great intro. It was lovely to see the gain of comfort for Ryan in your new boat. By the way I already miss Kittiwake :-(
Your hard work I really think has paid off beautiful keep the teak seams to me doing what you’ve done would keep a better value it really set it off great work 👍👍
Thank you, Chad! 😊
Brilliant job guys, hard dirty work doing teak trim and decks but worth it. Must try that wood skin myself as currently resorting to oil and that really doesn’t last long on the teak. Great music too, loved those tunes so off to find them. Andy UK
Cheers Andy! So far so good but it’s not been long - the real test will be the salt 😊
I think your intro was a good way of explaining the upgrade :)
Thanks Michael! 😊 Glad it worked 👍
Awesome video, I just have one wish. You mentioned briefly that you consider the balsa core being in sufficient good condition, to not rip out the teak completely. It would have been an excellent addition to this episode if you have included that investigation. Fair winds and well done work. :-)
The investigation was in the episode where we buy the boat 😊 when we hold up the balsa sample close to the camera 😊
And best original screenplay goes to...Nice work
And best comment ever received goes to... thank you! :) We love making the videos.
Looks great. For future reference, be careful to only scrub your teak decks with a soft brush and against the grain. If you scrub with the grain you will wear down the wood and leave the grain raised.
Thanks for the tip Andrew. We followed the instructions on the old bottle of starbrite we had and it worked a treat but for normal cleaning we'll be softer on them.
Fein makes a blade specifically for removing caulk in teak decks. Comes in different widths....amazing!!!
Yep I looked at it but most of our caulking was already so detached that it didn't seem worth the expense - the painters tool worked really well for us. The hardest bit was cleaning the inside of the seams which the multitool (ours is a Bosch version but the same as a Fein) did really well
Excited for you guys. That's one beautiful looking boat.
Thank you Mário 😊 She’s changing so much under our very eyes 😍
Madonna! Mi sono stancato solo guardandovi lavorare !
Haha! Io questa volta non ho fatto molto ma lavoravo per guadagnare la pagnotta ;) e i dindini per i lavori.
@@SailingKittiwake complimenti al capitano per la bravura e manualità avete avuto in gran culo se mi passi l eufemismo perché pur rovinato dagli anni ha tenuto non infradiciandosi e il restauro lo ha portato quasi all' antica bellezza
Si hai ragione Maurizio! Sotto il grigio c'era il color miele. Non ovunque ma in tanti posti.
Great job on the decks! We have teak decks on our 36' trawler, teak decks are great underfoot, but it is a bit of work to keep up with them. Someday we may decide to remove ours and not replace. I am avoiding that if possible. Great idea to tighten them up before Winter. Our decks hate cold weather the freeze and thaw is tough on them. Hope to have the boat down South next Winter. Ryan must love the headroom on your new boat. The Tayana is a Beauty! JP
Cheers JP! We do love the look and feel of them. We hope they won’t leak any time soon 🤞 Hope you can take your boat south soon 😊
This video was great. Good job :)
Thank you, Roberta! Great to see a woman comment on the channel! 😊🤗 -Elena
For removing varnish (and a whole lot of other jobs) I cannot recommend highly enough the value of a Bahco #625 and #650 scraper and a selection of profiled blades for the #625. They are relatively inexpensive and will wipe both hours and effort from jobs such as varnish removal and will also permit a much higher standard of preparation to be achieved. I do not work for Bahco nor have any commercial interest. I have done more refinishing work than I care to think about and I can guarantee you that you will wonder how you ever got by without them. They are available on E Bay and you will get change out of $50 U.S. for the lot.
I love your new yacht and really enjoy your channell. I wish you guys all the best for the future.
Thanks for the tip David, we use a lot of bahco tools as they’re usually well made and not too pricey. We used something similar for scraping the antifouling off of kittiwake before coppercoating her and it worked really well. I found that the heatgun did most of the work with the coating that was on Skua’s woodwork with the scraper just there to take away the soft material afterwards.
@@SailingKittiwake, Thanks for the reply, it's great that you're aware of the products and have used something similar before. As for removing antifouling, if I ever have to do that job again I'll use an enemy!. Sandblasting, sanding, scraping all work especially if you've got the help of friends but watching someone that you really don't like performing the task is much more satisfying.
That's a beautiful boat! ❤️
I guess since you have until some time in May to get ready, why not do the finery? Skua is dreamy, I'm so happy you have headroom.
Thanks Wanda! It feels like a dream 😁
Great job on the teak decks. The thick old Tiwanese teak decks don't have to be removed . The skinny rubbish put on these days caused most of the issues. Sailing la brisa with a similiar old bob perry boat on BOB's advise kept their teak decks and they are in the HOT Gulf of Mexico. With no leaks you could if you really wanted cover up with a layer of fiberglass and then put treadmark or similar on top but I don't think it will be so bad.
One idea for 10 years from now is to use the method we used to put the grooves into a teak deck we put on a boat by gluing only the teak to a bs1088 marine ply skin over the fiberglass. We cut the 'fake' grooves with a 1/4" router bit guided off the groove next to it. Some other tricks but that's the basic idea. It would be a good way to remove the old sealant and leave a clean groove. But 10+ years from now I hope!
Loved the intro! Cheers Warren
If you had a small cup with paint thinner in it, dunk your smoothing tool in it before you smooth out caulk. Works much better. GOOD LUCK,👍 Vinny 🇺🇸
Ah great tip! Wish I'd known that at the time, hopefully someone about to undertake the job will find this comment.
Looks amazing, beautiful boat. You must be itching to sail her. Only recently subscribed but seen all your episodes. Love it.
Wow that’s amazing! Thanks for watching 🤗
I don’t know why but Ryan waking up and immediately grabbing a t shirt right gave me the giggles
He wouldn’t redo the shot 🙄😂 So the second time I made him get up with one on already 😁
Hi, She is absolutely beautiful! With the layers of varnish, i would use much more layers. I used to work with oil varnish on my boats and 3 layers are good for interior use. I dont believe much synthetic varnishes. It is based on evaporating component, which make cracks inside varnish in the start. The result is that weathering is making biger and biger cracks and once water start penetrate to wood, it starts graying and peel off. I have never used international varnishes. I think its good choice, but the time will show. Although they say oil paint has good UV protection, after two years i can see that the wood is changing color under the sun. But the varnish stay in good condition. I used to work with minimum of 7 layers.
Looking good. I'm glad you didn't find any deck issues so far. Do you have a good handle on the make up of your spares kit that this boat will need?Curious on how you will handle stowing your tender?
Hi Ken, we'll work on the spares kit while we're sailing around the Med - I think only time will tell, but hopefully we can get it sorted before we leave Europe and easily available spares. Some things, like the windlass gypsy for example, are so old that they need to be repaired rather than replaced I think, and the genoa cars - I'm not sure they're even available any more, so we might need to improvise a bit or got some things made up as we go. Great question though! The tender will go upside down on the cabin top (possible as we're getting rid of the staysail boom) or on the davits if we're not going out to sea.
Thanks great work bet she looks like new once you two are finished 👍 intrested to see if you put anything on the teak decks? I only have teak in the cockpit seats and handrails but have used wessex teak cleaner and then sealed with semco got to admit happy with the results wouldn't go back to teak oil again.
Hi Al, nope we're planning to let the decks go silver but trying to keep them clean so that they're that nice light silver not the grubby grey like when we got the boat. Our slip neighbours are semco fans though - and it looked pretty user friendly when they were doing it
@@SailingKittiwake yep easy to use but is a tad expensive
Lovely
Thank you! 😊
I don't envy you doing all those seams and bright work, but Skua's going to sparkle ✨ when you two are finished. :) Was that the biggest job you had to do? Being tall I also enjoyed the intro. 👍
You should get a Bob Perry boat, he was tall so most of his boats seem to have good headroom. Yep, probably the biggest overall job was either the woodwork or stripping the non-skid on the cabin top (more of that in a future episode!) although we just broke it down to manageable chunks, and after all the stripping, putting the woodskin on didn't really feel like work, it felt like a rest day!
OMG! That looks unbelievable tedious! Thanks for posting the video. (Note to self: No teak ever anywhere near my deck. Check.)
Haha we were really prepared not to like having the teak deck and thought we'd just see how it goes, maybe rip it up eventually... but we love it! No muddy footprints everywhere like with painted decks, great non skid without being hard underfoot, and we love the look of it. For a boat like ours, it's got to have a teak deck, it's just got to :)
@@SailingKittiwake As an aesthetically challenged single man I will happily call the muddy footprints "modern art" and patiently await the next rainfall. ;-)
I tell you what; teak decks look lovely when they are down, but laying them was the worst job I did when working for a boatbuilder, who shall remain nameless. Caulking everywhere. I take my hat off to you for having the patience to dig it out and recaulk. I had an old skinny mortice chisel I kept purely for this job, and I guarded it with my life. Horrible job; chapeau to you for doing it. Removing the teak to leave the glass deck will be a nightmare and the deck will have to be filled, faired and re-gelled and grip-decked as the texture will have been ground off to lay the bond for the teak. I think that you'd be better sticking with the teak, at least until it is completely worn out, when you'll have to remove the old stuff anyway. I wish you luck, either way!
Thanks a lot Chris! We figured we’d try it first 😊 We can always rip it out, but once it’s gone, it’s gone 😊
@@SailingKittiwake Teak is def kinder on the eyes than bright white decks when the sun is beating down. One thing; you might have to drill out a mill bigger when replacing the missing plugs as the holes are often damaged. But then epoxy will fix most things if you aren't too precious about how it looks. :-))
Love the intro!
Cheers! I loved filming it and editing it 😊 -Elena
omg , how much time and work to mask off all those seams !! job well done
You don't want to know! Thanks very much.
Just got some good WiFi so catching up, really good vid highlighting a job which is looming for me ☹️
Thanks a lot Iain! It’s tough but very rewarding 😊
Next time, consider a linoleum knife as well as your 5 way painter's tool. Also, spend a few quid on a Japanese Dozuki saw. Cuts on the pull, flexible, only set on one side. You can saw those plugs off 95% flush in about 6 strokes. Much faster than carving them off.
Who sings the song Time Flies? Great work on the boat - beautiful! I've got tons of deck work ahead~
Cheers Sandra! 😊 the huge effort will be worth it 👌
Sorry we can’t remember, it’s a song from Epidemic Sound.
nice job on filming / editing Thumbs Up :D
Thanks a lot - we've been putting a lot of effort into the filming, glad you appreciate it
Looks great! You'r painters hook is actually called a 5way painters tool..
Finally we know what it’s called!! 😁😁😁 thank you 👍 😊
In the South we call it a "5 in 1" ;)
What kind of oil varnish hybrid did you use, the brand? Any regrets? Whey did you like it or not like it? Thanks!
Try running a piece of string in between the teak before you apply the prep for the sealant that way you will only prep the sides of the teak
Ha! Good idea, thanks!
looking good! that was a lot of work in this episode... that seemed like about 3 weeks worth of time?
Thanks, Chase. A liittle bit longer we think :D We had so many projects going on at the same time ("too much wind to sand, let's service the engine," "it's raining, let's build shelves",...) it's hard to give you a precise timeline :)
@@SailingKittiwake LOL understood... :)
@@SailingKittiwake There is no such thing like a timeline in ownerbuilt project boats. That's why they usually come out way better than the average yardwork/pro work on elderly yachts when it comes to the fiddly timeconsuming things.
Love the new boat just watched you catch up with RubyRose are you still in Ripta
Cheers Ian! No, we’re in Sardinia 😊 We’re speeding up the boat work videos to catch up to real time 😊
How many tubes of caulking did it take? I’ve got the same job to do soon :(
That blade from Fein should fit your multi tool.
Haha, even the coffee maker could stand taller!
It’s like this boat is for giants! 😂
You have same coffee makers I use on sailboat
And plastic razor blades in packs of 100 always prove helpful
I noticed when you were doing the varnish work there were wood plugs missing. I see on the deck you are also missing bungs ? There is a company called Fuller , they make counter sinks for wood. You need a number #8 counter sink. You need to reset the screw holes with the new counter sink, then install new screws not the old screws. You then need to install new bungs with epoxy , do not use any other type of glue.
After completing this cut down the plugs than sand the entire deck with a orbital sander and a series of grits of paper ending up using 180 as your last sand paper. After completed than oil the decks with a good teak oil.
I’ve been searching for your theme song and can’t find it anywhere, what’s it called?
Hey Paul, google “Love for the ocean by Martin Hall.”
@@SailingKittiwake What is the song playing at the beginning of this video - it is excellent
Sorry I can’t remember - been editing lots of videos lately and the hard drive with the music broke 😰
instead of sanding the oxidized wood use a water and bleach solution about 50-50 ...but thats for future work as im sure your finished by know
If you count the hours it takes to seal the groves (or redo later) you should have used sikaflex I am afraid. Sure, it costs a bit extra.
Why? What does sikaflex do that marineflex doesn't? Have you used both?
@@SailingKittiwake I have to admit I only used sikaflex and it did a good job. I was just referring to your quote of "trying it out". So taking a risk with such a massive job is what I commented about.
I did some googling and found no real answer but here is some testing done, not on wood/teak regretfully www.pbo.co.uk/gear/which-adhesive-sealant-is-best-20877
I really like your channel and you showed some real constructive attack on the boat to make it better, so only praise here 👍
Is the music from Jamendo? Who is the artist please...? Andy UK
It’s from Epidemic Sound. We edited so many videos lately we can’t remember each song, sorry.
You can actually get tube tips that are already flattened just for scenarios such as yours that you are doing. Saving money is one, and $4 per tube sounds great ... but there is a time to save and a time when you should use a good quality product to last. Keeping water out of your deck is one of those times mate. Now that product you used might be perfectly fine, but I would have researched it quite a bit before I simply just chose one that was cheaper in that instance. ESPECIALLY considering the amount effort of doing that as well. But then, at best that would only be a temp sol'n imho anyway as I would prolly plan on replacing the teak deck with something cooler and less maint.
I LOVE the look of natural wood and teak which is not my preferred wood, is fine. But for a deck it is simply not worth it imho. Accent wood items would be great. Small bits and sections that I would be willing to do maint. on.
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Hi! :)
"painter's hook" is called a "five in one"
i hand a old boat but it was not a sailboat
Hate ‘em. There is possible deeper damage caused by the screw holes.
You can suffer anything being thrown at you but that is NOT coffee!!!!! No excuses. A capital sin.
LOL it was the same Italian coffee - first in the moca, then in the French press 😇
@@SailingKittiwake It's the method, the end result......I'm joking as I've learned to appreciate this type of beverage on many foreign ships. By the way, a good little ship you do have.
Ah! Phew. Glad we didn't offend you :D Thanks a lot, Nemo. Always nice to see you comment.
Before you bought a boat did you have previous sailing knowledge or a complete novice?
We had owned our previous boat (episodes 1-37) for 2 years and sailed her from the UK to Sardinia.
It’s a shame that you scraped the old varnish right into the marina water, just one more containment in OUR ocean.
Hi, we didn't; we hoovered it :) To take some of the shots without the hoover in front of the camera, we first took the clip, then hoovered. That was the main reason for us investing into the hoover :)
@@SailingKittiwake 👍🏽
You went from different and interesting, to the same and boring in like 3 epasodes, good bye
See you!
I love the opening scene to this episode. 🎥 🎞