this back and forth has taught me one thing, an intellectual like maponga can only have a sensible debate/discussion with another intellectual, not someone who is too emotionaly attached to their religion
@@plaingospeltruth2427 well then leave vhristianity to the ethiopians and coptics of egypt since its their religion, it shouldnt be imposed in all of africa and less the yt bastersized version that was imposed on our ancestors through castration and intimidation and killing and raping our people into submission....lol
@AJAY16411 what makes this so nonsensical is that the clown admitted on several occasions that Mr Maponga was more educated than he on the subject 🤔 but failed to humble himself. In the words of Dr. JOHN HENRY CLARK: I ONLY DEBATE WITH MY PEERS AND ALL OTHERS I TEACH!!
@@earlmontgomery847You and MJ have lived in different times. You will never understand his bitterness of Christianity because he saw what Christianity did to his fellows.
The enslaved black mind will defend his slave master book more than slave master himself. The colonized black mind will defend his colonizers book more than the colonizers himself.
The modulator you are talking about, we have about 12 million more of those people in Zimbabwe. The kicker is we think we will be able to resolve our political and economic problems by the hand of Jehovah. The majority of us cannot see that the real issue is an identity crisis. If we do not know who we are as a people then we do not know what's good for us. I have nothing against god but for once can Zimbabweans please acknowledge our own god and ancestors. Until then, we will continue to be punished by forces that are greater than us for the disrespect we show to them. I can't believe my people have surrendered our land and identity to Jehovah, a deity that has nothing to do with our African identity. I've learnt to look after myself and myself only because Zimbabweans are hopeless.
I am African living America. You are so correct. It’s one of our biggest problems now. People are so desperate and give in to these so called pastors that really need to be jailed for abusing their own people.
"Religion is the organization of spirituality into something that became the hand maiden of conquerors. Nearly all religions were brought to people and imposed on people by conquerors, and used as the framework to control their minds" Dr. John Henrik Clarke
The reason why maponga should write in English is because the English men came in Africa and disrupted our African culture and spirituality. Oppressed, enslaved, colonized Africans and forced their religion on Africans. So to liberate the Africans you must use the language of the oppressors before reversing to the original African Spirituality.
The Bible is not true words of God.the Bible is the man made tool of suppression and oppression, there's no proof whatsoever that Jesus christ ever actually existed it's the biggest hoax. Church is hustle and Jesus Christ is the product.
@@elvismahlabane2821 That’s correct, but people don’t even believe that, they think God cannot speak so therefore they live life in unbelief and tell you your mad for believing in this book.
Maponga we are in a time where you will not be understood unless The Most High "remove the scales from the eyes." I am sure that in the time when Messiah was here he was the most controversial, misunderstood and that is the reason why they plotted against him. Do what you are called to do, for the message you were asked to deliver will reach who you were sent to give the message.
Ay it seems like a confused head has been in the abyss for far too long to even see the light at it presence. May we all young Africans see the light through Baba Mamponga.
What an interesting discourse!! Unfortunately,honourable Mr Maponga is debating with a wrong African who is only prepared wholeheartedly to rationalize and protect the European misconception of religion,and Africans of his kind are a lot,due to the fact that the European religion is actually beneficial to them financially. Africa is in danger of being led by Africans who do not want to unlearn and decolonize themselves,absolutely this so-called pastor in the studio should be ashamed of himself.
Mr Maponga, I love you so much that I hope you remove Joshua from your name, replacing it with our African name. You are honest and truthful. Our people are enslaved mentally and need to be taught over again. Please, moderator, don't bring this kinda man/pastor to debate with Mr Maponga because you have just wasted Mr. Maponga's precious time, which you might not get next time.
I think we blacks just spend too much time in things which makes us poorer daily while other guys discuss the AIs and how they create wealth out of solving problem facing humanity today. Education should not be confused with acquring gathering book informations it should be reduced to solving African basic problems poverty, hunger and sufferings
@@mathephoka5616 Nonsense who crossed the line first ? Why do you tell someone your in a debate with that you control him ,while the debate moderator is there😂
This FAKE pastor is not about debating, it seems he's been angry of Maponga not from that platform but for along time,, he's emotional and defensive of his lies.....
This pastor is busy ignorantly defending his bread winner.....(christianity) coz he's been brainwashed to think that religion solves all African problems. Baba maponga thx for schooling this preacher who even forgot his culture,roots by tolerating the colonial standards set in form of religion.
This is a very interesting conversation. However, my beloved brother Joshua Mapongo should not be intimidated by the ignorance and inferiority complex of his opponents. Clearly, he is much more knowledgeable and versed with Christianity and traditional spiritual practices. Speaking from a well-informed position has the edge over them. This is why he should not allow brainwashed, ignorant individuals like these to throw him off his equibrileum and get upset. He must rather use a scientific approach and expose the flaws, lies, deception, and stupidity that are prevalent in the Bible along with its intended purpose to deceive. He must also expose the prostitution, piracy, and rape of African spiritual practices and culture. Clearly point out to them how all these versions of the Bible have stolen and perverted African indigenous theology and historical facts and expose the mind mapulation inflicted up them by colonialism and racism.
These pastors are limited upstairs. Mr Maponga should never have honoured their invite. They are very difficult to engage with and more so, have limited scope biblically which they claim is their territory!!!
Even him Maponga seems to be so limited too. If he is welll educated should be able to move down to a level of any person he is discusing with... this thing of im more educated than you is a non starter show us that you are educated dont tell us
Maponga is such a great and intelligent elder he basically understands the scriptures much more than ignorant fanatics that always make their emotions speak louder than the truth they don’t need to hear always . In many cases such fanatics hates truth because they use Christianity to take money from our poor mothers and in the other hands they are leaving luxuries life.
It is clear to me that there are many more people that need to know the truth. Also they have not read the books that were taken out. When they read the books that were taken out it will be clear to them what Maponga was saying.
Maponga has to write it in English to reach the 8 billion people. The guys Maponga is debating with are somehow asking idiotic questions. They tell him to give them a chance to speak but they fail to do the same
This pastor has a broblem of listening. He is too emotional.I cannot learn anything from him. Maponga is telling the truth . The scripture codes many books. Thanks to Joshua Maponga❤
Knowledge, wisdom n understanding comes from above they think Christianity is all not knowing that is a western culture that has bn forced to him n his forefathers when he wakes up from slumber I hope it won't be too late cz Christian ity it's a crap read the letter of king Leopold the 2snd u Wil vomit Christianity. Hvn n ear to listen is not for everyone only the chosen
that’s a lie he told, in the book 📖 said god don’t love everyone he even regrets making certain people which he regrets doing. everyone turned religion to suit their own beliefs and theory’s, religions is a tools ⚒️ to use to suits the bearer of that belief, a book 📚 of slavers and willing slave.
That man of God is something else, if he keeps that attitude to his congregation, the mindset is horrible. Christianity was an imposed religion in our black societies during colonial era! Our forefathers used to be hanged when they refused to convert. They’re were not allowed to practice their African traditions, it was regarded as demonic or satanic! The Alkebulan people knew that there was or is a GOD before the European descended on our lands. The Pastor’s mindset needs decolonisation!
As a Christian, I think the church and especially church leaders are not yet equipped to answer some of the modern questions that are floating online and in memes.
Feedback is an unsung hero in the circles of our existence.. The acceptance vault of its voluminous scope is below par. That's all I can say about this conversation.
Everything is with understanding and wisdom and with analyzation, because lake, Of knowledge many people lost, while everything was created was written by humanity with wisdom ,and knowledge , good and bad, this is why those who have more wisdom and knowledge do not like to control others people life but lake of knowledge makes people stay under control., of others. People knowledge This is why those with wisdom and knowledge can not be control by others. peace am black and white one loved .
Colonization is still doing its work in the name of Christianity. What people dont understand is that there's a difference between Christianity and Faith/Religion
Some people react violently when someone suddenly wakes them up from sleeping, when they sleep they get without giving and can be anything they want to be. that's why all the aggression when they are woken up by someone...Bayeke Belale Baba Maponga.
Maponga is in point. The other guest is simply ignorant and devoid of any sense of intelligence. He has no source of substance apart from screaming and yelling over intelligible facts from Maponga.
The young man who is talking with Joshua is talking out of a belief in a religion while Joshua's conversation is based on knowledge of scriptures and a cultural awareness.
Revelation 22 v 18 18For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him plagues that are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Corinthians 1:18The message of the cross is foolishness to those destined for the lake of fire , but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. Maponga is the devils agent, in his arrogance thinks he has better wisdom than what the Holy Bible says about Christ
God did not create consequences; rather, the devil took on the role of custodian for a consequence known as sin. God's creation was perfect and immaculate; thus, any violation of purity, positivity, and sanctity is a result of one's own actions, termed choice. Maponga is said to serve two masters.
this back and forth has taught me one thing, an intellectual like maponga can only have a sensible debate/discussion with another intellectual, not someone who is too emotionaly attached to their religion
Or Maponga is running away from a direct question because there is nothing europian in the bible.
@@plaingospeltruth2427 well then leave vhristianity to the ethiopians and coptics of egypt since its their religion, it shouldnt be imposed in all of africa and less the yt bastersized version that was imposed on our ancestors through castration and intimidation and killing and raping our people into submission....lol
@AJAY16411 what makes this so nonsensical is that the clown admitted on several occasions that Mr Maponga was more educated than he on the subject 🤔 but failed to humble himself. In the words of Dr. JOHN HENRY CLARK: I ONLY DEBATE WITH MY PEERS AND ALL OTHERS I TEACH!!
Well said. The guy is so emotional and good slave with no intellectuel capacity.
@@earlmontgomery847You and MJ have lived in different times. You will never understand his bitterness of Christianity because he saw what Christianity did to his fellows.
What Joshua is saying clearly, when you convert to European Christianity, you are converting to European culture.
Cultural imperialism. Islam, Christianity, Judaism
Yes
Yes yes
And it's true
😂 kunjalo
Maponga is just above these guys,they’re drunk with colonial wine.
you said it better, I was going to be rude
It’s a shame to see Africans being gatekeepers for European.
The enslaved black mind will defend his slave master book more than slave master himself. The colonized black mind will defend his colonizers book more than the colonizers himself.
Not the same league
You said it better because i was vibrating already
The modulator is colonized totally, as a African American I see these type as being Africa's biggest problem.
Unfortunately, they can be found in all of our communities.
Each generation will be programmed to fellow, the same old Bible because it works like charm
The modulator you are talking about, we have about 12 million more of those people in Zimbabwe. The kicker is we think we will be able to resolve our political and economic problems by the hand of Jehovah. The majority of us cannot see that the real issue is an identity crisis. If we do not know who we are as a people then we do not know what's good for us. I have nothing against god but for once can Zimbabweans please acknowledge our own god and ancestors. Until then, we will continue to be punished by forces that are greater than us for the disrespect we show to them. I can't believe my people have surrendered our land and identity to Jehovah, a deity that has nothing to do with our African identity. I've learnt to look after myself and myself only because Zimbabweans are hopeless.
Yeah he's one of them white folks in black skin😮😮
I am African living America. You are so correct. It’s one of our biggest problems now. People are so desperate and give in to these so called pastors that really need to be jailed for abusing their own people.
The pastor has a laptop with him and maponga is speaking off head,that shows how small the pastor is
Don't even feel like visiting his church. Little knowledge he has
These are guys who deny that before colonialists came they started with religion 🤔, that guy needs to wake up from his delusional world.
Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔
You mean your cultures that have immoralities like night dancing and human sacrifices and child sacrifices.!!!!!
Wake up Mr.
@@musiitwajulious you don't know your history???????????????????????????????????????????? Or you want me to talk about avengers, wakanda 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Religion is the organization of spirituality into something that became the hand maiden of conquerors. Nearly all religions were brought to people and imposed on people by conquerors, and used as the framework to control their minds"
Dr. John Henrik Clarke
Master teacher
@@lacinabakayoko4634He’s dearly and sorely missed… but his legacy lives on, awakening consciousnesses worldwide…🥹
The reason why maponga should write in English is because the English men came in Africa and disrupted our African culture and spirituality. Oppressed, enslaved, colonized Africans and forced their religion on Africans. So to liberate the Africans you must use the language of the oppressors before reversing to the original African Spirituality.
Identity crisis
Wow ❤wow@@lacinabakayoko4634
Wow ❤
Why should he write in Hebrew? These two are confused
The bible is not the word of God!!
The Bible is not true words of God.the Bible is the man made tool of suppression and oppression, there's no proof whatsoever that Jesus christ ever actually existed it's the biggest hoax. Church is hustle and Jesus Christ is the product.
It's a record of what happened
it’s history and prophecy which contains the word of The Most High for our instruction and direction into the next life.
But specifically for people of esrael .Bible talk about relationship between esrael and God
@@elvismahlabane2821 That’s correct, but people don’t even believe that, they think God cannot speak so therefore they live life in unbelief and tell you your mad for believing in this book.
Maponga we are in a time where you will not be understood unless The Most High "remove the scales from the eyes." I am sure that in the time when Messiah was here he was the most controversial, misunderstood and that is the reason why they plotted against him. Do what you are called to do, for the message you were asked to deliver will reach who you were sent to give the message.
🙌
Watching frm kampala Uganda
I love Maponga with soul, body and mind. He opened my eyes and i deceased frm entering church buildings
Ay it seems like a confused head has been in the abyss for far too long to even see the light at it presence. May we all young Africans see the light through Baba Mamponga.
Many of us see content & wisdom.
maponga the most intelligent man in the world
According to your level of understanding.
What an interesting discourse!! Unfortunately,honourable Mr Maponga is debating with a wrong African who is only prepared wholeheartedly to rationalize and protect the European misconception of religion,and Africans of his kind are a lot,due to the fact that the European religion is actually beneficial to them financially.
Africa is in danger of being led by Africans who do not want to unlearn and decolonize themselves,absolutely this so-called pastor in the studio should be ashamed of himself.
Exactly 💯
Maponga J Son of kings n Queens knwladge is power, teach the brother and long live 💪
Christianity much to be shut down in African ones and for all
Same also Islam
Truly brother
Exactly, we need to do away with this colonial system
Maponga is son of kings 🤴, emotionally or not He still settles the dust down
I love and respect him to pieces …🪘✊🏽🪘
Maponga is light years ahead of those two MPIMPI’s
Mpimpis made my day
Religion is opium to the masses african people are intoxicated by this opium
I think that pastor needs help he last...big up Joshua
Colonized mind defending his colonizers book.
Religious psychosis
Henrik Clark said " I only debate with equals" Maponga needs an equal. UBUNTU
The rest I teach 👊
Yes,, what a wise man
The interviewer is so rude and unprofessional not to mention ignorant😮😮😮😮😮 These individuals are beneath Joshua Maponga 👩🏽⚖️👩🏽⚖️👩🏽⚖️👩🏽⚖️
He’s so ignorant.
💯 every day all day
Mr Maponga, I love you so much that I hope you remove Joshua from your name, replacing it with our African name. You are honest and truthful. Our people are enslaved mentally and need to be taught over again. Please, moderator, don't bring this kinda man/pastor to debate with Mr Maponga because you have just wasted Mr. Maponga's precious time, which you might not get next time.
I think we blacks just spend too much time in things which makes us poorer daily while other guys discuss the AIs and how they create wealth out of solving problem facing humanity today. Education should not be confused with acquring gathering book informations it should be reduced to solving African basic problems poverty, hunger and sufferings
The gap of intelligence is too wide
I believe the Pastor has the anger issues, the dude won't just listen.🙌
😂😂😂
Religious psychosis
More than Maponga who wants to beat the other guy?
Taitorohwa kuti tiende kuchurch so christianity is a forced religion to us....
@@mathephoka5616 Nonsense who crossed the line first ? Why do you tell someone your in a debate with that you control him ,while the debate moderator is there😂
This FAKE pastor is not about debating, it seems he's been angry of Maponga not from that platform but for along time,, he's emotional and defensive of his lies.....
When it comes to religion most people are nothing but overgrown children.the more absurd a religion is the more power it exerts
Joshua Maponga thank you 🤩 only god one day will come and show him or her self but thank you for loving Africa
This was an insult to Joshua Maponga. No, it was definitely the wrong place to be for him
This pastor is busy ignorantly defending his bread winner.....(christianity) coz he's been brainwashed to think that religion solves all African problems. Baba maponga thx for schooling this preacher who even forgot his culture,roots by tolerating the colonial standards set in form
of religion.
These men speak so on learn, drunken in the wine/ blood of Christianity
the other pastor is too emotional for this debate whilst Maponga is relaxed
Maponga is 💎💎💎 God blessed him🎉
The pastor has anger issues , he is boiling ,cant accept the truth
This is a very interesting conversation. However, my beloved brother Joshua Mapongo should not be intimidated by the ignorance and inferiority complex of his opponents. Clearly, he is much more knowledgeable and versed with Christianity and traditional spiritual practices. Speaking from a well-informed position has the edge over them. This is why he should not allow brainwashed, ignorant individuals like these to throw him off his equibrileum and get upset.
He must rather use a scientific approach and expose the flaws, lies, deception, and stupidity that are prevalent in the Bible along with its intended purpose to deceive. He must also expose the prostitution, piracy, and rape of African spiritual practices and culture. Clearly point out to them how all these versions of the Bible have stolen and perverted African indigenous theology and historical facts and expose the mind mapulation inflicted up them by colonialism and racism.
As long it does not go with scriptures i dont protect it", where is the ring in the bible😂😂😂😂😂
I would like to see a debate between Gino Jennings and Maponga.
Tha would be fire 🔥 🔥 😅
Jenny a fool
Maponga vs two students 😅
You are every right
Not in the same league
“The higher christianity grows, the higher the immorality on the continent “.
Do you believe this to be true?
Same also Islam
💯 Religion brings in the notion of "I can do anything and then always ask for forgiveness". No consequences, nothing
💯 ,A good example is Nigeria.@@teem7303
@@CS-wn5lv That is the problem.
These pastors are limited upstairs. Mr Maponga should never have honoured their invite. They are very difficult to engage with and more so, have limited scope biblically which they claim is their territory!!!
Even him Maponga seems to be so limited too. If he is welll educated should be able to move down to a level of any person he is discusing with... this thing of im more educated than you is a non starter show us that you are educated dont tell us
Maponga is such a great and intelligent elder he basically understands the scriptures much more than ignorant fanatics that always make their emotions speak louder than the truth they don’t need to hear always .
In many cases such fanatics hates truth because they use Christianity to take money from our poor mothers and in the other hands they are leaving luxuries life.
It is clear to me that there are many more people that need to know the truth. Also they have not read the books that were taken out. When they read the books that were taken out it will be clear to them what Maponga was saying.
Maponga has to write it in English to reach the 8 billion people. The guys Maponga is debating with are somehow asking idiotic questions. They tell him to give them a chance to speak but they fail to do the same
I wonder why the Bible was translated into English…🤔
"We have all night. We can have this conversation for SIX WEEKS. I'm here!"
- J. Maponga
😹
“ I only debate my equals; all others I teach…”
(Ancestor Dr John Henrik Clarke)
Maponga is the G.O.A.T😂😂😂😂❤❤❤
This pastor has a broblem of listening. He is too emotional.I cannot learn anything from him. Maponga is telling the truth . The scripture codes many books. Thanks to Joshua Maponga❤
Knowledge, wisdom n understanding comes from above they think Christianity is all not knowing that is a western culture that has bn forced to him n his forefathers when he wakes up from slumber I hope it won't be too late cz Christian ity it's a crap read the letter of king Leopold the 2snd u Wil vomit Christianity. Hvn n ear to listen is not for everyone only the chosen
Once you start feeling that you have more wisdom than the rest that's where the problems Begin
Maponga just wiped the floor with the panel😂
that’s a lie he told, in the book 📖 said god don’t love everyone he even regrets making certain people which he regrets doing. everyone turned religion to suit their own beliefs and theory’s, religions is a tools ⚒️ to use to suits the bearer of that belief, a book 📚 of slavers and willing slave.
Fundamentalism is a problem. This pastor has a serious problem.
I think the modulator is against maponga. He's supposed to be asking to both like a debate. I for one the interviewer is a failure.
It's a pity the pastor is still lingering on the past slumber .he cannot debate with maponga
Christianity it is not a religion it is a business
That man of God is something else, if he keeps that attitude to his congregation, the mindset is horrible. Christianity was an imposed religion in our black societies during colonial era! Our forefathers used to be hanged when they refused to convert. They’re were not allowed to practice their African traditions, it was regarded as demonic or satanic! The Alkebulan people knew that there was or is a GOD before the European descended on our lands. The Pastor’s mindset needs decolonisation!
Talk truth Mr.Maponga
29:50 the mere fact my brother truly had to explain this is embarrassing🤦🏾♂️ he really thought he had Wise one here 😂😂😂 wow😂😂😂
If you mean Maponga ,boy is he wise !
The Moderator is biased. Exactly how ZEC handles elections in Zimbabwe. 😢😢😢
Maponga is on another level
GOD=Government Ordinance Department...control over your basic life.
🎯👏🏾
As a Christian, I think the church and especially church leaders are not yet equipped to answer some of the modern questions that are floating online and in memes.
Greetings && Grand Rising!! Great to be in ur presence MJ. Nemetoka visiwa vya carrebian St Kitts & Nevis 🇰🇳 🇰🇳🙏🙏🙏.
Unajua kiswahili
When they both said "ejucated" instead of Educated 😂😂😂😂😂
Feedback is an unsung hero in the circles of our existence.. The acceptance vault of its voluminous scope is below par. That's all I can say about this conversation.
I’m exhausted
We have the same issues in America. They eat it. up like cornflakes here.
Everything is with understanding and wisdom and with analyzation, because lake, Of knowledge many people lost, while everything was created was written by humanity with wisdom ,and knowledge , good and bad, this is why those who have more wisdom and knowledge do not like to control others people life but lake of knowledge makes people stay under control., of others. People knowledge This is why those with wisdom and knowledge can not be control by others. peace am black and white one loved
.
@9:02 mr maponga views about polygamy are mistaken. However, for the most part, in what he has said, he is correct.
Let's all shout, Maponga.. Maponga... 💪💪💪✊✊✊
I'm from Zambia, and I am with Maponga. Maponga is definitely right and is way above the pastor and moderator in interlect. Way way above.
Christianity has really been influential in the African mind
And I quote,"you control your wife not me."😂😂
Sambos are everywhere...yes sir maser....viva maponga viva...Hotep...
Family the scriptures is our history but its revelation is for humanity
Always with you maponga🇿🇲💪
Conversations like these need 3 hours
We are Africans for sure the ATR IS WHAT WE MUST GO FOR
Maponga is intelligent
Pastor your only augument is why is he writing in English, like seriously 😂
This person interviewing j maponga sounds like my ex wife..argue about everything
😂😂
😅😂😆 😂 🤣 😅 😂
😅😅😅😅
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂you really killed me man...plz don't do that
Maponga needs a debate with someone who is not emotionally attached to colonial culture
The pastor can’t match Maponga what a waste of time for maponga
Maponga is brilliant but at the same time can confused people if he wants.
Colonization is still doing its work in the name of Christianity. What people dont understand is that there's a difference between Christianity and Faith/Religion
This conversation should have been, Maponga tell us about your beliefs and Pastor tell us yours. So that we hear it from both sides.
Some people react violently when someone suddenly wakes them up from sleeping, when they sleep they get without giving and can be anything they want to be. that's why all the aggression when they are woken up by someone...Bayeke Belale Baba Maponga.
Maponga is in point. The other guest is simply ignorant and devoid of any sense of intelligence. He has no source of substance apart from screaming and yelling over intelligible facts from Maponga.
Next time host, please bring Maponga's peers, not this match, period!!!
Very powerful words of wisdom 👏 🙌
Joshua does not know what he is talking about at all.
The young man who is talking with Joshua is talking out of a belief in a religion while Joshua's conversation is based on knowledge of scriptures and a cultural awareness.
Maponga argues based on FACTS Not on Emotions.
Revelation 22 v 18
18For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him plagues that are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Corinthians 1:18The message of the cross is foolishness to those destined for the lake of fire , but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Maponga is the devils agent, in his arrogance thinks he has better wisdom than what the Holy Bible says about Christ
Arguing and not listening is acceptable. This is the problem talking about this is a very hard situation.
We respect J Maponga. Like him or hate him.
Whit.man.madnis.make.blackman mad
That naive Pastor came to argue rather than having a conversation.
Morena Maphonga understand Yahweh's assignment ❤
God did not create consequences; rather, the devil took on the role of custodian for a consequence known as sin. God's creation was perfect and immaculate; thus, any violation of purity, positivity, and sanctity is a result of one's own actions, termed choice. Maponga is said to serve two masters.
"so stupidity is a solution"said Mr Joshua Maponga🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm not saying anything.