I really dislike the Loki change. It immediately loses all synergy with card generating decks, and it also slims down Arishem decks to make them less susceptible to Darkhawk and Cassandra Nova! Why play Loki in any other decks now?
Really not a fan of the Loki nerf. It completely erased his unique archetype which although felt bad to face at times, it couldn't have been over performing for him to live for so long. It's also sad they didn't even give him a chance like other cards with a nerf like removing his discounts, which would've nerfed both his archetype and Arishem. If he still did too well, then they could push this change. But now outside of Arishem you're only getting 4 cards without Limbo, and 6 max with crystal and Magik. Maybe Adam Warlock cope or Maximus hopium would draw more, but that's hard, and better 5 drops can be used, so pure Loki is unplayable unless someone finds a deck for him outside of Arishem. It's hard to believe he's season pass and cant justify unlocking him anymore. It's also kind of a buff to Arishem because darkhawk will be way smaller. It's sad to see Loki be confined to Arishem now, I really enjoyed playing him occasionally.
Man... im not a whale or a god tier player so i dont have arishem, my loki deck was a collector synergy... now that deck is just dead. I get that it was a strong card to reroll your hand in arishem but this removes literally any other play from it. Loki is now only playable in arishem decks because he was in too many arishem decks. I get why it happened but this needs reversing.
@Rambrus0 i dont know why my reply was deleted, but let me reiterate - add cards to hand helps collector - more cards in hand helps loki - both have synergy with quinjet Its not about loki buffing collector. Its about having a simular and synergistic decklist
@@Rambrus0 I made infinite with that deck this season, Collector worked pretty well in that deck even without the direct buff with Loki, since he was buffed by Snowguard, Mirage, Cable, Kitty, Coulson, he was a pretty solid 2/6, 2/7 (or even more) card most of the times.
Contrary to popular belief of content creators about Loki's nerf is actually a buff, to Arishem players. You play him on turn 2 and your 19-20 cards Arishem deck got trimmed to 12 and you draw 1 so it's 11 cards, if you have pre-build Adam Warlock in the deck, he will generate you card draws. And now it is actually canon, remember Loki in the MCU now rewrites stories, and Loki in snap rewrites the deck, in MTG, your deck is called library. So you basically rewrites the books(cards) in the library(deck).
INSANE loki had such a cool effect, now you HAVE to draw quinjet before you play him otherwise you lose that extra cost reduction because the card will disapear from your deck lol
I don’t think Loki is dead I think they had buff even more arishem whit this Loki nerf I can play it in turn 2 so u play all the game with the opponent’s deck with -1 cost and +1 energy
I saved Keys for Loki. Now i am not sure i want to spent them on second week. I could easily get copycat if I used 2 more keys. Snap really scammed me here 😓
This is intended as feedback and engagement only. Casual here. Speaking just for me. Don't care. I use what I have. I play just to kill time. I'm certain, however, I'll never spend a dime on Snap again. When I leave my opponet will just face a bot instead. No biggie. Ciao ^^
I like the *Loki change. For one, more surfer boosties. Second is that sometimes i didn't play Loki 'cause i had good cards in hand, but opponent didn't have a deck i wanted(or worked in mirror). This way throwing together, maybe, a draw loki surf deck could work :D It could be even a 2 coster with the change though. Leech change is a very welcome change against destroy/discard decks though, and obvciously not welcome BY them :D
@@ninaisnoob Honestly.... It's better than changing Arishem at all. Arishem is perfectly balanced in my opinion. Every single time I've seen people complain about him, its been about those 4 cards specifically and not Arishem or his ability really. I made a comment on someone else's video pointing out those 4 cards specifically. And honestly, when there is both Darkhawk and Cassandra out there, I don't think Arishem needs to be nerfed directly.
The Loki nerf is absurdly over the top Killed an entire archetype Loki was nerfed because of Arishem and now is a card that goes into Arishem decks and nothing else
These decks were just so unfun to play against. Zeroooooo sympathy for enjoyers of these most hated cards muahaha. (Getting all the opponents cards at reduced cost is still huge, stop crying)
I really dislike the Loki change. It immediately loses all synergy with card generating decks, and it also slims down Arishem decks to make them less susceptible to Darkhawk and Cassandra Nova! Why play Loki in any other decks now?
get F ed Loki player
@@iheartcello0 it still is overall a pretty decent nerf against arishem. Not being able to just scrap your garbage hand is a pretty big hit
I think doc oc had the biggest nerf, like wtf
OMG These changes!!! Loki is dead….until the card that shuffles your hand into your deck and draw 3 cards comes along….
Damn Arishem, killing Loki and Dock Ock. 😢
All die for arishem's sin, feels bad man
I dont think those cards are bad now. They are just different
Doc Oc is just different now, less toxic and still a good card.
Really not a fan of the Loki nerf. It completely erased his unique archetype which although felt bad to face at times, it couldn't have been over performing for him to live for so long. It's also sad they didn't even give him a chance like other cards with a nerf like removing his discounts, which would've nerfed both his archetype and Arishem. If he still did too well, then they could push this change.
But now outside of Arishem you're only getting 4 cards without Limbo, and 6 max with crystal and Magik. Maybe Adam Warlock cope or Maximus hopium would draw more, but that's hard, and better 5 drops can be used, so pure Loki is unplayable unless someone finds a deck for him outside of Arishem. It's hard to believe he's season pass and cant justify unlocking him anymore.
It's also kind of a buff to Arishem because darkhawk will be way smaller. It's sad to see Loki be confined to Arishem now, I really enjoyed playing him occasionally.
Thena and nocturne needed needs the most lost over 500 cubes this season to that deck alone can’t wait
Wow meanwhile it does nothing to stop arishem from playing strong tech cards early and coulson turn 2 😅
yes but you dont have a get out of jail card with Loki now. Basicly they fixed all the broken stuff that was broken anyways but not easily abuseable
Man... im not a whale or a god tier player so i dont have arishem, my loki deck was a collector synergy... now that deck is just dead. I get that it was a strong card to reroll your hand in arishem but this removes literally any other play from it. Loki is now only playable in arishem decks because he was in too many arishem decks. I get why it happened but this needs reversing.
Collector doesnt work with Loki for a while. Kinda self tell that you dont play the game
@Rambrus0 hey, dumbass
-add cards to hand
-helps collector
-more cards in hand means better loki
-synergy with quinjet
@Rambrus0 i dont know why my reply was deleted, but let me reiterate
- add cards to hand helps collector
- more cards in hand helps loki
- both have synergy with quinjet
Its not about loki buffing collector. Its about having a simular and synergistic decklist
@@Rambrus0 I made infinite with that deck this season, Collector worked pretty well in that deck even without the direct buff with Loki, since he was buffed by Snowguard, Mirage, Cable, Kitty, Coulson, he was a pretty solid 2/6, 2/7 (or even more) card most of the times.
Well that Loki nerf saved me some keys.
Contrary to popular belief of content creators about Loki's nerf is actually a buff, to Arishem players. You play him on turn 2 and your 19-20 cards Arishem deck got trimmed to 12 and you draw 1 so it's 11 cards, if you have pre-build Adam Warlock in the deck, he will generate you card draws. And now it is actually canon, remember Loki in the MCU now rewrites stories, and Loki in snap rewrites the deck, in MTG, your deck is called library. So you basically rewrites the books(cards) in the library(deck).
Imma put Infinaut in every deck so Leech buffs him.
Infinaut tech against Leech POG
Evo decks probably gunna go ham now with giganto and infinaut
INSANE
loki had such a cool effect, now you HAVE to draw quinjet before you play him otherwise you lose that extra cost reduction because the card will disapear from your deck lol
I don’t think Loki is dead I think they had buff even more arishem whit this Loki nerf I can play it in turn 2 so u play all the game with the opponent’s deck with -1 cost and +1 energy
Doc Oc nerf really hurt.😭
I saved Keys for Loki. Now i am not sure i want to spent them on second week. I could easily get copycat if I used 2 more keys. Snap really scammed me here 😓
Those cards deserve to get nerf, really frustated against arishem when he can play loki, leech, doc oct early because +1 energy from arishem
To Marvel Snap - bring Zabu back to its glory pls
Oh thank goodness I just got Cassandra, I was hard carried by arishem loki
How do they nerf Loki and Octopus but not Silver Surfer. Every second deck is Silver Surfer.
This is intended as feedback and engagement only. Casual here. Speaking just for me. Don't care. I use what I have. I play just to kill time. I'm certain, however, I'll never spend a dime on Snap again. When I leave my opponet will just face a bot instead. No biggie. Ciao ^^
Loki taking cards that the player can not draw with one less cost sucks
I see these cards as largely ruined. I'm okay with Leech being ruined and maybe Doc Ock being ruined. Pretty sad about the others, though.
I love this update!!!! I hate LEECH
Wtf did they do to Doc Oct! Come on man! They're slacking
Loki💔
I miss day one blob 😢
I think they should have made doc oc a 4/9. 4 cost is still pretty expensive, especially since zabu is gutted
I like the *Loki change. For one, more surfer boosties. Second is that sometimes i didn't play Loki 'cause i had good cards in hand, but opponent didn't have a deck i wanted(or worked in mirror). This way throwing together, maybe, a draw loki surf deck could work :D It could be even a 2 coster with the change though.
Leech change is a very welcome change against destroy/discard decks though, and obvciously not welcome BY them :D
Wtf loki died for arishem's sins, but apoc change is good
not just loki... leech, dr oc and blob did too 😭
Thank you for the entertaining content @@ninaisnoob
@@ninaisnoob Honestly.... It's better than changing Arishem at all. Arishem is perfectly balanced in my opinion. Every single time I've seen people complain about him, its been about those 4 cards specifically and not Arishem or his ability really. I made a comment on someone else's video pointing out those 4 cards specifically. And honestly, when there is both Darkhawk and Cassandra out there, I don't think Arishem needs to be nerfed directly.
Glad I never wanted Loki and Doc normally made me win when I played against him. Since I play a ultron zoo style deck he did half the work for me.
@@An.Unsought.Thought You're not playing the game
What a wonderful day!
The worst part about the Loki nerf is that you can get duplicate cards. I played him today to see how he played out and I drew 2 iron fists 🧍🏻♂️
Thena is not getting nerf
Thena has a lot of counters that were forced out of the meta by Arishem
Doc Ock is dead with this change
I dislike everything in this ota🤬
Thank God Loki got hit.
We might have over hyped arishem
RIP Doctor Octopus he is just useless now
The Loki nerf is absurdly over the top
Killed an entire archetype
Loki was nerfed because of Arishem and now is a card that goes into Arishem decks and nothing else
Yea, i was okay with some kinda Loki nerf but this feels like actual ass.
I absolutely hated non Arishem Loki too. Such an unfun card to play against
This is a loki buff.
that's not a nerf, they killed Loki and unplayable. lol
Good i hate these cards
These decks were just so unfun to play against. Zeroooooo sympathy for enjoyers of these most hated cards muahaha. (Getting all the opponents cards at reduced cost is still huge, stop crying)
Good nerf cause I don’t have Loki 😊
as a dirty Arishem player, I'm happy Loki got nerfed lmaooo. I'm sad for Doc Ock though :c
Terrible changes