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I remember being 13 years old sitting at the dinner table with my family, in Mastic NY, mom was just getting the food off the stove and I could see through my sliding glass back door this massive fireball going up into the sky. It was nothing like Ive ever seen before. We walked outside and it was loud too, sounded like a fighter jet for a few seconds as it was ascending. Will never forget that
It must have been terrifying last moments, as brief as they must have been. But also, it must have been pretty scary for other pilots who witnessed that - even if at the moment they didn't know what they were looking at, they probably had their suspitions
If I remember correctly, when the other pilots started contacting ATC about the explosion, ATC started trying to reach the TWA flight. When TWA wasn't answering, one of the other pilots said "I think that was him," and someone else said "God bless him." It must have been very sobering for everyone.
"Others pointed to a mechanical error, or even Pilot error" You know, I'm all for the 'anything is possible until proven otherwise' style of investigation... But I don't think anyone actually installs big red self destruct buttons on airplanes so I don't really see how 'pilot error' could make an aircraft explode midair...
There is a video I remeber that was shot on the ground from Martha's Vinyard. It's from a patio which appears to be some kind of party happening. It shows a contrail of a missile headed towards the aircraft but picks up after the explosion has already occurred. I know the given explanation was a "short circuit in the center tanks" but it's worth noting that this issue was never found in any other 747 at the time. All 747 models were grounded and checked which makes the explanation more suspect because if it was from a manufacturer issue, there would be other aircraft found with similar issues.
Such incidents are heartbreaking. Can't imagine the last moments of the pilots and the passengers and the students who were in their trip. It left so much grief for their parents and families. Your description is very good!
I remember this vividly. I was working that evening and caught it in the news. The early images were horrifying, burning debris floating on the ocean. I actually flew on that 747 several times between Honolulu and St Louis in the early 1990’s. Very eerie to know I’d sat in that plane where so many would die in such a horrific way. God Bless those poor people. ❤
No-one survived the inciting incident. If you read the report on the accident by the International association of machinists & aerospace workers (who examined the debris recovered) they conclude that the tank explosion was a RESULT of the inciting incident, not the cause of the accident. Cmdr. Donaldson's review of the autopsies of all recovered victims shows that ALL died from broken necks caused by the sudden and violent right/upward displacement of the entire aircraft due to external overpressure. Further, the autopsies and scans of the victims showed that every one had shrapnel injuries from an explosion below and to the left of the aircraft. If the centre tank had simply exploded as the official report indicated, the shrapnel would have radiated from below the passenger cabin. It did not.
@@jeelsvealnerve1163 The information you just gave changes the outcome of the official investigation. The aircraft was hit by something to produce these injuries to the victims and the plane.
Kudos to the divers and rescue people having to get the bodies back to their loved ones and pieces of the aircraft. Must have been an awful experience…
I have, but I don't think overloading a video makes it any more interesting. The relevant facts are there, and that's what counts for me. UA-cam would love even longer videos though...
The cinematics, the editing, the sounds and eveytjing else is just perfect. But the research and info about the incident is even better. Did you upgrade any software or hardware?
Thank you so much! I didn't :) I just recently lowered the graphics settings of microsoft flight sim ever so slightly, it's barely noticeable. But it resulted in much smoother footage (higher frame rate)!
Well done! Especially the concluding summary. More or less obviously, you have worked under editorial standards before-- smooth, nuanced and skilled exposition.
Hey Airspace. A suggestion I have for a few videos is maybe explaining the technic stuff of the Airbus systems since you used to fly the A320 and now on the A330. I'm sure folks would like to see that.
As always, amazingly done. Thank you Airspace! I‘ve been wondering for some time, how does it make you feel as a pilot yourself to read about and to narrate such harrowing stories? Especially those like this one, where the pilots could do nothing to prevent the accident?
Thank you very much! It makes one think... maybe one day, you'll just experience something you can't change or a situation you can't save. That's part of the job... but in the end, it's ver, unlikely.
I remember the crash of TWA 800. It was in the middle of the summer break from school. It also raised concerns as the 1996 Atlanta Summer Olympics were about to begin. I was watching something when the breaking news came on the TV.
I remember this sad story! Immediately after the accident people who saw the firey remains of the aircraft fly erratically through the sky thought it was a missile, but eventually the grim reality came through.
I recall the day that that aircraft was lost. Shortly after it occurred, maybe 90 minutes later, if that) a person on the South Shore of Long Island was interviewed and reported seeing something shoot up from the water toward the aircraft. I suspect that it was shot down.
There was such a disconnect between what people expected and what really happened… this was rife with conspiracy theories. ‘It was hit by a missile’ ‘it was a bomb’, etc. even ruling them out served only to fuel the conspiracy theories. ‘It’s a coverup - one of the parts had a tiny puncture hole left by a missile warhead’ (or that part was damaged in recovery? Dunno) In truth, it was a bomb, but one of accidental making, triggered by bad wiring. It’s more impressive that we’ve only had this happen once.
I seem to recall there being many more cases of badly aged and malfunctioning wiring in 747s of the era, which were only discovered as a result of this disaster (I'm not sure if there was an official AWD issued on this).
There are many conspiracy theories about modern events that are rightly rejected for their flimsiness. If you review the work of the International Machinists and Aerospace workers report on this accident, and that of Cmdr. Bill Donaldson (a former USN officer and FAA investigator) you will find that there is significant evidence that the cause and series of events that lead up to this aircraft loss simply CANNOT be as described by the official reports. There is a tremendous amount of evidence (including photographs) in Cmdr Donaldson's rebuttals and reports that show that the aircraft was severely damaged by an explosion below and to the port side of the aircraft. The main spars were not deformed outwards (as would be the case in a CW fuel tank explosion), they were deformed heavily to the right/starboard side of the aircraft. Further, Cmdr. Donaldson's work on this included data on the autopsies of the passengers who were recovered. ALL died from cervical displacement injuries immediately after the inciting incident. All were shown to have died due to sharp displacement vertically and to the right, consistent with an explosion below and to the left of the aircraft. Those passengers who's remains were scanned showed massive infiltration of shrapnel, all of which entered their bodies from below and to the left of their seating position. If an explosion had occurred within the aircraft, the evidence would have been completely different. Unlike most other conspiracy theories (that tend to be based on conjecture rather than actual information), there were 183 witnesses who saw one or two streaks of light rising up from land/sea to meet the aircraft and a resulting explosion. Of these, 100 saw the streaks "in progress" (IE: the trails being left as the objects accelerated toward the aircraft, rather than just seeing con trails after the fact). 96 of these reported that the streaks came from ground/sea level directly toward the aircraft. These witnesses were located in 7-10 significantly different positions both on Long Island and along the Connecticut shore. Their witness statements as well as many other reports can be found here: twa800.com There are very few "conspiracy theories" that hold water. This is that rarest of cases... in which the official reports simply cannot be true. I do not know who fired at this aircraft nor whether that act was intentional or accidental, but I know it was not an explosion from the Centre wing tank or any other on board cause.
@@jeelsvealnerve1163I recall a news story some decades back, about a panda that escaped from a zoo. Sightings were called in about the panda across the city, causing searchers to race around trying to find and recover the animal. There was after all, only one panda in the city, and witnesses arn’t going to confuse a dog or cow for a panda. After several days, the panda _was_ recovered. Dead. In the zoo - it had never managed to set foot outside, and not one of the dozens of sightings was real. Eye witnesses are some of her worst witnesses out there, and the escaped panda proved that succinctly. This is, unfortunately, not the only real world example of such incompetence from eyewitnesses. It is actually close to average as such outcomes go. Let’s say you’re on a beach, and you year a loud sound from the sky. You look up, and see a jetliner on fire, climbing and clearly struggling. There’s a trail of smoke that rises to meet it’s contrail a distance back. is that trail of smoke from a missile hitting the airliner? Or is it a burning cockpit falling toward the ocean? You won’t have looked until after the sound alerted you to something amiss, and that sound will have taken 15+ seconds to reach you. In that moment, your mind is going to piece together that picture and explain it to you. It may be wrong about the trail of smoke reaching up to the contrail, but you’re going to believe it - as seeing IS believing for many. Listen first to the reports from the people who were likely closer, and were expressly watching for aircraft as part of their job: The pilots in the sky who directly observed the explosion. Did they report a missile? Inspect the other facts: Was there an explosive gas mixture in the fuel tank? Was that mixture heated dangerously? (they tested this, and the people on the test aircraft with thermometer readouts in hand were… concerned). Was there evidence of wiring short affecting wiring that was passed *THROUGH* the fuel tank in question? Possibly over-volting it in a manner likely to start a fire? If I remember correctly, the FDR actually captured this - both prior to the explosion and at the time of. Of course Jeels, I’m sure you’ve already made up your mind. I’m ok with that. My memory is fuzzy and will be biased. Jeels will carry a different bias. If you, the reader, want to make your own conclusions, there are NTSB reports, public articles (Wikipedia/etc), and other resources available to you - do your own research and understand that this topic is, to some, strongly contested.
If I get this right, this could also have happened still on the ground!? Or at least on the runway! That makes it even more freaking. Just imagine, you're sitting on the runway, the pilot pushes the throttle forward and this beast explodes under your a... 😰
I find the findings a little hard to accept. I've read and watched so, sooo many stories of air disasters, and I've never ever heard of "fuel was low so the tanks spontaneously exploded". I'm not normally conspiratorial at all, but this one is extremely far fetched.
As they said, it was an aging aircraft, and there was a sparking wire in the actual fuel tank that ignited the vapours. This was covered in more detail in another documentary.
"Old" wiring and empty fuel tanks have NEVER, in the history of modern aviation on 747s or other jet aircraft, doomed any flight. Just like old fuel level sensors and running your car at below 1/4 tank has never lead to an explosion of the gasoline tank on your car (btw, Jet-A is an order of magnitude less explosive than gasoline - that's one of the reasons it is used). Do you know why? Because fuel senders have something called 'intrinsic safety barriers' built in. If you don't work in avionics or instrumentation that concept will be meaningless to you, but it's what keeps most of us safe every day. The in tank equipment does not have the energy required to create a spark. BTW, the machinists and aerospace engineers that looked at the wiring and tank remnants stated that there was no evidence of arcing or chaffing or any other problem with the fuel tank and sensor units. They also stated that the tank did explode, but this was as a result of an external overpressure (cause unknown), not a fault within the wiring or tank itself. And yet, here we are. With an official report that utterly contradicts the findings of the experts hired to investigate the accident it is reporting on.
@@jeelsvealnerve1163 this 747 was already 20 years old on this day. The fuel pump wiring has an electrical short circuit bevy the wiring was in bad shape from 20years of use. It literally blew the plane out of the sky. Metal conducts electrical circuits & the pumps in the tank were running. All that was needed was a spark.
Thank you for another great insight, you know i am grateful. Normal würd ich fragen wegen der Landshut aber das machst du nicht is okay : ) EDIT Dass das Material das mitgemacht hat
Horrifying stories like this keep me on the ground. I went to E Hampton Long Island a couple days after this event. I didn’t want to go in the ocean. Bodies were washing up on LI beaches.
Everyone missed what caused it's center fuel tank to explode. It's very simple to explain. When the planes air conditioner heated the center tank and when it reached a specific altitude she exploded from dieseling as the center tank reached either a positive or vacuum pressure of 32 psi. No spark is required for a tank to deseil explode. This pressure could have built up from a damaged pressure relief valve vent or a filling cap seal failing.
One of the primary NTSB investigators no longer stands by the findings of this crash. I lost neighbors in this crash. While I won’t speculate as to the true cause, crucial information was excluded or missing from the investigation. Since when does the CIA intervene in aircraft accident investigations? The final conclusion was based on flawed testing and assumptions. It was the best estimate as to what happened. Unfortunately we will never know exactly what brought this aircraft down, and I won’t engage in unproven theories. But I do not believe this was caused by fuel vapors, and neither do most who lived on Long Island and lost loved ones that day.
I am with you on this one. There were many irregularities associated with the accident investigation-really strange stuff. Sorry for your loss! -Respectfully
Thank you, they were regulars at Church and on the soccer/football pitch. I hope one day some government official may tell us the truth. Families deserve that much ❤
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I remember being 13 years old sitting at the dinner table with my family, in Mastic NY, mom was just getting the food off the stove and I could see through my sliding glass back door this massive fireball going up into the sky. It was nothing like Ive ever seen before. We walked outside and it was loud too, sounded like a fighter jet for a few seconds as it was ascending. Will never forget that
That must have been horryfing 😶😶
It must have been terrifying last moments, as brief as they must have been. But also, it must have been pretty scary for other pilots who witnessed that - even if at the moment they didn't know what they were looking at, they probably had their suspitions
Do you mean suspicions?
If I remember correctly, when the other pilots started contacting ATC about the explosion, ATC started trying to reach the TWA flight. When TWA wasn't answering, one of the other pilots said "I think that was him," and someone else said "God bless him." It must have been very sobering for everyone.
@@shatteredshards8549that’s true I had heard the audio
"Others pointed to a mechanical error, or even Pilot error"
You know, I'm all for the 'anything is possible until proven otherwise' style of investigation... But I don't think anyone actually installs big red self destruct buttons on airplanes so I don't really see how 'pilot error' could make an aircraft explode midair...
I thought the same thing 😅
Can the pilots control the fuel flow to the engine? I dunno.
This accident seems to get relatively little attention for what it was, at least from what I’ve seen. It’s one of the most frightening.
There is a video I remeber that was shot on the ground from Martha's Vinyard. It's from a patio which appears to be some kind of party happening. It shows a contrail of a missile headed towards the aircraft but picks up after the explosion has already occurred.
I know the given explanation was a "short circuit in the center tanks" but it's worth noting that this issue was never found in any other 747 at the time. All 747 models were grounded and checked which makes the explanation more suspect because if it was from a manufacturer issue, there would be other aircraft found with similar issues.
Such incidents are heartbreaking. Can't imagine the last moments of the pilots and the passengers and the students who were in their trip. It left so much grief for their parents and families. Your description is very good!
The adrenaline and physical forces were likely so high that they probably didn't realize much of what was going on.
Ahhh the missiles they are so deadly.
I remember this vividly. I was working that evening and caught it in the news. The early images were horrifying, burning debris floating on the ocean. I actually flew on that 747 several times between Honolulu and St Louis in the early 1990’s. Very eerie to know I’d sat in that plane where so many would die in such a horrific way. God Bless those poor people. ❤
The fact that people in the back were still alive is terrifying
No-one survived the inciting incident. If you read the report on the accident by the International association of machinists & aerospace workers (who examined the debris recovered) they conclude that the tank explosion was a RESULT of the inciting incident, not the cause of the accident. Cmdr. Donaldson's review of the autopsies of all recovered victims shows that ALL died from broken necks caused by the sudden and violent right/upward displacement of the entire aircraft due to external overpressure. Further, the autopsies and scans of the victims showed that every one had shrapnel injuries from an explosion below and to the left of the aircraft. If the centre tank had simply exploded as the official report indicated, the shrapnel would have radiated from below the passenger cabin. It did not.
@@jeelsvealnerve1163 The information you just gave changes the outcome of the official investigation. The aircraft was hit by something to produce these injuries to the victims and the plane.
there's literally no evidence that something from outside the aircraft struck it.
Kudos to the divers and rescue people having to get the bodies back to their loved ones and pieces of the aircraft. Must have been an awful experience…
Such a tragedy. There were some notable passengers on board, Including Pam Lychner, remembered with a lovely memorial statue with her daughters.
Have you ever considerd on making your videos longer? They are at such good quality that I was a little surprised that it was already over.
Lg Philipp
Why? The quality is high because it stops after everything is said and explained.
I have, but I don't think overloading a video makes it any more interesting. The relevant facts are there, and that's what counts for me. UA-cam would love even longer videos though...
The cinematics, the editing, the sounds and eveytjing else is just perfect. But the research and info about the incident is even better. Did you upgrade any software or hardware?
Thank you so much! I didn't :) I just recently lowered the graphics settings of microsoft flight sim ever so slightly, it's barely noticeable. But it resulted in much smoother footage (higher frame rate)!
I have no idea, sorry 😄 flightsim dot to or something probably!
Very well presented and articulated. As always !
thanks a lot!
Well done!
Especially the concluding summary.
More or less obviously, you have worked under editorial standards before-- smooth, nuanced and skilled exposition.
I love your videos so much! They're so well made!
Thank you so much! I don't knoe about final dest. though
Hey Airspace. A suggestion I have for a few videos is maybe explaining the technic stuff of the Airbus systems since you used to fly the A320 and now on the A330. I'm sure folks would like to see that.
I did wanna see you cover this it's nice work
Imagine the hellish "movie" out the front of fuselage the Pax watched for so many mins.
As always, amazingly done. Thank you Airspace!
I‘ve been wondering for some time, how does it make you feel as a pilot yourself to read about and to narrate such harrowing stories? Especially those like this one, where the pilots could do nothing to prevent the accident?
Thank you very much! It makes one think... maybe one day, you'll just experience something you can't change or a situation you can't save. That's part of the job... but in the end, it's ver, unlikely.
I remember the crash of TWA 800. It was in the middle of the summer break from school. It also raised concerns as the 1996 Atlanta Summer Olympics were about to begin. I was watching something when the breaking news came on the TV.
I remember this sad story! Immediately after the accident people who saw the firey remains of the aircraft fly erratically through the sky thought it was a missile, but eventually the grim reality came through.
This was the flight and accident when I was a kid that scared me out of air travel until my late 20s
Pilot error? He must have accidentally pressed the explosion button.
I recall the day that that aircraft was lost. Shortly after it occurred, maybe 90 minutes later, if that) a person on the South Shore of Long Island was interviewed and reported seeing something shoot up from the water toward the aircraft. I suspect that it was shot down.
Hey, I think I recommended this one awhile back! Thanks for doing this video!
HOW SAD
What happened to the reconstruction in the hangar? I remember it was kept intact for some time after the investigation.
It was kept intact until 2021 I believe, when the lease of the hangar expired.
There was such a disconnect between what people expected and what really happened… this was rife with conspiracy theories. ‘It was hit by a missile’ ‘it was a bomb’, etc. even ruling them out served only to fuel the conspiracy theories. ‘It’s a coverup - one of the parts had a tiny puncture hole left by a missile warhead’ (or that part was damaged in recovery? Dunno) In truth, it was a bomb, but one of accidental making, triggered by bad wiring. It’s more impressive that we’ve only had this happen once.
I seem to recall there being many more cases of badly aged and malfunctioning wiring in 747s of the era, which were only discovered as a result of this disaster (I'm not sure if there was an official AWD issued on this).
There are many conspiracy theories about modern events that are rightly rejected for their flimsiness. If you review the work of the International Machinists and Aerospace workers report on this accident, and that of Cmdr. Bill Donaldson (a former USN officer and FAA investigator) you will find that there is significant evidence that the cause and series of events that lead up to this aircraft loss simply CANNOT be as described by the official reports.
There is a tremendous amount of evidence (including photographs) in Cmdr Donaldson's rebuttals and reports that show that the aircraft was severely damaged by an explosion below and to the port side of the aircraft. The main spars were not deformed outwards (as would be the case in a CW fuel tank explosion), they were deformed heavily to the right/starboard side of the aircraft. Further, Cmdr. Donaldson's work on this included data on the autopsies of the passengers who were recovered. ALL died from cervical displacement injuries immediately after the inciting incident. All were shown to have died due to sharp displacement vertically and to the right, consistent with an explosion below and to the left of the aircraft. Those passengers who's remains were scanned showed massive infiltration of shrapnel, all of which entered their bodies from below and to the left of their seating position. If an explosion had occurred within the aircraft, the evidence would have been completely different.
Unlike most other conspiracy theories (that tend to be based on conjecture rather than actual information), there were 183 witnesses who saw one or two streaks of light rising up from land/sea to meet the aircraft and a resulting explosion. Of these, 100 saw the streaks "in progress" (IE: the trails being left as the objects accelerated toward the aircraft, rather than just seeing con trails after the fact). 96 of these reported that the streaks came from ground/sea level directly toward the aircraft. These witnesses were located in 7-10 significantly different positions both on Long Island and along the Connecticut shore. Their witness statements as well as many other reports can be found here:
twa800.com
There are very few "conspiracy theories" that hold water. This is that rarest of cases... in which the official reports simply cannot be true. I do not know who fired at this aircraft nor whether that act was intentional or accidental, but I know it was not an explosion from the Centre wing tank or any other on board cause.
@@jeelsvealnerve1163I recall a news story some decades back, about a panda that escaped from a zoo. Sightings were called in about the panda across the city, causing searchers to race around trying to find and recover the animal. There was after all, only one panda in the city, and witnesses arn’t going to confuse a dog or cow for a panda. After several days, the panda _was_ recovered. Dead. In the zoo - it had never managed to set foot outside, and not one of the dozens of sightings was real. Eye witnesses are some of her worst witnesses out there, and the escaped panda proved that succinctly. This is, unfortunately, not the only real world example of such incompetence from eyewitnesses. It is actually close to average as such outcomes go.
Let’s say you’re on a beach, and you year a loud sound from the sky. You look up, and see a jetliner on fire, climbing and clearly struggling. There’s a trail of smoke that rises to meet it’s contrail a distance back. is that trail of smoke from a missile hitting the airliner? Or is it a burning cockpit falling toward the ocean? You won’t have looked until after the sound alerted you to something amiss, and that sound will have taken 15+ seconds to reach you. In that moment, your mind is going to piece together that picture and explain it to you. It may be wrong about the trail of smoke reaching up to the contrail, but you’re going to believe it - as seeing IS believing for many.
Listen first to the reports from the people who were likely closer, and were expressly watching for aircraft as part of their job: The pilots in the sky who directly observed the explosion. Did they report a missile?
Inspect the other facts: Was there an explosive gas mixture in the fuel tank? Was that mixture heated dangerously? (they tested this, and the people on the test aircraft with thermometer readouts in hand were… concerned). Was there evidence of wiring short affecting wiring that was passed *THROUGH* the fuel tank in question? Possibly over-volting it in a manner likely to start a fire? If I remember correctly, the FDR actually captured this - both prior to the explosion and at the time of.
Of course Jeels, I’m sure you’ve already made up your mind. I’m ok with that. My memory is fuzzy and will be biased. Jeels will carry a different bias. If you, the reader, want to make your own conclusions, there are NTSB reports, public articles (Wikipedia/etc), and other resources available to you - do your own research and understand that this topic is, to some, strongly contested.
@Eric P A lot text without and evidence you wrote here.
Navy blew them out the air in a training exercise gone wrong
And it was covered up.
If I get this right, this could also have happened still on the ground!? Or at least on the runway!
That makes it even more freaking. Just imagine, you're sitting on the runway, the pilot pushes the throttle forward and this beast explodes under your a... 😰
I find the findings a little hard to accept. I've read and watched so, sooo many stories of air disasters, and I've never ever heard of "fuel was low so the tanks spontaneously exploded". I'm not normally conspiratorial at all, but this one is extremely far fetched.
As they said, it was an aging aircraft, and there was a sparking wire in the actual fuel tank that ignited the vapours. This was covered in more detail in another documentary.
Great video! Thank you!
This plane waw shot down that’s beyond any shadow of a doubt!
No it wasnt
If it was it would be shattered into pieces instantly
The guardian angels did everything they could think of, trying to prevent the plane from taking off…
showing crazy fuel readings..
@@maltheartistme ?
I would have shit my pants if I were on that flight
Must be the only plane in the world that was delayed in the hot sun and has ac units under the fuel tank.
Over 200 of us saw that missile! But we were ignored in the investigation cover up!
Do more research
Aging wiring and a sloshy fuel tank doomed TWA Flight 800
"Old" wiring and empty fuel tanks have NEVER, in the history of modern aviation on 747s or other jet aircraft, doomed any flight. Just like old fuel level sensors and running your car at below 1/4 tank has never lead to an explosion of the gasoline tank on your car (btw, Jet-A is an order of magnitude less explosive than gasoline - that's one of the reasons it is used). Do you know why? Because fuel senders have something called 'intrinsic safety barriers' built in. If you don't work in avionics or instrumentation that concept will be meaningless to you, but it's what keeps most of us safe every day. The in tank equipment does not have the energy required to create a spark.
BTW, the machinists and aerospace engineers that looked at the wiring and tank remnants stated that there was no evidence of arcing or chaffing or any other problem with the fuel tank and sensor units. They also stated that the tank did explode, but this was as a result of an external overpressure (cause unknown), not a fault within the wiring or tank itself.
And yet, here we are. With an official report that utterly contradicts the findings of the experts hired to investigate the accident it is reporting on.
@@jeelsvealnerve1163 this 747 was already 20 years old on this day. The fuel pump wiring has an electrical short circuit bevy the wiring was in bad shape from 20years of use. It literally blew the plane out of the sky. Metal conducts electrical circuits & the pumps in the tank were running. All that was needed was a spark.
Not an electrical accident--US Navy accidentally shot them down
Thank you for another great insight, you know i am grateful. Normal würd ich fragen wegen der Landshut aber das machst du nicht is okay : )
EDIT Dass das Material das mitgemacht hat
Horrifying stories like this keep me on the ground. I went to E Hampton Long Island a couple days after this event. I didn’t want to go in the ocean. Bodies were washing up on LI beaches.
actual plane crashed: 747-100
showed with the simulator: 747-8i
Wrong 747. It's not a 747-8i
I loving hearing last moment cockpit audio, so cool 😊
The center fuel tank theory is nonsense
Everyone missed what caused it's center fuel tank to explode. It's very simple to explain. When the planes air conditioner heated the center tank and when it reached a specific altitude she exploded from dieseling as the center tank reached either a positive or vacuum pressure of 32 psi. No spark is required for a tank to deseil explode.
This pressure could have built up from a damaged pressure relief valve vent or a filling cap seal failing.
WRONG - NAVY MISSILE RESPONSIBLE - HENCE THE BIG COVERUP THAT FOOLED YOU 😊
อ่านสือดีจร้าสวงฃล
Final Destination
One of the primary NTSB investigators no longer stands by the findings of this crash. I lost neighbors in this crash. While I won’t speculate as to the true cause, crucial information was excluded or missing from the investigation. Since when does the CIA intervene in aircraft accident investigations? The final conclusion was based on flawed testing and assumptions. It was the best estimate as to what happened. Unfortunately we will never know exactly what brought this aircraft down, and I won’t engage in unproven theories. But I do not believe this was caused by fuel vapors, and neither do most who lived on Long Island and lost loved ones that day.
I am with you on this one. There were many irregularities associated with the accident investigation-really strange stuff. Sorry for your loss!
-Respectfully
Thank you, they were regulars at Church and on the soccer/football pitch. I hope one day some government official may tell us the truth. Families deserve that much ❤
The plane was not conducting a bomb exercise in STL, it was loaded with 400 passengers preparing for a flight to Honolulu.
Learnt, not learned, you're not an american.. :P
first? haha
Gee us navy testing ageus blows airliner out of the sky second missile was fired intercept the first