I have a sup board a d omg it's so much fun. I got a seat for it and brought a kayak paddle works OK. But since also kayaking I am definitely buying a sit on top as I feel kayaks sit ins or onto are much more stable. I decided a seat on top as I like to go swimming when I'm out at sea and a sit in I've been told are hard to get back in. So new to padding but my word it's soooooo much fun. A day off and I'm straight down to a beach or launch point. I am proud to say I am an addict and I absolutely love it.
I have all three. Canoe for tripping. Kayak for whitewater. My race SUP for fitness and fun. I can paddle it much faster than the kayak and canoe. Why choose just one!!?
like you i've found that with technique and skill, sometimes a 14'+ SUP can be almost as fast as canoes//kayaks + the added versatility. so actaully i've taken out my SUP more so than any others. How fast are you going on your SUP?
These are the types of comments I'm looking for. I'm considering switching from kayak to SUP but one of my bigger concerns is that there'd be a big drop-off in speed... 🤔
SUPs are geo location dependent. If you live near, lakes, springs or on the gulf .... they're great & preferred to enjoy your surroundings. Kayaks are for a more active water trip. Canoe? Are at summer camp??
ISUP is the most versatile, really need to try one out for a while and get comfy on it. They can hold more than most kayaks and the ability to deflate and tote them is second to none. Something about dangling my feet over it or laying down for a nap on it or standing is just super cool. i don't feel hemmed in and its much more stable than most touring yaks IMO. I'd love to hear a long term review of a decent touring ISUP after camping/portaging with massive load on it.
This comment is super helpful! I have a recreational kayak right now but I'm considering selling it and switching to an ISUP. Storing and transporting a kayak is becoming a pain for a bachelor like me. One main factor I like about my kayak though is the stability and speed, I assume a paddleboard would be slower. But being able to carry more gear and having the option to stand, sit, kneel or lie down just seems so appealing
Started with a kayak, love being alone on the water, love swimming. Tried paddle board for two summers and ready to get my first. Looking forward to day tripping, laying on the water and of course the solitude.
I could add that some of the positives of open canoes are that you have the ability to move your legs and sitting positions more, which you cannot do with kayaks. This is particularly good in long trips, where in a kayak your legs are stuck in the same position. It can also get quit hot and smelly underneath the spray deck. There is nothing worse than cold water dripping down your back. You seem to be quite wet a lot, unless you wear a dry suit and that in itself get hot. I find also the sitting position itself (that is slightly leaning forward) in a kayak uncomfortable. I have never had a go of a SUP but the paddling stroke I see looks very ungainly, and not as ergonomic as the O/C or the kayak strokes. Maybe it is just the ones I've seen
I love my SUPs! One massive advantage for me is that they are inflatable and pack down really small. I can store them easier and transport them easier. I have a SUP I can surf, I use it as a mobile platform to snorkel off, and you can get touring paperboard to carry big loads. I've had multiple people on a larger board and even a dog. They have a really low profile that has gotten me places not even a kayak could reach, let alone a canoe. Don't forget you can sit on them too! Or lay down and drift around. In some ways they are the most versatile of all these water craft, if not the best at any one things. You do need to be fit and a strong swimmer though. You don't wear a PDF with paddleboards, they are your PFD.
All great points, although it should be noted that they are considered a vessel by the coast guard. You do need to wear a PFD with them, unless you're in a designated swimming area or a surf zone. That being said, many people choose an inflatable waist-belt PFD.
@@PaddleTV yep good point, this varies by location. In my country they are not vessels, and you don't need a PDF unless you are going more than 400m from shore. Lesson is, check your local laws and conditions.
I love my paddleboard for the same reason, I have an all round Isup that is nearly a touring board with an up turned nose and moderate rocker. Something like 30 inches wide instead of the 32/33inches one usually sees in the all round cat. I made myself a stadium seat with attached fold out foot rest and attached fishing rod holders when it is laid out on the board but when packed away to storage then it acts as the pack frame for more comfort and holds my camp and cook gear along with fishing gear when hiking, total pack weight is 23.6kg... but great for coastal touring and paddle hiking adventures.
Exacly. Versatile and mobile. I pack my sup on my motorbike along with a single + double blade paddle and an anchor. Theres so much stuff you can do with it.
You are really under selling paddleboards. You can easily attach a kayak seat to a paddleboard and some paddles can convert between a paddleboard and a kayak paddle. Look into irockers blackfin series. I have the xl and it's made for expeditions(485 lbs limit) and can convert into a 2 person kayak.
Pack boat all the way! Picked up a swift Cruiser pack boat and use a kayak paddle on it but also have a sit on top kayak. Warmer than my sit on top kayak in the cold times too.
I guess it depends on your personal interest. I don't mind a spot of SUP with my kids, but not for long. I much prefer the distance covered, speed and fun that can be had with sea kayak adventures though. All paddlesports have their value - starting with a Challenger K1 may then stimulate interest in canoeing or kayak when the bug bites... all encourage fun on the water and an interest in outdoor pursuits
Pack canoes and Combi’s are taking market share from Kayaks at the upper price points. A pack canoe is a one person canoe that is essentially a kayak without the deck. Not as good for rough conditions, but better for everything else. They are designed for a double blade paddle or traditional canoe paddle. Combi’s are midsize canoes for use as solo canoes or tandem, also with either paddle type. There are several good companies that make competitive products, but Swift makes the best UA-cam videos. Watch those to get an idea of what’s possible, then shop for the best boat for you.
Good video, but I think SUPs can be more than just the fun little brother to the other crafts. Not all SUPs are the cheap toy type. High quality touring boards have been used for multi day expeditions. They’re also brilliant for portability and lightness and they’re great fun for rough water because you can try things that might dump you in without worrying about bailing out :-)
I agree... you can do SO much with a SUP. They can be great in surf, and some people do some pretty major expeditions in them. I didn't mean for it to come across as though SUPs weren't versatile. I have friends that absolutely love running whitewater in them as well. They are amazingly versatile... but I would need some convincing to agree that they do all of these things better than kayaks or canoes (although SUPs dominate in the surf). Does that mean they're not great? Not at all. Even though they might not do these things better, they add a totally different dimension to paddling, which is one of the biggest draws to them.
My thumbnail is the Jackson sup-er fishial I loved it and did a few multi day trips over 40 miles and through some class 1 and 2 water. I good paddle board is nice. I will say I only have kayaks now, don’t know which sup is the right one for the future.
I use SUP. Pro: 1. Fitness. You use more of your muscles including your legs when paddling vs kayaks, rafts, and canoes. Most are also sturdier for things like push-ups and I've even seen handstands. 2. Easy to transport. I take multiple out and if you use iSUPs you can make even more room. 3. Versatile. You can turn some into kayaks and you can use for multi day camp trips. You can use for for fitness and you can use for surfing. You can fish off them too. 4. Family. Kids love it. It's simple. It's like a floating dock. 5. Easier to get off and on. 6. Easy to clean since there are no real nooks and crannies. Cons: 1. Requires weight distribution and balance more than kayaks and canoes because you are standing more. 2. Not as sturdy because they are flat bottomed typically. 3. You will not stay dry. Like sit on kayaks, water tends to get on top if you do decide to sit. 4. Carrying can be annoying, especially if you have stuff attached. There are no compartments, so stuff can swing and constantly shift weight.
Each has its benefits. The surprise to me has been the SUP. Many people want to get on the water but have nowhere to store a large boat, or even a folding type. I'm not a fan of inflatable SUPs, but you can take an one on a bus and store it at home in a closet. As a serious flatwater canoeist (ocean expeditions!), I was always quite critical of the people I saw on SUPs, until I bought one (race-type performance hard board). Now, I can load and unload my own boat and paddle it on my own and get a really good workout.
I agree. I really enjoy the SUP for mixing things up, getting a different paddling workout. The V-nose 'race-style' boards are definitely my preferred to.
Hard to argue personal preferences. I've had each craft at one time (kayak, canoe and now, SUP). The "inflatable" SUP is the lightest and most versatile. I too, like others here, have added a seat, but I also glued on extra Scotty mounts and rings. In Ohio, a SUP does not require a vessel license... unless a seat is added. So I got one, go figure. BTW, an inflatable waist PFD is the way to go.
I'm looking forward to testing both those kayaks! Love that there Pakboat is lightweight, but curious what the 'cost' in performance is. I haven't forgotten about skin on frame kayaks. In fact, one of my favourite kayaks (which I gave a 'Best Portable Kayaks of 2021' award, was the TRAK kayak, which is a skin on frame kayak. Here's the full review. ua-cam.com/video/F4M2fu8pD40/v-deo.html The TRAK is more expensive than the Nautiraid and Pakboat. I'm wondering if those kayaks can handle the same rough conditions?
Alright Ken. the answer is simply: kayak. Or maybe canoe... SUP is great too! PaddleTv is the No.1 choice for paddlers! Best wishes paddlers of all the world. Peace 🍀💚
Love your videos, can you do a review on the Thule Hullavator Pro vs the Yakima Showdown. Or another lift assistant kayak carrier. I'm a 5ft tall woman and have a tuff time loading kayaks on my suv. Thanks for considering.
Thanks for asking this Robbin. I am also petite and usually have my hubby to help me but now that I am age 64 and he is 71, and not getting any younger or stronger, an easier carrier may be a good idea. 😁
Inflatable sups give you the option to stand, sit, kneel, lay or my personal favorite sit on my cooler. I even use a kayak paddle. You do get a better workout than a kayak. But be warned old people on kayaks will come by and say “isn’t that a STAND up paddle board” I just tell them that’s what big kayak wants you to think.
Kayak isn't just for people who want to paddle their own boat. I have a two seater kayak and there is plenty of room in the boat to store your gear. They also perform best out of them all. Don't waste your money on some inefficient hobie kayak. They are way too stable and track horribly. A kayak is the proper boat which is usually the intended purpose when buying a water craft.
As someone who's just starting out in the way many do today - with a cheap inflatable kayak from Amazon - I'd love a few other bits of advice. Firstly, how long can I hope my inflatable will last? When it dies, is it worth spending 5 times as much (or more) on a canoe or kayak? I already love being able to take my kayak on my bike trailer and on buses and trains, so that I'm not forced to use a car - am I stuck with inflatables if that's what I wants? And I'm, well, a lot heavier than most, starting out by being a big guy and then adding the weight of too many bad choices on top. Being more active is one of the reasons I bought a kayak. I really value stability but when I tried a sit-in kayak I was so low in the water that waves constantly came in. Any advice for me? Thanks so much for the advice on your channel, as a newbie who doesn't know any paddlers and doesn't live near a club this is invaluable.
Hi Gordon. Congrats on getting started with kayaking! The super cheap inflatables (like the Intex Challenger) can't be expected to last very long. Depends on how much you use them. I think of these kayaks as 'gateway' kayaks - kayaks that let you test whether you like kayaking, without spending much money. If you do decide you like it, then yes... it is definitely worth spending 5 times as much! I would recommend going to a local 'paddling shop' for specific advice, and they might even have some kayaks you can test. As for portable kayaks... you're not stuck with inflatable. There are folding kayaks, like the Oru Kayaks, that perform much better than inflatables, but they're pricier. For heavier folks, the Oru Kayak Haven TT would be best. It can be used as a 1-person or 2-person kayak. Otherwise, there are some great inflatables to choose from, if you don't mind spending the money. The Sea Eagle 385 Fast Track is supposed to perform well, and be good for up to 600lbs. I expect to test that kayak next month. Depending on your weight, sit-inside kayaks might not be the best choice, because they'll ride low as you mentioned. Sit-on-top kayaks often handle much more weight. Hope this helps!
My Placidboatworks Rapidfire is only 22 lbs and makes portages a breeze, it’s a pleasure to paddle. It’s a solo canoe that handles big water like a champ ! Absolutely fantastic for multi day canoe camping trips !
what about outrigger? some folks in west Toronto were in the news doing winter paddles using outriggers... my thing is where am I going, what is the water, and why am I out..... am a kayak guy mostly
My trip down the kayaking way of life really started for a silly reason. I was out for my first time trying magnet fishing and I got it stuck badly. The only way to get it back was by boat, which I did not have. Thankfully a nice fellow came along with his boat and got it unstuck. So, I need something for future issues that may come up. Well, a Canoe was my first thought. But I really wanted to be on my own, so I settled on a kayak. I only got to go out three times last summer, but it was great! Can't wait for the warm weather to return to get out there again. Just wanted to add, kayaking is not overly expensive to get into. Making it a fun way to get outside and have some great times! 😁
Nautiraid or Pakboat have way better Kayaks honestly. Pakayak is too heavy for everyday use and I loved paddling the Nautiraid Narak very much. It handles like a normal stiff Kayak but is very light.
The flip side is that the Pakayak took me 3 minutes to setup on the first try! I'm not going to spoil my review by sharing my thoughts on its peformance. :)
As a life long kayaker I never understood why anyone would want to SUP. Then one day I saw a group of young girls (5) all paddling together. Of course they weren't wearing their PFD's properly or at all and all of them had good bodies they wanted to show off. BUT.... the way they used their SUP's showed why this is the new hip choice of the young. (primarily girls with good bodies) They would break and join their SUP's in a 5 point star with the bows all facing each other. They had bluetooth players receiving the same signal and playing simultaneously. They used the craft to jump on and off while swimming-- a floating party platform that was mobile on the water. I commented to my wife-- "I guess that's why you don't see plus sized chicks on SUP's. (not my exact words)
I appreciate the perspectives! Too bad you don't SUP more, as they're great for: - Compact iSUPs can deflate and roll into a backpack, talk about convenient portaging! - Provide better fitness exercise than other paddlecraft as they work more muscle groups. - Better vantage point to view and take in your surroundings. - More thrills: surfing, whitewater, and downwinding. - Speaking of downwinding, if you want a speedy paddle adventure a downwinder is so much fun! All three are great activities, so enjoy whatever takes you there on the water.
There are many Skin on Frame or Inflatable Kayaks and Canoes, some even lighter than an SUP. Kayaking needs the whole body if done well and they can surf, do whitewater and sea easily.
Ha! Nice Rick. I wish I lived closer to a place where I could take advantage of a surf ski! I tried a carbon whitewater playboat last fall for the first time. WOOOOWWW.
@@PaddleTV A lake or flat-ish river is FANTASTIC for surfski! They've really been getting popular for long distance flatwater races like the 100 mile California River Quest on the Sacramento River. They also dominate the men's & women's solo classes on the Missouri River's MR 340. The trick is to not go too narrow. Something along the lines of an Epic V7 (poly), Epic V8, or V8 Pro is perfect. A V10 will do if you have monster abs. Skis aren't just for chasing ocean bumps anymore!
There’s plenty of debate depending on your circumstances. For my dog and I that go camping a couple times a month on low-wind local lakes, a SUP has been perfect; it’s light and deflates/folds up into a backpack. A kayak would be nice if there was a second person or we had a bunch of gear to drag along but that isn’t the case. I’d still put a canoe in 7th place out of the 3 though lol.
@@PaddleTV yes I am, and nobody is taking the bait. I did try SUP one time. Didn’t have a good time. Could be that I am over a foot taller than my sister and the paddle I used was hers.
I love all three and as you said, it depends on what you want to do, your lifestyle, family situation, etc. and that can change. Hubby and I loved canoe tripping when we were younger and lived in Ontario, 🇨🇦 where there are some wonderful lake routes. Now that we are retired and live on the west coast on Vancouver Island where canoeing isn’t as popular, I took up kayaking and paddle boarding. It’s not my hubby’s thing but I love it. Kayaking in the lovely bays off the ocean and paddle boarding on small, quiet lakes where it is calmer and I can get my nature therapy. My SUP is inflatable and only 22 lbs so I can handle it myself. I agree with you. Pick one or more and go for it.
Hey man, thank you for keeping short & to the point!
I have a sup board a d omg it's so much fun. I got a seat for it and brought a kayak paddle works OK. But since also kayaking I am definitely buying a sit on top as I feel kayaks sit ins or onto are much more stable.
I decided a seat on top as I like to go swimming when I'm out at sea and a sit in I've been told are hard to get back in.
So new to padding but my word it's soooooo much fun.
A day off and I'm straight down to a beach or launch point.
I am proud to say I am an addict and I absolutely love it.
Amazing to hear! Hope you have a great fall of paddling!
Your right , I should buy that pelican mustang that's on sale this weekend only. I should just start kayaking.
:). Yes!
I have all three. Canoe for tripping. Kayak for whitewater. My race SUP for fitness and fun. I can paddle it much faster than the kayak and canoe. Why choose just one!!?
like you i've found that with technique and skill, sometimes a 14'+ SUP can be almost as fast as canoes//kayaks + the added versatility. so actaully i've taken out my SUP more so than any others. How fast are you going on your SUP?
These are the types of comments I'm looking for. I'm considering switching from kayak to SUP but one of my bigger concerns is that there'd be a big drop-off in speed... 🤔
SUPs are geo location dependent. If you live near, lakes, springs or on the gulf .... they're great & preferred to enjoy your surroundings. Kayaks are for a more active water trip. Canoe? Are at summer camp??
ISUP is the most versatile, really need to try one out for a while and get comfy on it. They can hold more than most kayaks and the ability to deflate and tote them is second to none. Something about dangling my feet over it or laying down for a nap on it or standing is just super cool. i don't feel hemmed in and its much more stable than most touring yaks IMO. I'd love to hear a long term review of a decent touring ISUP after camping/portaging with massive load on it.
This comment is super helpful! I have a recreational kayak right now but I'm considering selling it and switching to an ISUP. Storing and transporting a kayak is becoming a pain for a bachelor like me. One main factor I like about my kayak though is the stability and speed, I assume a paddleboard would be slower. But being able to carry more gear and having the option to stand, sit, kneel or lie down just seems so appealing
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Sups are like scooters at the skate park. Annoying
Started with a kayak, love being alone on the water, love swimming. Tried paddle board for two summers and ready to get my first. Looking forward to day tripping, laying on the water and of course the solitude.
Hope you're 2022 paddling season is a great one!
I could add that some of the positives of open canoes are that you have the ability to move your legs and sitting positions more, which you cannot do with kayaks. This is particularly good in long trips, where in a kayak your legs are stuck in the same position. It can also get quit hot and smelly underneath the spray deck. There is nothing worse than cold water dripping down your back. You seem to be quite wet a lot, unless you wear a dry suit and that in itself get hot.
I find also the sitting position itself (that is slightly leaning forward) in a kayak uncomfortable. I have never had a go of a SUP but the paddling stroke I see looks very ungainly, and not as ergonomic as the O/C or the kayak strokes. Maybe it is just the ones I've seen
I love my SUPs! One massive advantage for me is that they are inflatable and pack down really small. I can store them easier and transport them easier. I have a SUP I can surf, I use it as a mobile platform to snorkel off, and you can get touring paperboard to carry big loads. I've had multiple people on a larger board and even a dog. They have a really low profile that has gotten me places not even a kayak could reach, let alone a canoe.
Don't forget you can sit on them too! Or lay down and drift around.
In some ways they are the most versatile of all these water craft, if not the best at any one things. You do need to be fit and a strong swimmer though. You don't wear a PDF with paddleboards, they are your PFD.
I added a kayak seat and paddle. Great for lakes and rivers. Love my inflatable for the same reasons.
All great points, although it should be noted that they are considered a vessel by the coast guard. You do need to wear a PFD with them, unless you're in a designated swimming area or a surf zone. That being said, many people choose an inflatable waist-belt PFD.
@@PaddleTV yep good point, this varies by location. In my country they are not vessels, and you don't need a PDF unless you are going more than 400m from shore. Lesson is, check your local laws and conditions.
I love my paddleboard for the same reason, I have an all round Isup that is nearly a touring board with an up turned nose and moderate rocker. Something like 30 inches wide instead of the 32/33inches one usually sees in the all round cat. I made myself a stadium seat with attached fold out foot rest and attached fishing rod holders when it is laid out on the board but when packed away to storage then it acts as the pack frame for more comfort and holds my camp and cook gear along with fishing gear when hiking, total pack weight is 23.6kg... but great for coastal touring and paddle hiking adventures.
Exacly. Versatile and mobile. I pack my sup on my motorbike along with a single + double blade paddle and an anchor. Theres so much stuff you can do with it.
Paddleboard for me :D getting my race sup soon will be using it for touring too
Best paddlecraft is the one I am in at the time. Or the one speeding by me ha!
You are really under selling paddleboards. You can easily attach a kayak seat to a paddleboard and some paddles can convert between a paddleboard and a kayak paddle. Look into irockers blackfin series. I have the xl and it's made for expeditions(485 lbs limit) and can convert into a 2 person kayak.
Pack boat all the way! Picked up a swift Cruiser pack boat and use a kayak paddle on it but also have a sit on top kayak. Warmer than my sit on top kayak in the cold times too.
Good point! I didn't mention pack boats! Great compromise between kayak and canoe.
I guess it depends on your personal interest. I don't mind a spot of SUP with my kids, but not for long. I much prefer the distance covered, speed and fun that can be had with sea kayak adventures though. All paddlesports have their value - starting with a Challenger K1 may then stimulate interest in canoeing or kayak when the bug bites... all encourage fun on the water and an interest in outdoor pursuits
Why have rowboats gone away? A 8-12' aluminum dinghy doesnt weigh much and can go pretty fast
I think the best fitness answer is PRONE paddleboard.
Pack canoes and Combi’s are taking market share from Kayaks at the upper price points. A pack canoe is a one person canoe that is essentially a kayak without the deck. Not as good for rough conditions, but better for everything else. They are designed for a double blade paddle or traditional canoe paddle. Combi’s are midsize canoes for use as solo canoes or tandem, also with either paddle type. There are several good companies that make competitive products, but Swift makes the best UA-cam videos. Watch those to get an idea of what’s possible, then shop for the best boat for you.
good to know.....just checked out Swift's site for more info...I had bad experience trying to solo a canoe and have been a kayak guy for years now
Great point... A Swift Packboat was the first gear review I did 2 years ago. Loved that boat! ua-cam.com/video/iQBFDyOJ5Ks/v-deo.html
I just stand up in my canoe.... and pole. Its very much like a sup.
You can play freestyle as well as sup surfing with sup.
I noticed 2 shots of AquaMarina Air-k tandem, and I'm pretty sure there was Ken sitting in it, But I don't remember seeing a full video review!
A review of the Tomahawk Air-K would be great indeed!
Ha! It's coming... :)
Good video, but I think SUPs can be more than just the fun little brother to the other crafts. Not all SUPs are the cheap toy type. High quality touring boards have been used for multi day expeditions. They’re also brilliant for portability and lightness and they’re great fun for rough water because you can try things that might dump you in without worrying about bailing out :-)
I agree... you can do SO much with a SUP. They can be great in surf, and some people do some pretty major expeditions in them. I didn't mean for it to come across as though SUPs weren't versatile. I have friends that absolutely love running whitewater in them as well. They are amazingly versatile... but I would need some convincing to agree that they do all of these things better than kayaks or canoes (although SUPs dominate in the surf). Does that mean they're not great? Not at all. Even though they might not do these things better, they add a totally different dimension to paddling, which is one of the biggest draws to them.
My thumbnail is the Jackson sup-er fishial I loved it and did a few multi day trips over 40 miles and through some class 1 and 2 water. I good paddle board is nice. I will say I only have kayaks now, don’t know which sup is the right one for the future.
SUP depends greatly on light wind. In my opinion kayak is the sweet spot.
Nope. Heavy winds and big waves are the best conditions for SUPing.
Great video and great job by the host!
Isn't the right answer all of them?
Pretty much! :)
I use SUP.
Pro:
1. Fitness. You use more of your muscles including your legs when paddling vs kayaks, rafts, and canoes. Most are also sturdier for things like push-ups and I've even seen handstands.
2. Easy to transport. I take multiple out and if you use iSUPs you can make even more room.
3. Versatile. You can turn some into kayaks and you can use for multi day camp trips. You can use for for fitness and you can use for surfing. You can fish off them too.
4. Family. Kids love it. It's simple. It's like a floating dock.
5. Easier to get off and on.
6. Easy to clean since there are no real nooks and crannies.
Cons:
1. Requires weight distribution and balance more than kayaks and canoes because you are standing more.
2. Not as sturdy because they are flat bottomed typically.
3. You will not stay dry. Like sit on kayaks, water tends to get on top if you do decide to sit.
4. Carrying can be annoying, especially if you have stuff attached. There are no compartments, so stuff can swing and constantly shift weight.
Each has its benefits. The surprise to me has been the SUP. Many people want to get on the water but have nowhere to store a large boat, or even a folding type. I'm not a fan of inflatable SUPs, but you can take an one on a bus and store it at home in a closet. As a serious flatwater canoeist (ocean expeditions!), I was always quite critical of the people I saw on SUPs, until I bought one (race-type performance hard board). Now, I can load and unload my own boat and paddle it on my own and get a really good workout.
I agree. I really enjoy the SUP for mixing things up, getting a different paddling workout. The V-nose 'race-style' boards are definitely my preferred to.
Hard to argue personal preferences. I've had each craft at one time (kayak, canoe and now, SUP). The "inflatable" SUP is the lightest and most versatile. I too, like others here, have added a seat, but I also glued on extra Scotty mounts and rings. In Ohio, a SUP does not require a vessel license... unless a seat is added. So I got one, go figure. BTW, an inflatable waist PFD is the way to go.
Nautiraid and Pakboat make great packable Skin-on-Frames Kayaks. Sad you just forget about Skin on Frames in most packable Kayak reviews.
I'm looking forward to testing both those kayaks! Love that there Pakboat is lightweight, but curious what the 'cost' in performance is. I haven't forgotten about skin on frame kayaks. In fact, one of my favourite kayaks (which I gave a 'Best Portable Kayaks of 2021' award, was the TRAK kayak, which is a skin on frame kayak. Here's the full review. ua-cam.com/video/F4M2fu8pD40/v-deo.html The TRAK is more expensive than the Nautiraid and Pakboat. I'm wondering if those kayaks can handle the same rough conditions?
Alright Ken. the answer is simply: kayak.
Or maybe canoe...
SUP is great too!
PaddleTv is the No.1 choice for paddlers!
Best wishes paddlers of all the world.
Peace 🍀💚
Ha! You're as indecisive as I am! Thanks though.
Whatever cranks your turner...
But for Me, after years of other things,
KAYAK hands down....
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SUP easy to transport,
Love your videos, can you do a review on the Thule Hullavator Pro vs the Yakima Showdown. Or another lift assistant kayak carrier. I'm a 5ft tall woman and have a tuff time loading kayaks on my suv.
Thanks for considering.
I would love to do that one! Great idea.
Thanks for asking this Robbin. I am also petite and usually have my hubby to help me but now that I am age 64 and he is 71, and not getting any younger or stronger, an easier carrier may be a good idea. 😁
Inflatable sups give you the option to stand, sit, kneel, lay or my personal favorite sit on my cooler. I even use a kayak paddle. You do get a better workout than a kayak. But be warned old people on kayaks will come by and say “isn’t that a STAND up paddle board” I just tell them that’s what big kayak wants you to think.
Kayak isn't just for people who want to paddle their own boat. I have a two seater kayak and there is plenty of room in the boat to store your gear. They also perform best out of them all. Don't waste your money on some inefficient hobie kayak. They are way too stable and track horribly. A kayak is the proper boat which is usually the intended purpose when buying a water craft.
Please review the Old Town Next (best of both worlds?)
Kayak, very versatile, light and small, and their is the inflatable kayaks!
As someone who's just starting out in the way many do today - with a cheap inflatable kayak from Amazon - I'd love a few other bits of advice.
Firstly, how long can I hope my inflatable will last? When it dies, is it worth spending 5 times as much (or more) on a canoe or kayak?
I already love being able to take my kayak on my bike trailer and on buses and trains, so that I'm not forced to use a car - am I stuck with inflatables if that's what I wants?
And I'm, well, a lot heavier than most, starting out by being a big guy and then adding the weight of too many bad choices on top. Being more active is one of the reasons I bought a kayak. I really value stability but when I tried a sit-in kayak I was so low in the water that waves constantly came in. Any advice for me?
Thanks so much for the advice on your channel, as a newbie who doesn't know any paddlers and doesn't live near a club this is invaluable.
Hi Gordon. Congrats on getting started with kayaking! The super cheap inflatables (like the Intex Challenger) can't be expected to last very long. Depends on how much you use them. I think of these kayaks as 'gateway' kayaks - kayaks that let you test whether you like kayaking, without spending much money. If you do decide you like it, then yes... it is definitely worth spending 5 times as much! I would recommend going to a local 'paddling shop' for specific advice, and they might even have some kayaks you can test. As for portable kayaks... you're not stuck with inflatable. There are folding kayaks, like the Oru Kayaks, that perform much better than inflatables, but they're pricier. For heavier folks, the Oru Kayak Haven TT would be best. It can be used as a 1-person or 2-person kayak. Otherwise, there are some great inflatables to choose from, if you don't mind spending the money. The Sea Eagle 385 Fast Track is supposed to perform well, and be good for up to 600lbs. I expect to test that kayak next month. Depending on your weight, sit-inside kayaks might not be the best choice, because they'll ride low as you mentioned. Sit-on-top kayaks often handle much more weight. Hope this helps!
My Placidboatworks Rapidfire is only 22 lbs and makes portages a breeze, it’s a pleasure to paddle. It’s a solo canoe that handles big water like a champ ! Absolutely fantastic for multi day canoe camping trips !
what about outrigger? some folks in west Toronto were in the news doing winter paddles using outriggers... my thing is where am I going, what is the water, and why am I out..... am a kayak guy mostly
Good point about the outrigger. I've never actually tried one!
My trip down the kayaking way of life really started for a silly reason. I was out for my first time trying magnet fishing and I got it stuck badly. The only way to get it back was by boat, which I did not have. Thankfully a nice fellow came along with his boat and got it unstuck. So, I need something for future issues that may come up. Well, a Canoe was my first thought. But I really wanted to be on my own, so I settled on a kayak. I only got to go out three times last summer, but it was great! Can't wait for the warm weather to return to get out there again. Just wanted to add, kayaking is not overly expensive to get into. Making it a fun way to get outside and have some great times! 😁
Couldn't agree more! Glad you discovered it! Have a great paddling and fishing season this year.
Very helpful!!!
How about a pack-boat like the ones made by Swift?
Yup! It's another option for sure. I reviewed one of their jackboots 2 years ago and loved it: ua-cam.com/video/iQBFDyOJ5Ks/v-deo.html
Thank you Nice video
Kayak
How about an updated "Rolling a Sea/Touring Kayak" video?
Yup... I'm way overdue on that!
I don't portage...too much work and risk of hurting myself
My wife’s pack canoe is 13 pounds. We portage even on afternoon outings.
That's lighter than my Kevlar kayak..still am not into portaging
Wheres the k1 😪
Are you going to review the Pakayak?
Nautiraid or Pakboat have way better Kayaks honestly. Pakayak is too heavy for everyday use and I loved paddling the Nautiraid Narak very much. It handles like a normal stiff Kayak but is very light.
I sure am! In fact... I did! Stay tuned for that video...
The flip side is that the Pakayak took me 3 minutes to setup on the first try! I'm not going to spoil my review by sharing my thoughts on its peformance. :)
@@PaddleTV Impatient to see your review! :)
Canoe all day long
As a life long kayaker I never understood why anyone would want to SUP. Then one day I saw a group of young girls (5) all paddling together. Of course they weren't wearing their PFD's properly or at all and all of them had good bodies they wanted to show off. BUT.... the way they used their SUP's showed why this is the new hip choice of the young. (primarily girls with good bodies)
They would break and join their SUP's in a 5 point star with the bows all facing each other. They had bluetooth players receiving the same signal and playing simultaneously. They used the craft to jump on and off while swimming-- a floating party platform that was mobile on the water.
I commented to my wife-- "I guess that's why you don't see plus sized chicks on SUP's. (not my exact words)
I appreciate the perspectives! Too bad you don't SUP more, as they're great for:
- Compact iSUPs can deflate and roll into a backpack, talk about convenient portaging!
- Provide better fitness exercise than other paddlecraft as they work more muscle groups.
- Better vantage point to view and take in your surroundings.
- More thrills: surfing, whitewater, and downwinding.
- Speaking of downwinding, if you want a speedy paddle adventure a downwinder is so much fun!
All three are great activities, so enjoy whatever takes you there on the water.
There are many Skin on Frame or Inflatable Kayaks and Canoes, some even lighter than an SUP. Kayaking needs the whole body if done well and they can surf, do whitewater and sea easily.
Master Ken...
The answer is:
Surfski for everything except whitewater!
Ha! Nice Rick. I wish I lived closer to a place where I could take advantage of a surf ski! I tried a carbon whitewater playboat last fall for the first time. WOOOOWWW.
@@PaddleTV
A lake or flat-ish river is FANTASTIC for surfski! They've really been getting popular for long distance flatwater races like the 100 mile California River Quest on the Sacramento River. They also dominate the men's & women's solo classes on the Missouri River's MR 340.
The trick is to not go too narrow.
Something along the lines of an Epic V7 (poly), Epic V8, or V8 Pro is perfect. A V10 will do if you have monster abs.
Skis aren't just for chasing ocean bumps anymore!
This guy is great.
Like there's even a debate.
KAYAK.
There’s plenty of debate depending on your circumstances. For my dog and I that go camping a couple times a month on low-wind local lakes, a SUP has been perfect; it’s light and deflates/folds up into a backpack. A kayak would be nice if there was a second person or we had a bunch of gear to drag along but that isn’t the case. I’d still put a canoe in 7th place out of the 3 though lol.
Kayak. Twice the blades, twice the fun.
Oh boy! You're going to start something! :)
@@PaddleTV yes I am, and nobody is taking the bait. I did try SUP one time. Didn’t have a good time. Could be that I am over a foot taller than my sister and the paddle I used was hers.
I love all three and as you said, it depends on what you want to do, your lifestyle, family situation, etc. and that can change.
Hubby and I loved canoe tripping when we were younger and lived in Ontario, 🇨🇦 where there are some wonderful lake routes. Now that we are retired and live on the west coast on Vancouver Island where canoeing isn’t as popular, I took up kayaking and paddle boarding. It’s not my hubby’s thing but I love it. Kayaking in the lovely bays off the ocean and paddle boarding on small, quiet lakes where it is calmer and I can get my nature therapy. My SUP is inflatable and only 22 lbs so I can handle it myself.
I agree with you. Pick one or more and go for it.
Kayaks are the best. I tried them all. I now have 4 Wilderness and Perception kayaks.
Stand up paddle board makes a wonderful floating bar top and that’s about it.
Sit on top kayak all day.