1. Professor Pause 2. The Submission Sensei 3. Tap-Out Tutor 4. The Hold-Up Hero 5. Master Mechanics 6. The Reset Guru 7. The Instruction Interrupter 8. Coach Compromise 9. The Teaching Tapper 10. The Lesson Legend
Telling your opponent to stop, wait etc is by definition a verbal tap, sooner people realize that the better. If you are really better you can escape and then tell them what was wrong.
That's the major difference. I will stop the roll if I escape and get dominant position, just to go back to their sub and clean it up and make sure I can't escape. You wany to help build people's confidence, not tear it apart the second your ego gets challenged
@@Gottiline_Ace This. I was coming here to post this. Unless they are doing something that is unsafe and risking a major injury, don't "tutorial" them about how they are doing something wrong- SHOW them that they are doing something wrong by easily escaping/reversing/sweeping or whatever, THEN you can tutorial them on how to make it better.
I'll only coach them through a sub once i escape it, and we reset or at the end of the roll. If a lower belt catches me. Fuck it, they got me. Good job.
Hi Chewy. Thank you for being so professional and classy with my students in Seveirville this weekend. My guys at memento said your tournament was the best run event they have attended. Big Evan could not stop talking about what a great experience he had.
I call them a Shrodinger's Teacher; they don't know if they will teach you until they observe themsleves "losing" to someone they don't want to tap to.
Or they can feel what’s not clicking. Clearly, you got them into the bad position… What’s wrong with dialing in the nuances of the move? If your partner just stops you and doesn’t explain what would make it better…. than THAT is cheating. I prefer my training partners to explain when my choke isn’t tight enough or where my grip is slipping too much. Etc
@@TheMightyZim If you are really better than the person you can tell them that without stopping them, or escape and then tell them what to fix. You are just trying to save your inflated ego if you stop a person who is finishing you. And in my opinion that is a verbal tap.
I'm sure a lot of us do that. He's talking about that rare (usually smug, in my experience) guy that doesn't want to get shown up. So he essentially taps by stopping the roll to "explain" why what you're beating him with is somehow wrong.@TheMightyZim
@@uros2321 how is my ego inflated if I acknowledge I lost? If if I can give them a little guidance, I’ll let them know “if you tweak this…I wouldn’t have even been able to last as long as I did.”
I wonder what some of them would do if you politely listened to their "instruction", but then said 'Ok cool thanks, now let's get right back to that same position I had you in so I can apply your info. "
@cahtahsheik3671 he should have called the guy out for it before you had to handle it yourself. The coaches are there to coach, we are there to learn and get better.
We have a guy like this at the gym, first time he did it to me I just finished the sub and then said, I’m sorry were you saying something. Every roll since then is like a comp match so be aware of the possible repercussions if you take this approach 😂
@ we’ve trained together for years. This happened when I was a purple and he was a brown. I’ve trained more and caught up to him. He doesn’t like to tap to lower belts. Other than that he’s a nice guy 🤙🏼
We had a purple belt in our gym that would stop a roll any time he was in a compromised position. I had gone to mount on him and he stops me and says "I'm 3 moves from a leg lock. Let's reset." And, it wasn't just me. He did it to everyone. I was talking to a guy from another gym and he started telling me about a "new guy to his gym." I had to stop him mid story and ask "3 moves from a leg lock?" Same dude...
that’s one of the most annoying things that happen in the dojo. i was a sensei and would stop people in the middle of their roll i heard this happening. it was seriously annoying, especially when they were giving wrong advice. sometimes i’d stop the whole class and reiterate “this is not the time for you to teach the class that’s what i’m here for, please just roll”
I'm a purple belt and there is a couple guys guys at my gym that do the same thing, brown and black. I just don't roll with them. Losing is a part of getting better and ego will only hold you back
then it shouldnt be a problem to let go of submission. If the submission is sure, then only reason to follow through and get annoyed by lecture/guidance is the ego. If chemistry is not there and priorities are different one can always find another partner.
This makes my glad I train where I do. All of my higher belts will help tune my submissions, but they’ll do it either if I can’t lock it in or after the roll is over.
Yeah the advice at the end is great. If there’s no time limit, I don’t mind a pause to comment the position as long as we can continue. If it’s a timer, talking afterwards is the best way. Even as a coach, I always let them play it out and see where they go, then comment after.
I'm definitely one of the, "hold on a second" guys but usually in the opposite situation. I usually do it when I have a sub or "dominant" position that I see an issue with something Im trying or mistake I made and want to see if it can be countered/exploited. Probably annoying but has helped me and my rolling partners figure out new things.
@SweetSpotGuitar depends on the partner. Usually the first few times they think I'm trying to trick them or something but a couple partners it's turned into a pretty good back and forth discussing ways to improve
I’ve had this with one guy a lot. Whenever I have success suddenly there’s something to show me but if he’s winning we’re still going. The other one I have with one guy he’s a bit older in his early 40’s and has had quite a few injuries. He always hits me with the “hey I know you’re a young athletic guy I don’t want to get hurt so let’s just flow roll” and I respect that I’m always down for light rolling if someone wants to so I agree. Then as soon as we start he’s in full comp mode. Diving on submission being super aggressive with every pass and defense and I’m like “damn I thought we were flow rolling”
Am I the only one who loves the person who stops people and coaches them through the submission. We have a guy like this at our school. I find it hilarious. 😂😂
Ohhhhh the ole going "coach mode" 😅 typically for me it's always been an upper belt that does this, I never had a lower rank do this to me ... Definitely happened Alot with blue belts when I was a white belt ... A few purple belts did this but not nearly as many ... I'm a purple belt currently and haven't had a brown or black belt ever do this. Going "Coach mode"
luckily, I've only had after rolls people explain some situations that have come up in rolls. mainly "you would've had X sub, pass, etc if you did ABC." then we went over a position/situation after the roll and kinda walked me through what may have been a possible path to a finish or finish something I was attempting.
Generally the only place to do something like this js rolling with a less experienced practicioner and he is giving his life to a submission that isn't working at all. And I would still wait until they're tired before start coaching.
Ive waited till the end of rolls and them helped someone out if they are struggling finishing a sub or another technique, but actually stopping the roll to do it would never cross my mind unless I thought they were going to do something in a way that might injure me.
Happened all the time with this one guy years ago. He'd either 'tap' once, so you'd stop and he'd continue or going into 'teaching mode' as I called it. He did it with everyone. Soon as he was uncomfortable you just knew it.
This happens a lot, and in my experience, it happens to lower belts from the higher belts primarily blur and purple. It seems to be an embarrassment issue for the upper belt and they don't want to actually have to accept being submitted by a lower belt. This isn't always the case, but you do seem to see it a lot at the beginning of blue and purple belt. The lower belt student has a legitimate position and and could finish the submission, but the upper belt has his/her ego bruised at the fact that a lower belt may submit them. I am sure that this isn't always the case, but it does seem to be the case often. There is no shame in getting summitted regardless of you or your opponents skill level. The other thing you'll see is the immediate excuses as soon as the sub is in. "I was working on X, Y, or Z".
This kind of things runs the gamut. If they're just doing it to avoid a pass/bad position/sub chalk it up and a W and move on. You'll forget about it in a day or so. If you don't, well, that dwelling is a you problem. But I would generally advise that if they're a higher belt you give it a second to see what they say. When I was a white belt I had a large blue belt stop things. He saved me from getting my fingers twisted up in his gi and probably broken because my grip was a variation on stupid. Same guy did it again later when I took a shitty mount-ish position and he pointed out that I was walking into a sweep that left me in a great position to get my knee wrecked.
There's a particular lower belt (much larger) at my gym that does this. I get it with upper belts that feel threatened but it's particularly annoying with lower belts. I will say though, sometimes he's given his advice.
There is a very similar situation to this but not the same, when you're rolling with an utter menace who is trying a technique but clearly doing it completely wrong. I was going easy on a guy and let him get me into a pressure pass, but he just kept pushing me into the mat and refused to turn his head to let my legs slide by. I said "Just turn your head!" And he looked confused and just gave up. I have never seen a person not understand a pressure pass isn't just holding someone directly in front of them and expecting they will evaporate, one of us has to move. The same guy managed to get a kind of sumi gaeshi throw on me once because I had stopped rolling as we were right next to some other guys. I was about to reset and he just grabbed me and threw me on them. He looked like he had won the olympics, I asked him "Didn't you realise there were people behind you?" I do know the coaches though, I had one guy out a terribly loose ezekial on me and then tell me to just tap next time. I was so confused, "Tap to a technique that isn't on?' Another guy at the gym said as a joke he would let the guy tap him with an utter garbage submission then ask him with awe in his face "How did you do that? Could you show me?" Get a lecture full of inaccuracies, then beat the shit out of him the next round and say "Thanks coach."
I've heard on this very channel, numerous times, how some more skilled guys will allow you to "work" and not to let that go to your head, yet here we are letting that go to your head. Also, not everyone wants to be explosive. Some people actually want to learn jiu-jitsu and flow. Explosiveness is for competition and not everyone is here for that. (I've also heard that on this very channel). The second I hear, "I used to wrestle a little bit" you know the guy thinks he's training for the Olympics.
You may have heard lots of things on this channel. But as things go. Context matters. It's one thing to let someone work. It's another thing to lecture when you're not letting someone work. It's a difference and we know it. And I don't know what "some people actually want to learn" means. People who are competitive are learning. Learning in BJJ isn't some sort of academic exercise that happens. We learn through our physical exertion just as much as our intellectual understanding of a technique or concept.
I don't understand the stop in the action part when, if you can tell they don't have it, you can just coach them through it while they are doing it. Usually, I wait until they fail twice and then put myself in the same situation again and when they go for again, say "this time, when you do that, try this..." Then again, I don't really like chatting during roll times. I want to get max rolls in. Even when they have questions, they have xx number of seconds before the next roll starts and they need to speak quickly.
We have a fellow here that does this all the time. At one point he claimed that he coached up R.T. (IYKYK) our association head when he rolled with him at a seminar. We joke that he performs seances 👻 to coach up Helio Gracie on his technique.
I consider that stalling... And I would watch for that when my students rolled. And me and the other instructors would yell, "Less grab assing and more rolling." We threw strikes at my gym as well. So not only are you defending against a submission, but punches as well. Made it harder to talk.
As a white belt, I do what you did. I choose someone else to roll with. That said, the culture in my gum is really good and it isn't usually a problem.
Never happened to me, but we had a guy who would do it to my training partners. We were the same rank, and me and my training partners, who were lower ranked than him, always got the better of him.
I cant speak to every gym or even most gyms, but I can say that I have been to multiple gyms where declining a roll was highly frowned upon and usually resulted in a higher belt putting a "lesson" onto you for being difficult. I know of one specific where declining to roll with someone (and GOD HELP YOU if you that person is a friend of the Instructor or a long timer) would get you a painful round with the black belt. I have personal knowledge on this one.
Hi, I got a question for you. I really want to compeat in bjj competitions, but I am very scared of breaking my bones or be injured in any way. Do you have any advice for me on how to get through with my fear so I can compeat?
Yes I know a guy like that, I started going super hard with him so he doesn't get time to start giving his lecture, so he got super mad told me I was too strong, brute and will end up hurting someone. What a clown, he's like 30 lb heavier than me, and the guy is a 2 stripe white belt (like me), how can a white belt feel able to give a lecture to anyone?.
Serious question though what if you’re a higher belt and beating the crap out of the guy and then you see them make a mistake tap them 1-2 times and then proceed to help them and coach them through what they could’ve done better with the intention of helping them be better? Is that a dick move? Or is it a dick live if you do it while losing only?
It’s an ego thing. Only because you’re higher rank doesn’t mean you can’t get tapped out by a lower rank. I feel as long as you stop caring about your rank & focus on you’ll training, you’ll grow .
Is this the same category as if I pity tap a poor submission (out of simple boredom, but they’re trying their best) and THEN coach someone through it AFTER the roll?
just say, hey when rolling im working cardio n secondary follow up attacks n case of failure so i dont like stopping...after the roll show me - its how i dealt with higher belts a times coming up n i how show lower belts so they cant assume ''i could of tapped you, does what your gonna show me have merit? ' btw its only if they actually do something really wrong....
You've heard the "Brazilian Tap". That's just a "Brazilian Lecture". Same thing. Ego and pride. Declining to talk during your roll is 100% acceptable as long as the subject isn't safety.
I will tap first then we can talk. we can get back into the position and ask the professor how he can sink it in better and what the hell did I do to get caught.
I don’t really get to bothered by this. Honestly when they say lets get it better i ask to work from there and i play with how to make it tighter and finish it. Especially during the different types of escapes. For me its training idc win or lose if they do and wanna “coach me through it” I’ll take it as a learning experience.
@@larryblarry yeah but I think it's some weird AI edit to try to make it look smooth but if you pause right when it happens you get some really janky frames
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1. Professor Pause
2. The Submission Sensei
3. Tap-Out Tutor
4. The Hold-Up Hero
5. Master Mechanics
6. The Reset Guru
7. The Instruction Interrupter
8. Coach Compromise
9. The Teaching Tapper
10. The Lesson Legend
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Bro.. these so clever & good lmaooo
Professor Pause is S-teir
Tap out tutor is good
The AI user
I refer to it as a tactical teaching moment
😂😂😂 nice
Tactical teaching😅😅
Hahaha! That’s fantastic!
Tactical teacher is spot on
That's a great "snappy name or title" lmao.. A Tactical Teacher
That'll work Chewy
I always call these guys losing lecturers.
The guy making that clicking noise sounds like a real piece of work
I would have laughed hysterically man 😂😂. I hope someone does that to me someday 😂
In Brazil we call him cuzão or otário
@@josephbreza-grappling9459weird flex
It was Renato Laranja
Telling your opponent to stop, wait etc is by definition a verbal tap, sooner people realize that the better. If you are really better you can escape and then tell them what was wrong.
That's the major difference. I will stop the roll if I escape and get dominant position, just to go back to their sub and clean it up and make sure I can't escape. You wany to help build people's confidence, not tear it apart the second your ego gets challenged
@@Gottiline_Ace This. I was coming here to post this. Unless they are doing something that is unsafe and risking a major injury, don't "tutorial" them about how they are doing something wrong- SHOW them that they are doing something wrong by easily escaping/reversing/sweeping or whatever, THEN you can tutorial them on how to make it better.
i honestly love how most of the advice here bottles down to "talk to them". Very simple, very effective
There’s a right way to do this.
First escape from the submission.
Then stop and go back to the submission and tell them how to finish the submission
No please dont
I'll only coach them through a sub once i escape it, and we reset or at the end of the roll. If a lower belt catches me. Fuck it, they got me. Good job.
Yes, I wait till after the roll or reset if I think I have something of value to teach them.
Sometimes I'll talk the really new guys through stuff. But then I also actually let them get it and tap to it.
the "just a second" guy
Hi Chewy. Thank you for being so professional and classy with my students in Seveirville this weekend. My guys at memento said your tournament was the best run event they have attended. Big Evan could not stop talking about what a great experience he had.
Glad to hear it! happy they had a good time.
@ I hope to visit your academy sometime. Best regards
I call them a Shrodinger's Teacher; they don't know if they will teach you until they observe themsleves "losing" to someone they don't want to tap to.
Or they can feel what’s not clicking.
Clearly, you got them into the bad position… What’s wrong with dialing in the nuances of the move?
If your partner just stops you and doesn’t explain what would make it better…. than THAT is cheating.
I prefer my training partners to explain when my choke isn’t tight enough or where my grip is slipping too much. Etc
@@TheMightyZim If you are really better than the person you can tell them that without stopping them, or escape and then tell them what to fix. You are just trying to save your inflated ego if you stop a person who is finishing you. And in my opinion that is a verbal tap.
I'm sure a lot of us do that. He's talking about that rare (usually smug, in my experience) guy that doesn't want to get shown up. So he essentially taps by stopping the roll to "explain" why what you're beating him with is somehow wrong.@TheMightyZim
@@uros2321 how is my ego inflated if I acknowledge I lost?
If if I can give them a little guidance, I’ll let them know “if you tweak this…I wouldn’t have even been able to last as long as I did.”
Brilliant!
I wonder what some of them would do if you politely listened to their "instruction", but then said 'Ok cool thanks, now let's get right back to that same position I had you in so I can apply your info. "
Finish the sub when they tell you to pause. They won’t do it anymore.
did this one time and coach chewed us both out....
@ for what? If you didn’t crank the submission then he would have been able to tap the same way as if he wasn’t playing his “coaching” game.
@@lastactionhero7541 coach said him being a shit head was a verbal surrender and me ignoring it was just as shit head behaviour
@@cahtahsheik3671 if you’re coach knew it was happening and didn’t like, he should have addressed it before you did.
@cahtahsheik3671 he should have called the guy out for it before you had to handle it yourself. The coaches are there to coach, we are there to learn and get better.
We have a guy like this at the gym, first time he did it to me I just finished the sub and then said, I’m sorry were you saying something. Every roll since then is like a comp match so be aware of the possible repercussions if you take this approach 😂
And he catches you back? Maybe he didn't realise how good you were and wasn't trying hard now he brings out his a game.
@ we’ve trained together for years. This happened when I was a purple and he was a brown. I’ve trained more and caught up to him. He doesn’t like to tap to lower belts. Other than that he’s a nice guy 🤙🏼
We had a purple belt in our gym that would stop a roll any time he was in a compromised position. I had gone to mount on him and he stops me and says "I'm 3 moves from a leg lock. Let's reset." And, it wasn't just me. He did it to everyone. I was talking to a guy from another gym and he started telling me about a "new guy to his gym." I had to stop him mid story and ask "3 moves from a leg lock?" Same dude...
And i'm still doing it
LOL in alot of postions you could be one away if the opponent stops fighting back
Mr Freeze 🥶
New Title: How to deal with a Verbal Jiu-Jitsu Submission Escape
that’s one of the most annoying things that happen in the dojo. i was a sensei and would stop people in the middle of their roll i heard this happening. it was seriously annoying, especially when they were giving wrong advice. sometimes i’d stop the whole class and reiterate “this is not the time for you to teach the class that’s what i’m here for, please just roll”
I'm a purple belt and there is a couple guys guys at my gym that do the same thing, brown and black. I just don't roll with them. Losing is a part of getting better and ego will only hold you back
Ok but you didnt have to bring up their race like that.
And yet it seems like your ego gets butt hurt when it receives a little guidance.
This isnt a competition…it’s training
@@TheMightyZim just dodged the point like all those upper belts dodged the submission
@@TheMightyZimego boy spotted! tactical teacher spotted!
then it shouldnt be a problem to let go of submission. If the submission is sure, then only reason to follow through and get annoyed by lecture/guidance is the ego.
If chemistry is not there and priorities are different one can always find another partner.
“Show me after class” or “I’m not interested in a private lesson, thanks”.
Lucky for me my purple belt only lectures me after he gets out and whoops my ass LMAO.
The Live Lecturer
This makes my glad I train where I do. All of my higher belts will help tune my submissions, but they’ll do it either if I can’t lock it in or after the roll is over.
Ah yes, the Hail Mary Coaching Escape
lol, on par with, “we’re getting close to the wall/edge of the mat” escape
Our gym calls those guys "the professor"
The Tapademic
Yeah the advice at the end is great. If there’s no time limit, I don’t mind a pause to comment the position as long as we can continue.
If it’s a timer, talking afterwards is the best way.
Even as a coach, I always let them play it out and see where they go, then comment after.
How about the Submission Sage!
- Because they're always ready with sage wisdom when they feel the tap approaching. 😂😂
"So ... are you tapping now, or should I keep going on this submission?"
These are Submition counselors
Going to start using this
I'm definitely one of the, "hold on a second" guys but usually in the opposite situation. I usually do it when I have a sub or "dominant" position that I see an issue with something Im trying or mistake I made and want to see if it can be countered/exploited. Probably annoying but has helped me and my rolling partners figure out new things.
Sounds like a great way to roll IMO. If your partner is down for that sort of thing.
@SweetSpotGuitar depends on the partner. Usually the first few times they think I'm trying to trick them or something but a couple partners it's turned into a pretty good back and forth discussing ways to improve
The “fragile ego expert”
I’ve had this with one guy a lot. Whenever I have success suddenly there’s something to show me but if he’s winning we’re still going. The other one I have with one guy he’s a bit older in his early 40’s and has had quite a few injuries. He always hits me with the “hey I know you’re a young athletic guy I don’t want to get hurt so let’s just flow roll” and I respect that I’m always down for light rolling if someone wants to so I agree. Then as soon as we start he’s in full comp mode. Diving on submission being super aggressive with every pass and defense and I’m like “damn I thought we were flow rolling”
Am I the only one who loves the person who stops people and coaches them through the submission. We have a guy like this at our school. I find it hilarious. 😂😂
Ohhhhh the ole going "coach mode" 😅 typically for me it's always been an upper belt that does this, I never had a lower rank do this to me ... Definitely happened Alot with blue belts when I was a white belt ... A few purple belts did this but not nearly as many ... I'm a purple belt currently and haven't had a brown or black belt ever do this.
Going "Coach mode"
Pointers to help lower belts are fine when the higher belt is easily winning the roll, or easily escaping the sub etc.
luckily, I've only had after rolls people explain some situations that have come up in rolls.
mainly "you would've had X sub, pass, etc if you did ABC." then we went over a position/situation after the roll and kinda walked me through what may have been a possible path to a finish or finish something I was attempting.
These people will talk themselves out of any situation. Bunch of Johnnie Conchran's, " If the tap is legit, I still won't submit"
Send me an email or dm on instagram. Your comment made me laugh.
that's either "the professor" or "never been subbed"
"Let me tell you something" guy
Generally the only place to do something like this js rolling with a less experienced practicioner and he is giving his life to a submission that isn't working at all. And I would still wait until they're tired before start coaching.
"Correct me after I tap you"
I like it when white belts do this
There are some great names below! How about the "Frantic Pedantic?"
Ive waited till the end of rolls and them helped someone out if they are struggling finishing a sub or another technique, but actually stopping the roll to do it would never cross my mind unless I thought they were going to do something in a way that might injure me.
The lecture-roller or lecturoller
They're too prideful to allow someone to say they beat them, which is nuts
Dr. Excuse-a-Lock
Tell him you’re happy to hear his advice but after he escapes the submission first.
Happened all the time with this one guy years ago. He'd either 'tap' once, so you'd stop and he'd continue or going into 'teaching mode' as I called it. He did it with everyone. Soon as he was uncomfortable you just knew it.
This happens a lot, and in my experience, it happens to lower belts from the higher belts primarily blur and purple. It seems to be an embarrassment issue for the upper belt and they don't want to actually have to accept being submitted by a lower belt. This isn't always the case, but you do seem to see it a lot at the beginning of blue and purple belt. The lower belt student has a legitimate position and and could finish the submission, but the upper belt has his/her ego bruised at the fact that a lower belt may submit them. I am sure that this isn't always the case, but it does seem to be the case often. There is no shame in getting summitted regardless of you or your opponents skill level. The other thing you'll see is the immediate excuses as soon as the sub is in. "I was working on X, Y, or Z".
3:40 that's so funny 😂😂 I've got to use that one
This type of guy definitely needs a universal term. "the submission coach"?
We all have one of these. Ours is a good guy that's trying to save face. I don't worry about it
Brofessor
I knew at least one other would think the same😂
This kind of things runs the gamut. If they're just doing it to avoid a pass/bad position/sub chalk it up and a W and move on. You'll forget about it in a day or so. If you don't, well, that dwelling is a you problem.
But I would generally advise that if they're a higher belt you give it a second to see what they say. When I was a white belt I had a large blue belt stop things. He saved me from getting my fingers twisted up in his gi and probably broken because my grip was a variation on stupid. Same guy did it again later when I took a shitty mount-ish position and he pointed out that I was walking into a sweep that left me in a great position to get my knee wrecked.
You almost got me guy
Professional Blue Falcon
'Reframers of reality'
There's a particular lower belt (much larger) at my gym that does this. I get it with upper belts that feel threatened but it's particularly annoying with lower belts. I will say though, sometimes he's given his advice.
I’ve ran into this one time. Maybe call the “submission assistant” 🤷
If im ever gonna coach someone through a submission i escape first then go back to the position and give them pointers.
There is a very similar situation to this but not the same, when you're rolling with an utter menace who is trying a technique but clearly doing it completely wrong. I was going easy on a guy and let him get me into a pressure pass, but he just kept pushing me into the mat and refused to turn his head to let my legs slide by. I said "Just turn your head!" And he looked confused and just gave up. I have never seen a person not understand a pressure pass isn't just holding someone directly in front of them and expecting they will evaporate, one of us has to move.
The same guy managed to get a kind of sumi gaeshi throw on me once because I had stopped rolling as we were right next to some other guys. I was about to reset and he just grabbed me and threw me on them.
He looked like he had won the olympics, I asked him "Didn't you realise there were people behind you?"
I do know the coaches though, I had one guy out a terribly loose ezekial on me and then tell me to just tap next time. I was so confused, "Tap to a technique that isn't on?' Another guy at the gym said as a joke he would let the guy tap him with an utter garbage submission then ask him with awe in his face "How did you do that? Could you show me?" Get a lecture full of inaccuracies, then beat the shit out of him the next round and say "Thanks coach."
Love the purple belt roll narrators 🙄
I've heard on this very channel, numerous times, how some more skilled guys will allow you to "work" and not to let that go to your head, yet here we are letting that go to your head. Also, not everyone wants to be explosive. Some people actually want to learn jiu-jitsu and flow. Explosiveness is for competition and not everyone is here for that. (I've also heard that on this very channel). The second I hear, "I used to wrestle a little bit" you know the guy thinks he's training for the Olympics.
Ummmm... did you mean to reply to someone?
You may have heard lots of things on this channel. But as things go. Context matters. It's one thing to let someone work. It's another thing to lecture when you're not letting someone work. It's a difference and we know it.
And I don't know what "some people actually want to learn" means. People who are competitive are learning. Learning in BJJ isn't some sort of academic exercise that happens. We learn through our physical exertion just as much as our intellectual understanding of a technique or concept.
Tactical Tutor
the wait wait wait let me show you guy....
this happens to me all the time by people of even my own belt level and less stripes.
I don't understand the stop in the action part when, if you can tell they don't have it, you can just coach them through it while they are doing it. Usually, I wait until they fail twice and then put myself in the same situation again and when they go for again, say "this time, when you do that, try this..."
Then again, I don't really like chatting during roll times. I want to get max rolls in. Even when they have questions, they have xx number of seconds before the next roll starts and they need to speak quickly.
“No Tap Nancy”
The Pointless Proclaimer
When they talk just say, "shhhh, go to sleep"
We have a fellow here that does this all the time. At one point he claimed that he coached up R.T. (IYKYK) our association head when he rolled with him at a seminar.
We joke that he performs seances 👻 to coach up Helio Gracie on his technique.
Jitsplaining
I consider that stalling... And I would watch for that when my students rolled. And me and the other instructors would yell, "Less grab assing and more rolling."
We threw strikes at my gym as well. So not only are you defending against a submission, but punches as well. Made it harder to talk.
As a white belt, I do what you did. I choose someone else to roll with. That said, the culture in my gum is really good and it isn't usually a problem.
I like to be told how to escape
If I keep struggling to escape the same position and you notice, please, by all means, quickly guide me.
Never happened to me, but we had a guy who would do it to my training partners. We were the same rank, and me and my training partners, who were lower ranked than him, always got the better of him.
I cant speak to every gym or even most gyms, but I can say that I have been to multiple gyms where declining a roll was highly frowned upon and usually resulted in a higher belt putting a "lesson" onto you for being difficult. I know of one specific where declining to roll with someone (and GOD HELP YOU if you that person is a friend of the Instructor or a long timer) would get you a painful round with the black belt. I have personal knowledge on this one.
I call them “coach ( insert name)”
Hi, I got a question for you.
I really want to compeat in bjj competitions, but I am very scared of breaking my bones or be injured in any way. Do you have any advice for me on how to get through with my fear so I can compeat?
Yes I know a guy like that, I started going super hard with him so he doesn't get time to start giving his lecture, so he got super mad told me I was too strong, brute and will end up hurting someone.
What a clown, he's like 30 lb heavier than me, and the guy is a 2 stripe white belt (like me), how can a white belt feel able to give a lecture to anyone?.
Sounds like someone you might call a Brofessor.
I don't know. I've never gotten that close to submitting anyone.
'Tony'. Named after someone.
I think you can make a play on Hannibal Lecter, like Annabelle Lecturer. Or an Anna, for sure.
I call them “captain assist.” Or just call them”almost”. Like the movie apocolypto
Always find those guys weird haha
GREAT movie and great nickname. 🤙🏼
Serious question though what if you’re a higher belt and beating the crap out of the guy and then you see them make a mistake tap them 1-2 times and then proceed to help them and coach them through what they could’ve done better with the intention of helping them be better? Is that a dick move? Or is it a dick live if you do it while losing only?
I say that's fine- but ask first. "Hey do you want a tip that might prevent me isolating that arm?"
“Talk No Jitsu”
It’s an ego thing. Only because you’re higher rank doesn’t mean you can’t get tapped out by a lower rank. I feel as long as you stop caring about your rank & focus on you’ll training, you’ll grow .
Is this the same category as if I pity tap a poor submission (out of simple boredom, but they’re trying their best) and THEN coach someone through it AFTER the roll?
I'm guessing blue belt in this situation has neck cranked other several times trying to win
Hi, Chewy! Can you give any advice on how to love jiu jitsu? What inspires you and how can a white belt be more passionate?
just say, hey when rolling im working cardio n secondary follow up attacks n case of failure so i dont like stopping...after the roll show me - its how i dealt with higher belts a times coming up n i how show lower belts so they cant assume ''i could of tapped you, does what your gonna show me have merit? ' btw its only if they actually do something really wrong....
You've heard the "Brazilian Tap". That's just a "Brazilian Lecture". Same thing. Ego and pride. Declining to talk during your roll is 100% acceptable as long as the subject isn't safety.
I will tap first then we can talk. we can get back into the position and ask the professor how he can sink it in better and what the hell did I do to get caught.
PREfessor
I don’t really get to bothered by this. Honestly when they say lets get it better i ask to work from there and i play with how to make it tighter and finish it. Especially during the different types of escapes. For me its training idc win or lose if they do and wanna “coach me through it” I’ll take it as a learning experience.
If you want to show how good you are as a lecturer, lecture them into being able to submit you in a way they never have before.
What's up with the video at 1:10? Seems like there is some weird AI glitch for a second.
Happens a handful of times throughout the video actually
Think it’s just edits, probably cutting out pauses?
@@larryblarry yeah but I think it's some weird AI edit to try to make it look smooth but if you pause right when it happens you get some really janky frames
it's the camera. I didn't set the iso. Has nothing to do with ai or excessive editing.