I totally agree like I have been left almost traumatised today I had nightmares last night, thinking how could I be saved and then have a possibility of going in the tribulation. I believed as long as I had 100% faith in Christ and his blood that I am saved but now repo Man who has been doing this for a long time is telling us otherwise. But I do have to say it's not on him it's on me for not understanding the scripture and having trust in the gospel I'm reading so the gospel he is reading is telling him that, and that is a worry
Everyone who is Saved will be going in the rapture. If you have accepted Jesus as your savior, trusting in what he did for you on the cross and trusting in his blood you are going in the rapture. We are the Church those who have accepted Christ and the Church will not be in the Tribulation. ❤️❤️🙏🙏
Exactly Josh. Thank you. There are a lot of comments here that are not right. The rapture is part of the Salvation package and we are sealed upon our belief in Jesus.
No one who puts their faith in Christ will be left behind to face God's wraith. Watching & believing in the Rapture is not a requirement for being Raptured. Only being covered by the Blood of Christ is.
Wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week. It's the Day of the Lord- the day that lasts a year. It's the day of (year of) atonement. So yes, we are not destined for wrath but that doesn't mean many won't go through a portion of the Trib. The remnant (the gleanings) that did not make the second rapture (mid trib main harvest) will be snatched to the Fathers barn before this wrath is poured out. The day of the Lord is also the day of salvation to the remnant because they escape this wrath.
@@denisemcaskill4049 If someone is saved yet still loves this world, the Holy Spirit has not perfected the good work He began in them yet. All of us are at different stages in our walk with God (even though we are saved).
Wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week. It’s the Day of the Lord- the day that lasts a year. It’s the day of (year of) atonement. So yes, we are not destined for wrath but that doesn’t mean many won’t go through a portion of the Trib. The remnant (the gleanings) that did not make the second rapture (mid trib main harvest) will be snatched to the Fathers barn before this wrath is poured out. The day of the Lord is also the day of salvation to the remnant because they escape this wrath.
Sealed = Saved. Once saved we go in the rapture - whether we are looking or not. It's not up to us to "decide" if we want to stay or leave in the rapture! On a deathbed some may say they're not ready to die but does that mean God relents and lets them stay a while longer just because they want to ? No. Those who have already died in Christ are saved and will be given new bodies in the rapture, those that didn't, won't. There are no tribulation saints from before the coming time of the tribulation. I am concerned with this video to be honest. It is complicating the simplicity of the gospel and splitting hairs. It's also creating unnecessary confusion for any young Christians.
Wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week. It's the Day of the Lord- the day that lasts a year. It's the day of (year of) atonement. So yes, we are not destined for wrath but that doesn't mean many won't go through a portion of the Trib. The remnant (the gleanings) that did not make the second rapture (mid trib main harvest) will be snatched to the Fathers barn before this wrath is poured out. The day of the Lord is also the day of salvation to the remnant because they escape this wrath.
If you're saved you're saved. Period. You have the Holy Spirit? You go in the rapture. Having said that, there are an awful lot of people who technically believe Jesus is real. They go to church and profess to be Christian, but never received the Holy Spirit. I think these are the Tribulation Saints.
100% correct 🎉 There will be tribulation Saints but they won't be saved until and during the tribulation ❤ when you were saved you are sealed & the Holy Spirit enters into you and when the Lord says "come up hither" I believe HE'S talking to the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit will be taken off the Earth with our bodies... we go straight up to meet the Lord in the air and then the Holy Spirit is not left on this Earth during the tribulation❤ that's how I understand it
The 5 virgins stayed behind (they do Not represent the unsaved). The unsaved are not invited to the wedding. So who are?? The luke warm Christian (the Tribulation saint)
@@EsthersDryBones333 I’ve been shown that the wedding doesn’t happen until the end of the millennium when the new heaven and new earth are ready and then the spirit and the bride say come to all the guests. That’s why the bride isn’t mentioned until the end of Revelation in the Bible
Perfected forever. And ...you are not your own. If you are saved, you absolutely are going on the rapture. Tribulation is for unbelievers. .....because they did not believe. Why complicate something that is so simple.
“NO” - born again is a new creation. You cannot be unborn. Once the Holy Spirit is SEALED in a believer that’s sealed. No one can unseal what God has sealed. The gates of hell shall not prevail against the church. The antichrist is given power to overcome “the saints”…NOT IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IN THE HOUSE! This would equate to “striking the stone twice”. The only people going through Jacob’s Trouble are Jews that did not accept Jesus and unbelievers. The tribulation saints are “the saints” that are not saved at the time of the rapture. Mike, your line of thinking leads me to conclude that people that want to stay here are in love with this world and are not saved. They believe in themselves and works. They may “think” they are saved but only God knows the heart. It is with our heart we believe and with our mouth we confess. Everyone that goes in the tribulation did not truly believe and trust in Jesus. The have to do “their portion” both the "lake of fire" and the "great tribulation" are representations of God's wrath, signifying the ultimate punishment for those who reject God and his teachings, with the lake of fire often seen as the final destination for the wicked after the tribulation period
Once you are saved, you are sealed. Ephesians 1:13-14 “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest (down payment) of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession (rapture), unto the praise of his glory.” 2 Corinthians 1:22 “Who hath also SEALED us, and given the earnest (down payment) of the Spirit in our hearts.” Ephesians 4:30 “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are SEALED unto the day of redemption.”, the Rapture. Romans 8:23 “And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.” No, saved people do not go into the Tribulation. Not according to Scripture. We’re going up!
These discussions require maturity in both faith and understanding and isn't for everyone. And that is completely OK! Everyone is allowed to agree, disagree, and discuss. Let us come reason with each other. Name calling, low iq comments, and emotional outbursts do not enrich anyone who agrees or disagrees with the discussion and will not be tolerated. Let us bless each other and learn. Listen, Learn, and Grow.
Totally agree... some shouldn't watch this Other channels talk about nothing controversial... they like to stay on an even keel; young Christians or people offended by discussions should watch those channels Just boring sometimes ... 😂😂... but sweet !
@@rettaabba726Young Christians should study the Word and refrain from watching internet. There's a whole new generation of baby Christians who cannot rightly divide and whose only knowledge comes from the Internet. Do you not know that not all should be teachers? Or that teachers will be judged harshly?
The “bride” is in anticipation and eagerly waiting to see her Lord no matter the trials this world brings. They are ready any day for Him to come and seek Him more than what’s in this world. JOY!!!!! Truly filled with God and at peace in their hearts.
I didn’t watch it because who has time for an hour and a half video? But If they are preaching the true gospel then this video should’ve been about a minute and a half. Saved by grace, raptured by grace. You are either in Christ or you’re not, there is no in between.
There are a lot of confused Christians in the world though. Nowhere in the Bible, does it say to just accept Jesus into your heart and then you are saved. So many people do that and then continue to live the way that they have and they think that they are saved. They don’t spend time in the word and they don’t spend time with God and pray and they do not have fruit that shows they have changed. What about the fig tree that Jesus cursed because it did not bear any fruit? I am studying that right now trying to figure it out trying to figure out what is in between the lines because the Bible is a spirit filled book and there’s so much to learn from it.
@@amylynn2365 you’re right, nowhere does it say that. It says BELIEVE and you will be saved. Simple childlike faith in Christ alone. It is a free gift 🎁. God made it so simple, yet many feel the need to add to HIS finished work. “ not of yourselves it is the gift of God, not of works so that no one may boast. “
Agree with Ryan. A parallel is found at passover in the bible. when the angel of death looked for the blood of the lamb. Alot of christians glorify their works and point fingers at others but true believers are humble and glorify the finished work of Jesus
Hey Mike! The tribulation is for the wrath of God & judgement on the world & to bring Israel back to God. We are not appointed unto wrath. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit. Therefore we will not go through God's wrath on the earth.
The way i understand it is... The bridegroom, Jesus is the head. The bride, the church is Jesus's body. The old testament people are called his friends. The tribulation saints are servants in the temple. A tribulation saint is not saved until they get saved after we are gone. If right now someone is a believer of anything besides the gospel of grace, is not saved. They are believing in vain. Works, etc. Only the sealed Holy Spirit believers are the bride. Tribulation saints will not have the holy spirit indwelling in them. They must do works. That is not taking the mark and dying for their faith.
The Bride is Israel... the Body of Christ is the Church. Christ is Messiah to the Jews but Lord and Saviour to the Church (both Jew and Gentile under the current dispensation of grace).
@B0SS330 2 Corinthians 11:2 - For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
@B0SS330 Isaiah 62:5 “For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.”
Revelation 4 is the key to understanding what is happening in the throne room of God before the seals are open. And it explains who is there specifically. Don’t miss this. First we see the Lord himself seated on a throne. Then we see 24 elders seated on their thrones, wearing white robes crowns this is a crucial detail, because they are physically wearing white robes and crowns; they have been given their resurrected bodies. Clothed in the righteousness of Jesus. These saints are a representation of the church leadership. The number 12 represents government and doubling it is a way of making it concrete or emphatic ( we can break this down more.) To me the absolute nail here is this, rev 4:5 depicts the 7 fold spirit of God is in the throne room at this moment before the seals open. 7 is used to describe the spirit in Isaiah 11:2 with 7 characteristics, and 7 represents completeness or entirety. The entire Holy Spirit is in the throne room at this exact moment nowhere else in creation. We are told all through scripture that the Spirit resides in us, and will never leave us nor forsake us. If He is in the throne room, we must be by default as well. Revelation 4 clearly tells us that everyone endwelled with the Holy Spirit will be in the throne room of God to witness the opening of the scroll by our king, the Lamb of God.
@ if we really want to divide and get into it John tells us elsewhere John 1:18 that no man has seen the father…. What John sees is a vision Built for him by the spirit to describe and detail for us what the throne room will look like, the vision he saw of the Father was not actually the father tangible. That being said, the key note of John’s vision was that the elders had physical bodies. The dead saints in the throne room today do not yet have physical bodies. The dead in Christ will rise first. Apply logic to this and you will see that this is a vision of the throne room after the rapture.
@@squirreljones3595 this is so scattered and misleading I don’t even know where to begin. You haven’t stopped to consider what I said of rev 4. Which will cut down your entire stance here. God bless friend.
Exactly, we are promised eternal life. The rapture, however, is a reward being offered to the last generation, to those who are wholly committed to Him. Salvation is free, rewards are earned. Many Christians are sleepy, most have never read through their Bible. they are eagerly waiting for next weekends football game. God will be with the Christians who miss the pre-trib rapture and help them through whatever they have to go through. He is faithful. There is also a mid-trib rapture at Rev 12:5.
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, - 1 Corinthians 15:51 The Christians in Corinth were terribly sinful, and the Apostle Paul had to deal with them in his first letter to the church in Corinth. Yet, in 1 Cor 15:51, near the end of his letter when Paul was revealing the mystery of the rapture, he included EVERYONE of those sinful Corinthians when he said "...we shall ALL be changed". All means ALL. Herein is the truth: we are saved by grace and kept saved by grace, for we shall ALL be changed, putting on immortality, having received forgiveness of sins through His blood. The day of our rapture is our redemption. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; - Ephesians 1:7
All of christendom heretofore has been spared the tribulation, and there's no reason to think anyone who is saved at this time would be subjected to it. I believe if you are saved. You are saved from both the lake of fire and the tribulation, just as every other christian who has ever existed on the planet.
Why muddy the water? Isn’t it better to say, if you are left behind, it’s because your faith was not in Jesus. But that you were trying to Use Him as Fire insurance. Or as a nice way to live, but never truly Surrendering Your life to Jesus in Faith. Don’t Muddy the Water. This should be a question amongst believers only. Not people of weak faith either least you make them stumble also.
Yes!!!! My sibs! Your/our crown for loving His appearing awaits us! Something to toss back unto Him in praise! The believers on Christ are not appointed to wrath!
Well what about the people who are killed instantly when the rapture happens? Planes falling out of the sky, sudden destruction and they will not escape. God doesn't send anyone to hell. People either choose him or not. Period. God is fair and just. Even to the people who died before. They all were given many chances to accept, but chose not to. Period. You are thinking to deep into it. You are questioning God's character.
Great video….. God has a wonderful plan for all 3 harvests! God told us the scriptures would be opened up to us in the last days. Read your bibles and pray for understanding. We still have so much to learn….. in fact, I think we will be learning for an eternity.
Hebrews 9:28 amplified version " Even so it is that Christ, having been offered to take upon Himself and bear as a burden the sins of many once and [a]once for all, will appear a second time, not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin, but to bring to full salvation those who are [eagerly, constantly, and patiently] waiting for and expecting Him." What if you are not eagerly waiting ?
@@andreastalcup137 So what do you say about the 'dead in Christ' who may have died whilst going through a lukewarm season? They are ALL raptured, without exception.
I'm one of the speakers, should I be worried for reasoning? Jesus Christ saved me, I believe Him, I believe the Gospel. If we can't talk we will be silent, this may help some folks.
Repoman- it’s NOT a tough one , all that are saved are sealed period! They WILL ALL be raptured whether they like it or not! It’s based on the gospel NOT Elisha ! Grandma who’s not watching will be raptured! A new believer that hasn’t even been taught the rapture WILL be raptured! The Bible makes it clear , all that are saved have the Holy Spirit and are going to be raptured! All of us watching receive a crown , that’s the DIFFERENCE! Yes, the tribulation saints get a double portion because they get beheaded ! You are making it a guessing game when we know the simplicity of the gospel , do not complicate it with the rapture, especially in these final moments of time ! People do NOT need to be questioning their salvation! I love you but you are overthinking this , you need to step back and get back to the basic understanding of the one true gospel John 3:16❤️✝️
Thank you Brother Mike! Looking up! Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Acts 16:31 “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Colossians 1:14 “In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:” Salvation is obtained by simply believing in Jesus’ death (Blood sacrifice), burial and resurrection for payment of all your sins (past, present and future) with your whole heart.
Hi , I want to preface by saying that When I was "woken up" early this year about the rapture. The first thing that I was reminded was the Matthew25, the parable of the 10 virgin. 5 was wise with oil and 5 was foolish without oil filled lamp. Most teaching of this says what the oil is supposed to be the holy spirit, so the wise-foolish represents the beleivers and unbeleivers. I have a major problem with the above because it says that all 10 were "waiting" for the groom. Why would unbeleivers be waiting for Jesus to come back? They wouldn't. So my conclusion is that all 10 are the church and beleivers! Some are left behind when theyre not looking. I personally beleive that "being saved" and "being rapture ready" are 2 different things
@@LibbySlaughter101 Matthew 25 is parable told by Jesus, not Paul. In your understanding who are the 5 foolish virgins represents? I'm all for that everyone is taken in the rapture, but as Mike said, will God drag everyone (kicking and screaming) who doesn't have the desire to be with Him?
@@hedvixWill I'm acquainted with the parable of the 10 virgins - I was referring to your assessment that only some believers would be raptured when I said that wasn't what Paul taught. As to the parable itself, I believe that the foolish virgins were not believers. Jesus told the foolish virgins 'I NEVER knew you.' He wouldn't address a believer in this way. He knows and loves all believers. He said no one would snatch them from his hand. Remember, they had no oil - oil signifies the Holy Spirit. - No, Jesus won't 'drag' believers to Heaven, they will be raptured and will be glad that they were. The Shepherd knows what's best for his sheep and protects them from danger. Maranatha!
Psalms 43:5 Why are you in despair, my soul? And why are you restless within me? Wait for God, for I will again praise Him For the help of His presence, my God. Psalms 50:23 “He who offers a sacrifice of thanksgiving honors Me; And to him who sets his way properly I will show the salvation of God.”
The young Christian of today didn’t know the world we knew, this is just the way it always been for them, and they are getting married, having or wanting children and dreaming of buying a house etc. they don’t think things are “that” bad and don’t think Jesus is coming any time soon. That is what I am seeing. So what you’re saying they would all be left behind- that’s a terrifying thought.
Terrific video, Mike. Most people who are commenting think God's wrath is poured out during the entire 7 years, not realizing that He doesn't begin to pour out His wrath until the 6th year of Daniel's 70th week. Since they don't understand this, they're having a hard time hearing that there will be many Christians missing the pre-trib rapture and end up experiencing the first 3.5 years of the trib. If only they knew that there is also a mid-trib rapture at Rev 12:5. That's when the entire church goes up, it's the main harvest. The first fruits go up at pre-trib, they're the ones who have been wholly dedicated to God and understand what He's doing because they've studied Bible prophecy instead of spending all their spare time enjoying the world's entertainments. don't get discouraged, Mike. Keep teaching truth like this. Yes, you'll lose many subs but you need to wake people up with the truth!
I have heard friends of mine say that they want to be raptured out of here, but not just yet. They want to see a child born, a marriage, etc. I guess from what you are saying, that would be the person who would have to go through the tribulation.. Myself, I looking for His appearance every day and to be raptured out of here.
Salvation is a birth. Once you’re born into the family, you are always in the family. (Exactly as when you were born of your mother). You receive the Holy Spirit the moment you get saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” This isn’t referring to water baptism. Water baptism is simply a picture of what occurs spiritually. John the Baptist clearly tells us this difference. Matthew 3:11 “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”
I will pray for everyone who watches this show. Please pray for my unsaved family.. Time is running out! 1-Corinthians-Chapter-15 1-4 Romans-Chapter-3 23-28. I hope to see you in heaven :)
What did the Lord HIMSELF say? JN 6:39 & 40, also verse 54. Jesus, Creator God has the final say! What did He say THREE TIMES?? Also, watch for ravening wolves in sheep's clothing who seek to discourage and sow division among the faithful.
GREAT VIDEO! One of my viewers notified me that you had Wayne on so I tuned in to your livestream. No offense, but my group doesn't watch date setters because we're watching everyday. Wayne's and my channels have taught the 3 harvests for years. I've made over 100 vids proving the 3 harvests; teaching who is in them, and why. There is a pre-trib rapture of the bride. The saved, left behind Christians will have an outstanding ministry during the 1st half of Daniel's 70th week and an even more magnificent ministry once they're in they're glorified bodies when they go up at mid-trib. My channel teaches what the glorified bride will do and then what the glorified church will do. Mike, I admire you for trying to figure out StreamYard while live. You've inspired me to make an attempt. Perhaps you and Wayne will be my first guests. 😆 But more importantly, Mike, I admire you for considering a different paradigm and showing your viewers that it's okay to change your prophetic interpretations. We're all learning new things so we all need to remain humble like you. Joy to you!
Both Sue and Wayne teach the 3 harvests in such an understandable way. All the harvests are important and valued by God. He loves all of us and has a plan for us that is good! I so appreciate your teachings Sister Sue.
Question: I’m tracking with you Mike except for where does the different dispensations come into play? Believers were “saved” differently per each dispensation. (Robert Breaker I found explains it best). Ex: works were a part b4 Jesus’ death on the cross. Brides and Trib saints were not spoken of b4 Jesus’ shed blood.
Sue Keith sent me to your channel. This video is helpful to the prophetic community. It shows that you, Wayne, Sue and I are aligning more and more with each other on what the prophecies reveal. It's good to see that there's another channel who is not stuck in the one rapture paradigm. Traditions have been very blinding. Thanks for your diligence in the Word.
I watched your video on departure Heaven. I want you to try to think about what your words did. You made the statement that saved people go to the tribulation, because they need to be more refined. You tell everyone that you are saved by the blood, and once you're saved you're always saved. Your statement now though says that I have to work a bit more to refine myself more so that I can be saved, so I go home in the rapture and don't have to go through the tribulation. Now the gospel is saved by works. To someone that doesn't understand the scripture this is something that could cause mass doubt in someone's mind, . I don't want to judge you because that's not right but I'll be honest with you, for a split second there , I actually felt confused, I was like hang on a minute I've been waiting for the rapture because I'm saved but now there's a possibility there's something about me that needs more refining I may have to go through the tribulation I wonder how many other people thought the same thing. I think you're under spiritual attack and I think it's making you think that that's what I think is happening otherwise, perhaps you should be batting for the other team the one that believes in works an actions as a means to be saved just saying much love to you❤
No, now is not the time to be fuzzy. There are a TON of people who believe they are Christian for all sorts of reasons. Jesus does not say "I knew you a little while, but then I forgot you. He says "I NEVER KNEW YOU." This is a post Trib/mid Trib argument. Jesus said in Matthew 24. It will be like NOOO other time in the history. In Hebrews, Paul's says "Until the full number of Gentiles come in" In Revelation it says of the "Tribulation saints" they can't be numbered. This discussion is misguided. The whole 7 years is the wrath of God. Because 1/4 of the population die. Please please don't let new Christians see this.
Actually, He says "the fulness of the Gentiles" that means a cup that is "full" of their iniquity. When that cup is full, He is going to pour it out on them and they will get to drink it. Their iniquity won't taste very good to them. What they sowed, they will reap. Read that entire passage, it isn't talking about a rapture.
The entire tribulation is wrath intensifying in severity. The tribulation saints are getting their palms by 7:9 and before the half hour of silence. After this, the greatest wrath is poured out on those whose names are NOT written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
Mike, why the hand-wringing about apparent “fairness” in treatment comparing trib-saints vs age-of-grace / non-saved people who naturally died before the rapture? Both categories arguably had an equal chance to choose or reject Jesus during natural life. The fact that some unbelievers will stay naturally alive on earth across the boundary of the rapture event (missing the rapture) but having a destiny to become trib saints, does not in any way negate the “fairness” in opportunity of all prior age-of-grace unbelievers who died without having chosen Jesus. Yes, the rapture and its aftermath will be chaotic for those left behind and will drive many (a multitude no man can count) to drop to their knees, cast off the world and choose Jesus - that’s the point! Hard to argue that pre-rapture lost who naturally died did not somehow receive compete fairness in opportunity in God’s economy across ages. The issue is not just about ultimately avoiding the Lake of Fire - there is a special opportunity for a discrete group of those “alive who remain” believers to avoid the Tribulation and God’s wrath. Remember - Those who naturally died in Christ before the rapture also avoid the Tribulation… how does that create any conflict in fairness vs unbelievers by choice who rejected Jesus across all time?
The ones that believe are going in the rapture the ones during the tribulation did not believe before the rapture they believed after the Rapture they will have to go by works we went in the Rapture because we go by faith not works
Repoman64 what is the Bible verse that says: those not waiting for the return of the Lord be counted as the wicked, you mentioned? I'm trying to find it, I cannot. Pls answer.
@@StandinginArmorofGod1973 revelation 3:3 Galatians 5:21 Roman’s 13:13. Inheritance doesn’t mean salvation. It means to be the bride. Many not watching and worrying about the cares of this world will be saved and taken to heaven in seal 6.
My understanding regarding salvation in the OT is that everyone, when they died, went to hades; those who believed in God went to the paradise section while all others went to the torment side. Those in the torment side had a second chance when Jesus revealed Himself to them when He died. All who believed received the HS at Pentecost and ascended Spiritually at that time. None of the dead in Christ have new bodies yet, therefore salvation is not yet complete for anyone. So OT believers did not receive the first fruits of salvation until Pentecost, and salvation is no more complete for them than salvation for those who died in Christ after Pentecost.
Before Jesus sent the comforter, the Holy Spirit could come and go. Once the Tribulation clock starts ticking, the Age of Grace will be over. To me, there’s a fine line between a lukewarm and tare. People should forgive everyone and themselves plus get right with the Lord. A large number of people are probably going to perish within one hour/day of the rapture.
Working in the world, you'll go in the tribulation? What? I feel like you're promoting the tribulation. Deceptive spirit that is purposely confusing people and making them worry.
On Prophecy Unfolding, Henry Gruver mentioned Ps 37. The saints will be led by the Holy Spirit to certain cities and locations where they will be protected from jets, soldiers. In one instance he saw a volcano erupt and the lava protected them from tanks etc. While the evil will be led to go to cities marked for destruction.
This is total nonesense! Sorry! You are making a case of something that clearly doesn’t talk about the rapture or the tribulation! The scripture say that Jesus said all that the father has given me I will loose none!! HE SAVES HE KEEPS US SAVED AND HE KEEPS HIS FROM THE HOUR OF TRIAL. Period. Wayne from the overcomes is all over the place and shouldn’t be listened to imo. It isn’t talking about church and tribulation saints it’s always between the church and Israel - the saints are the Jews! Different program for the church and the Jews not the church and the church!
I believe Wayne's testimony and the experience he had. However, that does not make what he teaches and says infallible. He is a human just like the rest of us and it is my personal belief that he is way off base on this subject in particular. Wayne refences a lot of "old Testament" for his argument but seems to forget that the "church" was not even created yet..it was still a mystery until it was slowly revealed by Jesus, his disciples and Paul. The church and the Jews are two separate entities. The Church (Jesus Body) will absolutely not be here for the tribulation. Jesus will not pour out wrath upon himself (his body) He took that on the cross for us. I believe Wayne truly had an amazing experience with the lord but before that experience even he said he was only a Christian for "10 days". Some of us have been deep in the word for over 50 years. Saying that believers can go into the tribulation does nothing but cause fear and anxiety towards new believers in Christ. This is the opposite of what God intended.
Koru, you are right. No believer is being left behind to go through the tribulation. We all have some type of bad theology or misconceptions, but we are sealed until the day of redemption which is the rapture. Even those who are not watching for the rapture. This type of video is confusing and discouraging for the believer who doesn't know the truth about their own salvation and being sealed by the Holy Spirit..
@@squirreljones3595 Please read the book of Daniel for confirmation regarding the 'Tribulation'. It is called 'Jacob's Trouble' - It is God's final dealing with the Jews, who ultimately (the remnant left) recognise Jesus as their true Messiah. Yes the Gentiles are also subject to God's wrath but the Tribulation centres around the Jews, thus the reference by Jesus to the Antichrist and the book of Daniel in Matthew 24.
💥💥Something occurred to me MIKE: The people alive now, not saved, have an opportunity during the 7 Year Tribulation to 'repent' and get saved. A 2nd chance so to speak. Those who died in the past 2,000 year and before don't have that '2ND CHANCE' to be saved like those who witnessed the Rapture and realized they should have been saved prior. 😉😉
I thought of that also, but then remembered that each person, as long as they have breath, had the opportunity to get saved. They may not have had the 'benefit' of witnessing the rapture, but neither have we. Most had the opportunity to read the Bible and seek the Truth (same as us). That is faith; we have not seen, yet we believe. Those who want/need proof before they truly believe will suffer the consequences in a different dispensation.
What gets me is the bible says some people will be resurrected to everlasting joy, but some to everlasting contempt. So will everyone that has died get resurrected but those that lived their lives as an unbelieving person be resurrected not to be saved, or a second chance, but to experience the terror that God unleashes upon the world…..?
@mikemiddleton53 That cannot be true. The difference between those who go in the Rapture and those who don't is belief in Jesus as Savior. All who hav placed their faith in Jesus's Finished work on the Cross for All their sins and accepted Him as Savior are Jesus's Bride. His Body! Jesus's whole Body will be Raptured. Period. Many will believe on Jesus after we are gone. They are the tribulation saints.
For by grace are you saved through faith.... seems logical the same way we are saved is the reason we are raptured.... Grace through faith....Not of works lest any man should boast... there will be absolutely no boasting going on in heaven... So if people are there because of personal merit (their desire for the Rapture) that seems like a contradiction
@summerg6412 Saved from the lake of fire not from tribulation. No one should be forced into going in the rapture if you aren’t ready to go. I’m very ready and pray I get to go in the first harvest!
I thank you for this! I love a good and grown up debate. For some reason I'm confused about the Christians that passed over the past 2,000 yrs that didn't get to go thru the Tribulation. I just can't get it. Can u explain it to me? Bc we are all n agreement that if ur a Christian who wants to go thru the Tribulation u will go thru it. Is that right and is that a lukewarm Christian? I feel if u are a Christian that thinks about Jesus' coming all the time and just cannot wait for Him to get here then you are what a bride should feel. You should just want to be w Him and I dont care about anything else other than getting others on the Ark. It's all I think about, and I hate it when Christians say we shouldn't keep asking Him to come quickly. Just be happy until He gets here. Godspeed from a TN farmwife
In my opinion. Those that didn't believe in christ these passed 2000yrs. Well be Reserected at the end to face the great white throne judgement and will either be standing in isle of sheep or goats. Judgement of there works. But those that died these passed 2000yrs. And were believers in christ will be Raptured as the dead in christ. With our Rapture.
If you believe you have to go through the tribulation to “do your part” or you have not fully given up the things of this world, do you truly believe that Jesus did it all? Is your trust in Him alone or are you trusting in a man or yourself that this world is where you would rather be. That is not turning (repenting) to Jesus, and that is the requirement for salvation. Lot’s wife loved Sodom. Her heart was not with God. God judges the heart. Does He know you? Have you called out to Him? Do you seek the Kingdom of Heaven?
I think the reason that a lot of people are in disagreement is due to their misunderstanding of the timing of Gods wrath. The Day of the Lord is a day that lasts a year. It is the last year of this 7 year period before Christ's Second Coming. It is also called the: *Year* of Recompense Day of Vengeance Day of Reckoning Day of Carnage Day of Distress Day of Disaster Day of Panic Day of Wrath It’s also the Day of Salvation (for the remnant) because they are snatched to safety (into the barn) prior to the start of this Day (year). The remnant are the gleanings. They miss the first rapture of the bride (pretrib) also known as the first fruits harvest and they also miss the second rapture of the church (midtrib) also known as the main white harvest. They will escape before Gods wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week.
Hi, im asking incase im misunderstanding your comment, Are you insinuating that there will be multiple rapture event occuring before the day of the wrath?
@@hedvixWillYes I am. The first fruits harvest (bride), the main white harvest (church) and the gleanings (remnant). The bride is harvested pretrib, the church is harvested @midtrib and the gleanings are snatched to safety into the Fathers barn before the Day of the Lord/the Day of wrath etc. which is the last year of Daniels 70th Week.
Since all the 'dead in Christ' are raptured, why the distinction from the 'alive in Christ'? Paul says 'those of us who are alive and left' - without qualification - He gave no warning that some would/might be left behind.
@@squirreljones3595 Revelation 20:4 is a reference to the Tribulation saints. - 1Thessalonians 4:14 - those who died 'in Christ' refers to all believers who have died since the day of Pentecost - all who are (although 'dead' physically) part of the body of Christ.
@@squirreljones3595 Not sure what you mean by 'first', but the letters of Paul preceded the Revelation given to the apostle John. There are no contradictions in Scripture.
We shouldnt be decieved as Christians. 😭 ... REPENT, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near. HOLY BIBLE Pray that you are WORTHY to escape those things that should come upon the WHOLE earth. (The Great/terrible tribulation!) If you are not right with the Lord, PRACTICING sin lifestyle, not sober, you may be LEFT BEHIND. 😢 5 of 10 Virgins in Matthew 25 were left behind. 😢
You will be left behind for trying to get right with God by your own works. Where is the blood of Christ in your comment? Nowhere. Remember matthew 7, they offered their "many and wonderful works" but Jesus said he never knew them. You think your works are better than those in that verse? I think not. Christ is 100% requirement. I rebuke you devil
I believe that there are people who love Jesus that are saved but instead of only believing in Grace by faith they begin work based as well. I believe that if the ones that are works base God will allow them to have to do works to prove their love for Christ. And we know that in the Tribulation people will have to prove their love opposed to the saved that trust in Grace through faith that will be removed from the earth prior to the Tribulation.
2Co 13:5 (AMP) - Test and evaluate yourselves to see whether you are in the faith and living your lives as [committed] believers. Examine yourselves [not me]! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves [by an ongoing experience] that Jesus Christ is in you-unless indeed you fail the test and are rejected as counterfeit?
Maybe the 144,000 are converted and saved before the tribulation starts and they want to help people during the tribulation, so Jesus allows them to stay behind or to be raptured and then come back down to help?
In Bride mentality -- Do you take the Messiah as your Groom right now with zero reservations? Are you ready to leave all your earthly possessions & relationships behind right now -- no hesitations? Yes?!? . . . Come on up!
I told Jesus that I will leave my family to go to be with him, even if it hurts. I love Jesus more than anything. My Creator, my Savior. ❤ I trust that God will remind them of everything I said before the rapture and I trust that he will comfort me. Without him I am nothing. There is nothing that I want in this world.
@jesusisourhope2023 my son is 9 and the other is 15. I don't have to abandon my children to love Jesus. All those who truly serve Christ will be with him in the end, but if I have a choice about helping my children or not, I am helping them.
I believe your children will be in the Rapture. Because they are at the age of accountability. And if 1 parent is a true believer in the lord. Then your family is saved.@@angelsawakening
To the contrary, Elisha was Elijah's 'understudy' - his apprentice. This scenario is similar to the ascension (rapture) of Jesus, whilst his 'apprentices' - the disciples - were left on earth. If you read the story, Elisha performed just as many miracles as did Elijah. There is nothing to suggest that he was 'lukewarm'. Elijah was particularly singled out for God's purposes, not because he was the only person who found favour in God's eyes. - I don't believe this is analogous to the Rapture of the Church (to miss God's wrath).
If you read the story of Elijah from 1Kings, God distinctly tells Elijah that he has reserved 7,000 who haven't bowed the knee to Baal. Elijah mistakenly believed that he was the only faithful man left - not so.
Understand the full purpose of the cross. It is finished. The saints sealed by faith are now sealed by the blood on the cross when Jesus went into the earth for 3 days
I agree with you Mike and I have been following Wayne for a while. I also recommend Sue Keith Ministries to learn about the 3 harvests. Thank you Mike from r putting this out there and I am happy to see that you are seeing the truth.
this live did nothing but sow confusion. I even returned and finished watching. This is not a video id ever reccommend. Im listening for the trumpet.
I totally agree like I have been left almost traumatised today I had nightmares last night, thinking how could I be saved and then have a possibility of going in the tribulation. I believed as long as I had 100% faith in Christ and his blood that I am saved but now repo Man who has been doing this for a long time is telling us otherwise. But I do have to say it's not on him it's on me for not understanding the scripture and having trust in the gospel I'm reading so the gospel he is reading is telling him that, and that is a worry
Everyone who is Saved will be going in the rapture. If you have accepted Jesus as your savior, trusting in what he did for you on the cross and trusting in his blood you are going in the rapture. We are the Church those who have accepted Christ and the Church will not be in the Tribulation. ❤️❤️🙏🙏
Exactly Josh. Thank you. There are a lot of comments here that are not right. The rapture is part of the Salvation package and we are sealed upon our belief in Jesus.
No one who puts their faith in Christ will be left behind to face God's wraith. Watching & believing in the Rapture is not a requirement for being Raptured. Only being covered by the Blood of Christ is.
Thank you Joseph. You are right
What if you’ve laid up your treasures here on
@@denisemcaskill4049Time will tell. Or lack thereof.
Wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week. It's the Day of the Lord- the day that lasts a year. It's the day of (year of) atonement. So yes, we are not destined for wrath but that doesn't mean many won't go through a portion of the Trib. The remnant (the gleanings) that did not make the second rapture (mid trib main harvest) will be snatched to the Fathers barn before this wrath is poured out. The day of the Lord is also the day of salvation to the remnant because they escape this wrath.
@@denisemcaskill4049 If someone is saved yet still loves this world, the Holy Spirit has not perfected the good work He began in them yet. All of us are at different stages in our walk with God (even though we are saved).
1 Thessalonians 5:9: "For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ".
Wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week. It’s the Day of the Lord- the day that lasts a year. It’s the day of (year of) atonement. So yes, we are not destined for wrath but that doesn’t mean many won’t go through a portion of the Trib. The remnant (the gleanings) that did not make the second rapture (mid trib main harvest) will be snatched to the Fathers barn before this wrath is poured out. The day of the Lord is also the day of salvation to the remnant because they escape this wrath.
Sealed = Saved. Once saved we go in the rapture - whether we are looking or not. It's not up to us to "decide" if we want to stay or leave in the rapture! On a deathbed some may say they're not ready to die but does that mean God relents and lets them stay a while longer just because they want to ? No. Those who have already died in Christ are saved and will be given new bodies in the rapture, those that didn't, won't. There are no tribulation saints from before the coming time of the tribulation. I am concerned with this video to be honest. It is complicating the simplicity of the gospel and splitting hairs. It's also creating unnecessary confusion for any young Christians.
I agree. This is very sad.
This concerns me. People are changing there views so much. Stay in the word family
There isn't anything wrong with thinking and then investigating what the word says.. its called being a Berean
Yes, I feel like scripture is getting too elaborated on, 'new' concepts...yikes, ahh this tent of flesh
There are no views changing simply reasoning, remembering the books will be opened in the end. Jesus Christ alone, His blood cleanses us your His
We are the body of Christ, the bride…We are not subject to God’s wrath.
Wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week. It's the Day of the Lord- the day that lasts a year. It's the day of (year of) atonement. So yes, we are not destined for wrath but that doesn't mean many won't go through a portion of the Trib. The remnant (the gleanings) that did not make the second rapture (mid trib main harvest) will be snatched to the Fathers barn before this wrath is poured out. The day of the Lord is also the day of salvation to the remnant because they escape this wrath.
If you're saved you're saved. Period. You have the Holy Spirit? You go in the rapture. Having said that, there are an awful lot of people who technically believe Jesus is real. They go to church and profess to be Christian, but never received the Holy Spirit. I think these are the Tribulation Saints.
I agree with you on this
100% correct 🎉
There will be tribulation Saints but they won't be saved until and during the tribulation ❤ when you were saved you are sealed & the Holy Spirit enters into you and when the Lord says "come up hither" I believe HE'S talking to the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit will be taken off the Earth with our bodies... we go straight up to meet the Lord in the air and then the Holy Spirit is not left on this Earth during the tribulation❤ that's how I understand it
The 5 virgins stayed behind (they do Not represent the unsaved).
The unsaved are not invited to the wedding.
So who are??
The luke warm Christian (the Tribulation saint)
@@EsthersDryBones333 I’ve been shown that the wedding doesn’t happen until the end of the millennium when the new heaven and new earth are ready and then the spirit and the bride say come to all the guests. That’s why the bride isn’t mentioned until the end of Revelation in the Bible
That should upset many of you… look it up
Perfected forever. And ...you are not your own. If you are saved, you absolutely are going on the rapture. Tribulation is for unbelievers. .....because they did not believe. Why complicate something that is so simple.
“NO” - born again is a new creation. You cannot be unborn. Once the Holy Spirit is SEALED in a believer that’s sealed. No one can unseal what God has sealed. The gates of hell shall not prevail against the church. The antichrist is given power to overcome “the saints”…NOT IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IN THE HOUSE! This would equate to “striking the stone twice”. The only people going through Jacob’s Trouble are Jews that did not accept Jesus and unbelievers. The tribulation saints are “the saints” that are not saved at the time of the rapture.
Mike, your line of thinking leads me to conclude that people that want to stay here are in love with this world and are not saved. They believe in themselves and works. They may “think” they are saved but only God knows the heart. It is with our heart we believe and with our mouth we confess. Everyone that goes in the tribulation did not truly believe and trust in Jesus. The have to do “their portion”
both the "lake of fire" and the "great tribulation" are representations of God's wrath, signifying the ultimate punishment for those who reject God and his teachings, with the lake of fire often seen as the final destination for the wicked after the tribulation period
Once you are saved, you are sealed. Ephesians 1:13-14 “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest (down payment) of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession (rapture), unto the praise of his glory.” 2 Corinthians 1:22 “Who hath also SEALED us, and given the earnest (down payment) of the Spirit in our hearts.” Ephesians 4:30 “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are SEALED unto the day of redemption.”, the Rapture. Romans 8:23 “And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.” No, saved people do not go into the Tribulation. Not according to Scripture. We’re going up!
These discussions require maturity in both faith and understanding and isn't for everyone. And that is completely OK!
Everyone is allowed to agree, disagree, and discuss. Let us come reason with each other. Name calling, low iq comments, and emotional outbursts do not enrich anyone who agrees or disagrees with the discussion and will not be tolerated.
Let us bless each other and learn. Listen, Learn, and Grow.
@@Spynebreaker 💯💯💯
Thankyou mate
Totally agree... some shouldn't watch this
Other channels talk about nothing controversial... they like to stay on an even keel; young Christians or people offended by discussions should watch those channels
Just boring sometimes ... 😂😂... but sweet !
@@rettaabba726Young Christians should study the Word and refrain from watching internet. There's a whole new generation of baby Christians who cannot rightly divide and whose only knowledge comes from the Internet. Do you not know that not all should be teachers? Or that teachers will be judged harshly?
The “bride” is in anticipation and eagerly waiting to see her Lord no matter the trials this world brings. They are ready any day for Him to come and seek Him more than what’s in this world. JOY!!!!! Truly filled with God and at peace in their hearts.
I didn’t watch it because who has time for an hour and a half video? But If they are preaching the true gospel then this video should’ve been about a minute and a half. Saved by grace, raptured by grace. You are either in Christ or you’re not, there is no in between.
There are a lot of confused Christians in the world though. Nowhere in the Bible, does it say to just accept Jesus into your heart and then you are saved. So many people do that and then continue to live the way that they have and they think that they are saved. They don’t spend time in the word and they don’t spend time with God and pray and they do not have fruit that shows they have changed. What about the fig tree that Jesus cursed because it did not bear any fruit? I am studying that right now trying to figure it out trying to figure out what is in between the lines because the Bible is a spirit filled book and there’s so much to learn from it.
@@amylynn2365 you’re right, nowhere does it say that. It says BELIEVE and you will be saved. Simple childlike faith in Christ alone. It is a free gift 🎁. God made it so simple, yet many feel the need to add to HIS finished work. “ not of yourselves it is the gift of God, not of works so that no one may boast. “
Agree with Ryan. A parallel is found at passover in the bible. when the angel of death looked for the blood of the lamb. Alot of christians glorify their works and point fingers at others but true believers are humble and glorify the finished work of Jesus
Who has time for a 90 min video ....look at the view count.
@@Bluettes-cm7wo must be nice lol. But they probably watched 5 minutes like I did. Do they count that?
Hey Mike! The tribulation is for the wrath of God & judgement on the world & to bring Israel back to God. We are not appointed unto wrath. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit. Therefore we will not go through God's wrath on the earth.
There going to miss the crown, NOT THE RAPTURE!!!
Your going to push people away in your teaching
You are right Kriston
Absolutely not why would Jesus put his bride through that?
The way i understand it is...
The bridegroom, Jesus is the head.
The bride, the church is Jesus's body.
The old testament people are called his friends.
The tribulation saints are servants in the temple.
A tribulation saint is not saved until they get saved after we are gone.
If right now someone is a believer of anything besides the gospel of grace, is not saved. They are believing in vain. Works, etc.
Only the sealed Holy Spirit believers are the bride.
Tribulation saints will not have the holy spirit indwelling in them. They must do works. That is not taking the mark and dying for their faith.
❤correct❤
God bless you
Spot on! Simplicity of the Gospel.
The Bride is Israel... the Body of Christ is the Church.
Christ is Messiah to the Jews but Lord and Saviour to the Church (both Jew and Gentile under the current dispensation of grace).
@B0SS330
2 Corinthians 11:2 - For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
@B0SS330
Isaiah 62:5
“For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.”
Revelation 4 is the key to understanding what is happening in the throne room of God before the seals are open. And it explains who is there specifically. Don’t miss this.
First we see the Lord himself seated on a throne.
Then we see 24 elders seated on their thrones, wearing white robes crowns this is a crucial detail, because they are physically wearing white robes and crowns; they have been given their resurrected bodies. Clothed in the righteousness of Jesus. These saints are a representation of the church leadership. The number 12 represents government and doubling it is a way of making it concrete or emphatic ( we can break this down more.)
To me the absolute nail here is this, rev 4:5 depicts the 7 fold spirit of God is in the throne room at this moment before the seals open.
7 is used to describe the spirit in Isaiah 11:2 with 7 characteristics, and 7 represents completeness or entirety. The entire Holy Spirit is in the throne room at this exact moment nowhere else in creation.
We are told all through scripture that the Spirit resides in us, and will never leave us nor forsake us. If He is in the throne room, we must be by default as well.
Revelation 4 clearly tells us that everyone endwelled with the Holy Spirit will be in the throne room of God to witness the opening of the scroll by our king, the Lamb of God.
Amen❤
Hallelujah Praise God 🙏💞😊👑
@ if we really want to divide and get into it John tells us elsewhere John 1:18 that no man has seen the father….
What John sees is a vision
Built for him by the spirit to describe and detail for us what the throne room will look like, the vision he saw of the Father was not actually the father tangible.
That being said, the key note of John’s vision was that the elders had physical bodies. The dead saints in the throne room today do not yet have physical bodies. The dead in Christ will rise first.
Apply logic to this and you will see that this is a vision of the throne room after the rapture.
@@squirreljones3595 this is so scattered and misleading I don’t even know where to begin. You haven’t stopped to consider what I said of rev 4. Which will cut down your entire stance here. God bless friend.
We are still on the first earth. Squirrel, you really have things messed up.
Greek Interlinear
Jhn 10:28 (KJV) - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Exactly, we are promised eternal life. The rapture, however, is a reward being offered to the last generation, to those who are wholly committed to Him. Salvation is free, rewards are earned. Many Christians are sleepy, most have never read through their Bible. they are eagerly waiting for next weekends football game. God will be with the Christians who miss the pre-trib rapture and help them through whatever they have to go through. He is faithful. There is also a mid-trib rapture at Rev 12:5.
I so hope we go this year!
.....this month!
There are no words to describe how much I want it to be right now this absolute nanosecond!!!!
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
- 1 Corinthians 15:51
The Christians in Corinth were terribly sinful, and the Apostle Paul had to deal with them in his first letter to the church in Corinth. Yet, in 1 Cor 15:51, near the end of his letter when Paul was revealing the mystery of the rapture, he included EVERYONE of those sinful Corinthians when he said "...we shall ALL be changed". All means ALL.
Herein is the truth: we are saved by grace and kept saved by grace, for we shall ALL be changed, putting on immortality, having received forgiveness of sins through His blood. The day of our rapture is our redemption.
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
- Ephesians 1:7
Why would you think the saved would go into the tribulation????????
Right, the saved are raptured whether they are watching or not.
Thank you brother Mike for this so important conversation. I had the same feeling about this subject, but finally it was said at loud
A saved person would have NO desire to go thru the tribulation...an unsaved person would..still of the 'works' mindset
All of christendom heretofore has been spared the tribulation, and there's no reason to think anyone who is saved at this time would be subjected to it. I believe if you are saved. You are saved from both the lake of fire and the tribulation, just as every other christian who has ever existed on the planet.
Why muddy the water?
Isn’t it better to say, if you are left behind, it’s because your faith was not in Jesus. But that you were trying to Use Him as Fire insurance. Or as a nice way to live, but never truly Surrendering Your life to Jesus in Faith.
Don’t Muddy the Water. This should be a question amongst believers only. Not people of weak faith either least you make them stumble also.
I believe if your saved your going,
The bema seat is where if your in the world you won’t get rewards
!absolutely, exactly.
Yes!!!! My sibs! Your/our crown for loving His appearing awaits us! Something to toss back unto Him in praise! The believers on Christ are not appointed to wrath!
Well what about the people who are killed instantly when the rapture happens? Planes falling out of the sky, sudden destruction and they will not escape.
God doesn't send anyone to hell. People either choose him or not. Period.
God is fair and just. Even to the people who died before. They all were given many chances to accept, but chose not to. Period.
You are thinking to deep into it. You are questioning God's character.
Some folks need more birth pains, I suppose?
Great video….. God has a wonderful plan for all 3 harvests! God told us the scriptures would be opened up to us in the last days. Read your bibles and pray for understanding. We still have so much to learn….. in fact, I think we will be learning for an eternity.
Hebrews 9:28 amplified version
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Even so it is that Christ, having been offered to take upon Himself and bear as a burden the sins of many once and [a]once for all, will appear a second time, not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin, but to bring to full salvation those who are [eagerly, constantly, and patiently] waiting for and expecting Him."
What if you are not eagerly waiting ?
A lot of Christians are living lukewarm. I would be very worried to be in this group, not rapture ready ‼️✝️🎺
@@andreastalcup137 💯
@@andreastalcup137 So what do you say about the 'dead in Christ' who may have died whilst going through a lukewarm season? They are ALL raptured, without exception.
@@andreastalcup137 we are all equally saved. Sin will affect rewards, but we are not subject to wrath.
I'm one of the speakers, should I be worried for reasoning? Jesus Christ saved me, I believe Him, I believe the Gospel. If we can't talk we will be silent, this may help some folks.
@@Todd-c2j ? Silent? What about mate? Sydney here.🇦🇺
How can someone saved go into tribulation? Because what if they end up taking the mark and can't go through being killed for Christ.
Repoman- it’s NOT a tough one , all that are saved are sealed period! They WILL ALL be raptured whether they like it or not! It’s based on the gospel NOT Elisha ! Grandma who’s not watching will be raptured! A new believer that hasn’t even been taught the rapture WILL be raptured! The Bible makes it clear , all that are saved have the Holy Spirit and are going to be raptured! All of us watching receive a crown , that’s the DIFFERENCE! Yes, the tribulation saints get a double portion because they get beheaded ! You are making it a guessing game when we know the simplicity of the gospel , do not complicate it with the rapture, especially in these final moments of time ! People do NOT need to be questioning their salvation! I love you but you are overthinking this , you need to step back and get back to the basic understanding of the one true gospel John 3:16❤️✝️
Thank you Brother Mike! Looking up! Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Acts 16:31 “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Colossians 1:14 “In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:” Salvation is obtained by simply believing in Jesus’ death (Blood sacrifice), burial and resurrection for payment of all your sins (past, present and future) with your whole heart.
Hi , I want to preface by saying that When I was "woken up" early this year about the rapture. The first thing that I was reminded was the Matthew25, the parable of the 10 virgin. 5 was wise with oil and 5 was foolish without oil filled lamp.
Most teaching of this says what the oil is supposed to be the holy spirit, so the wise-foolish represents the beleivers and unbeleivers.
I have a major problem with the above because it says that all 10 were "waiting" for the groom. Why would unbeleivers be waiting for Jesus to come back? They wouldn't. So my conclusion is that all 10 are the church and beleivers! Some are left behind when theyre not looking.
I personally beleive that "being saved" and "being rapture ready" are 2 different things
@@hedvixWill That is not what Paul taught.
@@LibbySlaughter101 Matthew 25 is parable told by Jesus, not Paul. In your understanding who are the 5 foolish virgins represents?
I'm all for that everyone is taken in the rapture, but as Mike said, will God drag everyone (kicking and screaming) who doesn't have the desire to be with Him?
@@hedvixWill I'm acquainted with the parable of the 10 virgins - I was referring to your assessment that only some believers would be raptured when I said that wasn't what Paul taught.
As to the parable itself, I believe that the foolish virgins were not believers. Jesus told the foolish virgins 'I NEVER knew you.' He wouldn't address a believer in this way. He knows and loves all believers. He said no one would snatch them from his hand. Remember, they had no oil - oil signifies the Holy Spirit. - No, Jesus won't 'drag' believers to Heaven, they will be raptured and will be glad that they were. The Shepherd knows what's best for his sheep and protects them from danger. Maranatha!
I agree on this ... the oil can't be the Holy Spirit
As someone said once ... the oil is the "eagerness for Jesus coming "
Yup
Exactly ❤
Psalms 43:5
Why are you in despair, my soul?
And why are you restless within me?
Wait for God, for I will again praise Him
For the help of His presence, my God.
Psalms 50:23
“He who offers a sacrifice of thanksgiving honors Me;
And to him who sets his way properly
I will show the salvation of God.”
The young Christian of today didn’t know the world we knew, this is just the way it always been for them, and they are getting married, having or wanting children and dreaming of buying a house etc. they don’t think things are “that” bad and don’t think Jesus is coming any time soon. That is what I am seeing. So what you’re saying they would all be left behind- that’s a terrifying thought.
When I feel the most the most unworthy, I’m my sleep, I feel Him
Terrific video, Mike. Most people who are commenting think God's wrath is poured out during the entire 7 years, not realizing that He doesn't begin to pour out His wrath until the 6th year of Daniel's 70th week. Since they don't understand this, they're having a hard time hearing that there will be many Christians missing the pre-trib rapture and end up experiencing the first 3.5 years of the trib. If only they knew that there is also a mid-trib rapture at Rev 12:5. That's when the entire church goes up, it's the main harvest.
The first fruits go up at pre-trib, they're the ones who have been wholly dedicated to God and understand what He's doing because they've studied Bible prophecy instead of spending all their spare time enjoying the world's entertainments. don't get discouraged, Mike. Keep teaching truth like this. Yes, you'll lose many subs but you need to wake people up with the truth!
I have heard friends of mine say that they want to be raptured out of here, but not just yet. They want to see a child born, a marriage, etc. I guess from what you are saying, that would be the person who would have to go through the tribulation.. Myself, I looking for His appearance every day and to be raptured out of here.
I KNOW!!! I just don't get that at all. What is wrong w these Christians!!
Mike 12:42 where is that at in scripture ? If not watching. Thankyou.
Jesus is the Head not us.
Yes WAYNE the grains -- barley and wheat are the bread; which IS THE body of Christ Hallelujah🎉❤
Ah yes, the WORST time in humanity according to God ISNT His Wrath.... ya ok.
Salvation is a birth. Once you’re born into the family, you are always in the family. (Exactly as when you were born of your mother). You receive the Holy Spirit the moment you get saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” This isn’t referring to water baptism. Water baptism is simply a picture of what occurs spiritually. John the Baptist clearly tells us this difference. Matthew 3:11 “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”
And all those born into the salvation family, go in the rapture
@ Indeed they do!
I will pray for everyone who watches this show.
Please pray for my unsaved family..
Time is running out!
1-Corinthians-Chapter-15 1-4
Romans-Chapter-3 23-28.
I hope to see you in heaven :)
What did the Lord HIMSELF say? JN 6:39 & 40, also verse 54. Jesus, Creator God has the final say! What did He say THREE TIMES??
Also, watch for ravening wolves in sheep's clothing who seek to discourage and sow division among the faithful.
GREAT VIDEO! One of my viewers notified me that you had Wayne on so I tuned in to your livestream. No offense, but my group doesn't watch date setters because we're watching everyday. Wayne's and my channels have taught the 3 harvests for years. I've made over 100 vids proving the 3 harvests; teaching who is in them, and why.
There is a pre-trib rapture of the bride. The saved, left behind Christians will have an outstanding ministry during the 1st half of Daniel's 70th week and an even more magnificent ministry once they're in they're glorified bodies when they go up at mid-trib. My channel teaches what the glorified bride will do and then what the glorified church will do.
Mike, I admire you for trying to figure out StreamYard while live. You've inspired me to make an attempt. Perhaps you and Wayne will be my first guests. 😆 But more importantly, Mike, I admire you for considering a different paradigm and showing your viewers that it's okay to change your prophetic interpretations. We're all learning new things so we all need to remain humble like you. Joy to you!
Dear Sue I have learned so much from your ministry and the 3 harvests.❤
Both Sue and Wayne teach the 3 harvests in such an understandable way. All the harvests are important and valued by God. He loves all of us and has a plan for us that is good! I so appreciate your teachings Sister Sue.
@ I agree Lynn both Wayne and Sue are great teachers of the 3 harvests.
Question: I’m tracking with you Mike except for where does the different dispensations come into play? Believers were “saved” differently per each dispensation. (Robert Breaker I found explains it best). Ex: works were a part b4 Jesus’ death on the cross. Brides and Trib saints were not spoken of b4 Jesus’ shed blood.
Sue Keith sent me to your channel. This video is helpful to the prophetic community. It shows that you, Wayne, Sue and I are aligning more and more with each other on what the prophecies reveal. It's good to see that there's another channel who is not stuck in the one rapture paradigm. Traditions have been very blinding. Thanks for your diligence in the Word.
HARD PRAYER TO PRAY LORD JESUS FORGIVE THERE UNBELIEF DISSOLVE UNBELIEF IN YOUR BLOOD. THANK YOU MY KING
I watched your video on departure Heaven. I want you to try to think about what your words did. You made the statement that saved people go to the tribulation, because they need to be more refined. You tell everyone that you are saved by the blood, and once you're saved you're always saved. Your statement now though says that I have to work a bit more to refine myself more so that I can be saved, so I go home in the rapture and don't have to go through the tribulation. Now the gospel is saved by works. To someone that doesn't understand the scripture this is something that could cause mass doubt in someone's mind, . I don't want to judge you because that's not right but I'll be honest with you, for a split second there , I actually felt confused, I was like hang on a minute I've been waiting for the rapture because I'm saved but now there's a possibility there's something about me that needs more refining I may have to go through the tribulation I wonder how many other people thought the same thing. I think you're under spiritual attack and I think it's making you think that that's what I think is happening otherwise, perhaps you should be batting for the other team the one that believes in works an actions as a means to be saved just saying much love to you❤
No, now is not the time to be fuzzy. There are a TON of people who believe they are Christian for all sorts of reasons. Jesus does not say "I knew you a little while, but then I forgot you. He says "I NEVER KNEW YOU." This is a post Trib/mid Trib argument. Jesus said in Matthew 24. It will be like NOOO other time in the history.
In Hebrews, Paul's says "Until the full number of Gentiles come in"
In Revelation it says of the "Tribulation saints" they can't be numbered. This discussion is misguided. The whole 7 years is the wrath of God.
Because 1/4 of the population die. Please please don't let new Christians see this.
Actually, He says "the fulness of the Gentiles" that means a cup that is "full" of their iniquity. When that cup is full, He is going to pour it out on them and they will get to drink it. Their iniquity won't taste very good to them. What they sowed, they will reap. Read that entire passage, it isn't talking about a rapture.
The entire tribulation is wrath intensifying in severity. The tribulation saints are getting their palms by 7:9 and before the half hour of silence. After this, the greatest wrath is poured out on those whose names are NOT written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
Mike, why the hand-wringing about apparent “fairness” in treatment comparing trib-saints vs age-of-grace / non-saved people who naturally died before the rapture? Both categories arguably had an equal chance to choose or reject Jesus during natural life. The fact that some unbelievers will stay naturally alive on earth across the boundary of the rapture event (missing the rapture) but having a destiny to become trib saints, does not in any way negate the “fairness” in opportunity of all prior age-of-grace unbelievers who died without having chosen Jesus.
Yes, the rapture and its aftermath will be chaotic for those left behind and will drive many (a multitude no man can count) to drop to their knees, cast off the world and choose Jesus - that’s the point! Hard to argue that pre-rapture lost who naturally died did not somehow receive compete fairness in opportunity in God’s economy across ages. The issue is not just about ultimately avoiding the Lake of Fire - there is a special opportunity for a discrete group of those “alive who remain” believers to avoid the Tribulation and God’s wrath. Remember - Those who naturally died in Christ before the rapture also avoid the Tribulation… how does that create any conflict in fairness vs unbelievers by choice who rejected Jesus across all time?
The ones that believe are going in the rapture the ones during the tribulation did not believe before the rapture they believed after the Rapture they will have to go by works we went in the Rapture because we go by faith not works
Repoman64 what is the Bible verse that says: those not waiting for the return of the Lord be counted as the wicked, you mentioned? I'm trying to find it, I cannot. Pls answer.
@@StandinginArmorofGod1973 revelation 3:3 Galatians 5:21 Roman’s 13:13. Inheritance doesn’t mean salvation. It means to be the bride. Many not watching and worrying about the cares of this world will be saved and taken to heaven in seal 6.
@repoman6464 I really enjoy your videos and thank you for the spiritual food. I will meet you in Heaven.
My understanding regarding salvation in the OT is that everyone, when they died, went to hades; those who believed in God went to the paradise section while all others went to the torment side. Those in the torment side had a second chance when Jesus revealed Himself to them when He died. All who believed received the HS at Pentecost and ascended Spiritually at that time. None of the dead in Christ have new bodies yet, therefore salvation is not yet complete for anyone. So OT believers did not receive the first fruits of salvation until Pentecost, and salvation is no more complete for them than salvation for those who died in Christ after Pentecost.
Before Jesus sent the comforter, the Holy Spirit could come and go. Once the Tribulation clock starts ticking, the Age of Grace will be over. To me, there’s a fine line between a lukewarm and tare. People should forgive everyone and themselves plus get right with the Lord. A large number of people are probably going to perish within one hour/day of the rapture.
Working in the world, you'll go in the tribulation? What?
I feel like you're promoting the tribulation. Deceptive spirit that is purposely confusing people and making them worry.
On Prophecy Unfolding, Henry Gruver mentioned Ps 37. The saints will be led by the Holy Spirit to certain cities and locations where they will be protected from jets, soldiers. In one instance he saw a volcano erupt and the lava protected them from tanks etc. While the evil will be led to go to cities marked for destruction.
This is total nonesense! Sorry! You are making a case of something that clearly doesn’t talk about the rapture or the tribulation! The scripture say that Jesus said all that the father has given me I will loose none!! HE SAVES HE KEEPS US SAVED AND HE KEEPS HIS FROM THE HOUR OF TRIAL. Period.
Wayne from the overcomes is all over the place and shouldn’t be listened to imo.
It isn’t talking about church and tribulation saints it’s always between the church and Israel - the saints are the Jews! Different program for the church and the Jews not the church and the church!
I believe Wayne's testimony and the experience he had. However, that does not make what he teaches and says infallible. He is a human just like the rest of us and it is my personal belief that he is way off base on this subject in particular. Wayne refences a lot of "old Testament" for his argument but seems to forget that the "church" was not even created yet..it was still a mystery until it was slowly revealed by Jesus, his disciples and Paul. The church and the Jews are two separate entities. The Church (Jesus Body) will absolutely not be here for the tribulation. Jesus will not pour out wrath upon himself (his body) He took that on the cross for us. I believe Wayne truly had an amazing experience with the lord but before that experience even he said he was only a Christian for "10 days". Some of us have been deep in the word for over 50 years. Saying that believers can go into the tribulation does nothing but cause fear and anxiety towards new believers in Christ. This is the opposite of what God intended.
Sleepy time, that was an excellent post. Thank you
Koru, you are right. No believer is being left behind to go through the tribulation. We all have some type of bad theology or misconceptions, but we are sealed until the day of redemption which is the rapture. Even those who are not watching for the rapture. This type of video is confusing and discouraging for the believer who doesn't know the truth about their own salvation and being sealed by the Holy Spirit..
@@squirreljones3595 Please read the book of Daniel for confirmation regarding the 'Tribulation'.
It is called 'Jacob's Trouble' - It is God's final dealing with the Jews, who ultimately (the remnant left) recognise Jesus as their true Messiah. Yes the Gentiles are also subject to God's wrath but the Tribulation centres around the Jews, thus the reference by Jesus to the Antichrist and the book of Daniel in Matthew 24.
Aren’t the ones under the alter in heaven the tribulation saints? How long until you avenge our deaths? Asking
Yes, I believe those are the tribulation saints.
I think the majority of people forget that we're basically children to God. I dont think we can come close to grasping most things, tbh.
Yes
It's great to have discussions like that so that everyone can learn.
💥💥Something occurred to me MIKE: The people alive now, not saved, have an opportunity during the 7 Year Tribulation to 'repent' and get saved. A 2nd chance so to speak. Those who died in the past 2,000 year and before don't have that '2ND CHANCE' to be saved like those who witnessed the Rapture and realized they should have been saved prior. 😉😉
I thought of that also, but then remembered that each person, as long as they have breath, had the opportunity to get saved. They may not have had the 'benefit' of witnessing the rapture, but neither have we. Most had the opportunity to read the Bible and seek the Truth (same as us). That is faith; we have not seen, yet we believe. Those who want/need proof before they truly believe will suffer the consequences in a different dispensation.
Awesome, Brother Todd! And Wayne, and Valley Watchman... Good to see all of you. Great video, nice forum. God bless.
Yes.
What gets me is the bible says some people will be resurrected to everlasting joy, but some to everlasting contempt. So will everyone that has died get resurrected but those that lived their lives as an unbelieving person be resurrected not to be saved, or a second chance, but to experience the terror that God unleashes upon the world…..?
Wayne bases so much of his opinion on emotion...
It's more appealing to go into the tribulation?
Right. It is not.
Could yall share the links to Valley Watchmen and Brother Todd Channels please? ❤
I’m done on utube can’t post videos I’m not sure for how long❤
So…and now? How can we stay in touch with you?
Keep doing rumble. No need to watch what you say like on censortube, lol, Praise King Jesus!
So, if i understand, the difference between the bride and the tribulation saints is simply the desire to go home?
@mikemiddleton53
That cannot be true. The difference between those who go in the Rapture and those who don't is belief in Jesus as Savior. All who hav placed their faith in Jesus's Finished work on the Cross for All their sins and accepted Him as Savior are Jesus's Bride. His Body! Jesus's whole Body will be Raptured. Period. Many will believe on Jesus after we are gone. They are the tribulation saints.
For by grace are you saved through faith....
seems logical the same way we are saved is the reason we are raptured.... Grace through faith....Not of works lest any man should boast...
there will be absolutely no boasting going on in heaven... So if people are there because of personal merit (their desire for the Rapture) that seems like a contradiction
@summerg6412 Saved from the lake of fire not from tribulation. No one should be forced into going in the rapture if you aren’t ready to go. I’m very ready and pray I get to go in the first harvest!
@@nwe2009Amen it goes hand in hand 🙏💞😊👑
@summerg6412 who’s boasting?
Watched ' temple 2030' and bought the book. What do you think of the idea that Jesus was conceived on Pentecost?
I thank you for this! I love a good and grown up debate. For some reason I'm confused about the Christians that passed over the past 2,000 yrs that didn't get to go thru the Tribulation. I just can't get it. Can u explain it to me? Bc we are all n agreement that if ur a Christian who wants to go thru the Tribulation u will go thru it. Is that right and is that a lukewarm Christian? I feel if u are a Christian that thinks about Jesus' coming all the time and just cannot wait for Him to get here then you are what a bride should feel. You should just want to be w Him and I dont care about anything else other than getting others on the Ark. It's all I think about, and I hate it when Christians say we shouldn't keep asking Him to come quickly. Just be happy until He gets here. Godspeed from a TN farmwife
In my opinion. Those that didn't believe in christ these passed 2000yrs. Well be Reserected at the end to face the great white throne judgement and will either be standing in isle of sheep or goats. Judgement of there works. But those that died these passed 2000yrs. And were believers in christ will be Raptured as the dead in christ. With our Rapture.
If you believe you have to go through the tribulation to “do your part” or you have not fully given up the things of this world, do you truly believe that Jesus did it all? Is your trust in Him alone or are you trusting in a man or yourself that this world is where you would rather be. That is not turning (repenting) to Jesus, and that is the requirement for salvation. Lot’s wife loved Sodom. Her heart was not with God. God judges the heart. Does He know you? Have you called out to Him? Do you seek the Kingdom of Heaven?
I think the reason that a lot of people are in disagreement is due to their misunderstanding of the timing of Gods wrath.
The Day of the Lord is a day that lasts a year. It is the last year of this 7 year period before Christ's Second Coming.
It is also called the:
*Year* of Recompense
Day of Vengeance
Day of Reckoning
Day of Carnage
Day of Distress
Day of Disaster
Day of Panic
Day of Wrath
It’s also the Day of Salvation (for the remnant) because they are snatched to safety (into the barn) prior to the start of this Day (year).
The remnant are the gleanings. They miss the first rapture of the bride (pretrib) also known as the first fruits harvest and they also miss the second rapture of the church (midtrib) also known as the main white harvest. They will escape before Gods wrath is poured out on the last year of Daniels 70th Week.
Hi, im asking incase im misunderstanding your comment, Are you insinuating that there will be multiple rapture event occuring before the day of the wrath?
@@hedvixWillYes I am. The first fruits harvest (bride), the main white harvest (church) and the gleanings (remnant). The bride is harvested pretrib, the church is harvested @midtrib and the gleanings are snatched to safety into the Fathers barn before the Day of the Lord/the Day of wrath etc. which is the last year of Daniels 70th Week.
@@ProphecywithKristen Hi, thanks for the kind reply, are you able to point me to a video somewhere for me to study on this deeper?
@@hedvixWill yes, there is a pre-trib rapture, a mid-trib rapture, and a pre-wrath rapture
Since all the 'dead in Christ' are raptured, why the distinction from the 'alive in Christ'? Paul says 'those of us who are alive and left' - without qualification - He gave no warning that some would/might be left behind.
I was just thinking this myself.
@@squirreljones3595 Revelation 20:4 is a reference to the Tribulation saints. - 1Thessalonians 4:14 - those who died 'in Christ' refers to all believers who have died since the day of Pentecost - all who are (although 'dead' physically) part of the body of Christ.
@@squirreljones3595 Not sure what you mean by 'first', but the letters of Paul preceded the Revelation given to the apostle John. There are no contradictions in Scripture.
We shouldnt be decieved as Christians. 😭 ...
REPENT, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near. HOLY BIBLE
Pray that you are WORTHY to escape those things that should come upon the WHOLE earth. (The Great/terrible tribulation!)
If you are not right with the Lord, PRACTICING sin lifestyle, not sober, you may be LEFT BEHIND. 😢 5 of 10 Virgins in Matthew 25 were left behind. 😢
You will be left behind for trying to get right with God by your own works. Where is the blood of Christ in your comment? Nowhere. Remember matthew 7, they offered their "many and wonderful works" but Jesus said he never knew them.
You think your works are better than those in that verse? I think not. Christ is 100% requirement. I rebuke you devil
What is considered backsliding? Like smoking weed and cigarettes is backsliding probably, right?
I believe that there are people who love Jesus that are saved but instead of only believing in Grace by faith they begin work based as well. I believe that if the ones that are works base God will allow them to have to do works to prove their love for Christ. And we know that in the Tribulation people will have to prove their love opposed to the saved that trust in Grace through faith that will be removed from the earth prior to the Tribulation.
2Co 13:5 (AMP) -
Test and evaluate yourselves to see whether you are in the faith and living your lives as [committed] believers. Examine yourselves [not me]! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves [by an ongoing experience] that Jesus Christ is in you-unless indeed you fail the test and are rejected as counterfeit?
Maybe the 144,000 are converted and saved before the tribulation starts and they want to help people during the tribulation, so Jesus allows them to stay behind or to be raptured and then come back down to help?
Bummer! Can’t hear Wayne!!
In Bride mentality -- Do you take the Messiah as your Groom right now with zero reservations? Are you ready to leave all your earthly possessions & relationships behind right now -- no hesitations? Yes?!? . . . Come on up!
I am looking for Christ's return, I have been purifying myself, but if my son doesn't get raptured, I have asked God to leave me here with him.
I told Jesus that I will leave my family to go to be with him, even if it hurts. I love Jesus more than anything. My Creator, my Savior. ❤ I trust that God will remind them of everything I said before the rapture and I trust that he will comfort me. Without him I am nothing. There is nothing that I want in this world.
@jesusisourhope2023 my son is 9 and the other is 15. I don't have to abandon my children to love Jesus. All those who truly serve Christ will be with him in the end, but if I have a choice about helping my children or not, I am helping them.
@ I understand. My comment was not a criticism. I just shared how I personally see it. God bless you ❤️
I believe your children will be in the Rapture. Because they are at the age of accountability. And if 1 parent is a true believer in the lord. Then your family is saved.@@angelsawakening
@@jesusisourhope2023 thank you❤️. God bless you too. ✝️❤️
Well now you did it. Captain Kelly dedicated a whole new video just for you Repo. 😂
Not like we didn't see that one coming after watching him lurking in the chat and firing off his flaming darts at everyone in the live. Sad.
What is he? Jealous of the other watchmen? He specifically seems to have it in for Mike. @@wearetheovercomers
@@jobeth68 Yeah, I'm thinking he has a personality disorder lol!
Did you know if you use the full moon calender,. 11/11/2031 is also Kislev 11. So 11/11 is also 9/11. More 11s. They're popping up everywhere.
Honestly the baptized part is true you have to be born again in both body and water
Eph.1:13 sealed until the day of redemption ! So what is the day of redemption? ….rapture?
100% TODD we are yearning for Jesus and they are yearning to stay
I’m not sure.. do you have your lamp filled with oil? I think that’s what matters
do you? prove to me you do.
I think Elisha was saved but he was lukewarm. He was not hot or cold
To the contrary, Elisha was Elijah's 'understudy' - his apprentice. This scenario is similar to the ascension (rapture) of Jesus, whilst his 'apprentices' - the disciples - were left on earth. If you read the story, Elisha performed just as many miracles as did Elijah. There is nothing to suggest that he was 'lukewarm'. Elijah was particularly singled out for God's purposes, not because he was the only person who found favour in God's eyes. - I don't believe this is analogous to the Rapture of the Church (to miss God's wrath).
If you read the story of Elijah from 1Kings, God distinctly tells Elijah that he has reserved 7,000 who haven't bowed the knee to Baal. Elijah mistakenly believed that he was the only faithful man left - not so.
The two witnesses.
Ephesians4:8
Understand the full purpose of the cross. It is finished. The saints sealed by faith are now sealed by the blood on the cross when Jesus went into the earth for 3 days
I agree with you Mike and I have been following Wayne for a while. I also recommend Sue Keith Ministries to learn about the 3 harvests. Thank you Mike from r putting this out there and I am happy to see that you are seeing the truth.
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