Excuse me?..... not the place, i'm afraid... If somehow that has something to do with shooting, I'm all ears... if not, then politics are found elsewhere. Cheers.
The odd anomaly happens from time to time... the rifle is fine.... after thousands of rounds, if there is one little case rupture on highly used brass, I'm OK with that.
Blows my mind that this channel gets so few views and likes. Such great highly informative and entertaining content. However I do have one massive issue with the channel as a whole, that being i keep buying Enfields and piles of .303 after watching videos!
i agree with the views, but the content exactly mainstream (or even remotely close to it). if you compare like to view ratio it is really high even when compared to some other firearms channels known for high quality content.
Reece Burckhard I agree, he's got a no-nonsense style that is at odds with most gun channels on the web that are all cliched gun-porn. I'd rank his videos alongside Hickok45 & Iraqveteran8888, albeit with different presentation. You LEARN something here, plus he's a bloody good story teller, not just watch how good someone thinks he looks with a gun in his hand. One channel (no names mentioned) reviewed a vintage rifle I was thinking of buying & it turned out to be a 45 mins Stream Of Consciousness, including the non gun subject of his fiance & the same handful of info repeated over & over again. Likes? OH! Thousands. But that's the internet for you. Their loss, our gain.
Going to be honest. When I first found your videos, I was on the fence with them. But the more I realized I had a thing for older guns, the more and more I loved your channel. Keep up the good work
Great video, I’m ex British Army, really interesting how the lessons learnt from the Boer war affected musketry in subsequent years, Spion Kop, was a salutary lesson. If I recall the BEF were excellent marksmen, but with Kitcheners battalions later on, the marksmanship was less so? Subbed!!!!
Spion Kop was indeed a lesson learnt but I believe that it was a lesson learnt in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory... :-) Thank you for the subby!
Seriously love your channel sir! The amount of effort you put into period clothing and gear plus the way you present your videos make this one of the best YT channels out there. Thank you! 🇨🇦🇬🇧
Great video! I have always liked the SMLE, but they're getting harder to find in the US. One day. As a historian, I especially appreciate your attention to detail concerning the kit and musketry of the era. I specifically studied African and African-American history at school, with particular emphasis paid to Southern Africa during the colonial period. When I'm eventually back in the classroom again, I may show some of these videos in lessons, if that's all right, in the hopes of making the history seem more real. Thanks again for all of your hard work.
I have a 1919 MK III SMLE. Love it. Every time I take it to the range, people come over to see it and ask to shoot a few rounds. Really enjoy all your videos, keep it up!
Amazing video! This is such a high quality channel all over! From the high fedelity information to the attention to prcedure in the musketry! This channel ought to be an educational rescource for anyone reasearching vintage warfare!
I enjoy your crisp and well disciplined presentations. In a more wry observation, I also enjoy how you don't need to show us how empty your rifle that you already know to be clear is. Seriously. Thank you.
Really enjoying your stuff. The tests look practical and even likely in the main. And I'm enjoying getting perspective over the different campaigns, periods, technologies. Cheers.
@@britishmuzzleloaders I've read a fair bit of the historical military campaigns you cover. But I am very much enjoying how you tie them in along with the arms development and changes in doctrine. Cheers good man.
@@Mikepower1978 The musketry side of things is so rarely covered.. I enjoy placing the events in the context of the weaponry which answers a lot of questions that straight history often doesn't.... Hopefully you do too!.. :-)
@@britishmuzzleloadersoh I'm enjoying it all right. I have been watching forgotten weapons for a long time not because I am so much mechanically minded but because of the geo political historical context of the arms technology and its transference, application if any and societal impact. Your productions extend my knowledge in this area. Arms technology and global societies are intrinsically linked don't you think? It's all quite fascinating.
I would love to do a "Lee Metford and the 1892 Krag Jorgensen" shoot with you to compare contemporary rifles from across the pond. In full uniform, of course. I absolutely love these videos you are making.
That's an excellent point. The Americans also had to suffer single loading their Krags facing charger loading Mausers and defeated the Spanish handily without resorting to the methods adopted by the British so it'd be only fair to say the quality of the soldiers is a critical factor not just their rifles. Highly motivated Boer volunteers will put up much stiffer resistance than unmotivated Spanish conscripts
Another excellent video. I appreciate all the work that goes in to these presentations. Not just the time to get out set up, shoot, and break down, but in the research and the video editing to create a such a nicely finished product. Keep up the good work.
Great channel! Subscribed! A bit after my time (hence my profile picture haha). An excellent all encompassing examination of kit and philosophies. Cheers from NYC!
Just finished. Had some chores to take care of so it took a few hours to watch, But it was great! My dog, who LOVES your videos(his name is Sundance) loved it as well. Thanks again!
Excellent. The Mk VI ammo you showed early on is in the later, Mk VII charger, the earlier charger featured different cutouts. Oh, and it's correctly called a "charger guide", not a charger bridge.
Hi there. Glad you enjoyed it. One must use the resources at hand..... :-) Regarding the correct terminology, as with most things, the truth is in the middle... It's a "Bridge Charger Guide" from the the MR 1909(14). Cheers.
britishmuzzleloaders yes, its a great series, and if I can find one of my mk VI chargers, I'll take a picture for you. In practice, it was always called a charger guide. My Dad was in the 60th, before the war. Gun dealer post war, and all everyone ever called it was that. My personal guns were a no 5, and one of those broomhandle mausers. My Dad actually bedded in the no 1 used by the Queens Cup winner in '62. Opens sights, 1,000 yds and almost all thru the same hole. I distinctly remember, in 1963, a Luger cost £12. Can't remember any other prices, except at Bisley I used to get money collecting the empties during the Annual meeting.
This is such a great channel it's a shame UA-cam hates firearms channels and wont promote them especially since UA-cam is a American company with our 2nd amendment
An excellent production, very well done. Perhaps the sights had something to do with the slight variation in the time for the first 9 shots? Maybe it was just the human factor. Anyway, it's an amazing video.
nicely done, was unaware that this period of colonial Britain was the cause of this movement to the smle, i had thought was simple progression of technology. thanks for the education.
Hello Rob. Great video like always for a Commonwealth gun lover that I am. Could you one day make us a video about the Charger Long Lee enfield please ? Best regard. A French collector and shooter.
You ask if someone has a boer mauser. Love history but not a real an expert by any means, but does a 1895 chiliean mauser count. As well I live in southern Ab. Would love to see you do a video.
Interesting. Thanks for the experiment. As a decorated SMLE .303 marksman/sniper, I rarely used charger clips. I always had at least 5 fully loaded replacement magazines prepared, in my webbing. My observer had another 10 magazines. He handed the loaded magazines to right under the loading-point, and recovered the empties for me at the same time. 160 rounds at hand, in an instant. A machine-gun. The only real peril was over-heating. Replacing a magazine of 10 rounds, (or 11 as some magazines could hold, depending on their spring), is so much faster than inserting two clips that it is astonishing! Try it for yourself, if you have the surplus magazines.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Only when I had no other options. I used stripper-clips to pre-load magazines, which I then stored in my webbing. But mostly, back in camp, I loaded the mags by hand, one cartridge at a time.
Can u shed some light on the capability of the Egyptian Remington rifles that fell into the hands of the Dervish in 1884 during the Sudan campaign as compared to the Martini-Henry? Writing up a miniature Wargame scenario for my site on battlebook.com. Thanx.
That will show Kaiser Bill! I know there were reasons and the same was true in most armies but I still find it surprising how long it took after the invention of repeating rifles for them to become standard issue.
@@britishmuzzleloaders True. Come to think of it the telephone was invented in 1870 but it took another 129 years before the Civil Procedure Rules 1999 permitted court hearings to be held by telephone in England and Wales, which is even slower progress.
Interesting video. I particularly liked the way you related the weapons to historic events and how the weapons impacted outcomes. I would be interested if anyone knows whether your method of reaching back for rounds is how soldiers were trained. Your head comes up and you have to look back. Not ideal. Also, your Sgt would have stomped down that left heel you have sticking up. :0
If you would like to know how soldiers were trained, then there are relevant videos on the Firing Exercise (of the Metford) and a whole series on musketry with the SMLE.
Absolutely superb description and analysis throughout. It seems, through your own analysis, that you don't think that we British sent you Canadians into battle with some bad weapons (note added in posting, which the Canadians mostly manufactured for themselves). If anything it seems you appreciate them more than we did...
Not quite sure of what you are talking about...this video does not pertain to anything about Canadian manufactured rifles... Canada used the Magazine Lee Enfield in the Boer War, just like the British Army. The SMLE was adopted eventually by the CEF in the Great War... The choice to use the Ross (the only Canadian manufactured rifle in this era) was Canada's, not Britain's, though due to reasons that could have been mitigated by allowing licensing of the MLE design...
Have you ever shot ammo that came packed in the original stripper clips? I have seen lots of videos of people reloading with clipper and they are always very slick. My only experience with clips is loading FN mags with 5 rd stripper clips and a magazine charging tool, and they weren't slick at all. In fact they were so stiff we just took the rounds of the clips and loaded them singly because it was easier.
I have indeed... this was old surplus ammunition that was corroded green in some cases and showing rust on the chargers in others. Original, yes, indicative of the state on issue?.... not really... they cleaned up nicely.... and are the ones I use to this day.
keith moore - the thing is, they are intended to be one use then garbage. It would be interesting to know if people saved used clips, lubed them, and loosened them up for reuse. I can see doing that if you are concerned about fast reloads, because new, never used clips in my experience don't work all that well.
U S Brig General Anson Mills obtained the patent for the canvas cartridge belt. Both the US and British armies rejected it in favor of the standard cartridge case. The Boers however obtained a shipment from the US and used the web gear effectively against the British. This changed the minds of the two armies and web gear was used after the Boer War. (My Story by Anson Mills, 1918).
Actually, the British Army was wary of the use of webbing... this was partly due to incorrect assumptions and views taken out of context... this is why they opted for brown leather (P1903 Equipment) when first breaking away from buff leather equipment, post Boer War.
To a point... I think that you wouldn't see much of a difference in accuracy, but in the charger loading... that said, the SMLE loaded with five rounds at a time, would be somewhat similar... Regardless, a 1895 Mauser would make for a good video.. nothing like having the proper thing for the job of comparison...
It's not a "kepi"... it's a covered Kilmarnock. More info in Part One of the "Kit" series, if you are interested. For foreign service helmets, see many, many other videos on the Channel.
Although I did have the opportunity to shoot a Lee Enfield in the cadets in the early 80s, I certainly appreciated having the SLR for the amount of fire power that it could put down range.
Wiki has already done that.... have you heard of that website? Sorry, I'm not going to sit and type out what would amount to paragraphs of information when it is at your fingertips. Interesting topic though! Cheers.
I seem to recall reading that one of the problems with the British rifle vs the Boer's Mausers was that the British had made a change to the 303 ammo but had failed to make the necessary changes to the sights. Hence a lot of 303 rounds were fired but simply missed. Does anyone know if this is correct?
Make no mistake, there was not one point in particular that was the root of all problems... Sighting of the MLE was indeed a problem... not so with the Lee Metford, which was also used in SA.... The point here, is that as far as generating firepower goes, the most significant advantage was had by having the ability to load with chargers.
It was withdrawn almost as soon as it was issued (read; never used in anger)... seems like a great idea today, but not the doctrine that was chosen back then...
im new to your channel, got here via forgotten weapons. i like it a lot. I am British, you sound mildly North American. would love to understand your interest in British arms, Im going with Canadian at the moment?
I am Canadian... As 19th and early 20th century Canadian arms were 90% British ones, and my first interest was the muzzleloading rifles of the 1860s,.... well,.... that's how the Channel got it's name... Couldn't really call it Canadianmuzzleloaders... as they weren't...
I know that this may be a bit beyond the scope of focus for this channel, but would it be possible to talk a little bit about Martini-Henry copies and their differences? (Kabul arsenal variants, the Nepal cache Gahendra, ect).
Hi Rob, another great video. I was wondering if you ever tried dropping cast bullets into cold water straight from the mold? I use Lino type same as you and I’ve found doing this method tightened my group size at 100 yards. Doesn’t work with everything, Made little difference with my 30/06 P17 but with my 1895 7x57 Mauser and my .303 SMLE it really improved my average group size. Might be worth trying ? Ps don’t have the bucket of cold water to close to your casting pot! Made that mistake on the first go, never again !!
Thanks Mike. I have used water in the past but didn't see any advantage with the linotype. Certainly one of those things that "if it works, then do it!", I'd say.
Another great video! I really appreciate these. The systematic approach to particular topics make me feel like I’m attending some type of course on British firearms.... which is a good thing 😊
Would you be able to discuss the equipment used by the Boers? I know they were more of a militia/citizen fighting force and probably didn't have too much standardized gear. However, I have seen a lot of photos of their bandoliers and such and I can not seem to find the exact models I see in the pictures.
Thank you. Yes, I believe I mentioned that in the video. Have a look at the 303 reloading video on the Channel if you are interested in the whole process.
Was it standard practice at the time to load and fire one round at a time after emptying the magazine? I would think it would be more efficient to load as many as you could hold in your hand before firing again?
Was it standard doctrine to reload only with 5 from the charger during a sustained fire event or is that just for the musketry practices? It see,pms to defeat the advantage of the larger magazine. Also, I remember reading that soldiers were expect to refasten the pouch or bandoleer pocket after removing a charger. Was that time included in this demonstration?
Yes it was... both in the musketry instruction, the annual qualification and in doctrine.... In the field, the magazine would have ten rounds in it... it actually is easier to charge five at a time rather than pushing ten into the mag... hence the technique used in this video... There is no specific indication in the Annual qualification for the SMLE (1914) to refasten the pouch, but in the description of the "Load" drill there is...
Excellent information, well presented, very good camera work. (I don't care about the second upload). How long of preparation and execution time does a video like this will take?
Thank you for the kind words... Time of production,..... let's see... a trip to the woods,.... an afternoon of filming..... a trip back home,... then (and this is an easy stye of video to edit) about 12 hours spread out over a week to edit and add the voice over and music.... not to mention the time to make the ammo, pack the kit and camera equipment, targets and such.... The type of stuff I do, takes a hell of a long time to produce...
Hey Rob! I was curious as to how you are able to use chargers with your neck sized reloads. For me, it seems that the case head expands too much for the chargers to be of any practical use on my neck sized reloads.
Sorry for the re-upload everyone..... there was a technical problem... please re-comment here is you see fit. Again, sorry for the inconvenience.
Don't apologise people can handle things on their own. You're great
I know this isn’t your thing, but what do you think about the whole pipeline thing with B.C, and Alberta.
Excuse me?..... not the place, i'm afraid... If somehow that has something to do with shooting, I'm all ears... if not, then politics are found elsewhere. Cheers.
8:03 you should check your reloads and the rifles chamber, that either was a pierced primer or a sealing issue in the chamber
The odd anomaly happens from time to time... the rifle is fine.... after thousands of rounds, if there is one little case rupture on highly used brass, I'm OK with that.
Blows my mind that this channel gets so few views and likes. Such great highly informative and entertaining content. However I do have one massive issue with the channel as a whole, that being i keep buying Enfields and piles of .303 after watching videos!
That is very kind of you to say. I heartily accept the blame for your Enfield acquisition "woes".... :-)
i agree with the views, but the content exactly mainstream (or even remotely close to it).
if you compare like to view ratio it is really high even when compared to some other firearms channels known for high quality content.
Reece Burckhard I agree, he's got a no-nonsense style that is at odds with most gun channels on the web that are all cliched gun-porn. I'd rank his videos alongside Hickok45 & Iraqveteran8888, albeit with different presentation. You LEARN something here, plus he's a bloody good story teller, not just watch how good someone thinks he looks with a gun in his hand. One channel (no names mentioned) reviewed a vintage rifle I was thinking of buying & it turned out to be a 45 mins Stream Of Consciousness, including the non gun subject of his fiance & the same handful of info repeated over & over again. Likes? OH! Thousands. But that's the internet for you. Their loss, our gain.
LOL and yet recently I had found a Lee Metford MK I* for sale on IMA-USA and it had just been sold:(
Man I love the sound of those rifle shots cracking off the mountains! Your property is absolutely gorgeous!
It's not his property, it is everyone's property. BC Crown Land I'm guessing.
don't be sorry for re-uploading it. for me it was even better the 2nd time around. great video's.
Going to be honest. When I first found your videos, I was on the fence with them. But the more I realized I had a thing for older guns, the more and more I loved your channel. Keep up the good work
Glad you have seen something that you are enjoying "more".
Great video, I’m ex British Army, really interesting how the lessons learnt from the Boer war affected musketry in subsequent years, Spion Kop, was a salutary lesson. If I recall the BEF were excellent marksmen, but with Kitcheners battalions later on, the marksmanship was less so? Subbed!!!!
Spion Kop was indeed a lesson learnt but I believe that it was a lesson learnt in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory... :-) Thank you for the subby!
Seriously love your channel sir! The amount of effort you put into period clothing and gear plus the way you present your videos make this one of the best YT channels out there. Thank you! 🇨🇦🇬🇧
Thank you very much!
Canada was a british colonie
Always a joy to watch these videos, not to mention when I manage to get to one so early!
Keep up the great work, my good man!
Cheers!
I can't remember my comment from yesterday but it incorporated an element of praise as I recall. :)
Thank you John... sorry about the cock up about the re-upload...
Great video! I have always liked the SMLE, but they're getting harder to find in the US. One day. As a historian, I especially appreciate your attention to detail concerning the kit and musketry of the era. I specifically studied African and African-American history at school, with particular emphasis paid to Southern Africa during the colonial period. When I'm eventually back in the classroom again, I may show some of these videos in lessons, if that's all right, in the hopes of making the history seem more real. Thanks again for all of your hard work.
Thank you for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it! You are welcome to show anything on the Channel for educational, non monetary purposes.
I have a 1919 MK III SMLE. Love it. Every time I take it to the range, people come over to see it and ask to shoot a few rounds. Really enjoy all your videos, keep it up!
Thanks Tim!
I always have a big smile when I see one of your videos appear on UA-cam screen.
Very nice to hear! Cheers.
Another incredible video ! Your videos are a must see for anyone who has in interest in infantry small arms development. Thanks for sharing !
Thank you!
Fantastic video. Came here for the comparison between the two, ended up receiving a lot more information.
Cheers!
Amazing video! This is such a high quality channel all over! From the high fedelity information to the attention to prcedure in the musketry! This channel ought to be an educational rescource for anyone reasearching vintage warfare!
Very kind! Thank you.
I enjoy your crisp and well disciplined presentations. In a more wry observation, I also enjoy how you don't need to show us how empty your rifle that you already know to be clear is. Seriously. Thank you.
Thank you! You are right, I don't need to pay some silly game of "let's see if the rifle is loaded" bunk... a time and place for everything..... :-)
Another great video Rob. Now I have to give my #1 and # 3 a workout at the range this week. Keep up the good work. Rick
Thank you Rick. Have a good time with your SMLE and P14!
I love your choice of music and Marshall Music on all your videos
Thank you!
Outstanding presentation! Thank you so much for your efforts. Keep it up my friend!
Thanks!
Really enjoying your stuff. The tests look practical and even likely in the main. And I'm enjoying getting perspective over the different campaigns, periods, technologies. Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it Michael!
@@britishmuzzleloaders I've read a fair bit of the historical military campaigns you cover. But I am very much enjoying how you tie them in along with the arms development and changes in doctrine. Cheers good man.
@@Mikepower1978 The musketry side of things is so rarely covered.. I enjoy placing the events in the context of the weaponry which answers a lot of questions that straight history often doesn't.... Hopefully you do too!.. :-)
@@britishmuzzleloadersoh I'm enjoying it all right. I have been watching forgotten weapons for a long time not because I am so much mechanically minded but because of the geo political historical context of the arms technology and its transference, application if any and societal impact. Your productions extend my knowledge in this area. Arms technology and global societies are intrinsically linked don't you think? It's all quite fascinating.
I would love to do a "Lee Metford and the 1892 Krag Jorgensen" shoot with you to compare contemporary rifles from across the pond. In full uniform, of course. I absolutely love these videos you are making.
That's an excellent point. The Americans also had to suffer single loading their Krags facing charger loading Mausers and defeated the Spanish handily without resorting to the methods adopted by the British so it'd be only fair to say the quality of the soldiers is a critical factor not just their rifles. Highly motivated Boer volunteers will put up much stiffer resistance than unmotivated Spanish conscripts
The music always warms my heart. Thank you.
Cheers!
He stands so still I hardly noticed he jump-cutted his gear into a whole new century.
Pretty good, eh?
I've sometimes wondered if he has a full length mirror and a helper to draw lipstick on the outline.
Another excellent video. I appreciate all the work that goes in to these presentations. Not just the time to get out set up, shoot, and break down, but in the research and the video editing to create a such a nicely finished product. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much!
you are a badass bro, respect.
Excellent as always.
Great channel! Subscribed! A bit after my time (hence my profile picture haha). An excellent all encompassing examination of kit and philosophies. Cheers from NYC!
Thank you!
I gave the video a thumbs up, however it is past my bed time. So I will have to watch it tomorrow. Thanks for all that you do!
Thanks!
Just finished. Had some chores to take care of so it took a few hours to watch, But it was great! My dog, who LOVES your videos(his name is Sundance) loved it as well. Thanks again!
Outstanding report !!
Thank you!
Always look forward to your videos!!! Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Continually loving the continuing series that continues with British weapons.
Glad to hear!
As always, I loved your video. Thanks Again, Bob
Thank you, Robert.
As usual, excellent work Rob.
Thank you Stephen.
Very interesting test. Well done!
Thank you Andy.
Scientifically sound, entertaining and dramatically poignant at the end. Well done sir!
Thank you Richard.
Another excellent video, please keep up the good work.
Thanks!
excellent info and video Rob...
Thank you!
Glad i found this. Really good and enjoyable videos. Thank you and subscribed.
Happy to hear! Thanks for the subby!
Excellent.
The Mk VI ammo you showed early on is in the later, Mk VII charger, the earlier charger featured different cutouts.
Oh, and it's correctly called a "charger guide", not a charger bridge.
Hi there. Glad you enjoyed it. One must use the resources at hand..... :-) Regarding the correct terminology, as with most things, the truth is in the middle... It's a "Bridge Charger Guide" from the the MR 1909(14). Cheers.
britishmuzzleloaders yes, its a great series, and if I can find one of my mk VI chargers, I'll take a picture for you.
In practice, it was always called a charger guide. My Dad was in the 60th, before the war. Gun dealer post war, and all everyone ever called it was that.
My personal guns were a no 5, and one of those broomhandle mausers. My Dad actually bedded in the no 1 used by the Queens Cup winner in '62. Opens sights, 1,000 yds and almost all thru the same hole.
I distinctly remember, in 1963, a Luger cost £12. Can't remember any other prices, except at Bisley I used to get money collecting the empties during the Annual meeting.
Cracking video as always Rob.
Thanks Matt!
Fantastic video these are really entertaining and very informative you'd be a great history teacher
Thank you!
This is such a great channel it's a shame UA-cam hates firearms channels and wont promote them especially since UA-cam is a American company with our 2nd amendment
Glad you enjoyed the Channel! Cheers.
Excellent video, keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Simply brilliant - TY
Thanks!
An excellent production, very well done. Perhaps the sights had something to do with the slight variation in the time for the first 9 shots? Maybe it was just the human factor.
Anyway, it's an amazing video.
Oh definitely human factor... this human.....
Metford rifle was used in Tirah campaign in 1897 at Samana range about 68 kilometers from my home City Kohat.
Indeed!
nicely done, was unaware that this period of colonial Britain was the cause of this movement to the smle, i had thought was simple progression of technology. thanks for the education.
Glad to be of help!
As always, very informative video! Keep up the great work.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.
Hello Rob.
Great video like always for a Commonwealth gun lover that I am.
Could you one day make us a video about the Charger Long Lee enfield please ?
Best regard.
A French collector and shooter.
Hi there. If I ever got one into my hands I could do a comparison video, yes.
You ask if someone has a boer mauser. Love history but not a real an expert by any means, but does a 1895 chiliean mauser count. As well I live in southern Ab. Would love to see you do a video.
Thank you. They are quite similar.
Exellent video as usual !
Thanks!
Great vid, as usual. Thanks for the scientific analysis.
Cheers!
Very informative and entertaining.
Cheers!
Love this guys videos 🍻🇨🇦
Glad to hear! Thanks.
Interesting. Thanks for the experiment.
As a decorated SMLE .303 marksman/sniper, I rarely used charger clips.
I always had at least 5 fully loaded replacement magazines prepared, in my webbing.
My observer had another 10 magazines. He handed the loaded magazines to right under the loading-point, and recovered the empties for me at the same time.
160 rounds at hand, in an instant. A machine-gun.
The only real peril was over-heating.
Replacing a magazine of 10 rounds, (or 11 as some magazines could hold, depending on their spring), is so much faster than inserting two clips that it is astonishing!
Try it for yourself, if you have the surplus magazines.
Cheers. So did that mean you only used chargers sometimes?
@@britishmuzzleloaders Only when I had no other options.
I used stripper-clips to pre-load magazines, which I then stored in my webbing.
But mostly, back in camp, I loaded the mags by hand, one cartridge at a time.
As usual a well done and informative video. Your research is well done also. I have a No.I MKIII, however it is an Indian made one.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video and added to my knowledge :)
Cheers!
Could you demonstrate how the sling would be used on the Lee Metford?
It is used by extending it and putting the rifle over your shoulder and head. Are you wondering how it is fitted?
Great vid i'm hoping to get you shared a bit more.
Me too!
Can u shed some light on the capability of the Egyptian Remington rifles that fell into the hands of the Dervish in 1884 during the Sudan campaign as compared to the Martini-Henry? Writing up a miniature Wargame scenario for my site on battlebook.com. Thanx.
Roughly the same as the Martini if slightly less quick in the action..
4:53...is that Dymchurch? Martello Tower in background?...
If Dymchurch is at Hythe, then yes,... probably....
Very enjoyable video.
Thank you!
That will show Kaiser Bill!
I know there were reasons and the same was true in most armies but I still find it surprising how long it took after the invention of repeating rifles for them to become standard issue.
Sometimes progress wasn't as fast as we'd expect today....
@@britishmuzzleloaders True. Come to think of it the telephone was invented in 1870 but it took another 129 years before the Civil Procedure Rules 1999 permitted court hearings to be held by telephone in England and Wales, which is even slower progress.
Lank lewe die Boere!
Another excellent video, as always
Cheers!
Interesting video. I particularly liked the way you related the weapons to historic events and how the weapons impacted outcomes. I would be interested if anyone knows whether your method of reaching back for rounds is how soldiers were trained. Your head comes up and you have to look back. Not ideal. Also, your Sgt would have stomped down that left heel you have sticking up. :0
If you would like to know how soldiers were trained, then there are relevant videos on the Firing Exercise (of the Metford) and a whole series on musketry with the SMLE.
There were some complaints about the hitting 'stopping' power of the early .303 bullet.
There were indeed.. hence the MK II Special, the Mk III, Mk IV and Mk V....... this is talked about in the 303 ammunition video and elsewhere.
Interesting that both US and Great Britain developed Mauser style rifles after being on the receiving end. What about the P14 for comparison?
It's not quite as simple as that, but yes, there was thought put towards it. It was more of an issue of charger loading than the type of action.
Happiness is a warm gun.
Absolutely superb description and analysis throughout. It seems, through your own analysis, that you don't think that we British sent you Canadians into battle with some bad weapons (note added in posting, which the Canadians mostly manufactured for themselves). If anything it seems you appreciate them more than we did...
Not quite sure of what you are talking about...this video does not pertain to anything about Canadian manufactured rifles... Canada used the Magazine Lee Enfield in the Boer War, just like the British Army. The SMLE was adopted eventually by the CEF in the Great War... The choice to use the Ross (the only Canadian manufactured rifle in this era) was Canada's, not Britain's, though due to reasons that could have been mitigated by allowing licensing of the MLE design...
Another smashing vid. :)
Thank you!
Have you ever shot ammo that came packed in the original stripper clips? I have seen lots of videos of people reloading with clipper and they are always very slick. My only experience with clips is loading FN mags with 5 rd stripper clips and a magazine charging tool, and they weren't slick at all. In fact they were so stiff we just took the rounds of the clips and loaded them singly because it was easier.
I had this problem in the army.
Cheap commie ammo.
I have indeed... this was old surplus ammunition that was corroded green in some cases and showing rust on the chargers in others. Original, yes, indicative of the state on issue?.... not really... they cleaned up nicely.... and are the ones I use to this day.
keith moore - the thing is, they are intended to be one use then garbage. It would be interesting to know if people saved used clips, lubed them, and loosened them up for reuse. I can see doing that if you are concerned about fast reloads, because new, never used clips in my experience don't work all that well.
U S Brig General Anson Mills obtained the patent for the canvas cartridge belt. Both the US and British armies rejected it in favor of the standard cartridge case. The Boers however obtained a shipment from the US and used the web gear effectively against the British. This changed the minds of the two armies and web gear was used after the Boer War. (My Story by Anson Mills, 1918).
Actually, the British Army was wary of the use of webbing... this was partly due to incorrect assumptions and views taken out of context... this is why they opted for brown leather (P1903 Equipment) when first breaking away from buff leather equipment, post Boer War.
It's a damn shame you didn't have a Mauser to compare them to. That would have been brilliant to see the difference.
To a point... I think that you wouldn't see much of a difference in accuracy, but in the charger loading... that said, the SMLE loaded with five rounds at a time, would be somewhat similar... Regardless, a 1895 Mauser would make for a good video.. nothing like having the proper thing for the job of comparison...
Thank you for another incomparable presentation
You are most welcome!
Hardly incomparable!
Great video
Thanks!
Great videos very enjoyable. But why the kepi blanc? You sir need a pith helmet.
It's not a "kepi"... it's a covered Kilmarnock. More info in Part One of the "Kit" series, if you are interested. For foreign service helmets, see many, many other videos on the Channel.
Although I did have the opportunity to shoot a Lee Enfield in the cadets in the early 80s, I certainly appreciated having the SLR for the amount of fire power that it could put down range.
Nice!
Fine video thanks
Cheers!
We never really went into detail about the Boer war in my world history class. Can I have a summary please?
Wiki has already done that.... have you heard of that website? Sorry, I'm not going to sit and type out what would amount to paragraphs of information when it is at your fingertips. Interesting topic though! Cheers.
I seem to recall reading that one of the problems with the British rifle vs the Boer's Mausers was that the British had made a change to the 303 ammo but had failed to make the necessary changes to the sights. Hence a lot of 303 rounds were fired but simply missed. Does anyone know if this is correct?
Make no mistake, there was not one point in particular that was the root of all problems... Sighting of the MLE was indeed a problem... not so with the Lee Metford, which was also used in SA.... The point here, is that as far as generating firepower goes, the most significant advantage was had by having the ability to load with chargers.
so why did the soldiers never carry a spare loaded mag as emergency reload?
It was withdrawn almost as soon as it was issued (read; never used in anger)... seems like a great idea today, but not the doctrine that was chosen back then...
im new to your channel, got here via forgotten weapons. i like it a lot. I am British, you sound mildly North American. would love to understand your interest in British arms, Im going with Canadian at the moment?
I am Canadian... As 19th and early 20th century Canadian arms were 90% British ones, and my first interest was the muzzleloading rifles of the 1860s,.... well,.... that's how the Channel got it's name... Couldn't really call it Canadianmuzzleloaders... as they weren't...
I wonder how these would have compared while the 2nd magazine was issued for the Metford.
It would have been a lot more comparable,... up to 16 rounds of course.. so after that, you'd be back to the same dilemma...
"If there's an 1895 Mauser laying around..."
*SUMMON C&RSENAL!*
One day!
I know that this may be a bit beyond the scope of focus for this channel, but would it be possible to talk a little bit about Martini-Henry copies and their differences? (Kabul arsenal variants, the Nepal cache Gahendra, ect).
I don't own any of them, I'm afraid. One day perhaps...
What happens to the charger/clip after all the rounds are fired? How is this extracted from the magazine?
What? There are plenty of videos here that show the use of the Charger...
Hi Rob, another great video.
I was wondering if you ever tried dropping cast bullets into cold water straight from the mold? I use Lino type same as you and I’ve found doing this method tightened my group size at 100 yards. Doesn’t work with everything, Made little difference with my 30/06 P17 but with my 1895 7x57 Mauser and my .303 SMLE it really improved my average group size. Might be worth trying ?
Ps don’t have the bucket of cold water to close to your casting pot! Made that mistake on the first go, never again !!
Thanks Mike. I have used water in the past but didn't see any advantage with the linotype. Certainly one of those things that "if it works, then do it!", I'd say.
Another great video! I really appreciate these. The systematic approach to particular topics make me feel like I’m attending some type of course on British firearms.... which is a good thing 😊
Thanks Matt!
My grandfather was in the Royal Engineers and was in the second Boer War . Can you tell me what model of rifle he would have been issued ?
Any of the Lee Series rifles.
Would you be able to discuss the equipment used by the Boers? I know they were more of a militia/citizen fighting force and probably didn't have too much standardized gear. However, I have seen a lot of photos of their bandoliers and such and I can not seem to find the exact models I see in the pictures.
Maybe when I am able to shoot a Boer-style Mauser...
Would it be possible to be faster with switching the magazines directly?
Not at all historical... nobody had spare magazines.
Do you normally just neck size your brass? Flawless presentation, as usual.
Thank you. Yes, I believe I mentioned that in the video. Have a look at the 303 reloading video on the Channel if you are interested in the whole process.
I love my 1895 Mauser...
Was it standard practice at the time to load and fire one round at a time after emptying the magazine? I would think it would be more efficient to load as many as you could hold in your hand before firing again?
There is a video that explores that very question on the Channel in the Firepower playlist, if you are interested.
What is spion kop that every onw is talking about. In Swedish it would translate to "spy buy". Can some one throw light on that probable German word?
Spion Kop is a feature on which a battle of the Boer War took place. Kop being a "head" or top of a hill in Afrikaans.
Even with the issues with your brass you still exceeded the "Mad Minute"
Lot's of info on that "phrase" on the Channel, if you are interested.
Was it standard doctrine to reload only with 5 from the charger during a sustained fire event or is that just for the musketry practices? It see,pms to defeat the advantage of the larger magazine. Also, I remember reading that soldiers were expect to refasten the pouch or bandoleer pocket after removing a charger. Was that time included in this demonstration?
Yes it was... both in the musketry instruction, the annual qualification and in doctrine.... In the field, the magazine would have ten rounds in it... it actually is easier to charge five at a time rather than pushing ten into the mag... hence the technique used in this video... There is no specific indication in the Annual qualification for the SMLE (1914) to refasten the pouch, but in the description of the "Load" drill there is...
Excellent information, well presented, very good camera work. (I don't care about the second upload). How long of preparation and execution time does a video like this will take?
Thank you for the kind words... Time of production,..... let's see... a trip to the woods,.... an afternoon of filming..... a trip back home,... then (and this is an easy stye of video to edit) about 12 hours spread out over a week to edit and add the voice over and music.... not to mention the time to make the ammo, pack the kit and camera equipment, targets and such.... The type of stuff I do, takes a hell of a long time to produce...
Thanks for the answer! I had a feeling that a lot of time goes into your videos...
Hey Rob! I was curious as to how you are able to use chargers with your neck sized reloads. For me, it seems that the case head expands too much for the chargers to be of any practical use on my neck sized reloads.
Have you watched the Musketry of 1914 series? :-) They work just fine.
Did they not use an extra magazine or more?
This is a Baker video, right?