Emotions won't help him. The reality remains that he should have gone like the day before yesterday. One more thing, we don't know what the complaints of the president are! Maybe he's sabotaging Sha/shift, maybe he's behind Adani deals! You never know. What I know is Ruto is serious changing this country.
This is the best interview ever. Thank you sir. We have to start somewhere fighting corruption. A good case and I foresee someone in jail soon. Thanks.
Whenever a governor is impeached does he go home alone or with his deputy?? The answer is he go alone. Was he elected together with is deputy!? Yes. Therefore let Riggy G carry his own cross.
@@britainantony8932 it's nothing with believing. Just substantiate the allegation.. if someone says you stole the car you have, show us how you bought it
Whether you believe that the DP is elected, selected, or nominated doesn't matter. The fact is that the impeachment is against either of them and it's parliament that does it.. Gachagua should focus on the 11 charges against him because he's focusing on irrelevant things such as having helped Ruto in the Mt Kenya region.
😂😂😂😂😂 unasema nini wewe🤣🤣🤣🤣which 11 charges they were over 1000 accusations the truthful man was even accused of being a member of LGBTQ that he went in bed with the president that he once referred malayas as malayas just revisit the Hansards utaskia maneno🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gracekamau3263 the president can also be impeached. I thought you should know. (1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President-- (a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law; (b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or (c) for gross misconduct. (2) If a motion under clause (1) is supported by at least two-thirds of all the members of the National Assembly -- (a) the Speaker shall inform the Speaker of the Senate of that resolution within two days; and (b) the President shall continue to perform the functions of the office pending the outcome of the proceedings required by this Article. (3) Within seven days after receiving notice of a resolution from the Speaker of the National Assembly-- (a) the Speaker of the Senate shall convene a meeting of the senate to hear charges against the President; and (b) the Senate, by resolution, may appoint a special committee comprising eleven of its members to investigate the matter. (4) A special committee appointed under clause (3) (b) shall -- (a) investigate the matter; and (b) report to the Senate within ten days whether it finds the particulars of the allegations against the President to have been substantiated. (5) The President shall have the right to appear and be represented before the special committee during its investigations. (6) If the special committee reports that the particulars of any allegation against the President - (a) have not been substantiated, further proceedings shall not be taken under this Article in respect of that allegation; or (b) have been substantiated, the Senate shall, after according the President an opportunity to be heard, vote on the impeachment charges. (7) If at least two-thirds of all the members of the Senate vote to uphold any impeachment charge, the President shall cease to hold office.
Funny thing people used to say Ruto cannot be impeached during uhuru tenture,both should have gone home, but now during Ruto tenture, rigathi gachagua can be impeached.hypocrisy and double standard.
ignorance is not an excuse. the truth was that there was no grounds to impeach DP Ruto. but as for DP gachagua there are grounds. wether they can hold or not is a matter of time as the case is prosecuted
The deputy President is not nominated by the President. A presidential candidate appoints a running mate then they are both nominated by their party (if they belong to one). Then they are both elected. Ruto wasn’t president when he picked Gachagua as his running mate.
@@edukibsif the DP’s office becomes vacant then different rules apply. The same way if the President vacates office we don’t immediately go into elections.
I'm sorry Mr Havi, I don't gree with you on whether the deputy is elected or nominated by the president.The point is that the president on behalf of his party nominates the vice,then both present themselves for election as a single unit. That is the fact.
Yes, We go to elections to elect a president not a deputy president. You will never see a deputy president anywhere on the ballot paper. Actually nowhere in the world do you elect a deputy president.
@@chegemukuria9153 Hakuna picha ya Gachagua Kwa ballot. There is no election for a vice president. Let Gachagua sort his problems with Ruto on his own. He should not bring Kenyans or his tribe into his problems.
Seems you never voted. In the presidential ballot, there was the presidential candidate and their Deputy. Both Gachagua and Karua were on the ballot alongside their candidates
@@chegemukuria9153 Your tribesman Gachagua is a divisive figure if the truth be said. He is making the rest of Kenya feel alienated from the government by his shareholder narrative and bias towards 'Mlima' forgetting that his office is a national office. Kwani other regions or tribes don't have issues to be addressed. What the point of saying "Mulima usiguswe" Is mount Kenya special than the rest of Kenya. Mount Kenya has had 3 presidents and should be the last to be complaining about development. This attitude of his is the one which is now bringing political divisions in the country. He should have sort his differences with Ruto without involving mount Kenya but instead he is using the tribal card in his personal feud. I agree with the impeachment grounds since he does not seem to understand his role as a leader. Everyone has a bias towards his people but yake Ni madharau to other regions. If today people of mount Kenya were to be asked to go back to their ancestral land in mlima central will not be able to accomodate all of you. Aache madharau to the rest of Kenyans and his selfishness. Kenya is not the property of Kikuyus or the mountain !
Nelson you are wrong out of the Law ,we elected the two together through the ballot not nominated please. If impeachment Both are directly impeached. Raila Amolo Odinga and Matha Karua should be ready to take up the office after Wetangula warms up the chair after 90 days.
But how come...during the election or on the ballot paper they don't put the picture of the president alone but both of them...that shows how crucial the nominee is on the ballot
Nonsense. Both are elected. If it were not so, the president would nominate his deputy after he has been elected. Ruto would not have won if he had nominated Kindiki as running mate. A running mate means the voter sees them as one. The presidency.
@kennynyongs254 very simplistic way of looking at it. It was on condition he nominates a kikuyu as running mate. Why do you think he wanted kindiki but changed to gachagua? Simply it was about votes. So gachagua brought in the votes without which ruto could not win. Now that he is president, he wants to ger kindiki as DP without consequences.
For the first time , We see parliament extending public participation timeline to get more signatures to oust DP. We have had pertinent issues in these country and Public participation is just brushed off. I wonder what the political class, wants to achieve.
What nonesense, no wonder you were rejected in Westlands. Who nominates the deputy in the constitution. Even a common mwananchi knows they are elected together.
Kwani hawa learned friends sheria wanasomea wapi, moja anasema hii mwingine hii kwani university ile munaendaga vitabu ya sheria ni tafauti bure kabisa
@samuelnjoroge7248 Take ur emotions to mrima sir...we are not here to safeguards wrong doers just because they are from our tribes.Lets the law take its course.If he defends himself from the charges then he will be vindicated but let's not try to block the process just because we speak the same mother-tongue ..
I think advocate Havi is wrong on his statement when he says that, the president and the dp are not both elected together. First of all they got nominated from their party then they both seek to be elected through their party ticket as president and deputy president . Thus why during voting day their photos is put in the one box for the voters to tick them as president and deputy president.
I disagree with your submission in regard to constitution. If the a person is purported to have violated the constitution it is the supreme Court that to declare that but not other body
If dp was nominated even the president was nominated because they went in ballots together Infact the law should be reviewed so that an impeached dp should be replaced through ballots not nominations Obviously the incoming dp will be a joyrider if picked by the president and not through ballots now that is a nominated dp🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rigathi Gachagau should never have risen beyond the role of a KANU-era D.O. The man lacks the temperament, integrity, or composure for any public office. His running mouth and navel-gazing do not help. You can never save a man who doesn’t want to be saved.
Mr reread the law. You appear to be fumbling and not to know what you are talking about. Don't mascaraed in a media house and misadvise people on matters law.
who are you fooling mr. when people were voting. it was a two people ticket. presidenta nd dp. if impeach, then they should be the two, thi ain Moi Era
This Nelson Mavi is so pedestrian in his interpretation of law...Has never won any case in our courts.Presidential ticket is a joint ticket where both president and his deputy are first nominated by their parties.Once presented to Iebc they are legally bound and No turning back or replaced..the nomination ends at the party delegates convention.Thus both are elected at the ballot
You're a good lawyer but you seem to have taken a stand on who you support in this matter, you're just talking about the process but not the facts/evidence that the Court will consider.You're saying parliament's ruling cannot be defaulted as if parliament is final in this matter. Gachagua will have his day even at the supreme court . Anyway you're entitled to your own opinion
" It's imperative that people put aside their emotions & let the process run its natural cause "
Emotions won't help him.
The reality remains that he should have gone like the day before yesterday.
One more thing, we don't know what the complaints of the president are!
Maybe he's sabotaging Sha/shift, maybe he's behind Adani deals!
You never know.
What I know is Ruto is serious changing this country.
@@Xaswawa-rz2et " Flesh & blood has not revealed this to you but my father who is in heaven" 😘 😂😂😂
This is the best interview ever. Thank you sir. We have to start somewhere fighting corruption. A good case and I foresee someone in jail soon. Thanks.
You're right
Whenever a governor is impeached does he go home alone or with his deputy?? The answer is he go alone. Was he elected together with is deputy!? Yes. Therefore let Riggy G carry his own cross.
Nelson, you're wrong. A president would only nominate a DP after winning the election not before. That's why candidates run as one ticket!
Which law are you referring to ?
Which law schl dd u attend?
It's evident you don't understand principles of law !
🤣🤣🤣🤣anaishi Kenya gani
@@normanmutharia3268 I just hope you are not from Kenya because if you are then you still have some growing to do 😂😂😂😂😂
This impeachment will open an interesting page in kenya.. if people can be removed constitutionally out of office for corruption, this will be good.
@alexkibe4179 The question is, do you believe that Gachagua is corrupt?
@@britainantony8932 it's nothing with believing. Just substantiate the allegation.. if someone says you stole the car you have, show us how you bought it
Whether you believe that the DP is elected, selected, or nominated doesn't matter. The fact is that the impeachment is against either of them and it's parliament that does it.. Gachagua should focus on the 11 charges against him because he's focusing on irrelevant things such as having helped Ruto in the Mt Kenya region.
😂😂😂😂😂 unasema nini wewe🤣🤣🤣🤣which 11 charges they were over 1000 accusations
the truthful man was even accused of being a member of LGBTQ that he went in bed with the president
that he once referred malayas as malayas just revisit the Hansards utaskia maneno🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But Kenyans desperately needs Ruto out first followed by DP...wakwende wote
Only kwa debe no shortcut
@@gracekamau3263 the president can also be impeached. I thought you should know. (1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
(2) If a motion under clause (1) is supported by at least two-thirds of all the members of the National Assembly --
(a) the Speaker shall inform the Speaker of the Senate of that resolution within two days; and
(b) the President shall continue to perform the functions of the office pending the outcome of the proceedings required by this Article.
(3) Within seven days after receiving notice of a resolution from the Speaker of the National Assembly--
(a) the Speaker of the Senate shall convene a meeting of the senate to hear charges against the President; and
(b) the Senate, by resolution, may appoint a special committee comprising eleven of its members to investigate the matter.
(4) A special committee appointed under clause (3) (b) shall --
(a) investigate the matter; and
(b) report to the Senate within ten days whether it finds the particulars of the allegations against the President to have been substantiated.
(5) The President shall have the right to appear and be represented before the special committee during its investigations.
(6) If the special committee reports that the particulars of any allegation against the President -
(a) have not been substantiated, further proceedings shall not be taken under this Article in respect of that allegation; or
(b) have been substantiated, the Senate shall, after according the President an opportunity to be heard, vote on the impeachment charges.
(7) If at least two-thirds of all the members of the Senate vote to uphold any impeachment charge, the President shall cease to hold office.
He should have gone like the day before yesterday.
We've heard asking to finish his with the president but the reality remains he has to go.
They are elected as a pair. On the same ballot.
Funny thing people used to say Ruto cannot be impeached during uhuru tenture,both should have gone home, but now during Ruto tenture, rigathi gachagua can be impeached.hypocrisy and double standard.
it's kikuyus or tugege shareholders led by gachagua who used to say that DP ruto could not be impeached.
@@johnbrown3235 haha, now they know better,to gain your friend enemy as a sign of loyalty to him is being stupid.
But what does the law say... only the constitution should be followed...
@@samwelnyanumba8953 so during that time we didn't have constitution?
ignorance is not an excuse. the truth was that there was no grounds to impeach DP Ruto. but as for DP gachagua there are grounds. wether they can hold or not is a matter of time as the case is prosecuted
That's a Legal Soldier.
Has anybody heard Ruro mentioning Tribes and shareholding when he was a Dp ?
@@Xaswawa-rz2et heads of parastatals has a Kenyan look ?
Me here when as dp he publicly stated that he has a personal grudge with kikuyus more than any other person in Kenya 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nominated before election or after election!Was Rigathi's picture on the ballot papers ?
Sorry DP the ground is shaking
All of a sudden in comment section everybody has a degree in law.😂😂😂
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The deputy President is not nominated by the President. A presidential candidate appoints a running mate then they are both nominated by their party (if they belong to one). Then they are both elected. Ruto wasn’t president when he picked Gachagua as his running mate.
The fact remains the Deputy President is impeachable and this one is corrupt as his boss. Let's do away with him first then focus on Ruto.
let us impeach and then you elect your dp
@@edukibs you have a congested brain with no matter
@@edukibsif the DP’s office becomes vacant then different rules apply. The same way if the President vacates office we don’t immediately go into elections.
I'm sorry Mr Havi, I don't gree with you on whether the deputy is elected or nominated by the president.The point is that the president on behalf of his party nominates the vice,then both present themselves for election as a single unit. That is the fact.
Clearly put Mr. Sir.
I like the way you articulate your points
Havi lost his mind and reasoning like a villager.
Yes, We go to elections to elect a president not a deputy president. You will never see a deputy president anywhere on the ballot paper. Actually nowhere in the world do you elect a deputy president.
Nonsense,he's elected not appointed,kama he's was appointed the thief Ruto would have sacked him
You did not see Gachagua picture in the ballot? You did not see Karua picture?
@@chegemukuria9153
Hakuna picha ya Gachagua Kwa ballot. There is no election for a vice president. Let Gachagua sort his problems with Ruto on his own. He should not bring Kenyans or his tribe into his problems.
Seems you never voted. In the presidential ballot, there was the presidential candidate and their Deputy. Both Gachagua and Karua were on the ballot alongside their candidates
@@chegemukuria9153
Your tribesman Gachagua is a divisive figure if the truth be said. He is making the rest of Kenya feel alienated from the government by his shareholder narrative and bias towards 'Mlima' forgetting that his office is a national office. Kwani other regions or tribes don't have issues to be addressed. What the point of saying "Mulima usiguswe" Is mount Kenya special than the rest of Kenya. Mount Kenya has had 3 presidents and should be the last to be complaining about development. This attitude of his is the one which is now bringing political divisions in the country. He should have sort his differences with Ruto without involving mount Kenya but instead he is using the tribal card in his personal feud. I agree with the impeachment grounds since he does not seem to understand his role as a leader. Everyone has a bias towards his people but yake Ni madharau to other regions. If today people of mount Kenya were to be asked to go back to their ancestral land in mlima central will not be able to accomodate all of you. Aache madharau to the rest of Kenyans and his selfishness. Kenya is not the property of Kikuyus or the mountain !
Nelson you are wrong out of the Law ,we elected the two together through the ballot not nominated please. If impeachment Both are directly impeached. Raila Amolo Odinga and Matha Karua should be ready to take up the office after Wetangula warms up the chair after 90 days.
leave emotions out of this
Viva Havi.
Executive wants to twist the laws
Spot on
But how come...during the election or on the ballot paper they don't put the picture of the president alone but both of them...that shows how crucial the nominee is on the ballot
Mind opening
Was nominated by who. ? Rithathi was elected together with president ruto. Take your philosophy to sugoi havi..
This people are twins u can't afford to separate them, kama ni kwenda waende wote wawili period
Raila odinga puppets will speak the masters mindset.
How does Raila Odinga come in this matter. Fyi Nelson Havi belong to UDA
1. gross violations check 2. criminals check 3. gross misconducts check . But they are all doing it!! Can we add all the other names?
Havi is nonsense
If that is the case.. why is impeachment in the constitution?
Nonsense. Both are elected. If it were not so, the president would nominate his deputy after he has been elected. Ruto would not have won if he had nominated Kindiki as running mate. A running mate means the voter sees them as one. The presidency.
Ruto won Kikuyus before nominating Gachagua.
@kennynyongs254 very simplistic way of looking at it. It was on condition he nominates a kikuyu as running mate. Why do you think he wanted kindiki but changed to gachagua? Simply it was about votes. So gachagua brought in the votes without which ruto could not win. Now that he is president, he wants to ger kindiki as DP without consequences.
Excellent guest, highly intelligent and articulate.
😂😂😂🚮
I pity Gachagua
Did He Nominated After The Election??????
Can the president go to the ballot without the deputy.
Is it not a smoke screen as other deals pass unnoticed... 🤔
Spot on. It is a joint ticket. Voters for both
Shareholding is very clear in the heads of parastatals , why are we being dishonest?
For the first time , We see parliament extending public participation timeline to get more signatures to oust DP.
We have had pertinent issues in these country and Public participation is just brushed off.
I wonder what the political class, wants to achieve.
Nelson havi, my friend and good lawyer is not honest
No the deputy ptesident is not nominated he was in the ballot box...it was a pair of two..
What nonesense, no wonder you were rejected in Westlands. Who nominates the deputy in the constitution. Even a common mwananchi knows they are elected together.
Ooh... they can. It is as a😊 result of his nomination that Ruto was elected as president?!....
Kwani hawa learned friends sheria wanasomea wapi, moja anasema hii mwingine hii kwani university ile munaendaga vitabu ya sheria ni tafauti bure kabisa
That's the problem when you vote a lawyer to be a representative you sell your right
Havi, Jacob Zuma was jailed for contempt of constitutional court and not because of crimes during his term as president
Normalize listening and comprehending. That is what we call contextualizing
Mimi niliona picha yake. He is not the VP but the DP. Do you understand the difference?
Gachagua will win this impeachment...Mavi guy is just hot air pik pik bonki
@samuelnjoroge7248 Take ur emotions to mrima sir...we are not here to safeguards wrong doers just because they are from our tribes.Lets the law take its course.If he defends himself from the charges then he will be vindicated but let's not try to block the process just because we speak the same mother-tongue ..
Mwanaume mzima you can’t live with the reality
Are you a loya? Watu wa central mna shida na masomo.
I think advocate Havi is wrong on his statement when he says that, the president and the dp are not both elected together. First of all they got nominated from their party then they both seek to be elected through their party ticket as president and deputy president . Thus why during voting day their photos is put in the one box for the voters to tick them as president and deputy president.
Navi you have been bought and your are a sell out
Havi is RG a testing ground for impeachment, so partisan!
It is proofed tha some GNZ joined the fight without knowing how some were given
HAVI WHY DID YOU ALLOW RUTO TO SEND YOU HERE TO SPEW HIS EVIL SCHEMES AS IF ITS THE TRUTH?
The law is an ass,why elect deputy enjoined with the president, then it should be separate,elected separately
One ticket.
Tulishagua Ruto juu ya gachagua and that's is true
I disagree with your submission in regard to constitution. If the a person is purported to have violated the constitution it is the supreme Court that to declare that but not other body
Havi is misleading!
ujinga school of thought
Both are serving self not duty mandated to them by employer
Kenyans if you want kenya kwanza to fail let riggy g still he will giv ruto nd mlima kenya leaders sleepless nights nd thy wll go home in 2027
Does havi want to tell usDp is nominated nowadays ,? I thought we elected both ,,soo he is elected
If dp was nominated even the president was nominated because they went in ballots together
Infact the law should be reviewed so that an impeached dp should be replaced through ballots not nominations
Obviously the incoming dp will be a joyrider if picked by the president and not through ballots
now that is a nominated dp🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rigathi Gachagau should never have risen beyond the role of a KANU-era D.O. The man lacks the temperament, integrity, or composure for any public office. His running mouth and navel-gazing do not help. You can never save a man who doesn’t want to be saved.
Rigathi Is DP and Not Vice President
Next is ruto after gachagua
Operation wakebya hatucheki na waizi😂
Mr reread the law. You appear to be fumbling and not to know what you are talking about. Don't mascaraed in a media house and misadvise people on matters law.
Truth is bitter
Dynasty mbaya….hustler atawareeeee….
who are you fooling mr. when people were voting. it was a two people ticket. presidenta nd dp. if impeach, then they should be the two, thi ain Moi Era
Has it happened say in the case of Governors or Deputy Governors who hv bn impeached?Hv they gone as pair..?
This Nelson Mavi is so pedestrian in his interpretation of law...Has never won any case in our courts.Presidential ticket is a joint ticket where both president and his deputy are first nominated by their parties.Once presented to Iebc they are legally bound and No turning back or replaced..the nomination ends at the party delegates convention.Thus both are elected at the ballot
He has never won???
Do you remember your ballot paper? Did it have. the image of the Deputy?
Uhuru aliwawuon.
You're a good lawyer but you seem to have taken a stand on who you support in this matter, you're just talking about the process but not the facts/evidence that the Court will consider.You're saying parliament's ruling cannot be defaulted as if parliament is final in this matter.
Gachagua will have his day even at the supreme court .
Anyway you're entitled to your own opinion
Hot air mdomo tuu
And who is this news anchor.?
Ashley Mazuri
@@kadzo6614 thanks mate
Wewe sio katimba hiyo ni maoni yako kwenda na huko
Thanks Nelson