As best as I tried, I did make a mistake in this video. 39:20 - 40:34 I mentioned the Triple 305mm (12"/50 Mk 8) as being a CA gun, when in actuality it's a CB gun and therefore is not fully comparable to the Triple 203mm (SKC Prototype). While a CB can choose between the 2 guns, a CA can only select the later. I apologize for the mistake and it just means this rainbow CA gun is slightly more useful than implied in situations where you are using a CA over a CB (i.e. Hindenburg).
I hadn't realised that you hadn't done any PR reviews till now. I already have all these ships maxed out but it was very interesting to hear how they are holding up longevity wise and to hear their respective uses described so thoroughly. I'm definitely looking forwards to the PR 7 review and even reviews of previous banners to see how some old favourites are holding up.
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I feel the same about flandre. I made her first because i like her design but my god her skills are so underwhelming. it's close to me liking it too cause i do like the theme of backline ships having high range aux guns but locking it her getting half dead is so unfun. it's a mechanic you can't work around, there's no way for me to purposefully activate it like putting certain equipment on her. maybe her fate sim will remove that requirement.
Honestly I hate that we've gotten so accustomed to waiting for fate sim/augments to buff an underperforming ship, and this seems to be the norm in other gachas as well. She shouldn't have had that HP restriction in the first place, or her secondaries should've at least already had extended range compared to normal BBs, which would further extend if she lost enough HP. I think that's a pretty good middle ground. It's still gimmicky but at least isn't too restricted. However, I do feel that Flandre is at least an improvement over previous french BBs since she has 3MGM and keeps her preload, while not having that stupid manual restriction (thanks manjuu for handicapping Clemenceau AND imposing a vichya fleet restriction on top of that) or a gun restriction (like how Richie should ideally use a HE gun or JB needing that inconsistent POS gun). She's a great addition for French enjoyers, but is otherwise pretty balanced and not super good at anything in particular.
@@WadeWontson gachas just rarely if ever do actual balance buffs unfortunately. It normally takes a large amount of backlash in the home server for such things to happen ie genshin with Zhongli. I assume the general reason being that if they buff a unit after it releases and they aren't available anymore, they'll get backlash since people skipped the unit because they were bad. Azur lane doesn't really have this problem since their gacha is so good and characters return regularly with some exceptions so they're just following the trend of never buffing character outside the unfortunately standard norm of a new buffing mechanic that fixes them. These mechanics are generally standard in gachas since they're are basically guaranteed to have powercreep over time so the normal function of augments is to help bring older units back up in power level. The problem is new units releasing with completely underwhelming power to start with or baffling restrictions that aren't even worth it.
Hell one of my biggest balance annoyances in this game was mentioned in this video. The disparity between rare hull types in this game. Aviation battleship not counting for 90% of the buffs in the game is unacceptable. same for monitors and munition ships. these already near useless hull types get shafted even more for no reason.
@tsunekofuwakage Yeah. I think one of the few exceptions is Alchemy Stars as they have directly buffed underperforming 6* units before, even without heavy backlash. I think the most recent direct buff was only a month ago? They also have a module system (refinements) as the devs don't always directly buff units, and refinements are used exactly as you described - to give older units another chance to shine. That's way better than having a unit be subpar at launch and having to wait years for a buff, it's one of my pet peeves in gachas. I don't think Flandre is bad for her rarity and I consider her one of the best french BBs (not like she has much competition lmao), but she certainly doesn't stand out among the PR6 ships.
@tsunekofuwakage There's not much to expect out of monitors and munitions ships tbh since they weren't designed to be fighting proper head to head battles irl. It would feel pretty weird if they were as strong as the other ship classes. IMO they should've been implemented differently to at least give them a purpose since there's no meta reason to bring them in the regular fleet instead of any other ship class. Maybe have a separate fleet for support ships like monitors, munitions and repair ships that can assist your main fleets in battle? But I guess subs already kind of fulfill that role.
For Felix Schultz you completely brushed over the fact that getting her to Dev 30 unlocks an extra buff. All stats gained from Auxillary Gear get a flat 30% buff to them. (ie. she gets 130 torp instead of 100 from a +10 Type 95 Pure Oxygen Auxillary Torpedo)
That is pretty standard. All DDs get 1 of 3 buffs are full upgrade. It was part of the DD patch update almost 3 years ago for the whole ship class ua-cam.com/video/qdK2lMJUzdM/v-deo.html
Honestly, flandre suffers from feature repeating on most of her skill details. The secondary gun detail is used on a lot of other ships, and most ships don't have to wait until they lose half their health to trigger it. Flandres target buff is nice, but there is other battleships which just do that... Better. It overall results in her being meh. She's mostly carried by her PR statline buffs, more than anything. And now alsace is here.
When I'm running a damage max equip vanguard, Hindy beats: -Plymouth -Unzen -Guam -Shimakaze on a GOOD run She is pound for pound the HIGHEST (by a LOT) DPS vanguard ship. And regularly beat most of my non-UR Backline ships, especially for mobbing short farms. I feel like AZM undersold her value. ...I didn't expect that would cause my hand to reflexively curl into a fist 😂
Dev 30 Hindenburg do as much damage as Bismarck Zwei... let that sink in for a moment... yeah, Hindenburg is going to stay for a while as I dont see the dev would makes another ship as OP as her anytime soon... it would actually be bad for the game if they do...
@@umitatsuya2492 Boss, Arbiter Hard mode and Meta Lv 15, if your Hindenburg isnt capable of doing as much damage as Bismack Zwei, you are misusing her..
@@UnbelievableLins i'm sorry, but i fail to see how Bismarck sucks when she could do 150k damage on a bad day and 250k damage on a good day... the only other ship that over damager her in my fleet is UvH should do 200k damage on a bad day, 300k damage on a good day... My Hindenburg do 150k damage on a bad day and 200k damage on a good day. and my whole fleet consist of Bismarck Zwei, UvH, FdG, Agir, Hindenburg and Emden... the weakest damager in my fleet is FdG which on a good day only do 150k damage even thought she is using the same gear as Bismarck Zwei.. but again, i'm using a ship design for mobbing on a boss fleet because I have no other option currently. so tell me, how is my Bismarck sucks and not Hindenburg that is OP? she is a vanguard ship that do much damage as a modern UR Battleship... and you dont see that as OP?
Yes, the American restriction is not really one. Also not to overlook the fact she can also go with Russian versions, since the new PR7 Russian equipment is looking good too (La-9)
shimanto hurt more than plymouth, she is for me the strongest pr6 because kearsarge relly on what ship you have and what equipment u get, she s not felxible and depend on other ship. Shimanto is here, she bring stupid tankiness, aa and she deals a ton of damage, i play her alongside jintsu meta and unzen in a torpedo frontlane carry fleet and i think there is no better choice for torpedo (maybe shimakaze if the fight is too short, the longer the figth the better for shimanto)
@umitatsuya2492 bro just try it why would i lie in a torpedo fleed againt a long fight shimanto is strong because she has no preload but got double torp and a ridiculous barage stronger than shimakaze that is strong for shorter fight because she got double preload but launch only 1 wave of torp
@@AzurLaneMeta Only other thing that sorta popped out at me was in the 406 Mk 6 gun section; you said we just got a 2nd Mk 7 so only build a mk 6 if need a 3rd HE gun... but the Mk 7 got added to the Gear Lab, so can have as many of them as need/afford
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As best as I tried, I did make a mistake in this video. 39:20 - 40:34 I mentioned the Triple 305mm (12"/50 Mk 8) as being a CA gun, when in actuality it's a CB gun and therefore is not fully comparable to the Triple 203mm (SKC Prototype). While a CB can choose between the 2 guns, a CA can only select the later. I apologize for the mistake and it just means this rainbow CA gun is slightly more useful than implied in situations where you are using a CA over a CB (i.e. Hindenburg).
The Guam UR gun isn't a CA gun, its a CB gun. You can't equip it to CAs.
I hadn't realised that you hadn't done any PR reviews till now. I already have all these ships maxed out but it was very interesting to hear how they are holding up longevity wise and to hear their respective uses described so thoroughly. I'm definitely looking forwards to the PR 7 review and even reviews of previous banners to see how some old favourites are holding up.
Glad you like them! Maybe I will do a full PR review video.
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He gets ruthless the less useful they are, and he made video best to the worst.
They made Jew Jersey buff affect Kearsarge. I heard it from a data mine ages ago. It’s just annoying it’s not written in game.
I feel the same about flandre. I made her first because i like her design but my god her skills are so underwhelming. it's close to me liking it too cause i do like the theme of backline ships having high range aux guns but locking it her getting half dead is so unfun. it's a mechanic you can't work around, there's no way for me to purposefully activate it like putting certain equipment on her. maybe her fate sim will remove that requirement.
Honestly I hate that we've gotten so accustomed to waiting for fate sim/augments to buff an underperforming ship, and this seems to be the norm in other gachas as well. She shouldn't have had that HP restriction in the first place, or her secondaries should've at least already had extended range compared to normal BBs, which would further extend if she lost enough HP. I think that's a pretty good middle ground. It's still gimmicky but at least isn't too restricted.
However, I do feel that Flandre is at least an improvement over previous french BBs since she has 3MGM and keeps her preload, while not having that stupid manual restriction (thanks manjuu for handicapping Clemenceau AND imposing a vichya fleet restriction on top of that) or a gun restriction (like how Richie should ideally use a HE gun or JB needing that inconsistent POS gun). She's a great addition for French enjoyers, but is otherwise pretty balanced and not super good at anything in particular.
@@WadeWontson gachas just rarely if ever do actual balance buffs unfortunately. It normally takes a large amount of backlash in the home server for such things to happen ie genshin with Zhongli. I assume the general reason being that if they buff a unit after it releases and they aren't available anymore, they'll get backlash since people skipped the unit because they were bad. Azur lane doesn't really have this problem since their gacha is so good and characters return regularly with some exceptions so they're just following the trend of never buffing character outside the unfortunately standard norm of a new buffing mechanic that fixes them.
These mechanics are generally standard in gachas since they're are basically guaranteed to have powercreep over time so the normal function of augments is to help bring older units back up in power level. The problem is new units releasing with completely underwhelming power to start with or baffling restrictions that aren't even worth it.
Hell one of my biggest balance annoyances in this game was mentioned in this video. The disparity between rare hull types in this game. Aviation battleship not counting for 90% of the buffs in the game is unacceptable. same for monitors and munition ships. these already near useless hull types get shafted even more for no reason.
@tsunekofuwakage Yeah. I think one of the few exceptions is Alchemy Stars as they have directly buffed underperforming 6* units before, even without heavy backlash. I think the most recent direct buff was only a month ago? They also have a module system (refinements) as the devs don't always directly buff units, and refinements are used exactly as you described - to give older units another chance to shine. That's way better than having a unit be subpar at launch and having to wait years for a buff, it's one of my pet peeves in gachas. I don't think Flandre is bad for her rarity and I consider her one of the best french BBs (not like she has much competition lmao), but she certainly doesn't stand out among the PR6 ships.
@tsunekofuwakage There's not much to expect out of monitors and munitions ships tbh since they weren't designed to be fighting proper head to head battles irl. It would feel pretty weird if they were as strong as the other ship classes. IMO they should've been implemented differently to at least give them a purpose since there's no meta reason to bring them in the regular fleet instead of any other ship class. Maybe have a separate fleet for support ships like monitors, munitions and repair ships that can assist your main fleets in battle? But I guess subs already kind of fulfill that role.
For Felix Schultz you completely brushed over the fact that getting her to Dev 30 unlocks an extra buff.
All stats gained from Auxillary Gear get a flat 30% buff to them. (ie. she gets 130 torp instead of 100 from a +10 Type 95 Pure Oxygen Auxillary Torpedo)
That is pretty standard. All DDs get 1 of 3 buffs are full upgrade. It was part of the DD patch update almost 3 years ago for the whole ship class ua-cam.com/video/qdK2lMJUzdM/v-deo.html
I use Shimanto everyday doing world 13 hardmode clears. Perfect for that task.
Honestly, flandre suffers from feature repeating on most of her skill details. The secondary gun detail is used on a lot of other ships, and most ships don't have to wait until they lose half their health to trigger it. Flandres target buff is nice, but there is other battleships which just do that... Better. It overall results in her being meh. She's mostly carried by her PR statline buffs, more than anything. And now alsace is here.
Counter argument: she is wife
my Hindenburg sometimes ties or beats main fleet 🤣
I was thinking it was just me being crazy. But damn Hindenburg is a beast.
Hindenburg does more damage than all backliners save for select URs
When I'm running a damage max equip vanguard, Hindy beats:
-Plymouth
-Unzen
-Guam
-Shimakaze on a GOOD run
She is pound for pound the HIGHEST (by a LOT) DPS vanguard ship. And regularly beat most of my non-UR Backline ships, especially for mobbing short farms.
I feel like AZM undersold her value.
...I didn't expect that would cause my hand to reflexively curl into a fist 😂
Dev 30 Hindenburg do as much damage as Bismarck Zwei... let that sink in for a moment...
yeah, Hindenburg is going to stay for a while as I dont see the dev would makes another ship as OP as her anytime soon... it would actually be bad for the game if they do...
@@zerocalvin uh, same damage when? Where? With what? Are we even playing the same game
@@umitatsuya2492 Boss, Arbiter Hard mode and Meta Lv 15, if your Hindenburg isnt capable of doing as much damage as Bismack Zwei, you are misusing her..
@@zerocalvin if urs is. Ur bismarck is complete dogshit
I'm sorry, but it's your Bismarck sucks, not Hinden being OP.
@@UnbelievableLins i'm sorry, but i fail to see how Bismarck sucks when she could do 150k damage on a bad day and 250k damage on a good day... the only other ship that over damager her in my fleet is UvH should do 200k damage on a bad day, 300k damage on a good day...
My Hindenburg do 150k damage on a bad day and 200k damage on a good day.
and my whole fleet consist of Bismarck Zwei, UvH, FdG, Agir, Hindenburg and Emden...
the weakest damager in my fleet is FdG which on a good day only do 150k damage even thought she is using the same gear as Bismarck Zwei.. but again, i'm using a ship design for mobbing on a boss fleet because I have no other option currently.
so tell me, how is my Bismarck sucks and not Hindenburg that is OP? she is a vanguard ship that do much damage as a modern UR Battleship... and you dont see that as OP?
Thank you for still releasing PR6 review! The analysis is a great help for my fleet building!
Glad I could help!
"As BB, she deals with suicide ships"
...
With what exactly, her secondary is a plane 🤔
Kearsarge has HE ghost auxiliary guns azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine#BB/BC/BBV
Flandre might not be the greatest ship in PR6 but she's the best in my heart
waifu>meta
Gotta make a channel called Azur Lane Waifu.
Wait
This one is already about high performance waifu!!
I run Flandre with Richelieu and she slaps Bosses hard. It's unusual for a gold BB nowadays so that's pretty welcome, I actually enjoy using her 😅
Kearsarge is so good against both heavy and light armor with the fact that we have 2 amazing American options for both gun and fighter slots
Yes, the American restriction is not really one. Also not to overlook the fact she can also go with Russian versions, since the new PR7 Russian equipment is looking good too (La-9)
aurora? or avrora? Also the triple 305 is a large cruiser gun not a heavy cruiser gun.
Avrora. And yes I know, my bad I added a pinned comment.
shimanto hurt more than plymouth, she is for me the strongest pr6 because kearsarge relly on what ship you have and what equipment u get, she s not felxible and depend on other ship.
Shimanto is here, she bring stupid tankiness, aa and she deals a ton of damage, i play her alongside jintsu meta and unzen in a torpedo frontlane carry fleet and i think there is no better choice for torpedo (maybe shimakaze if the fight is too short, the longer the figth the better for shimanto)
Untrue
@umitatsuya2492 it is, on the second wave of torp shima to has the same damage as shima and from here she outdamage her
amd for plymouth it s after the first wave
@@gasainagaro6064 do u have ANY proof whatsoever
@umitatsuya2492 bro just try it why would i lie
in a torpedo fleed againt a long fight shimanto is strong because she has no preload but got double torp and a ridiculous barage
stronger than shimakaze that is strong for shorter fight because she got double preload but launch only 1 wave of torp
Please give us videos like this for the other PR as well
PR7 review was released right after this one. ua-cam.com/video/5GN5EjwJ_l4/v-deo.html
@AzurLaneMeta yep, half way through it, amazing work you did. Thank you
Great video, can’t wait for PR7
It's just right around the corner ua-cam.com/video/5GN5EjwJ_l4/v-deo.html
@@AzurLaneMetaW
Best season ❤
Favorite ship from this season?
Hindenburg and Felix made this PR round absolutely killer, especially with the skins for each.
So many Mistakes xD Guam Gun is CB. Hindenburg is CA she cant use Guam gun
Yes, the Guam gun statement was a mistake for certain. What other mistakes constitute the "many" here?
@@AzurLaneMeta Not Many in This Video. But its not uncommon to watch one of your videos and find something where you totally bonked something.
@@AzurLaneMeta Only other thing that sorta popped out at me was in the 406 Mk 6 gun section; you said we just got a 2nd Mk 7 so only build a mk 6 if need a 3rd HE gun... but the Mk 7 got added to the Gear Lab, so can have as many of them as need/afford