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Did This Megaraptor Kill With Its Hands? Or Its Feet? - Maip macrothorax
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2022
- The sands of time work against us. They work at their own pace with their only goal the construction, destruction, and recycling of all matter. Those craggily, sharpened, curved bones of the dinosaurs returned to the earth from whence they came. Along the way they became torn apart beyond recognition. This is what makes the study of their remains so intriguing and why so many of us strive to understand them. It is too bad that things like claws may be the only thing the sands decide to keep as a time capsule. A single piece of evidence that an entire species or animal ever graced the surface of the planet. Ever spent its life looking for food, hunting, loving, mating, sleeping, fighting, or playing. But this is their story, and we have a responsibility to tell it.
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Aranciaga Rolando, A.M., Motta, M.J., Agnolín, F.L. et al. A large Megaraptoridae (Theropoda: Coelurosauria) from Upper Cretaceous (Maastrichtian) of Patagonia, Argentina. Sci Rep 12, 6318 (2022). doi.org/10.1038/s41598-022-09...
Novas, F. E. et al. Paleontological discoveries in the Chorrillo Formation (upper Campanian-lower Maastrichtian, Upper Cretaceous), Santa Cruz Province, Patagonia, Argentina. Rev. Mus. Argent. Cienc. Nat. 21(2), 217-293 (2019).
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Absolutely beautiful artwork shown in this video. Great topic, too, since these critters are often overlooked and ignored. They deserve the attention!
I love watching your stuff, as I hear about so many dinos I haven't heard about anywhere else. The fauna of the dinosaur era is getting very well populated, with a chance for real insight into the way things worked. Very interesting.
Here in argentina there is already at least 14 giant titanosaurs, 4 giant carcharodontosaurids, 1 medium sized spinosaurid from villa las garras, 6 abelisaurids (probably 1 of them will be presented in two months) and what it looks to be a weird hadrosaurid with the head of a pterosaur but all of these haven't been presented to the public yet (except for the spinosaurid one which still has no name) and they didn't make it to international news yet because the remains haven't been dug completely yet.
¿Qué más sabés de ese spinosáurido argentino? Estoy intrigado
@@Wolf-nd4vg There were a few South American spinosaurs I think- one was Oxalaia, a species that closely resembled Spinosaurus in appearance and size, then there was Irritator, which resembled Baryonyx, and finally, Angaturama. However, there’s debate on Irritator and Angaturama being the same dinosaur,
@@Wolf-nd4vg el spinosaurio tenia el tamaño del baryonyx o sea tamaño medio y fue presentado en el nuevo museo de villa las garras pero no le pusieron nombre todavia probablemente le pongan garrasaurio o algo asi
@@Wolf-nd4vg Hola from USA 🇺🇸
That's really cool man! How many teams came to Argentina this year? That's a ridiculously lucky success rate. Also very excited for new finds 😀
I have the Idea of Megaraptorids being convergent evolutionary Counterparts to Spinosaurs
Mm, megaraptoran convergence with tyrannosaurids... but with big ass arms? Hmm... probably one of the most awesomebro animals in life tbh
Megaraptorans are Tyrannosauroids
Allosaurus still and next to nothing with Tyrannosaurids. Certain paleontologists are trying to re-configure the classifications. in order to make Megaraptorids stand out more as T-rex and it relatives are just more popular and get more "FUNDING" for study. Everyone knows that the T-rex family pulls more tourists. This unethical habit is is becoming more and more common.
falcons are related to parrots, old world vultures are distantly related to new world vultures, eagle isn't a formal classification term, the literal whale named saurus, whales being even toed hoofed animals. taxonomy is fun.
Megaraptora are the most immensely underrated and underacknowledged theropod and predator group ~ like essentially they have both the physique of the common carnivores as well as functional arms and claws. They have it all! They are the magnum opus. Yet they receive little attention. Thank you edge for your content ! :]
One dipnote however the recent works once again distanced megaraptora from tyrannosauridae
Yep I agree this is the first time i Heard about this raptor
I love that Kaimere has such a focus on them, well deserved tbh
@@deinocheirusthebestduck5447 Agreed although megaraptor there is a differentiation
@The Philosoraptor Indeed although I am glad that they did not named it after a marvel character lololol
@@thedoruk6324 oh ok.
Imagine of they name it based on a Marvel character lol it's name will be morbiussaur or a lokixyz lol
Deltadromeus was also considered a close relative to Gualicho. Could that make it an African Tyrannosauroid? It's an interesting idea.
wasn't deltadromeus a noosauride ?
@@davidegaruti2582 So was Gualicho for a time, and they were considered close relatives. Unless a head of either can be found, a full classification is difficult to pin down.
@@Deform-2024 The thing that recovered Gualicho as a Tyrannosauroid didn't have any Noasaurids, its a noasaurid just like Deltadromeus. Bahariasaurus, on other hand, is a Tyrannosauroid.
plot twist: Maip crushed its prey with its barrel belly.
Waifuable*
@@elnovillomapuchedehomerus2412 no
@@GamingIndominus i make mangas for a living so it will become a milf maid for my ecchi manga that im working on
@@elnovillomapuchedehomerus2412 Yes I am not alone
@@Dino_king123 why......
I can imagine This raptor slapping he's prey in a Will smith style to kill it's prey lol 😆
I don't think it would have been successful at taking down prey, Chris Rock didn't even flinch! Lol great comment though! 😂
🤣 I'm just gonna call him "Will Smack" from now on, lol
@@ericsfishingadventures4433 we'll
The smack is being use by a mega raptor with sharp claw's so it will probably hurt
@@retard_activated lmao that's a funny name!
@@deinocheirusthebestduck5447 I know. I'm just saying Will Smith slapped like a biotch! Lol
Megaraptorids had more liberty in their arms than any other group of theropods and could move them almost like an human which makes me think that if they were smart enough they could have been able to build and make tools but this is just speculation
...I was under the impression Troodon hold that honor.
Speaking of Troodon, I heard that was no longer a recognized genus. What happened?
@@Pastamist it was a tooth taxon = waste basket
So, how much dexterity did Stenonychosaurus (fka Troodon) possess in it's hands?
well, they lack thumbs, and i wasn't under the impression their brains were all that much larger than other dinosaurs, if any dinosaur used tools, it'd probably been with their mouth, like crows do
Personally I think that Megaraptorans were Carcharodontosaurs because
1. Basal Megaraptorans (Siats, Fukuiraptor, Chilantaisaurus) typically exhibit more Carnosaurian features while more derived species (Megaraptor, Aerosteon, Orkoraptor) are much more Coelurosaurian a perfect example of this is dentition, the basal megaraptoran Fukuiraptor for instance has a very Carnosaurian dentition with thin sharp serrated teeth similar to that of Allosaurus or Giganotosaurus whereas more derived species seem to have much more Coelurosaurian teeth with dentition more similar to that of Tyrannosauroids & Compsognathids
2. A lot of the Coelurosaurian features (such as their (mostly) Coelurosaurian dentition and Tyrannosauroid-like body plan) seem to be surface level, and explainable with convergent evolution, by contrast their Carnosaurian features (such as their bone pneumatization and nasal structure) seem to be more diagnostic of Megaraptorans taxonomic placement.
Thus based on this, Megaraptorans seem to be similar to Nimravids, Hyenas, and other examples of convergent evolution & seem to be a group of Neovenatorid Carnosaurs which convergently evolved more Coelurosaurian traits due to their similar environment & niche
No one asked for an essay
I agree with this and I have more reasons
@@greyideasthetheliopurodon4640 care to elaborate..I would like to hear them. You never hear much from the allosauroidea side of the fence.
@@denzelrogers6570 sorry, I am right now on a long camp, I will respond in a week with a google doc
Chilantaisaurus is a Carcharodontosaurid. And again, You're wrong as there is really a lot of coelurosaurian features in any Megaraptorans + any phylogeny that includes a lot of coelurosaurs Has Megaraptora in coelurosauria
Amazing. You manage to make these kinds of videos even more engaging and entertaining!
10 months and maip's already iconic
I wonder what creatures that live aside Maip macrothorax
sauropods some other herbivores perhaps an unidentified spinosaurid or spinosaurinae but no carcharodontosaurid hence the authors linked the megaraptoran size increase to disappearance of those theropods
@@thedoruk6324 Also it lived at the same time and region as Saltasaurus and Carnotaurus so it’s very possible they interacted as well.
Would this megaraptorid encountered and interacted with any of the paleofauna from the other Maastrichtian formations and bonebeds of Argentina, Chile & Brazil? Including any of the abelisaurs from around this time (Carnotaurus, Kurupi, Niebla & Quilmesaurus)?
Makes me think about lions, hyenas and cheetahs living in the same area and still getting along somewhat well.
Likely it Interacted with Antarctic Peninsula Fauna (Same Biozone) than Patagonian faunas
@@dinoh5538 Such as Antarctopelta and Trinisaura?
@@robrice7246 Yep
Chorrillo and Snow Hill Island Formations belong to the same, continuous and connected, biozone
@@dinoh5538 So no Carnotaurus?
Great video! Very informative and, as others have said, beautiful artwork! 🙌 One thing I wondered about though, is whether you have more information on the fresh water mosasaurs from the Chorrillo Formation you mention at 14:38. I haven't really heard of those before, with the only exception being _Goronyosaurus nigeriensis_ from Nigeria...
Thanks for using My 3d render of maip macrothorax as thumbnail! If You want a 4k resolution versión of it i'll send You the file! I work in nova's team as a technician!
So basically this is the living version of a miniature Indominus Rex, minus all the gene splicing? Seems nature always beats us to the punch.
Now I'm proud to say that the Megaraptoran group is my favorite group of dinosaurs
But yeah this video was very great and I love it,hope y'all have a great day.
This is such an arbitrary thing to notice, but I was particularly struck by the use of 'fingies'-- never a babyword I used to use, but I recently acquired a pair of apex predators (kittens) and I use that word for forbidden toys. Definitely made this video more 'relateable'
I'm not sure if acrocanthosaurs converged on this hunting strategy, they are carcharondontosaurs so there was some overlap possibilities adapting to be smaller after whatever made other carcharodontosaurs extinct.
But the idea that a group of trexs decided they wanted to kill things with their hands and were actually super successful despite the obvious disadvantages is inspiring. You wanna do something do it it doesn't matter think if people think you're stupid
The shadow of the death that kills with cold wind.
That's how successful that species was. The ultimate honour is a badass name.
Homo sapien sapien, wise wise man really? I know like most people leave out the second one cos it's redundant outside of a paleo anthropology context but still it's like we just like we felt we wanted to clarify how wise we were just to rub it in
It's just so petty which feels distinctly human so maybe it's apt
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
I needed to laugh today. You always make me smile, Thank you. 💖💖💖
truly a MEGAraptor
Maip the dino, the much less well known partner of M'aiq the Liar.
The main problem with Megaraptora being Coelurosauria is HOW the got to Southern America and australia, which had been separated by the Northern hemisphere for millions of years, well before the Zuolong happened to evolve.
I mean, the group had been around since at least the middle jurassic, but your statement seems to totally ignore the fact that Coelurosaurs are clearly known from the southern continents, the Unenlagian dromaeosaurus for example. How they got there is pretty irrelevant.
South America had heaps of coelurosaurs besides Megaraptora = Alvarezsaurs, unenlagians, Santanaraptor, Aniksosaurus, Bicentenaria, "Ubirajara" etc.
And having bigger arms and a skull shape more related to the carnosaurs ones
They got there from Asia as first Megaraptorans are from there
@@seanmckelvey6618 nope, first Megaraptorans are from Early Cretaceous
Loved the Eyewitness music!
Great video. The Megaraptorids have to be one of the most interesting and mysterious types of dinosaur. The Tyrannosauroid connection seems the most plausible to me, especially when you compare Megaraptorids to the early tyrannosaurs
How cool is he! Both the claw on the paw and the forelegs are normally developed. And the speed certainly was. The Perfect Killer
"Maip!", is definitely the noise I would make if I came around a corner and was face to face with THAT!
It hasn’t even been a full year since it’s naming and description, yet the damn thing is already in a documentary within NHK productions along with Stegouros.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were related somehow to the tyrannosaur family. Given what you said about the chest. Maybe in the early stages of the tyrannosaur family this particular group split apart by investing more into making their hands as deadly as possible rather than their mouths. Just a theory
You know, I think I've been comparing Megaraptor to baryonyx a lot recently since they both have giant thumb claws and are around the same size
Megaraptor was very briefly considered a spinosauroid relative in the 2000s.
I always get a chuckle when I hear "remains to be seen" on a paleontology video
Oooop a dino channel. Where have you been my whole life? x
Lmao
Based on the environment you describe, please this is just a flash in the pan hypothesis based on your description, could it be that Mail, with its barrel chest and huge claws be an analog to spinosaurids in late cretaceous Patagonia?
How come i never heard of this incredible species!? My god, they are perfect!
They just wanna hug!
+William Harvin more like the huggy wuggies from the playhouse game lol
Funny!
That Eyewitness theme. Such nostalgia.
11:12 : I didn't know my art being used on this video.. also being cropped 🤣🤣😅~~~
7:46
Holy crap, I wasn't expecting this at all!!
Lmaoooo
Maip macrothorax is my new theropod interest (basically i meant favorite but i always change my favorite dinosaur lol)
Who doesn't lol?
i want a game in this environment (like the hell creek game we have). i wanna see mosasaurs and crocodiloforms coexisting.
Path of Titans best I’ve come across
Now i understand one thing about "kawuk"!!! I realize that kawuk is megaraptor who still alive in nusakambangan islan in ondonesian country!!! This channell explain that fossil of megaraptor can be found in australia one of them, and nusakambangan located on the north of australia! Thats makes sense! Megaraptor still alive in nusakambangan! And the native people there called it "kawuk"
Gualicho literally means curse or spell.
Happy National Dinosaur Day, my fellow Dino-Nerds!
Yes
been a huge dinosaur nerd since the age of 5. I'm 23 now and i will continue even if i'm 80 years old. Happy dinosaur day indeed.
@@alioramus1637 Yep!
Happy Dinosaur Day, my fellow Dino Nerd!
Now this is interesting
Megaraptor is such a cool ass name
"Fingies" *Subscribed*
I love the description that you could fit 2 children inside its chest cavity. Brilliant.
I look forward to a quarter of them turning out to be juveniles of other official species, trex style.
"Why do you like dinosaurs and those weird extinct mammals and never shut up about them?" "My dear it is my duty, my responsibility."
The most terrifying looking dinosaur
I love all kinds of megaraptor news cause they look like wacky goofed up tyrannosaurs
My favorite megaraptorian is Austrelovenator
Me clicking the video and wondering why I wasn’t subscribed.
Imagine running from mieap and saying aaahh it’s a mieap
Awwe how cute with their torso slashing talons
I think the long bone the man is holding is a tooth either from a Python or a Sabour tooth tiger, it’s a massive find
Those are two completely different animals my dude.
Since maip macrothorax lived at the same time period is t-Rex there was a possibility’s then a individual of both species could have encountered each other in the continents I mean there were small island that there were sent collegate to the contents
That is Very unlikely
@@xstar9567 true, but not impossible
✨Engagement✨
Great pronunciation and that is no small feat.
ARGENTINA EL MAS GRANDE PAPA !!!!!
Megaraptor was my favorite for a long time, until I ment ambotyerx. But Megaraptor remains my second favorite
They look allosaurus like
nice.
Eyewitness theme.
Argentinans are also americans, you know.
Thanotoristis DeGrootim is Canadian thank you very much!
Tyranno-titan. It just rings right
Megaraptors, as all raptors, grasped their preys with their claws to immobilize and bite them, that's all.
What Irony
The guys that are all Bite and no Arm are closest related to those that are all Arm but no Bite
15:50 but after they went extinct their relatives the birds and the crocodylomorphs became the new apex predators in South America.
I prefer the Castro Fidelibro Ligaments
South America had so many weird and wonderful creatures when it was an island continent.
especially during the first half of the Cenozoic, in many parts of the world almost all the niches left by the non-avian dinosaurs were filled by placental mammals and well South America did had may placental mammals there where mostly herbivorous. the predatory niches on the other hand where filled by other archosaurs and metatherian mammals.
South America was not the only place of impressive fossils.
@@rodrigopinto6676 it's just that I find if fascinating that in the first half of the Cenozoic South America was still dominated by archosaurs predatorily and the metatherians which had been mostly replaced by placentals became small to medium sized predators.
@@gattycroc8073 there are also africa and southern asia but due to those places being extremely unstable and volatile we cant have proper fossil extractions
Idk you can find out by going back in time to go see
I herd that dryptosaurs Might be in this group and it’s possible
It is impossible
Omg that's so sad... did it die of Lig-Ma?
.......and being coelurosaurs they were probably feathered.
Could have possibly tackled larger prey like Nullotitan
Is it me or does this species look like the fictitious Indoraptor from Jurassic Park ?
The most professional paleontologist: Long Fingies
real life deathclaw
Did he just say fingys 😭? 3:56
Pretty sure I'd want something in the .30 cal range if I wanted to not die from one of these. Or a 8 gauge shotgun...maybe the KS23, that russian 20MM one that's built from AA gun barrels...
I'm pretty sure a .308 would be more than enough to ensure adequate penetration. I'm not so sure you need a prison riot gun (KS23) to deal with them, given that even compared to other shotguns it was designed for especially close ranges with a wide spread.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 KS23 uses 6 gauge equivalent shells; it was designed to clear a entire corridor, so its range is pretty much the same as any shotgun, likely even better given it's great mass of buck/bird, and extended barrel.
I've seen stated ranges with buckshot of 100 meters plus, without chokes being added.
@@Shinzon23
Extended? It's 14" on the production models.
The two main shells for the KS23 are quoted as having 10 and 25 metre ranges respectively. 35 metres is more typical with buckshot.
Rifling is known to increase spread. Consider the job it was designed for, spread and volume of shot seem like more important considerations, even if they're at the cost of range.
Like you say, it was designed to clear corridors - it's job is to fill an entire hallway with shot and it's fair to trade range to ensure one doesn't need several follow-up shots to cover the entire area if that's the main job. It's not like prisoners have ranged weapons of their own.
Maip is more or less an ‘accurate’ Indominus Rex
an animal That was predicted by Spec-Evo projects.
How so?
@@EDGEscience Kaimere
Them hands
Jean Claude von Megaraptor
''Fingies''... Noun (fingers); also a directive to be aware of your finger placement so as to not fuckulate them in a pinch point. :P
No mention of my find of 'Tiny Weenie Huggyraptor" sad emogie.
The last thing we need is a raptor with yaoi hands.
Boysloveraptor
Macro Thorax. Sounds like my ex.
Gualicho is found to rest within tyrannosauroidea as a sister taxon to tyrannosauridae during the description of Maip. If true, this raises an unbelievable possibility, that Tyrannosaurid ancestors may have originated from south America before spreading to north America & Asia though it should be taken with a a grain of salt but considering that the ancestors of alamosaurus are believed to have originated from south America & the numerous hadrosaur fossils found there, it might be possible. On the other hand it could be just a weird evolutionary experiment where the dinosaur lost its third hand claw during its evolution.
It is because authors of that phylogeny barely had any Noasaur characters
the megaraptor looks more like a dromeosour then what the dromeosour you compared the megaraptor with. !!!!!!!
+Robert Power its head resembles more like allosaurids and carcharodontosaurids. Despite the authors and slightly edge's proclivity to relate megaraptors with tyrannosauridae there was another study that distance it from the tyrannosauridae and placed it on a way much more generalized group
@@thedoruk6324 I never sed any thing about the head but the dus look somewhat like a allasouris mixst with a raptor head. I was talking about the body and feet and hands.
Doesn't matter the paleoloxodon namadicus will kill it- just kidding lol
It probably look like what the doruk said but probably in the next few years he will know what these amazing creatures actually look like
@@robertpower8105 Okay than
@@thedoruk6324 okay but EVERY phylogeny with Megaraptora in Carcharodontosauria has almost no coelurosaurs
I wonder if megaraptorans are closely related to therazinasaurs
Not at all.
what about chilantaisaurus is it a megaraptorid or neovenatorid
The paper finds Chilantaisaurus to be a basal carcharodontosaurid (sister-taxon to Concavenator). It is not related to Megaraptora, which are resolved as coelurosaurs.
Were abelosaurids not their rivals in South America after the fall of the carcharodontids?
Abelisaurids and Megaraptorans were rivals
@@xstar9567 Tiny arms versus BIG-ASS ARMS
yes
You sure about biggest? I recalla giant megaraptorid remaining undescribed, but often referred to
It is The biggest definitive named Megaraptoran
yeah bahariasaurus maybe