Oh damn.. oh damn... I was kicked out of many groups because I questioned them... Now I know I did the right thing... Never realised this kind of thinking had a name..
same, until I found out about this I became depressed over a final project. they started call me negative and bullied me till I agreed. thought I was a bad person and cried for two weeks straight...
Pedophiles can say the same thing and they question the status quo of hating abusing children. I don’t think being outcasted is 100% equatable to morally in the right against “group think.” Sometimes bad things and evils need to be shunned... Just because you went against a group of people doesn’t mean you are fighting group think...
Many years ago I was involved in baseline studies for an important chemical engineering project in Spain. All the team were congratulating themselves when the project finally got the green light, slapping themselves on the back and saying things like "this will be a winner!" All except an engineer called Bill who tried to point out that the water supply, critical to the plant design, had been assessed during a very wet year. They couldn't wait to get rid of him, "not a team player" and "loose cannon" etc. It turned out that Bill was right and the project failed as water had to be purchased from local authorities adding significantly to the costs.
@Evan Shlom I guarantee that you will never get this level of detail in an interview. You might get indications from comments like "there were staffing problems at XYZ" - this equates to "the boss was the problem". Many modern corporations want to recruit people that are ambitious but vulnerable. This type of person wants to succeed but is afraid of losing the job and will accede to being exploited and participate in groupthink.
Yes. I have been a part of Group Think when my college friends produced stupid ideas, i just said 'yes' because of i didn't want to FEEL left-out & to gain acceptance from my College-group.
Both as a psychology major and a person who was a part of a religious cult for 14 years. I can truly say that group think is a fascinating subject in the field of psychology. Mostly due to the fact that I had prior involvement in said organization for so long in a group think concept. Only I didn't realize that this was a backbone concept of the group. Mostly willingly so from ministry and leadership in the organization and unknowingly by its congregants. It's fascinating to me how easy it is to become involved in a group think scenario. Which is why as a psych student I find group think to be my preferred area of study
I have never let myself involved in groupthink. I am ALWAYS filtering everything that is coming to m through my own thinking and reason. And I do it for at least 3 times before I make a decision.
Every company in the planet should bring spaces and time to employees and teams to discuss and learn about this so important topic. Great content! Thanks a lot! ❤
This is what Google and every other social media platform employees radiate! they should put that on their resume (fanatastic impressionable hard working group thinker)
You know all the bad things of group think is very useful in other circumstances Don't disagree or question the goal of your group. Group think is about not breaking the spell. But the tricks to keep the spell intact, can be used in many other ways. illusion of invulnerability, Stereotyping others, Self-censorship are very useful when used in the right way. illusion of invulnerability is also called optimism. Instead of mocking a risky engineer or a married couple. We should honor their gamble and hope they are the one which will succeed. Let thousand flowers bloom, because we don't know which one is the best. Stereotyping others isn't what you describe. stereotypes can be better than you. What you describe is superiority bias. The believe that you are above the flock making you trick investors. The best liar it the one who believe his own lies. Self-censorship is also called think before you talk. This is priceless in most groups, otherwise everyone would say stupid things to often. False consensus is called the curse of knowledge Unquestioned belief is called faith Direct pressure is called a loaded question. Rationalizing is justifying beliefs Mind guarding is avoiding falsification
Great video. I'm the owner of a Facebook page Groupthink Challenger, and would love to post this video on my page. But before I do, I just want to make sure that you were the one who contacted me earlier with the link.
Groupthink=cigarette smokers. Cowardly & sometimes seems to be the dominant trait in certain groups. In construction school there only 2 out of 30 that did not smoke. I could tell you much about the make of their character...
Great video. Very colorful and enjoyable content. The only thing that I felt would have been more helpful is the definitions for the eight symptoms. I don't think I have been a part of groupthink lol, as far as I know. Thank you.
Groupthink is strong with a lot of things. Stop trying to bad mouth religion as if its only a bad thing. Many people lived great lives thanks to religious beliefs. The video started out talking about Apple Products and groupthink spans a wealth of socioeconomic and political systems.
Great outline of a subject that many people are not aware of ! I've known this term for a long time. I experienced group think at the Boy Scout Pinewood Derby when I was a kid. My favorite color was (it still is) and my pinewood derby car was painted orange. When I got to the Derby - I discovered that all the other kids had stripes on their cars, or a decal number on the side, or pinned on head of a race car driver with a helmet on, tiny roll bars, tiny exhaust pipes sticking out the back, etc. The kids kinda chided me a bit for my car being just plain orange with the wheels nailed on it...it was nicely rounded on the front tho (super sleek aerodynamic !) and the paint was super glossy too. --- I felt like I needed to fit in so I borrowed this kids red and blue markers and drew stripes on the back top area ruunning straight to the back of the car. One red stripe in the middle and blues stripes on each side. It made me feel better, but I was like 8 or 9 yrs old and kept getting the marker on my hands and slightly and accidentally smearing some of the marker etc. Looking back I totally was willing to change something that I was so proud of bc my dad and I worked on and made it together...no biggy. ---- The good news is out of the 150 to 200 kids there...i won 3rd place and still have the trophy ! They made fun of me for the orange color car and no decorations but I had the last laugh ! Again, great video !!!!
I know it was supposed to be a bad example but I've been on the internet long enough to know it would absolutely gobble up that "used tissue" idea, but for reasons I don't think would have occurred to whatever sweet summer child decided it should be the example XD
it is a part of our human nature. It is something that will inevitably be imprinted on you at some point in your life. There is no real way to escape this because no human is consciously aware or able to control or govern every single good or bad element in life affecting his or her mind or behaviour at any given moment, social or otherwise. Some the world's most intelligent people, people with some of the highest mental acumen and acuity aren't able to master this. Perspective is balance and everything requires it. There is a time to speak your mind, disagree or show resistance by either word or action. There is also a time when I'll decide to remain and going along with your idea because maybe it really does make sense. And even if it doesn't I'll still remain just to see how it plays out, because who am to constantly speak out against or put down your hopes or dreams just because a bunch of idiots who subscribe to GROUPTHINK says I should???😂😂😂
Some people are more gullible than others because of their inherent personality traits (OCEAN) and lived experiences. I'm naturally disagreeable and can smell BS a mile away because I grew up in a high crime area and saw scammers working in real-time. I am therefore quite skeptical of most people.
Nazi Germany is the glaring example that anyone could look at for a clear cut version of group think ! The good thing is that most of my life people have called me a non-conformist ! A label I'm happy to own !
Bryan G it’s way bigger than that. This might just be a very small example, but group think explains major parts and ideas of all political belief systems. It’s the root of religion, sports, traditions, it’s intrinsically linked to all of human culture. And the explanation for so much of the stupid things we have done as a species.
And the libertarian said: "I don't care what you do, you can launch this crap if you want to, but I'm out of here" The campaign was launched, but then it was closed after the police knocked down the door and demanded a license for selling used tissues.
Even if this business makes 22 million dollars, it will still be a failure. The direct pressure borders on gaslighting. They're also making several entrepreneur mistakes. Entrepreneurship has unique requirements, such as being yourself, not taking orders, being experienced, and having product-market fit. I think they're also inexperienced in the used tissue business. That's an additional entrepreneurship mistake. I recommend not entering that industry.
Oh damn.. oh damn... I was kicked out of many groups because I questioned them... Now I know I did the right thing... Never realised this kind of thinking had a name..
same, until I found out about this I became depressed over a final project. they started call me negative and bullied me till I agreed. thought I was a bad person and cried for two weeks straight...
@@cara5764 I'm really sorry hearing about your story. As a victim too, I feel bad for you
@@cara5764 sorry that happened to you
Pedophiles can say the same thing and they question the status quo of hating abusing children.
I don’t think being outcasted is 100% equatable to morally in the right against “group think.”
Sometimes bad things and evils need to be shunned...
Just because you went against a group of people doesn’t mean you are fighting group think...
Many years ago I was involved in baseline studies for an important chemical engineering project in Spain. All the team were congratulating themselves when the project finally got the green light, slapping themselves on the back and saying things like "this will be a winner!" All except an engineer called Bill who tried to point out that the water supply, critical to the plant design, had been assessed during a very wet year. They couldn't wait to get rid of him, "not a team player" and "loose cannon" etc. It turned out that Bill was right and the project failed as water had to be purchased from local authorities adding significantly to the costs.
Great example George. Thank you for sharing.
@@adt4025 Thanks, - it was a "wet" year, my mistake!
@Evan Shlom I guarantee that you will never get this level of detail in an interview. You might get indications from comments like "there were staffing problems at XYZ" - this equates to "the boss was the problem". Many modern corporations want to recruit people that are ambitious but vulnerable. This type of person wants to succeed but is afraid of losing the job and will accede to being exploited and participate in groupthink.
@evanshlom1
You seriously think in an interview, your prospective job will admit to this type of behavior if you asked?
I have an exam in psychology tomorrow and this was great!
Mari Regine same
I need to contact you for a small collab Regine.
Same here :)
Hello from 2024! I hope you aced it!
Yes. I have been a part of Group Think when my college friends produced stupid ideas, i just said 'yes' because of i didn't want to FEEL left-out & to gain acceptance from my College-group.
Eek, noooo. Worse decisions. I usually will have a counterpoint for any dump idea. You just need to learn how to get your piont across.
Group think is how our jury system works. That is why it fails to produce justice so often.
Yeah I agree
Really , "used tissues" but no doubt , it is the best example for explaining "group-think" to students. THANKS..😊👍😊
Thank you so much guys!! People like you make this world a better place!! Great content keep it up!!!
I just came here for a class I talking about, and we have to discuss it, but I would never thought it could be this wild. Learn a lot.
BEST VID EVR man i was falling asleep with the other lecture vids on YT
Please make more short introductions on social psychology terminology. I learned more in this video then I did in class with my professor. Thank you.
Both as a psychology major and a person who was a part of a religious cult for 14 years. I can truly say that group think is a fascinating subject in the field of psychology. Mostly due to the fact that I had prior involvement in said organization for so long in a group think concept. Only I didn't realize that this was a backbone concept of the group. Mostly willingly so from ministry and leadership in the organization and unknowingly by its congregants. It's fascinating to me how easy it is to become involved in a group think scenario. Which is why as a psych student I find group think to be my preferred area of study
PussNuggets Mormonism was hard for me to get out of too.
I have never let myself involved in groupthink. I am ALWAYS filtering everything that is coming to m through my own thinking and reason. And I do it for at least 3 times before I make a decision.
Every company in the planet should bring spaces and time to employees and teams to discuss and learn about this so important topic. Great content! Thanks a lot! ❤
This is what Google and every other social media platform employees radiate! they should put that on their resume (fanatastic impressionable hard working group thinker)
You know all the bad things of group think is very useful in other circumstances
Don't disagree or question the goal of your group. Group think is about not breaking the spell. But the tricks to keep the spell intact, can be used in many other ways. illusion of invulnerability, Stereotyping others, Self-censorship are very useful when used in the right way.
illusion of invulnerability is also called optimism. Instead of mocking a risky engineer or a married couple. We should honor their gamble and hope they are the one which will succeed. Let thousand flowers bloom, because we don't know which one is the best.
Stereotyping others isn't what you describe. stereotypes can be better than you. What you describe is superiority bias. The believe that you are above the flock making you trick investors. The best liar it the one who believe his own lies.
Self-censorship is also called think before you talk. This is priceless in most groups, otherwise everyone would say stupid things to often.
False consensus is called the curse of knowledge
Unquestioned belief is called faith
Direct pressure is called a loaded question.
Rationalizing is justifying beliefs
Mind guarding is avoiding falsification
Interesting
"Brainstorming" is the opposite of "groupthink".
Collective Intelligence, demosophy.
is there a link to their kickstarter csmpaign? i woukd really like to buy some. )))
This was amazing, and the illustrations were fantastic, thank you!
8 symptoms of GroupThink:
1. illusion of invulnerability
2. stereotyping others
3. self censorship
4. illusion of unanimity
5. unquestioned belief
6. direct pressure
7. rationalizing
8. mind-guard : prevent dissent
Most organisations practice it as it is mistaken for hurting the boss’s ego and being sidelined
Fabulous examples on explaining underlying factors that create a groupthink!
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Today during COVID is a great example!
Great video. I'm the owner of a Facebook page Groupthink Challenger, and would love to post this video on my page. But before I do, I just want to make sure that you were the one who contacted me earlier with the link.
Hi Eric, thanks for saying hello. Yes, it was us that contacted you :)
i dont remember groupthink because i always go against the crowd
I was involved in groupthink because there was a time where i would agree to everything that people say because i didn't want to be an outcast
Snappy, informative & relevant. Thanks guys!
wow!!!! I'm learning a lot
I have been, knowingly just to avoid running into problems with some people 'who think they know everything'
This is gold!
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This is a pretty great informative video, thanks
Anyone who has lived a decade has played every role in that video
If you still engage in this past a certain age, you need therapy imo. It's giving Cluster B and low EQ
Yeah I have been part of groupthink back in high school.
always say what you think. rock the boat.
Thanks for a brilliant business idea!
This is hilarious and so helpful:)
This i great! Errr, umm... YES! Fine job!
this is a great and well explained video.
The best one 👍👍
Thank you madamfor your introducing Group Thinking
Being a part of a group that comes with stupid ides is the worst
bottom line, need strong character and use critical thinking to brainstorm and argue from both sides = Common sense
They need to change the name to uncommon sense at this point
Groupthink=cigarette smokers. Cowardly & sometimes seems to be the dominant trait in certain groups. In construction school there only 2 out of 30 that did not smoke. I could tell you much about the make of their character...
Silva is def the hero of this story :D
very cool video would like to know where to buy these used tissues
Ótimo exemplo!
Thanks! It's very helpful ! I'm studying this term now. ;)
Great video, but amazing drawings, honestly!
Great video. Very colorful and enjoyable content. The only thing that I felt would have been more helpful is the definitions for the eight symptoms. I don't think I have been a part of groupthink lol, as far as I know.
Thank you.
Interesting ❤
well explained! so so so grateful for this
I never cared about being an outcast. I never will. I don't want to be a xerox copy of a group. I like who I am.
A very good friend of mine had a funny saying, "Do you know what the problem with common sense is? .. It's not very common."
Great breakdown!
Whats the name for the moment wenn Melissandre takes off her ruby-necklace, what illusion is that?
So how many units did they ship?
yes i have been in a groupthink.
Groupthink is strong with religion.
Groupthink is strong with a lot of things. Stop trying to bad mouth religion as if its only a bad thing. Many people lived great lives thanks to religious beliefs. The video started out talking about Apple Products and groupthink spans a wealth of socioeconomic and political systems.
This your groupthink
That's why you *think for yourself.*
I should send this to my entire organization...(LOL)
Well if they do make a e-bay like site for celebrities to sell their used tissues and stuff like that, it might actually not be a bad idea lol
True. Exploiting the groupthink of celebrity worshippers
My life in the military
This has definitely happened to me.
THE LEGAL INDUSTRY!
Here’s why I’m okay with thinking opposite of the group. 😂😂😂😂😂
Great outline of a subject that many people are not aware of ! I've known this term for a long time. I experienced group think at the Boy Scout Pinewood Derby when I was a kid. My favorite color was (it still is) and my pinewood derby car was painted orange. When I got to the Derby - I discovered that all the other kids had stripes on their cars, or a decal number on the side, or pinned on head of a race car driver with a helmet on, tiny roll bars, tiny exhaust pipes sticking out the back, etc. The kids kinda chided me a bit for my car being just plain orange with the wheels nailed on it...it was nicely rounded on the front tho (super sleek aerodynamic !) and the paint was super glossy too.
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I felt like I needed to fit in so I borrowed this kids red and blue markers and drew stripes on the back top area ruunning straight to the back of the car. One red stripe in the middle and blues stripes on each side. It made me feel better, but I was like 8 or 9 yrs old and kept getting the marker on my hands and slightly and accidentally smearing some of the marker etc. Looking back I totally was willing to change something that I was so proud of bc my dad and I worked on and made it together...no biggy.
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The good news is out of the 150 to 200 kids there...i won 3rd place and still have the trophy ! They made fun of me for the orange color car and no decorations but I had the last laugh ! Again, great video !!!!
I am convinced
This Is Good....Unknowingly I Was
i was once involved in a group think unknowingly
I know it was supposed to be a bad example but I've been on the internet long enough to know it would absolutely gobble up that "used tissue" idea, but for reasons I don't think would have occurred to whatever sweet summer child decided it should be the example XD
Not a part of group think but certainly a victim of it in my job.
Aus Bare Quit that job. You deserve better.
Well explained !
This is awesome
That's how multi level Outhouse management works.
You just described every step that led to the Jan 6 attack. Thanks for posting - we needed this.
Have i been a part of group think??? uhhh... Only multiple times a day. Who hasnt???
thank you
we are so much better than other people for knowing this. ha ha ha ..
The Sheep looking at Apple products was hilarious
I didn't understand what is stereotyped views can anyone explain it to me?
Yes. 😊
It’s peer pressure for adults
Well Done!
More reel than you can feel! Signed, self sensor… :)
it is a part of our human nature. It is something that will inevitably be imprinted on you at some point in your life. There is no real way to escape this because no human is consciously aware or able to control or govern every single good or bad element in life affecting his or her mind or behaviour at any given moment, social or otherwise. Some the world's most intelligent people, people with some of the highest mental acumen and acuity aren't able to master this.
Perspective is balance and everything requires it. There is a time to speak your mind, disagree or show resistance by either word or action. There is also a time when I'll decide to remain and going along with your idea because maybe it really does make sense. And even if it doesn't I'll still remain just to see how it plays out, because who am to constantly speak out against or put down your hopes or dreams just because a bunch of idiots who subscribe to GROUPTHINK says I should???😂😂😂
Some people are more gullible than others because of their inherent personality traits (OCEAN) and lived experiences. I'm naturally disagreeable and can smell BS a mile away because I grew up in a high crime area and saw scammers working in real-time. I am therefore quite skeptical of most people.
Thank you!
Awesome, Thanks alot🙏🏻
Nazi Germany is the glaring example that anyone could look at for a clear cut version of group think ! The good thing is that most of my life people have called me a non-conformist ! A label I'm happy to own !
Why look so far into the past when the Israelis of today are no better than their so called oppressors?
You just described the entirety of liberalism
Bryan G it’s way bigger than that. This might just be a very small example, but group think explains major parts and ideas of all political belief systems. It’s the root of religion, sports, traditions, it’s intrinsically linked to all of human culture. And the explanation for so much of the stupid things we have done as a species.
Is this trying to stop me from using Apple?
Group think. China needs us. Ignore the fact that the country was around for thousands of years without us.
To use this knowledge against society
Seems to be the case of the entire world - modern workplaces, right wing politics, left wing politics, identity politics etc
Well I actually enjoy saying things that rock the group. (So maybe I made other people victims of group think, YIKES!).
And the libertarian said: "I don't care what you do, you can launch this crap if you want to, but I'm out of here"
The campaign was launched, but then it was closed after the police knocked down the door and demanded a license for selling used tissues.
Procreation = groupthink on a global scale.
Can you elaborate ? How procreation is groupthink ?
"We all know thats the lamest idea ever" This did not age well.
What do you call conformity that lead to good results? common sense?
jakob jørgensen Damn, that’s good.
In the age of selling used underwear and used bath water, this idea isn't too farfetched.
Even if this business makes 22 million dollars, it will still be a failure. The direct pressure borders on gaslighting. They're also making several entrepreneur mistakes. Entrepreneurship has unique requirements, such as being yourself, not taking orders, being experienced, and having product-market fit. I think they're also inexperienced in the used tissue business. That's an additional entrepreneurship mistake. I recommend not entering that industry.
How bad ideas can spread when nobody speaks out