Yea, his post-Peter Green time in the band (‘71-‘72) was when he really shined creatively. He did incredible work on Then Play On through, but so did Peter. When Peter was still in the band, Peter was by far the biggest creative driving force.
Look at Peter with heavy heart and you see and hear how disapointet from all around him ,no one understood him , no one fightet with or for him , all only show , but he was realy somethingelse ,wonderful musican , songwriter and man, like you don't finde again 💚💚💚
You don't mention that some really great songs like station man and sands of time came out after Peter Green left. Danny Kirwans guitar playing at that was fabulous, check those two songs out 😁
Danny was a great songwriter and played some amazingly haunting guitar. Maybe the Mac story is too full, but the fact is, Danny was that bridge to their later success. His playing, like Peter's, still gives me chills. Cheers. Rest in peace, Danny!
People who knew him said he was kind of withdrawn, quiet,and kept to himself. He wasn't a "showman" who tooted his own horn or demanded attention. He was happy just playing and being part of a really great and cool band. He was just a young kid - a young kid who could do things with a guitar that few have or ever will. He kept a quiet low profile. The greatest compliment to DK is that his music will always live on and be appreciated by those of us who know his gifts. I have no kids yet, but when I do, they will hear and experience Danny's music. They deserve to hear pure musical magic. His music is TIMELESS and should be shared and enjoyed forever.
A clear explanation on how the Peter Green shaped unit of FM came apart. I thought that he was an incredible showman & lead for them; it was sad how things ended but the songs live on. "Black Magic Woman", "Oh Well", "Man of the World", "Albatross" - all unique and classic. Still sounds fresh & tight today. Really shows how their musicianship was their strength and that is why they have lasted, through all the changes. Chilling conclusion with Jeremy Spencer; he provided many rockabilly licks.
I love Peter Green's Need Your Love So Bad. And Green Manalishi reminds me of getting absolutely pissed every Saturday afternoon as a teenager running wild. But Man of the World is so heartbreaking, it's like he's crying out for help.
Yeah, Man of the World has a very melancholy chord progression. It fgoe ssomething like D major Aadd11 Gm D(major)... Dmajor Aadd11 Gm Em Bm7 (G E and B might be in the wrong order.. but it's really those 3 chords which clench it.. ) and of course the very great bass playing by John, very thumpy tone.. great melody and lyrics.. Bridge goes F#m Em back and forth.. (And I need a good woman..) :) Anyway yea
"God damn the pusher" I had my drink spiked with acid too....luckily for me it was a pleasant and one off experience...but I could have been killed however crashing a motor bike into an ongoing car attracted by the headlights...for Peter Green it possibly ruined the rest of his life.
I saw them in 1970 in Vermont with the line up John and Mick on bass and drums and with Danny Kirwan and Jeremy Spencer on guitars and Christine MacVie on piano. They were really good I thought but seemed somewhat impaired and burned out as well as insecure. John MacVie broke a string on his bass and left the stage in the middle of a song and Danny Kirwan said " My bass player just walked off the stage." At the time I had never heard of Peter Green or heard any of their previous music. I really liked them just the way they were and I could tell they were very talented. Later I would hear of Peter Green and hear all their other music. I can't find any of it I don't like. My favorite album is Bare Trees.
Why? Is it important to be popular? Shallow thought process. His music was not pop shite, so it had a limited, musically adept audience. Peter himself was uncomfortable with the notoriety he had.
I didn't learn about Peter Green and the original Fleetwood Mac until my mid 20s. Mostly thanks to the internet (and streaming downloads). The only early Fleetwood Mac song I knew was Albatross, and somehow I figured it was just Lindsay Buckingham playing it from the late 70s. I'd occaisionally heard "oh well"; but I didn't know it was Fleetwood Mac. And I only knew Santana's version of black magic woman (thinking it was his original). I wish I'd known about him and his incredible music (along with Spencer & Kirwan's music) when I was 12 years old. I would've added this amazing music to the Hendrix, Cream, Blind Faith, Jeff Beck Group, early Led Zeppelin that I immersed myself in and tried desperately to master myself. What I'd like to know is why they never mentioned him in Guitar world magazne. They never shut up about Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton and Mick Taylor (along with the likes of Randy Roades, Joe Satriani, Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Ted Nugent, etc), but I don't remember them ever even mentioning Peter Green.
I've heard he was already having emotional problems, as was Danny. The rest of the band did tons of psychedelics as well I believe. Especially when they all lived together. I think it was just as much the "mind games" that anarchist group staged. There is an interesting movie about Uschi Whats-her-Name. She was part of that commune.
Almost all of these documentaries leave out tons of info and miss so much, such as Danny Kirwan who barely is mentioned. They should leave these things to actual die-hard fans of the band, diehards of all eras of them, or at least consult them.
Yeah I like it a lot. I think that the Spencer & Kirwan led Fleetwood Mac could've made some more great music in the early 70s had Spencer not lost his marbles and deserted. It needed another track or two though, it's too short.
He did'nt need someone in a warm bed if you had buy him a ticket to Nepal ,there he would have soundet instead let him go to terrible Establishments who, broke him(,,and cults are also a very bad choice , )
do some research.they did sell more lp's than the stones and beatles combined..and they wasnt just an underground band.......u'll look a lot less foolish is u speak about something that u know about
The bloke exaggerates - they weren't THAT big in the sixties - Please...bigger than the Beatles and Stones?? come on. They were mainly underground with a small core fan base that slowly grew - to a mediocre rock band status. But they did have a handfull of decent songs in the 70's.
He didn't say they were bigger. They just sold more units in 1969. Fleetwood Mac went downhill after Peter Green left and then was completely destroyed when those chicks joined. Listen and watch again when you're not drunk.
Fleetwood Mac did NOT outsell the Beatles and Stones in 1969. Only in UK singles sales could you say this was true. Both the Beatles and The Stones swamped FM in album sales in 1969. Very misleading claim.
From hearing Peter talk about his own LSD-25 use, I highly doubt he was "spiked" in Munich. But yes there were analogues , in fact still are around, of LSD , or similarly-acting copmounds like DOX which refers to DOA, DOB, DOC... mainly, look em up on wikipedia if you want. They're psychedelic amphetamines instead of LSD, which is not.. but very similar effects but way way easier to overdose on. Sorry for my poor grammar, but yea.. I've got some experience I believe with one of the DOX drugs, and with acid.. a blotter strip i bought years back which had 50 hits seemed to be a combination somehow of LSD and some tabs had DOB or some such drug.. and it could be quite overwhelming. One way to tell if it's DOX is that DOX makes you incredibly horny, but LSD-25 not so much.
Peter Green playing and singing slow blues is just boring. Sorry, but its true. He was not a blues man, he was a blues rock player and came alive on faster numbers. The Peter Green era is over rated by nostalgia heads. Lindsay is an infinitely better guitar play and the Buckingham Nicks era is infinitely better musically. No contest.
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Danny became the main songwriter and the bridge to the band's later success. It's wonderful to see some fans who recognize this fact!
Yea, his post-Peter Green time in the band (‘71-‘72) was when he really shined creatively. He did incredible work on Then Play On through, but so did Peter. When Peter was still in the band, Peter was by far the biggest creative driving force.
RIP Peter Green, Bob Weston, Danny Kirwan and Bob Welch.
God bless Christine McVie.
Had the pleasure of meeting peter in 1998 and watching him perform with his splinter group,it was a great night
There really is NO Fleetwood Mac WITHOUT Peter Green 😢 💔
He's the greatest bass player I have ever heard. So melodic...
Look at Peter with heavy heart and you see and hear how disapointet from all around him ,no one understood him , no one fightet with or for him , all only show , but he was realy somethingelse ,wonderful musican , songwriter and man, like you don't finde again 💚💚💚
Danny Kirwan always looked like he was having the most fun anyone could have
Really? He looked really sad in most of the photos I have seen. He had very sensitive eyes.
You don't mention that some really great songs like station man and sands of time came out after Peter Green left. Danny Kirwans guitar playing at that was fabulous, check those two songs out 😁
I wish that this documentary would include more about Danny Kirwan, who was a force of nature and a great musician. Why is he ignored?
Don't know, but Rock In Peace, Danny.
Danny was a great songwriter and played some amazingly haunting guitar. Maybe the Mac story is too full, but the fact is, Danny was that bridge to their later success. His playing, like Peter's, still gives me chills. Cheers. Rest in peace, Danny!
Because people don't know what music is, bro!
People who knew him said he was kind of withdrawn, quiet,and kept to himself. He wasn't a "showman" who tooted his own horn or demanded attention. He was happy just playing and being part of a really great and cool band. He was just a young kid - a young kid who could do things with a guitar that few have or ever will. He kept a quiet low profile.
The greatest compliment to DK is that his music will always live on and be appreciated by those of us who know his gifts. I have no kids yet, but when I do, they will hear and experience Danny's music. They deserve to hear pure musical magic. His music is TIMELESS and should be shared and enjoyed forever.
I agree.even a history of the band itself ignores the mighty DANNY KIRWAN' such a shame
A clear explanation on how the Peter Green shaped unit of FM came apart. I thought that he was an incredible showman & lead for them; it was sad how things ended but the songs live on. "Black Magic Woman", "Oh Well", "Man of the World", "Albatross" - all unique and classic. Still sounds fresh & tight today. Really shows how their musicianship was their strength and that is why they have lasted, through all the changes. Chilling conclusion with Jeremy Spencer; he provided many rockabilly licks.
Peter Green. Ahhh. What a life. Love to see him here. Great.
I love Peter Green's Need Your Love So Bad. And Green Manalishi reminds me of getting absolutely pissed every Saturday afternoon as a teenager running wild. But Man of the World is so heartbreaking, it's like he's crying out for help.
Yeah, Man of the World has a very melancholy chord progression. It fgoe ssomething like D major Aadd11 Gm D(major)... Dmajor Aadd11 Gm Em Bm7 (G E and B might be in the wrong order.. but it's really those 3 chords which clench it.. ) and of course the very great bass playing by John, very thumpy tone.. great melody and lyrics..
Bridge goes F#m Em back and forth.. (And I need a good woman..) :) Anyway yea
Rock n roll is a vicious game....rip peter
"Peter Green's protege Danny Kirwan joined as third guitarist." That's it?? No character development, no backstory. 0:05
So heavy Judas Priest covers your song. That rock.
"God damn the pusher" I had my drink spiked with acid too....luckily for me it was a pleasant and one off experience...but I could have been killed however crashing a motor bike into an ongoing car attracted by the headlights...for Peter Green it possibly ruined the rest of his life.
I saw them in 1970 in Vermont with the line up John and Mick on bass and drums and with Danny Kirwan and Jeremy Spencer on guitars and Christine MacVie on piano. They were really good I thought but seemed somewhat impaired and burned out as well as insecure. John MacVie broke a string on his bass and left the stage in the middle of a song and Danny Kirwan said " My bass player just walked off the stage." At the time I had never heard of Peter Green or heard any of their previous music. I really liked them just the way they were and I could tell they were very talented. Later I would hear of Peter Green and hear all their other music. I can't find any of it I don't like. My favorite album is Bare Trees.
It's a shame that Danny Kirwan is barely mentioned in spite of his enormous contribution to the band.
Stinks that so many in the world have NEVER heard of Peter Green...
Why? Is it important to be popular? Shallow thought process. His music was not pop shite, so it had a limited, musically adept audience. Peter himself was uncomfortable with the notoriety he had.
@@pretorious700 it’s important because itd make our culture better/talented, not completely full of half witts, pussy poppin
Although relatively unknown...everyone knows Santana's cover of black magic woman....go figure
I didn't learn about Peter Green and the original Fleetwood Mac until my mid 20s. Mostly thanks to the internet (and streaming downloads). The only early Fleetwood Mac song I knew was Albatross, and somehow I figured it was just Lindsay Buckingham playing it from the late 70s. I'd occaisionally heard "oh well"; but I didn't know it was Fleetwood Mac. And I only knew Santana's version of black magic woman (thinking it was his original).
I wish I'd known about him and his incredible music (along with Spencer & Kirwan's music) when I was 12 years old. I would've added this amazing music to the Hendrix, Cream, Blind Faith, Jeff Beck Group, early Led Zeppelin that I immersed myself in and tried desperately to master myself. What I'd like to know is why they never mentioned him in Guitar world magazne. They never shut up about Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton and Mick Taylor (along with the likes of Randy Roades, Joe Satriani, Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Ted Nugent, etc), but I don't remember them ever even mentioning Peter Green.
Well he wanted it that way
wait, what? No mention of Danny Kirwan?!
Ismael Flores the mentioned him in the beginning of this video...
1:52 I think Johnny Ramone was inspired by Danny Kirwan for his haircut.
I've heard he was already having emotional problems, as was Danny. The rest of the band did tons of psychedelics as well I believe. Especially when they all lived together. I think it was just as much the "mind games" that anarchist group staged. There is an interesting movie about Uschi Whats-her-Name. She was part of that commune.
Almost all of these documentaries leave out tons of info and miss so much, such as Danny Kirwan who barely is mentioned. They should leave these things to actual die-hard fans of the band, diehards of all eras of them, or at least consult them.
This is a really good documentary. Much better than Bio's Fleetwood Mac... Thanks for sharing!! :-)
Peter Green = amazing...
Kiln House is a fantastic album.
Yeah I like it a lot. I think that the Spencer & Kirwan led Fleetwood Mac could've made some more great music in the early 70s had Spencer not lost his marbles and deserted.
It needed another track or two though, it's too short.
RIP The Green God
This is almost as good as Spinal Tap...lol.
@7beers No problem. I had just stopped to figure it out for myself when I saw your post asking about it.
Two words- Spinal Tap
Dammit....that pesky LSD!!!
After they stopped talking about Peter leaving the only tune they play is Oh! Well part 2. Why not a song post Peter?
@7beers "They're not really cutting it, is the truth."
@maherd8 McVie!!!!! McVeigh blew up that building in Oklahoma...
Anyone know what that music is when they're talking about what happened to Spencer 9:00-9:17?
yup; its the second part of the fleetwood mac claSSIC ;OH WELL!
hahah he is wearing man uggs
Why didnt Danny leave with Peter?
Anybody know the name of the song that starts at 8:19, and who wrote it? Its Mac song.
Ok its Oh Well part 2. thanks.
where is part 1?
Part I starts at 1:36.
Is McVeigh wearing Uggs???
sucks that they didn't show Black Magic Woman.
Probably as that song was more closely associated with Santana, who covered it in 1970.
Green's version blows it out of the water
He did'nt need someone in a warm bed if you had buy him a ticket to Nepal ,there he would have soundet instead let him go to terrible Establishments who, broke him(,,and cults are also a very bad choice , )
5:19 - 5:22 ???
do some research.they did sell more lp's than the stones and beatles combined..and they wasnt just an underground band.......u'll look a lot less foolish is u speak about something that u know about
God I hate cults haha.
@CashMyCheque Oh Well Part 2.
@bfish89ryuhayabusa THX :)
The bloke exaggerates - they weren't THAT big in the sixties - Please...bigger than the Beatles and Stones?? come on. They were mainly underground with a small core fan base that slowly grew - to a mediocre rock band status. But they did have a handfull of decent songs in the 70's.
He didn't say they were bigger. They just sold more units in 1969. Fleetwood Mac went downhill after Peter Green left and then was completely destroyed when those chicks joined. Listen and watch again when you're not drunk.
Fleetwood Mac did NOT outsell the Beatles and Stones in 1969. Only in UK singles sales could you say this was true. Both the Beatles and The Stones swamped FM in album sales in 1969. Very misleading claim.
From hearing Peter talk about his own LSD-25 use, I highly doubt he was "spiked" in Munich.
But yes there were analogues , in fact still are around, of LSD , or similarly-acting copmounds like DOX which refers to DOA, DOB, DOC... mainly, look em up on wikipedia if you want. They're psychedelic amphetamines instead of LSD, which is not.. but very similar effects but way way easier to overdose on. Sorry for my poor grammar, but yea.. I've got some experience I believe with one of the DOX drugs, and with acid.. a blotter strip i bought years back which had 50 hits seemed to be a combination somehow of LSD and some tabs had DOB or some such drug.. and it could be quite overwhelming. One way to tell if it's DOX is that DOX makes you incredibly horny, but LSD-25 not so much.
Peter Green playing and singing slow blues is just boring. Sorry, but its true. He was not a blues man, he was a blues rock player and came alive on faster numbers. The Peter Green era is over rated by nostalgia heads. Lindsay is an infinitely better guitar play and the Buckingham Nicks era is infinitely better musically. No contest.
Slow blues is where it's at. The fast stuff is just filler.