Josh Pate On FSU Leaving The ACC - July Bombshell Coming? (Late Kick Cut)
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- FSU is in the ACC for now. How long will that be the case? On Late Kick Live Ep 526 Josh Pate responded to several recent rumblings that big news could be coming RE: the future of the program and the ACC. Will we see clarity on the future of FSU and other programs around the ACC in July? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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As an FSU alum, Georgia born boy living in Ann Arbor, I look forward to the Noles in the Big house (if university admin makes the right decision). Doubt they will be able to swing it, but hopefully they can bring the Marching Chiefs to a few games in the Big House too. Kinda biased here since I was in the Marching Chiefs too. Nonetheless....GO NOLES!!!!
Sorry... When it's all said and done FSU will be in the SEC.
That is the right decision for the city of Tallahassee and the University as a whole.
I don’t see them going to the big10, the SEC looks like a better fit but anything can happen
the right choice in 1991 was the SEC, just as it is now. I wouldn't be surprised to see FSU pick the B1G if they had the choice of both.
@@utcnc7mm With revenue sharing, the Big Ten makes more money than the SEC so FSU could pay more than SEC schools if it joined the B1G
@@nick21614 when you look at travel, would it be worth it?
I love how you stopped yourself from saying Grand wizard 😂😂😂
LMAO I didn’t catch that on the live I wish I saw what chat said
‘Noles & Canes will come over to the SEC eventually!!! Mark it down!!
Imagine FSU vs OSU, Penn State, Oregon, USC and Michigan on a regular basis. There is definitely value there. Imagine if Clemson and Miami came also. Best case scenario for getting more on the SEC level
I'm a Miami fan! Lets be clear, CFB allows the B10 and SEC to get the tv money, they are getting now and in the future. If that is the case, if you going to add teams to the B10, they must add teams, that makes B10 FB better with history, weekly matchups, the potential to win big and match what the SEC has at the top with LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, UF, UGA, Tennessee and Auburn who all have one at least one national title in the last 40 years. Now compare that to the B10 currently. They only have Michigan, OSU, Penn State, Washington and USC. What teams out there right now, not in the B10 or SEC provide that? Its only Notre Dame, Miami, Clemson and FSU. 1# is Notre Dame 2# Miami and FSU 3# Clemson! The tv partners want national tv weekly matchups!
And ND
On the sec level? The Big10 makes 400 million a year more right now.
@@emc_squar3479He’s talking about winning Championships, not money obviously
@@hillbillysceptic1982 😅
FSU is a top 20 public university. Over several big ten schools.
FSU will never be considered a prestigious academic school lmao
They got that ranking for a reason. FSU academics are pretty strong these days. Certain colleges within the university are the best in the SE.
@@BBenton07 FSU is NOT top 20 in academics lmao.
@@chrishaugh1655 Among public universities (as the post suggests^) they’re #23 in the country in 2024. Higher than Mich St, Penn St, Rutgers, Indiana, Oregon, Iowa to name a few.
@@BBenton07 what POST are you talking about buddy? No officially recognized system of academic rankings for the US has them in the top 40.
Another thing is we are putting the cart before the horse here. Unless Florida State has already negotiated some sort of buyout with the ACC, which is far less than 500 million, we have to get through the court battle first. Both Sankey and petiti have publicly said that no invitations will go out until we are completely out of the ACC. I have not heard anything from them that would refute that.
as a 42 FSU fan a 22-year booster platinum level, and a member of TBE I am very pleased at the way the court battle is going so far. I do believe that it will lead to some sort of arbitration between Florida State, Clemson, and the ACC I'm just not going to speculate as Mr Pate has done here.
The deadline for announcing we are leaving the ACC is August 15th. I do believe we will announce that we are leaving which would give us all of the 2024 season and the, whisper, off-season to negotiate terms with either conference and officially be out of the ACC.
Perhaps Josh is talking about the announcement? I guess we will just have to see.
Leave to go where?
Nice save on the “Wizard “ line 🎉
It's so hilarious to me that people don't even look up the actual numbers, the facts of the situation.
The fact is FSU had they joined either conference in 2023 would have been third in revenue in both the Big Ten and the SEC.
That is extremely high value.
That stat is now slightly off now that Texas would bump above FSU for top-3 in the SEC, but point still stands. Even in the SEC or B1G, FSU is one of the biggest and most valuable brands. Only a select few programs generate more revenue than FSU without the disparity in conference TV deals.
@@fsu5452 value isn't the issue here. They signed a contract and they HAD the opportunity to join the SEC years ago and denied it. Boohoo.
@@chrishaugh1655 no, that's really not the issue or what's even being discussed on this video. Contracts are broken all the time. How do you think SEC just got Texas and OU?
When exactly did FSU have an invite to the SEC? You're just making things up. UF and South Carolina for years made it known that they didn't want FSU and Clemson to join the SEC. It's why they were rumored to be moving to the Big 12 during realignment in the early 2010s.
miami doesn't he have a stadium...irrelevant for 20 years?!
@@chrishaugh1655I bet u voted for biden
Money and greed will destroy what mmade this sport great
already has. when you started seeing corporate sponsors attaching their names to bowl games was the beginning of the end.
bullshit. conference realignment has been going on since the very start of the sport
I think it’s getting better lol. These matchups this year are great
It already did. You have championships being determined behind closed doors by TV executives based on prospective TV ratings and advertising dollars over winning.
@@fsu5452 thats just sour grapes. I had no "financial" interest in playoffs and didn't think FSU was good enough either. committee got it right.
Half a BILLION DOLLARS fine to get out of that contract is crazy work
SMU just joined ACC and raised more money in last year than any D1 school last year.
Texas oil money?
@@artbagley1406 yep...
SMU is a sleeping powerhouse. If you do your history you'll know that SMU was Texas before Texas. They were the big school paying all kinds of athletes to come to their program. Ever since they received college football's death penalty they haven't been the same. Now that the money is allowed to flow it's about to be a different ballgame for SMU. They have the money and backing of any major power in college football.
I wish the best for SMU and please beat FSU.
Don’t kid yourselves. College football is not a sport. It is a television product. It is just content.
Lost me at Paul Fine-bum.
Absolutely
How does anyone listen to that buffoon? He's nothing but a cartoon mascot for the SEC.
Guy with the worst takes who is never held accountable. I boycotted for a while. Would change off of espn whenever he is on. He seems to actually know very little about the sport. His claim to fame is being the Jerry springer of Alabama/Auburn fans. Don’t listen to a word he says
ESPN owns SEC and he is simply doing as he is told. I stopped watching ESPN a while ago it hurts because I use to wake up to sport center loop. Watching over and over. Finebaum still thinks the Grant of Rights is enforcable until 2036.
Can't wait to get outta the ACC which was treated as 2nd fiddle to the SEC for the last two decades.
Fear the Spear!
He basically quoted him to disagree with what he said, listen before you start typing.
FSU and Clemson to SEC
For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?
I don’t really get the academic argument. Yes, FSU doesn’t have that AAU stamp but their academic stats and public ranking looks in line with most of the b10. I think they’d be a good get for b10, no way SEC brings them in though.
Imagine the ridiculous road games. FSU going to Washington or vice-versa. That's 2829 miles one way lol. They gotta practice jet lag drills.
@@jeremiahbird930 with all that money I imagine schools like FSU can afford to own or charter a couple of jets to move their Olympic teams around and not depend on commercial flights. Football teams have used chartered jets for decades.
@@jeremiahbird930 That’s true, but the ACC has also stopped caring about geography. I’m not sure how they currently plan on handling the California teams and SMU
@@jeremiahbird930WVU and USC
It’s a non-argument. Other than ND, FSU is by far the biggest brand left to realign. FSU is B1G bound. SEC’s claim they don’t want or need FSU is a weak attempt to save face.
CLEM & FSU are going to the SEC.
2026 schedule!
Sec was told to back off, months ago as clem & fsu go through the court system.
Good grief, folks.
It's been a done deal.
I wish Clemson and FS leave today!
I’m a longtime Gator. I have always felt that FSU and Clemson would fit in well in the SEC- geographically and culturally. Not Miami though. I would rather get rid of some of the more recent SEC teams that don’t belong in the SEC, culturally and geographically, and pickup FSU and Clemson. I mean, Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, and Missouri are all great teams but they don’t belong in the SEC.
I don’t think they are going anywhere if they joined the sec they would be bottom half and if they joined the big ten they would be mid at best they are better off in the ACC they can run the table in a weak conference and get in the 12 team playoff now.
@@collegefootballfan7909 They are hardly better off staying in the ACC unless there are major changes to the Conference. SEC and Big Ten members get 15 to 20 million more than ACC. FSU is falling behind the SEC and Big Ten schools financially. Hence, the major reason why the lawsuit.
I have some breaking news to drop. I have spoken to sources, I can't say who, and I cant say what is going to happen, but something is going to happen in the future. How is it going to happen? I don't know. Zero new information but I need to make a video.
That is you Pate. 😂
It is August, where is the big news?
Thanks Josh! Love your shows! Go Noles
It would be awesome to know something about this in July because im tired of waiting on an answer on this question.
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I think Clemson and FSU would be huge pickups for the SEC from a football standpoint. Plus, the travel would be way easier for fans compared to traveling to Oregon and Washington.
Curious... For how long and by how many professionals reporting will it take for people to accept that CLEMSON and FSU are not higher expansion priorities for the SEC?
Baseball softball basketball f gymnastics
@@ssippilandelta4365 yeah that's true
It really is whether FSU v XXXXX is better than Rutgers v XXXXX or Vandy v XXXXX. As the B1G has more Illinois than the SEC, I look for that to be a landing spot.
I've seen no evidence that FSU was even contacted prior to the B1G inviting RUT (and MARYLAND).
The bottom of a conference isn't the benchmark.
I presume that this was intended as satire. An Ohio State vs Florida State matchup would be the national game of the week. FSU would be in the top five of the conference in viewership and revenue generation.
@@505premoto Maybe I wasn't clear in how I wrote it - yes, FSU is bigger than 80% of the B1G. That was my point. Sorry I wasn't clear.
im so sick of people bitching about how the sport is being "ruined". As if watching FSU play Michigan instead of Boston College is a bad thing for sport. Just ridiculous.
All of these ppl bitching and whining about all of this are still watching. And will continue to watch, they just like to grandstand like they know whats best for the sport.
I'm really curious about the opportunity for Clemson. I could see the SEC not being interested because they already have South Carolina and I could see the B1G not being interested because of academics.
I'd be surprised if the B1G didn't go after FSU if only to get into Florida. I know they don't have the academics of the B1G, but getting into Florida seems to be a no-brainer.
academics dont mean anything in this.
@@tomdemay6147Literally nothing, this is about $$$
@@tomdemay6147 they do to the Big-10
The SEC already "had" the state of Texas but that didn't stop them from going after the University of Texas.
@@steveb.2326 sorry to tell you no academics dont mean jack shit for big 10 realignment
i think a better fit would fsu clemsom nc and maimi in the sec but i just a fan of football
Excited to watch my Noles play Mich, Penn St, OSU, Wisconsin, Oregon, USC, and Nebraska on a regular basis. Meh on everyone else in the BIG. Still better than the usual slate of Wake, Cuse and the other schools that don’t care about football.
🤮
IOW, nobody knows what's going to happen. Thanks for the update.🙄
FSU and Clemson need to end up in the SEC. But it probably won't happen because FSU is too butt hurt about being snubbed from last year's playoff. It would make a LOT of sense though really. FSU's rivalry with Florida could be a conference game. Clemson's rivalry with South Carolina could be a conference game and they could start playing Georgia every year again. It would at least sorta make sense. Even geographically it would make sense. But nothing much is making sense these days in college football so we'll see. lol.
Texas and Oklahoma took 3 years to make the transition once announced. Both paid $100 million for that exit. Florida State and Clemson are facing a stiffer contract to overcome. It will be done, at what cost is the question.
The big 10 would never let FSU in they don't have meet the academic standards but the top teams in the big 10 are pushing for Notre Dame and Texas A&M to join
Which arrangement makes more sense, coast to coast game on ACC money or coast to coast games on B1G money?
Keeping receipts.
If i was the BIG 20 or any other potential landing spot...I think i would invite Clemson (recent CFP success), Miami (the brand), or even Duke & UNC (brands, b-ball, academics) before FSU. Unless Bowden & Prime come w/ them.
Welcome to the SEC TX,OU,FSU, AND CLEM 👍
For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?
Keep in mind that FSU has a dominant record against the Big 10 historically. FSU would instantly be one of the best teams in both the SEC and the Big 10. Finebaum just doesn’t like Florida State
B10 will want a basketball school to round out their picks. FSU, Notre Dame, and North Carolina all join.
I am an alum of a big time program that has come out on top of all this current mess, that said I think what is happening is really bad in the long run for college football and everyone in big time college football is getting to the point where they are going ruin the whole gravy train, they are going to eff around and find out, I can completely see Congress getting involved.
welcome to the American Athletic Conference (AAC)
Josh, you are really being nice to our beloved Seminole Nation! Are u a closet fan of the Seminoles? I hope so! Go Noles -------;;-->
I think FSU/Clemson will go to the SEC and UNC/Notre Dame (who will be free to join any conference one the ACC falls) will go to the Big 10
Curious... For how long and by how many professionals reporting will it take for people to accept that CLEMSON and FSU are not higher expansion priorities for the SEC?
a) UNC is now near ~100% secured by the SEC.
b) ND is not leaving the ACC if "only" those three leave.
Greg Sankey and anyone else saying they don’t want FSU and Clemson are lying, they just won’t admit it until it’s a done deal. No way the SEC passes on them and lets the Big 10 have them when they are 2 huge brands in their geographic footprint, both with major rivalries with existing SEC teams. UNC I could see joining the SEC too, but I think they’ll actually coordinate and negotiate with the Big 10, and could concede UNC to them so that they can have FSU and Clemson. As far as Notre Dame goes, if FSU or anyone else can leave the ACC, so can ND
I think that both P2 conferences want UNC because they would be the biggest moneymaker in the conference by far. Neither Alabama nor Ohio State make for their conferences anywhere near what UNC makes for the ACC. They have the highest viewership in the ACC and would be a playoff contender in any conference. Just look at where they are ranked for the 2024 season.
@@505premoto thats just wrong. UNC is nowhere near the biggest money maker. They do NOT have the highest viewership in the ACC. Thats just a ridiculous comment. UNC is a very good brand that both conferences want, I agree with that, but they are no where near the "biggest" moneymaker. ND, FSU, Clemson, Miami all make ACC more money than UNC
@@tomdemay6147 Gosh, I didn’t know that. 😂
I think I see where you’re going with this…FSU and Clemson to the Big 12.
OK, so this is clearly a click bait! To say that there may be a pending announcement on the horizon is like saying, FSU may or may not go to the Big10. There is nothing new here!
We all know that FSU will eventually get out of the ACC. The question is, "where are they going to go?" I think that if there is in fact an announcement that's going to be made here in the next few weeks or so it's going to be that FSU has gathered the monies necessary to buy their GOR back and will be leaving the ACC.
Let's face it, FSU isn't dumb in the sense that they do not want to draw this thing out in court because it's going to be a long ride if they do. We're talking months here people; close to a year or so. Maybe even longer as this legal battle with the ACC could stall for a good minute. Ultimately, I think that the ACC would win their case against FSU and Clemson and they know this.
I think that FSU is going to pay to get out of the ACC sooner rather than later instead of taking their chances in the court systems knowing that they really have no chance of winning. Again, the question is, "where will they go once they do leave the ACC?"
Florida and SC ain’t allowing them to join, unless i’m wrong doesn’t it have to be unanimous for all teams to let another team join a conference?
They might just want to money. Could have said same thing about A&M with Texas
75% was the benchmark for ACC expansion
Money talks. If FSU and Clemson add $$ to the league, Florida and SC will be told to sit down and shut up just like A&M.
It doesnt have to be unanimous. A and m wouldve vetoed texas to the sec if that was the case.
Not when your broadcasting partner, ESecPN would rather not have FOX (B1G) have a toehold in Florida.
They are never getting out of the deal with the ACC, Just as many teams and as much money is riding on the ACC staying together.
I don't think the Big10 or SEC really want to have Clemson and FSU so where are they going to go? I just don't think the $$ is there. Perhaps ACC will reform with less teams and use that as path to get out of the bad contract.
Lol i can't wait until this is over and 5 years from now fans are mad because now their team is finishing third or fourth every year instead of constantly making the conference finals
Is FSU still PO'd at ESPN and the SEC over the playoff snub last year?
Florida State Clemson and Miami need to go to the SEC because they are Southern teams simple as that
And if the SEC doesn't invite?
That argument isn’t valid anymore. USC is about to play in Pennsylvania lol
As simple as that? The ACC has played in Boston, Syracuse and Pitt for decades. And now the ACC is going to be playing in California. The B1G plays from coast to coast and wants to get into the South. Only the SEC is regional. FSU wants to be a national brand.
It's not as simple as that, though, in the long run, I would prefer SEC to B1G. In the short term though, FSU in the B1G instead of the SEC would be delicious. Finebaum would really spend a lot of time trying to hate on the Noles. For whatever he is worth, which is not much.
@@EbolaStewbecause Finebaum is an SEC network host. Don’t know why he would think about FSU. Some people let the sec live in their heads rent free. Only UNC has the type of resume that the SEC would consider inviting.
Props to @joshpate for not saying “Grand wizard” hahahaha
FSU was ranked right outside the top 50 universities in the country so I’m a little lost on the academic prestige thing.
It’s better then a lot of schools in the big 10 and SEC.
Finebaum saying FSU isn’t attractive to the B1G seems wrong in my opinion. FSU in the B1G would make them the first true national conference from coast to coast with blue blood programs.
FSU would wither on a B1G island, and settling for the #2 in an SEC flagged state is a clear realignment loss. Any B1G interest was likely contingent on securing other schools.
Does anyone realize how expensive and dangerous "breach of contrast" is at this level? Suppose FSU refuses to allow ACCN crews and cameras in their stadium. A judge would easily rule for the ACC and FSU would get no a single penny from 2024 season TV revenue. SEC and Big10 could then offer to take over FSU TV broadcasting for bargain prices (say $10M) since FSU is now without any power or leverage.
My biggest question is how does the BigTen schedule 20+ teams without beating itself up? At 20 teams, and a 9-game conference schedule, you can have 1 annual rival and play everyone else every other year. But add one more team, and that goes out the window. What’s the point of a conference if you only play an opponent every 3 or 4 years? Or do you go to 10 conference games? Maybe. But now you’ve made it harder for the mid teams to get to 6-6 and bowl eligibility, and forget any cross P-4 (P-3, or P-2) games in the regular season.
they wont go to 10 game. Like you said 3 is good for non con games. They won't beat themselves up anymore than SEC will.
Academics evidently still matters, Josh Pate, in the Big Ten. When Nebraska lost its AAU standing and you heard about it. And the Big Ten expects Nebraska to get it back to secure its place in the Big Ten. If FSU doesn't qualify for the AAU ranking and does join the Big Ten, I would bet they would have the responsibility to gain it in a period of time.
If Pate is ignoring the academic factor, one might as well ignore his predictions.
I kinda like the idea of the Big ten adding FSU, Miami, Clemson, and maybe Duke .I like the Sec to add North Carolina, Nc State, Va Tech and maybe Virginia
Big 12 adds Louisville, Pitt, Smu, & Maybe Memphis. The pac takes the rest .
The Big12 passed on SMU and Memphis. Louisville and Pitt would make WVU happy.
Memphis is possible but SMU should be no go. Big 12 already had tons of teams in Texas (Baylor, Tech, Houston, TCU). They would be much smarter to add a North Carolina team either Wake Forest or Charlotte.
I kind of like the FSU to the B1G. Sorry but the hell with the rest. I hope they are stuck in the ACC for eternity.
@@richardbrookins5406 Big 10 would be stupid not to expand further though. If it can both kill the ACC off increasing it's market share and relevance, also put ND on the table by again destroying the ACC and 3rdly to get a foothold in the SEC territory and market which also has the best recruits. It's no brainer. I've been saying for long time I would be shocked if Big 10 doesn't add at least 4 ACC teams. 1-2 from Florida, 2 from the Carolinas and either a Virginia or Georgia Tech to round it out. It just makes by far the most sense. It also keeps the Big 12 down. If you ONLY add FSU then Miami isn't "stuck" in ACC forever. Maybe then Big 12 offers Miami, Clemson, NC State etc and now Big 12 gains marketshare and relevance against Big 10. Big 10 playing chess.
Big 12 makes 2/3 the INCOME of the ACC and that gap is GROWING in favor of the ACC.
Big 12 has NO LEVERAGE and NO ALLURE to the teams of the ACC at any point before 2036. Only FOOLS think it does.
It is the ACC that will TAKE Big 12 schools away in the next 2 to 5 years GUARANTEED.
So tired of this "academics aren't up to par" talking point, and I'm glad you touched on that. Not only do academics hardly matter for college sports after a certain (fairly low) threshold, but even insofar as they do, Florida State and the other ACC schools seeking departure are in the same academic tiers as the blue blood Big Ten programs. FSU has a 25% acceptance rate (5th lowest in B10, 8th in ACC) and 1370 average SAT. It ain't the 90's anymore, Mr. Finebaum.
Please don’t come to the SEC…..we full.
You sound scared and you should be.
@@jamesb0255 Definitely not scared. Inferior schools trying to join the SEC just so they can be relevant. Relevancy won’t come your way with all the losses you’ll get.
@@jamesb0255sup, JamesB! This the same jamesB, fan of the Jeff Cameron Show? Go noles! Don’t let the trolls get you down.
@@jamesb025563-3
I think you probably had it right with “Grand Wizard” 😂😂😂
I still don’t understand why FSU thinks they are being discriminated against because they are in ACC. The ACC went to the CFP 6 out of the 10 yrs. That’s the 3rd most representation between conferences? Last yr came down to 2 teams, really 4 teams had an argument. But we could only choose 4 teams out of 7 great options. This yr & moving forward they will get in no problem.
Because we aren’t talking about previous years, we are talking about the 2023 season of being discriminated against. This is how it should have gone:
1. Washington
2. Michigan
3. Florida State
The 4th and final spot should have been the debate between Georgia, Alabama, or Texas. In no way should an undefeated power 5 conference championship winning team be taken out of the playoffs period. There is no defense against that decision because just imagine if Alabama or Georgia were undefeated and got left out over not 1 but 2 teams with at least 1 loss on their record? I understand Georgia only lost to Alabama in the SEC Championship game but they were not undefeated and that’s why the decision of who was the 4th playoff team should have been between those 3 teams. Florida State should have been #3 and no where in that conversation of #4. This was a blatant sign of favoritism and has even been admitted by some who have said on record “there was no way they were going to have a playoff without a team representing the SEC.” However, they could have still put Alabama or Georgia in 4th and still kept that status quo, so why leave Florida State out? Because Texas is going to the SEC and they didn’t want to piss off a future team of the SEC. I would even argue that there was some back door bargaining going on with money being exchanged. The year that Saban retires and Alabama HAPPENS to find their way into the playoffs in a controversial decision leaving out for the first time EVER an undefeated team? The SEC and the CFP and its partners and affiliates colluded together and paid their way into how they wanted the playoffs to be. It’s discriminatory because in no way would this have happened to an SEC team as it was so clearly demonstrated in 2023.
@@sarahconely1971 It’s amazing how your reply is highlighted. Because we are talking about previous yrs. The ACC has not been discriminated against. Remember Bama vs Clemson every yr for 4-6 yrs in a row!! Sorry that Bama SEC had more clout now than FSU. I remember a time that FSU was the top program in country. And they were #1 regardless if Bama won NC like 90’s 93 to be specific. With CFB being what it had been over yrs. Everything goes in cycles based on perception. But with a 12 team playoff it will even out
@@shilledoutbyfers2445 no we aren’t talking about previous years when it comes to your previous statement “I still don’t understand why FSU thinks they are being discriminated against because they are in the ACC.” That was due to the 2023 season and that’s what I was addressing. You throwing out pointless information about previous years information is redundant. Also last I checked football wasn’t/isn’t supposed to be about “clout” it’s supposed to be who wins the game and an undefeated season is over another team with losses always. The opinion that just because the playoffs are going to a 12 team playoff doesn’t justify the decision made or make it ok and is completely asinine to say.
@@sarahconely1971 Ok I agree with you. However, what is FSU resume last yr, they beat LSU….So did Bama!! I realize they went undefeated. But Bama beat the #1 team in country & FSU struggled to beat who? in the ACC championship? How do u leave Bama out? And better yet, How do u leave Georgia out? Only losing by 3points after winning NC back to back? But the CFP only allows 4 teams. I agree that the weakness of ACC kept FSU out but they would not have won NC. So moving forward, I would rather be in ACC than SEC if I was FSU. Bama has to play a tough ass schedule every yr & they have to finish like 10-2 to get in most yrs. FSU can easily go 10-2 or worse win ACC & it’s a lock. But even at 10-2 it should be a lock!! With Bama schedule 10-2 or 9-3 or 10-3 losing SEC championship would be ?? some yrs!! Because of competition records!! Even if FSU goes 9-3 if they win ACC they are in. And right now FSU is clearly the best program & only Clemson maybe Miami could ever challenge that. In SEC, it’s much more competitive!!
that Joe Biden is highly energetic lol
18 is awkward, I think the B1G needs to get to 20 teams. Have fewer noncon games and more comference games to make it work.
The Big Ten, SEC, and Big 12 will be the last P5 conferences standing. ACC is on borrowed time. When the dust settles, the ACC will look like the old Big East: Duke, Wake, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU …
There is no feasible path to a peer P3. The BIG12 fell further behind when the PAC scattered. Will far even further behind as the ACC depletes out.
I just want us to go to the SEC so that no one can say “you play in a weak conference” anymore.
For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?
We know what we know. (Something?)
We don't know what we know. (Anything?)
We know what we don't know. (Everything?)
We don't know what we don't know. (🤷🏼♂️)
Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Talking heads.
Need my Jackets to get picked up
In the B1G, academics make a difference. Football gets donors on the porch so to speak, but academics gets them in the door. These schools are bringing in hundreds of millions with sports to be sure, but they bring in Billions with research. And the B1G really doesn't need more community colleges, it already has Nebraska.
See you soon Notre Dame! I am inevitable.
Sincerely,
The Big Ten
Lol, that’s a good one & you may be right whether they like it or not
Fsu to sec would be fire FSU vs Florida FSU vs Alabama FSU Vs Georgia rivalries
For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?
1:35 gran uh uh group of 🧙 wizards
Why put out videos like this? When it happens....THEN YOU'LL KNOW
FSU, Virginia, UNC, Notre Dame, Miami to B10!!
UNC is currently (and wisely) ~100% to SEC when/if. Why risk the MARYLAND experience?
Duke, UNC, UVA, and Clemson to the SEC. Hopefully NC State and VT could be added for 22 program conference.
UVA lol
There will never be 22 teams. There may be 18. May be 20. May be 24. There will never be 22.
Try making a 22 game schedule for Football with 9 or 10 games. It cannot be done. MATHS.
So add 2 more or subtract 2.
@@haze2ez146 There are far more FSU like schools that P4 elite original public ivys.
Guessing and opinion Josh that's why you don't know. We all know the most teams in the big10 and sec are weak. There might be 3 or 4 teams in that decent. Espn offered the sec the money, while three networks wanted football when the big10 deal came up. Ask app state if Michigan or Texas A&M is that great. FS and Clemson is jealous of the money the big10 and sec are being paid.
2nd not counting Pate's
what has the acc ever done for fsu
Made a huge academic exception in exchange for FSU's agreement to help carry ACC football.
Wherever they go, I hope they're relegated to middle at best. Honor your contracts.
This conference realignment shit is so fucking garbage. This whole thing will inevitably hit the fan and when it does it’s all gonna explode. Two super conferences isn’t the wave and neither is turning college football into a minor league. It’s so sad to watch the desecration of my favorite sport.
Unpopular opinion: One day we will wake up and realize the conferences were never that important. Conference realignment in college will be seen the same way we view conference realignment in the NFL.
So in other words you can continue to post clickbait and then say oh see I was the first to break the story
FSU had the opportunity to join the sec decades ago and chickened out.
Giving more Michigan and Florida State inst bad at all...But at what or whose expense? Local rivalries, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Penn State, an exciting OOC game? An easy OOC game. If you can go on luxury cruise every weekend, its going to get old and stale after a while. The excitement fades.
Bro is complaining about watching good football games every week what are you talking about😭nobody is complaining
@@Dre384 I been following CFB for decades....there has never been a shortage of GREAT football games throughout that time, with meaningful rivalries that make geographic sense, that fans could travel to, with plenty of cross country, cross conference games throughout. Dont fix whats not broken.
@@Central_Media3656 it doesn’t matter you saying the excitement will fade is false lol nobody is gonna complain about watching elite games every week regardless
@@Dre384 there has always been elite games every week. the only difference now, is its at the expense of regional long standing historical rivalries, conferences that are geographically beneficial to players and fans, packaged together with games that dont make any sense....Rutgers vs USC for example. Glad USC traded Stanford rivalry for...Rutgers.
you arguing for the sake of arguing. good for you.
@@Central_Media3656 buddy you’re the one arguing for some else I’m specifically replying to your statement that the excitement will fade if we watch these type of games weekly which is not true 💀nobody is gonna care about any of what you talking about when the games start football is football
FSU and Clemson are gone. Add in USF and either Memphis or UConn then the ACC will be fine
a) FSU and CLEMSON are gone to where?
b) The ACC has already preemptively backfilled.
Also fine? The two biggest football brands leave and the conference would be fine?
@@Mr.KyleRichey look at my conference as an example. The 2 biggest schools left and we are going strong
@@tarheel7406 okay I get what you’ve said over and over. Look at my name and picture and quit commenting that same thing lmao it’s annoying
@@brandonh5360 As soon as people quit posting nonsense, I will be thrilled to stop responding with obvious counters.
Really hope Clemson is headed to the SEC in 2025!
Clemson will struggle hard in the SEC. If FSU leaves then clemson should stay in the ACC
@@jeremiahbird930money wise this is incorrect football wise u are correct Clemson would be like the 9th best team in the sec this year
As things stand, after what feasible chain of events ends with CLEMSON in the SEC in 2025?
@@tjstakes167lets watch them play uga then revisit this…
LORD JOSH, you know what's gonna happen to those people, and it's not for just this one season either. From "The God's of the ACC", to "Move over Vanderbilt". And they begged for it (you too Clemson).🦆🦆🦆
FSU and Clemson needs to stay in the ACC them teams go to the SEC or Big10 they become mid teams at best….
“Realignment is going to ruin college football.” This same dumb response was said about spread offenses…..the same about play review….the same about the targeting rule….the same about the transfer portal…the same about NIL…yet the same idiots are still watching and attending CFB games and the sport itself is literally more successful, more popular, and more lucrative as it has ever been!!!! CFB is not going anywhere. CHANGE will happen and you may as well accept it!!!
B1G
SEC
FL ST & Clemson
Would also love to bring in Oklahoma St to sure up the Texas and Oklahoma rivalries. The fourth team being either West Virginia because of wild fan base or NC St because of Basketball and S Carolina rivalry
For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?
Rumors starting up around the acc about FSU leaving the ACC within a month? For either the big 12 or big 10? Nah that cant be right… right?
~75% to BIG12, ~0% to B1G
@@tarheel7406 TarHeels and Noles have the exact same brand value added up throughout all sports programs. Y’all would go the same place as us and Clemson
@@CrispyIsNinja Both the SEC and B1G want UNC. Neither want FSU or CLEMSON, at least without something else happening first.
@@tarheel7406 Your football program is Badussy. they want you for basketball and that’s pretty much it.
@@CrispyIsNinja UNC's value is far more diversified than either FSU or CLEMSON's. There are far more schools likely FSU and CLEMSON than there are like UNC.
I currently have FSU ~100% to the BIG12, though there is currently some buzz that there will be a new closer to market deal with some unequal distribution structure. My advice to the ACC would be to kick FSU for cause with court approval (to preserve claims) and then see how things go.
Florida State is not completely getting out of this contract at least 2027-2030. Don't why you making click bait videos man!
Man people better enjoy FSU being in a lower tier league. When we have the same money as these other big programs we are gonna be a problem.
lol what does the money allow FSU to do that they can’t already
SEC SEC
I think I think maybe I think🤣😂🤣😂
They didn’t need Texas and OU either.
Bunch of air choppers. How lame, let them go and irritate another division.. Miami just took another linebacker over them. Lost their last game 63 to 3.
Look, no one gives a flying f#@$ about FSU. I so hope you are wrong, we do not need them in the SEC. FSU had a chance to join the SEC back when Bowden was their coach, they turned it down for an easier schedule in the ACC. No, I hope they are not admitted to the SEC!!
FSU sucks academically, big 10 is a horrible spot, Big 10 would love Miami and North Carolina and Duke though
Can we get a way too early playoff prediction video if we haven’t already ?
Every few days you bring up this topic when you know good-and-well that what you have to say has been said a hundred times already. You do this for clicks. How about you just don't say anything else about it until IT happens? That way us subs don't have to sit through 10 minutes of nothing for no good reason.