I have a couple of comments. I own a P1 Gen 4, and if you have a GeForce RTX 3060, 3070, 3080 or 3090, there is no second NVMe slot (there may be others, but I am not sure, but from what I found, only if you have the Intel video adapters). The space is taken up by more cooling. The other thing is that I bought a Samsung 990 Pro with heatsink during Prime Day this year. I did not have time to install it until today, but about 10 days after the return period. I bought that version thinking that the heatsink was better, but unfortunately, the computer will not recognize it. I am going to confirm this, but I strongly suspect that it is because I did not have the original copper heatsink (nicely stamped that it is PCIe version 4) in place. It probably creates a connection that the system recognizes, and if it does not have that connection, it will not use it since it thinks that it will overheat. I could probably use a wire to jump it, but I am just going to buy one without the heatsink.
Thanks to your video I decided on buying a second hand P1 gen 4 with only 16Gb RAM and bought two 32gb sodimms the next day. So now I have a 64GB Thinkpad P1 with RTX A2000 and a 4k Xrite certified screen for my Postproduction needs. I'm considering upgrading to dual 4Tb Nvme drives, you think it will take them?
Thanks! Nice, that should be powerful machine you have coming. I went with the i7-11800H and T1200 and the WQUXGA resolution display. I believe that is the base processor/graphics options. Also used one of the pre-configured ready to ship options.
I imagine you haven't received it yet, with the delays and all. I wish I could get one with i7-11800H and RTX 3070, but if I get one it'll have to be the 11850H (at least it's not much more expensive, but I wanted the 11800H to save a bit of battery and because the performance boost isn't huge anyway). Anyway, I hope you enjoy the new laptop once you get it! Don't know what you chose for RAM and SSD, but on Newegg you can get fairly cheap 64GB kits and higher capacity SSDs than Lenovo offers.
any reason you didn't populate the second ssd slot with the ssd you removed ? Also, I wonder if lenovo sells the heat spreader/sink for the second ssd separately ? My previous laptops haven't needed it. Is it because gen4 drives get more toasty ?
That's a good idea, can certainly throw it in there for a dual drive configuration. I was doing some SSD juggling at the time and didn't want to 'use up' the existing thermal pad on the nvm-e Gen3 side. That said, I've since put in a Samsung 970 Evo 1TB. Looks like it's idling at 41C right now. No additional thermal considerations beyond the bottom pad. There's no connection points (screws) on the Gen 3 side either. In general, yes the more data you're pumping through, the higher the power consumption (and heat). Tom's Hardware did some comparisons earlier in the year: www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-980-pro-m-2-nvme-ssd-review/2
Thank you for this. I did the RAM upgrade a few hours ago on this laptop from 32GB (16 x 2) to 64 GB (32 x 2, Crucial DDR4-3200, 1.2V SODIMM) but the machine is now taking longer to boot - are there any special BIOS settings to verify? The Windows RAM test came back all good.
No, but there's a chance it's not fully snapped in. Trying going around the under-side perimeter again and pushing it to snap back into place. If your screws were hard to get back in, that's another indication it wasn't 100% lined back up
You just have to disable the internal battery like I show in the video before removing the back cover. You don't want any of the electronics potentially powered while you're making modifications.
@@SpeakerFeature Interesting. I've never once disabled the internal battery before opening my ThinkPads, and I've never heard advice to do so. I make sure the machine is off, not connected to anything. And then I open it up. I've watched a dozen on-site IBM technicians working on ThinkPads and never once went into power options/disabled battery. Not disagreeing with this step, just have never heard of it.
Great share 👍 I got both legion 7i i9 cpu rtx3080 and p1gen4 labtop with same i9 cpu same rtx3080 gpu. Which one do you recommen to keep for performance use?
Thanks! Almost identical specs so at that point go with the one that fits you better. Not sure if you got the 4k version of the P1 display but they 7i might be able to hit higher frame rates at lower res if you're going to doing a lot of gaming. How noisy does the 7i thermal system get? Pretty noticeable? The P1 is probably more rugged with the environmental MIL spec compliance.
Just wondering, if I add the 2TB sdd to the gen 3 port without removing the existing sdd from the gen 4 port and I used the gen 3 port as the boot up drive it still works right? By doing so I need to copy the existing content from the gen 4 port to the sdd in the gen 3 port and make it the boot up disk then format away the gen 4 sdd
Yes, that'll work. You just want the larger size as Gen3? You could always get a 2TB Gen4, clone, and swap locations. A bit more work (and likely thermal pad redo) but can maximize the Gen4 speed.
Disaster!! Can't get any support! Email support but never gets an answer anywhere! Have so many awful problems with my P1 Gen4 so it's embarrassing! I now hate my brand new computer due to all the problems! Obvious quality problems, color missing on keyboard buttons, fans jerking, white spot on the screen, battery life max 4h, longer battery life on macbook 15 "from 2011, bios updates that kill usb-c / TB4 ports, bluetooth problems, fan problems, sleep mode don't work properly (hot even though led is fading), usb-chime sounds al the time. Fresh windows 10 install with all drivers updated. Catastrophically Embarrassing!
This computer is so stupid and with no quality checks before selling to customers! I have color peeling off from keyboard on 3 keys, two BSoD, no way to turn computer off in BSoD (power button not responding), front most USB-A port is unreliable and fails large file copies to externa drive, computer running HOT in sleepmode (leds fading), bluetooth freezes every other second, computer sometimes loops every other minute with chimes like it is unplugging usb, rolling back to bios 1.14 due to dead usb-c ports, white spot in display... AND THE WORST PART IS THAT LENOVO WONT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO REPLACE IT! Blaiming the customer because it is "cosmetics" and doesn't cover by warranty, the customer has to pay!! Can only state lenovo is mafia BLACK MAILING its customers, sending out broken computers and only accept repair if the costumer pays even more!! I have been trying for over 4 months to get a replacement unit or repair, it was hard to even get an answer from the support! Eventually got an email to global pr at lenovo who send me to EMEA team, well they are only wasting my time blaming me for the "cosmetic" faults....
Coming from a Mac for the last 4 years, being able to add upgrades to a laptop is so nice.
This is a phenomenal "how-to" video, thanks.
This is by far the most therapeutic Lenovo P1 Gen4 review yet I've ever watched. New subscriber here 🙂 Great review every clear
This is by far the most therapeutic Lenovo P1 Gen4 review yet I've ever watched. New subscriber here 🙂 Great review!
Thanks for the video. I was able to do the upgrades, without issue. Appreciate your taking the time and sharing the skill. Dave
Awesome, thanks!
Sadly, it lacks the ethernet port. Your tutorial is great!
I'm thinking to buy an used P1 from eBay...
I have a couple of comments. I own a P1 Gen 4, and if you have a GeForce RTX 3060, 3070, 3080 or 3090, there is no second NVMe slot (there may be others, but I am not sure, but from what I found, only if you have the Intel video adapters). The space is taken up by more cooling.
The other thing is that I bought a Samsung 990 Pro with heatsink during Prime Day this year. I did not have time to install it until today, but about 10 days after the return period. I bought that version thinking that the heatsink was better, but unfortunately, the computer will not recognize it. I am going to confirm this, but I strongly suspect that it is because I did not have the original copper heatsink (nicely stamped that it is PCIe version 4) in place. It probably creates a connection that the system recognizes, and if it does not have that connection, it will not use it since it thinks that it will overheat. I could probably use a wire to jump it, but I am just going to buy one without the heatsink.
hoping for a higher refresh rate on the 5th gen
same here.
Great Video, what is the max ssd storage for this laptop? Is it 4TB or can we install more?
90kW Battery, it can last for a year I guess...
And where is socket for ethernet cable??? I have P1 Gen 2 and it has micro socket where you can plug in ethernet cable through adapter.
Thanks to your video I decided on buying a second hand P1 gen 4 with only 16Gb RAM and bought two 32gb sodimms the next day. So now I have a 64GB Thinkpad P1 with RTX A2000 and a 4k Xrite certified screen for my Postproduction needs. I'm considering upgrading to dual 4Tb Nvme drives, you think it will take them?
I was wondering why you didn't wait for the alder lake version, seeing that refresh is coming very soon anyways.
Cool review/video. What are the specs on your machine? I just ordered one today myself and went with the i7 and the 3070.
Thanks! Nice, that should be powerful machine you have coming. I went with the i7-11800H and T1200 and the WQUXGA resolution display. I believe that is the base processor/graphics options. Also used one of the pre-configured ready to ship options.
I imagine you haven't received it yet, with the delays and all. I wish I could get one with i7-11800H and RTX 3070, but if I get one it'll have to be the 11850H (at least it's not much more expensive, but I wanted the 11800H to save a bit of battery and because the performance boost isn't huge anyway).
Anyway, I hope you enjoy the new laptop once you get it! Don't know what you chose for RAM and SSD, but on Newegg you can get fairly cheap 64GB kits and higher capacity SSDs than Lenovo offers.
Nice video! Have you ever noticed 980 Pro overheating?
any reason you didn't populate the second ssd slot with the ssd you removed ?
Also, I wonder if lenovo sells the heat spreader/sink for the second ssd separately ? My previous laptops haven't needed it. Is it because gen4 drives get more toasty ?
That's a good idea, can certainly throw it in there for a dual drive configuration. I was doing some SSD juggling at the time and didn't want to 'use up' the existing thermal pad on the nvm-e Gen3 side. That said, I've since put in a Samsung 970 Evo 1TB. Looks like it's idling at 41C right now. No additional thermal considerations beyond the bottom pad. There's no connection points (screws) on the Gen 3 side either. In general, yes the more data you're pumping through, the higher the power consumption (and heat). Tom's Hardware did some comparisons earlier in the year:
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-980-pro-m-2-nvme-ssd-review/2
What RAM did you use? Got a sweet deal for a P1 and wondering if 3200 Mhz Crucial 32GB will be fine or 2666 only?
Thank you for this. I did the RAM upgrade a few hours ago on this laptop from 32GB (16 x 2) to 64 GB (32 x 2, Crucial DDR4-3200, 1.2V SODIMM) but the machine is now taking longer to boot - are there any special BIOS settings to verify? The Windows RAM test came back all good.
What about Apple m1pro max vs this?
Price and performance?
Hello, could you please let me know the thickness of thermal pad for SSD?
support double sided M.2 SSD? or only single sided SSD? thanks
So just to verify, I will need to download the wifi drivers to the same usb stick with the windows creation media tool?
If you're just adding RAM you don't need to shut off the power, correct?
Did you observe any chassis creaking after this installation?
No, but there's a chance it's not fully snapped in. Trying going around the under-side perimeter again and pushing it to snap back into place. If your screws were hard to get back in, that's another indication it wasn't 100% lined back up
Any glue how to add the lte module? The internal antenna valves are too short :-(
Do you know if you can install a double sided nvme ssd to the p1? Thinking about getting a 4tb on black friday.
What are the temps under the load for this drive? Is it toasty at laptop bottom while driver is loaded?
Disconnect the battery?
You just have to disable the internal battery like I show in the video before removing the back cover. You don't want any of the electronics potentially powered while you're making modifications.
@@SpeakerFeature Interesting. I've never once disabled the internal battery before opening my ThinkPads, and I've never heard advice to do so. I make sure the machine is off, not connected to anything. And then I open it up. I've watched a dozen on-site IBM technicians working on ThinkPads and never once went into power options/disabled battery. Not disagreeing with this step, just have never heard of it.
It is dangerous to not unplug battery from motherboard!
Thanks for the review. Does it make alot of noise? I want to run linux on it and I'm worried the NVdia will be giving me some issues
The fan kicks in during anything more than web browsing it seems but it's not very bothersome, certainly had worse (P52 for example)
Great share 👍 I got both legion 7i i9 cpu rtx3080 and p1gen4 labtop with same i9 cpu same rtx3080 gpu. Which one do you recommen to keep for performance use?
Thanks! Almost identical specs so at that point go with the one that fits you better. Not sure if you got the 4k version of the P1 display but they 7i might be able to hit higher frame rates at lower res if you're going to doing a lot of gaming. How noisy does the 7i thermal system get? Pretty noticeable? The P1 is probably more rugged with the environmental MIL spec compliance.
Just wondering, if I add the 2TB sdd to the gen 3 port without removing the existing sdd from the gen 4 port and I used the gen 3 port as the boot up drive it still works right?
By doing so I need to copy the existing content from the gen 4 port to the sdd in the gen 3 port and make it the boot up disk then format away the gen 4 sdd
Yes, that'll work. You just want the larger size as Gen3? You could always get a 2TB Gen4, clone, and swap locations. A bit more work (and likely thermal pad redo) but can maximize the Gen4 speed.
Disaster!!
Can't get any support! Email support but never gets an answer anywhere!
Have so many awful problems with my P1 Gen4 so it's embarrassing! I now hate my brand new computer due to all the problems!
Obvious quality problems, color missing on keyboard buttons, fans jerking, white spot on the screen, battery life max 4h, longer battery life on macbook 15 "from 2011, bios updates that kill usb-c / TB4 ports, bluetooth problems, fan problems, sleep mode don't work properly (hot even though led is fading), usb-chime sounds al the time. Fresh windows 10 install with all drivers updated.
Catastrophically Embarrassing!
Computer challenges and subsequent support challenges are really trying. Sending you sympathies and best wishes and much empathy.
is Lenovo P1 suitable for gaming?
Depends on the graphics card the A5000 is equivalent to a 1080ti
not looking like 8k €
No OLED option. Gross.
Hot voice 🔥
is ram and ssd upgradable
This computer is so stupid and with no quality checks before selling to customers! I have color peeling off from keyboard on 3 keys, two BSoD, no way to turn computer off in BSoD (power button not responding), front most USB-A port is unreliable and fails large file copies to externa drive, computer running HOT in sleepmode (leds fading), bluetooth freezes every other second, computer sometimes loops every other minute with chimes like it is unplugging usb, rolling back to bios 1.14 due to dead usb-c ports, white spot in display...
AND THE WORST PART IS THAT LENOVO WONT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO REPLACE IT!
Blaiming the customer because it is "cosmetics" and doesn't cover by warranty, the customer has to pay!!
Can only state lenovo is mafia BLACK MAILING its customers, sending out broken computers and only accept repair if the costumer pays even more!!
I have been trying for over 4 months to get a replacement unit or repair, it was hard to even get an answer from the support! Eventually got an email to global pr at lenovo who send me to EMEA team, well they are only wasting my time blaming me for the "cosmetic" faults....