As long as we see the rage and the most powerful Hulk we've never seen before, I'm ok with him being the vilian. Marvel really need to do Hulk some justice.
@@pierreaston7709 for fucks sake will u people grow some brains and realize that they intentionally had smart hulk pull his punches because it was his FEMALE COUSIN??
I like your second theory the best. Since time runs differently on Sakkar it's very possible his son could be an older teenager or an adult. Could be an interesting setup for one or more movies.
I like the idea that Banner and Hulk have come to an agreement and they both have "a hand on the wheel". It would cool if when they go back to Sakkar, a Sakkar scientist discovers that both personalities are working together, so they use one of the inhibitor chips to suppress the Banner personality, leaving only Hulk. That way Hulk could rage out because he no longer has the reason of Banner guiding him, while still allowing for a redemption later on once the chip is removed.
I like this theory. I don’t like the idea of turning Hulk into a true villain. He’s a short fuse in the comics but he doesn’t develop intelligence and learns to work with Bruce.
I like the idea of them both having "a hand of the wheel". I think it would be interesting if something happens on Sakaar that's SO messed up that Banner willing takes his hand off the wheel so that Hulk can rage...but Hulk sets his sights on Earth and throughout his rampage, Banner and the Hulk are having a battle of wills inside the Hulk's mind. It could end with an uneasy truce between the two inside their mind and a return to the original two-psyche Hulk.
@@mikegomez5121 he definitely does develop intelligence and learn to work with banner read planet hulk. Search up merged hulk & search up weak ass professor hulk
I don’t like the chip thing. Letting the hulk side rage out for some reason triggering his rage and thus surprising Bruce would be more interesting to me. Bruce finding his way through the rage to calm the hulk would be great to see, not for a chip breaking or being fried and vwala smart wimp hulk is back
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WWH wasn't about the hulk just raging, it was the idea that both bruce and hulk were equally mad, so whatever level of rage hulk showed bruce was okay with it with what happened to his people.
Are we not gonna talk about the intense music that started playing once he was he was explaining how he’s still seen as a monster and how that never goes away
Of course he will be the villain. The world war hulk story is about hulk raging and destroying everything. This ties in to the world breaker hulk story where the strongest heroes of earth have to come together to try to stop hulk but all fail (until Sentry comes and uses his full power for the first time and basically stalemates him)
correct me if I'm wrong, but the power that unleashed between both sent both of them back to their human form, which ended in Sentry thanking Bruce Banner for stopping the Hulk. Meaning technically it was Bruce Banner who stopped WWH, right?
@@Retro3 both turned into human form for being so tired but after that bruce again turned into world breaker hulk form strongest form when meek reveals the truth but sentry was still in human form bcuz he could no longer fight , world breaker hulk is hulk that becomes at last but hulk that fought all the heroes is just the scar hulk in wwh , people always confuses between two
I think how the op is going to work is that once he lost control and he rages and he gets passed out by the ship that was in ep 1 and he gets taken back and that'd where war world hulk begins
I believe that there looking for hulk because the red king arrives, and takes over. Maybe releases the spores allowing him to take over and starts up the gladiator games again. But this time hulk inters it freely (this time) and somewhere along the way he falls in love. Which should be a 2 part movie. Him getting married and family and the second part him losing his wife and family.
Smart Hulk was needed. He co-developed the new Infinity Gauntlet with Stark and Rocket, and was the only one strong enough and clear-minded enough to snap back half of all life in the universe. Now the stage is set for his WW and WB arcs.
They've shown that a hero can become a villain in the live action stuff, what with Wanda in Multiverse of Madness... so having Hulk become villain in his own movie wouldn't be unheard of.
I've been arguing that smart Hulk is just Banner suppressing Hulk, same as Hulk suppressed Banner on Sakaar. Hulk is in a box in Banner's head, Hulk doesn't even know that Natasha is dead. Could this be the foundation of World War Hulk? Maestro/Hulk learns of Natasha's death...
I feel like we're gonna find out that the Hulks personality was actually suppressed by Bruce and he didn't like that and he basically brakes free and is pissed, and Hulk feels like earth hates him so he'd not want to be there, plus whatever going on with Sakkar and his possible son
Hulk has been suppressed this entire time, he doesn't know Natasha is dead. He'll blame Banner for holding him in a box, blame Clint for not saving Nat, blame his friends for allowing Banner to keep him in a box... Hulk has no allies and lost the love of his life, similar to the comic World War Hulk.
Hopefully it'll stay comic accurate by the avengers or illuminati (depending who's in charge) sending hulk to space after he loses control of the beast from within OR he goes to sakar to overthrow the grandmaster from ruling and he becomes the new ruler of sakar
@@Andre-vt4np I think he meant edward nortons hulk, not the actor but just that version of the hulk. And I think that would be the best way to go about it. The hulk in that movie was ferocious, scary, powerful and actually there were a lot of cool scenes
Hulk and Thor my 2 favorite Avengers. So anything new for them im all for. I hope tho that hulk becomes that hulk we love again. The hulk that every man and enemy is afraid, Hulk that Is vicious, full of anger. The hulk preferably from The Edward Norton movie or even a World War hulk. Hulk ever since infinity war where he got his ass kicked by thanos has been a embarrassment. We need full rageful hulk now and needed him against thanos Favorite Hero: Batman
If World War Hulk is coming to Phase 5 or Phase 6? I want Sentry to make an appearance or his MCU debut, because he is involved in the storyline of the comics and I really want to see Sentry
They already screwed up planet hulk in a way so i am gonna go with its gonna be completely different from the planet hulk and wwh from the comics. Even if its the illuminati they gonna have to form one first and sentry isnt even a thing yet. So phase 5 gonna need to create all the breadcrumbs i guess
Wouldn’t mind his son telling him someone has taken over the planet named Kang. Professor Hulk has to push how mad he gets to defeat this variant just to lose control. Due to Kang wanting Bruce banner out of the picture and defeating the avengers for him.
I’m really nervous how mcu will handle hulk in the future. as a hulk fan it’s hard to trust the mcu. I did in the beginning but after the first avengers movie it’s been a let down especially in infinity war and endgame. I’m not sure they’ll do hulk justice
I love this idea!! Between now & then we need Sentury! As a fan Hulk vs Sentury would be awesome! If the MCU skips this it's fine to get World Breaker Hulk by using his Son! I don't want Hulk to stay a villain / World breaker Hulk we need somebody strong enough to calm him down Thor, Hercules, She-Hulk and some other ones combined, but Sentury the guy👍🏻Or Ghost Rider💀🔥☠️
I know Banner engineered the whole “Smart(Smug) Hulk” persona. But can Hulk really blame Banner? Remember, Hulk kept refusing to come out in Infinity War. Seems like Hulk’s choice was to stay in the back seat! Lol
I really do hope we get a solo hulk film, especially where hulk is like a time bomb and when he transforms, it's just over for everyone. Like the first one. And that line where Bruce says "once everyone sees you as a monster, that's all they're ever gonna see", I felt like that was kind of a dig at the fans that complain about smart hulk. Like they saw him as rage hulk a few times, and now that's all they want/expect him to be Despite it going against the point of his character growth. Despite it going against the character that BRUCE is. That said, I like smart hulk, and I like rage hulk.
Universals contract with Marvel and Disney owning the rights of Hulk and Namor will expire in June 2023, since its a 15 year deal from 2008-2023. After that contract expires, Marvel and Disney will immediately get those rights back from Universal, and start making solo movies off of them, along with 2 Solo Hulk movies (2003's Hulk and 2008's The Incredible Hulk) being added in Disney+ later on (most likely around Summer 2023).
@@Sucmydack I didn't say their reasoning wasn't valid, just that marvel was taking a shot at people who don't like smart hulk. Frankly, I don't think the problem is that people don't want smart hulk, more that we never saw enough of Bruce in the mcu to find him merging with hulk to he very satisfying. We never got much hulk in general, so for us to really love where his story goes is kinda hard to do.
I don't think Hulk has been gone for the entire time. It took Bruce almost 5 years between the Snap and just before everyone came back to integrate both personalities. If you listen carefully in the first episode of She-Hulk, there's a slight, but noticeable difference in between when Banner is speaking and when "Smart Hulk" is speaking. The cadence and pronunciation is different between the two.
This version of the hulk sucks… bring back Ed Norton please marvel stop nerfing him and use the Ed Norton body hulk. I’ve been disappointed with this avengers hulk all together
I would love another Hulk solo film, but I could also see Marvel make the Hulk the antagonist in the upcoming Thunderbolts film. It's questionable if the Red Hulk will be central to that story since the Thunderbolt Ross actor died, but who better to take on the Hulk than the team created in the name of Hulk's ultimate nemisis?
That "Hand on the wheel and I'm in the trunk" line from Ragnarok always got me thinking that Amadeus Cho would be showing up soon. If Hulk gets WorldBreaker and cannot be stopped, Amadeus somehow absorbing the beast could free banner to live a "normal" life and bring in another Young Avenger at the same time.
I think it would be great if they can somehow set up the Grand Master versus The Collector like for the iso 8 or something at the end of all this leading into some sort of tie in with a Battle World.
Nah,if it ain't banner it ain't the Hulk... besides this is the first time in years that we would be getting an actual proper Hulk and you want someone else to take the mantle?? Nah... best option would be for Hulk to leave at the end. And at some point he shows up again... lol I've never liked my characters passing their mantles to someone else. It just feels cheap... Besides brining amadeus to come and take up the mantle will be super random.
Yes and this goes in line with the comics which btw was amazing and it also brings out a Hulk that can actually be a huge asset come Hickman's saga i.e Secret Wars and pre Secret Wars !
Wanda could turn Hulk furious and teleport him to Sakaar, leaving him trapped on the planet Also, I think World War Hulk could be one of the projects between The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars Edit: my theory got proved wrong already lol, looks like he's flying to Sakaar
I don't think we see her for awhile either but even IF we did, Hulk is immune to magic. Basically, Hulk is so stubborn and pig headed and full of rage he's not susceptible to the effects of magic
It would have to be after secret wars. I’m guessing and hoping that they merge the fox X-men universe and all the other marvel universes into one so that all the heroes are all in one, since world war hulk has to have all those heroes
Here are the characters I really want to see in the World War Hulk movie Bruce Banner Hulk Jennifer Walters She Hulk (also she breaks the fourth wall within the movie A little here and there but not the entire time) Rick Jones A-Bomb Betty Ross Red She Hulk Colonel Thaddeus Ross Red Hulk Skaar
I don't think this is a good idea. WWH is an awesome story filled amazing moments of Hulk breaking the heroes, but it really doesn't work without Planet Hulk being done properly, and Ragnarok screwed the pooch on that one
Yeah I was actually told that hes leaving Earth at the end of episode 2 to go back to Sakarr whether that's true or not who knows but that would definitely play into the theory that Skarr is coming back to earth with hulk in episode 9
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Wait banner actually fights the Hulk? That's surely has to happen in his mind. But looking at this picture towards the end it's got to be a mind struggle battle. Now you see this is what I was hoping for. And someone mentioned about sentry and how he was involved something similar as well since he has his own demon: void. I'd love to see that internal struggle of both
I think this is a Civil War type of event. They will find a way to break up the Avengers and Kang will destroy them when they are at their vulnerable state.
So if Bruce Banner was held down and can't remember anything when he was on Sakaar, how the hell did he know exactly what model ship that was in exactly where it was from and that they were trying to send him a message? For him not to have known anything or been able to remember what happened when he was there, he sure does know a lot about their technology and what they're doing....
It's been a long time since Ragnarok, 5+ years, plenty of time for Banner to learn all that, especially with the combined knowledge of the Guardians (mostly Rocket) and Capt marvel, and don't forget banner did actually fly that same model ship at the end of Ragnarok
i mean i love the second theory honestly, time runs differently on Sakaar and it is very possible that his secretive son while he was Hulk during those years in Ragnarok could be an older teenager or an adult
Here’s my theory… after the events of Thor Love and Thunder. The Grandmaster goes missing (due to Gorr killing him or whatever). So the people on Sakaar calls him back to save them, now that a ruler has taken over. Then after Bruce Banner arrives, they subdue him and he goes back into the green raging monster. Idk just my theory.
I would really love to see this happen in World war Hulk and see the full in rage hulk just go all out and where the Hulk will probably be more dangerous than ever more than how he used to be
Everybody will love to see the The Hulk vs Wolverine. That could be a good show the audience of the two characters fighting each other one thing where I do know a little bit about the comics And what he say is true About the Arthur creating the Hulk was perfect for the Wolverine even because Wolverine has the adamantium which is the the hulk cannot rip apart Wolverine because he has instructable metal in his body that makes him instructable which is Wolverine is on breakable. Character Wolverine was was created for the best of the wendigo project. Who could put his And a metal claws into anything as sharper than steel to cut through a lot of objects including all of his enemies Wolverine had it encountered over the years. Weapon X soldiers and did the Wendigo. I remember for the interviews he talked about Wolverine taking on a a bigger creature. More than Wolverine's size of the character he is with the great power he has. In the relationships he had throughout the years of the X-Men. And the same way with Wolverine taking on the juggernaut. I think the Hulk will be a great new addition to face the Wolverine for a good show. That could sell a lot of good movie tickets with outstanding performance. Let's see who's going to step in to play the character of Wolverine no wonder if it will be Hugh Jackman to continue his main character or someone else. I think nobody cannot replace Hugh Jackman to Wolverine he is the best Wolverine I ever seen throughout the years of movies. In the same way with all the actors who have betrayed the Hulk Mark Renfro Luther Ferrigno. Eric Bana. Bill BIXEY
I hope that they will get the director that directed Kong: Skull island because I mean if we are doing a World War Hulk film and we are gonna see some action and destruction from a raging hulk I mean I think the director that direct kong skull island would be perfect I mean if u have seen Kong Skull Island u know he can make hulk very entertaining also I’m hoping they don’t make him a comical relief because I’d rather want this story too he more dark toned, and dark thematically and I sort of think that marvel doesn’t understand what it means to be dark like when I’m thinking of something dark thematically it would have to be something like Godzilla 2014, A Quiet Place, idk something like those kind of movies
I know it's a one in a million shot - really no chance at all - but I want to see the Hulk and old man Logan on the big screen. Not sure Disney would be down for that story line given what happens and how it ends, not to mention the whole Hugh not coming back for Wolverine anymore, but it would be great.
If this theory might be correct; Than I’m guessing that SmartHulk might become very enraged, and might go temporarily insane do to something he either witnesses, or do to something he might experience.
As longg as they put hulk backk to his true form and his full power.. like they’ve done every other op or powerful character, in marvel.. finally we get the comic accurate and true form version of hulk😤😤🎯
I will say I like the idea of this dark storyline going on like maybe he does have a kid with this person and then they both died then he Hulk's out then he becomes a villain we should be one step closer to maestro. I believe he starts as the overseer and then maestro. I'm just saying this is a good idea
Every Marvel fan has always wanted a World War Hulk movie. Maybe if Valkyrie dies Hulk will get all full of Rage. She was the closest lady to him that we've seen other that Natasha
Now I need to binge agents of SMASH now that I know that that's his son. He was the one member of the group aside from a-bomb that I was like "I don't know who you are I don't know where you came from" and it would also explain why he has a sort of gladiator look to him. He's from sakaar. My mind is blown
The Hulk and Bruce Banner struggle with one another on a psychological level...we saw a little bit of that in Avengers Infinity War...Hulk feels Bruce was too weak that's why Natalia died...but Brice tells Hilk, "I wasn't the one afraid to face Thanos for the second time you were, so who's truly weak when they're too afraid to face their fears!" The battle in Wakanda comes to mind for the Hulk and Banner In This Moment. This with a mixture of some other things that could possibly mess with the psyche would be a really good standout for the MCU making a Hulk movie with some good action of course.
I think it would be great if they can somehow set up the Grand Master versus The Collector like for the iso 8 or something at the end of all this leading into some sort of tie in with a Battle World. Maybe even better than that could be that the Collector kidnapped Hulks family and Grandmaster needs Hulk to help get them back leading into a Battle world or introduction of Maestro!
Dogg u know how satisfied hulk fans are gonna be? Finallyy the give hulk his true form and full power.. like they’ve gave every other super powerful and op character in mcu… finallyy get the comic accurate and true form of the hulkk😤😤🎯
Honestly not sure I would even believe this because the MCU has changed so many events from comics it’s hard to believe after she hulk he would become a villain … I could very well be wrong but a solo hulk movie of him being the hero again is past due they need to make him like he was in Incredible Hulk 2008 and get Craig Armstrong back for the soundtrack
4:58 in and now I have a theory, after the 2nd episode of she hulk we see hulk in space, world War hulk mcu will have hulk beating captain marvel aka later revealed to be a skrull. Imo, just like the comic showed hulk beating black bolt
Oh so he briefly did kind of go angry in episode 1 I mean that's kind of clear that something's happening. I feel like by the end of this series something's going to push him over the edge and when it does we will be like screaming at the screen like "YES FINALLY!"
Other option I prefer. Hulk vs Wolverine. You can really sell that story to everybody. It gets Wolverine into the MCU. And they can let things run wild. Add in a few other characters and then comic book fans will be happy. Totally different from anything we've seen before.
The thing abt that is… Wolverine doesn’t stand a chance. Maybe if it was smart hulk vs Wolverine it’d be a nice fight, but we want to see hulk rage out, and when hulk rages out Wolverine would just get swatted away with one hit and it’s over from there
@@DiegoRivera-cc4zi But if Wolverine is the underdog and over matched, that is what makes it interesting and different. Much like Godzilla vs Kong. You want to see what would happen.
I know this won't happen but I would hope they would use sentry in the final hulk clash from WWH. They probably won't include him because he is to powerful.
That might be one of the best comic book movies of all time if done right. Hulk, spiderman, and wolverine were the face of MARVEL back in the day. Would be nice to see that
For some comic relief in this movie, they could do Savage Banner. Seeing puny Banner trying to pick up a car or punch a wall would be funny. Mark Ruffalo just running around and yelling trying to Hulk Smash stuff.
Hulk was essentially a gladiator in Ragnarok, he was no more in charge of Sakaar than Russell Crowe was running Rome in Gladiator. Grandmaster is a Celestial like The Collector and Ego, he was the Caesar of Sakaar. Red King is most likely the big bad and Skaar is part of a rebellion and it was him who sent the message hoping for Savage Hulk & getting Smart Hulk. That's not gonna be good for anyone.
...imagining an MCU 10 years down the line with an established raged-out Hulk power level and an established Silver Surfer... the on-screen depiction of Hulk jumping onto his board attempting to fight him. He turns around, effortlessly catches his fists in mid-air, and calmly says "No," absorbing the Hulk out of Bruce Banner as he stands there in grateful shock and amazement.
I feel like we're going to figure out what's going to happen with Bruce Banner and the Hulk. Maybe they'll fight each other for who takes control of their body. Who knows what's going to happen? We'll have to wait and see.
World War Hulk isn't a blindly rageful character. He's a white hot focus rageful character. It's not just the Hulk raging it's Hulk and banner coming to an agreement and both are in control at the same time which allows him to achieve that level of power and intelligence. World Breaker Hulk however is better and hope both becoming blindly rageful.
Yeah world war hulk planet hulk was as you described. That's why when caiera asked hulk to show him his true face, he reverted back to Bruce. World War Hulk hopefully stays true to that. I don't want to see a mindless raging hulk.
@@bandoogiemanz Yeah World War Hulk is a focus intelligent rage. He doesn't revert back into a blind rage until he goes World Breaker which is why Banner sabotaged The Hulks fight with Sentry to stop them from destroying the planet.
Hulk is the best villian that Hulk has left to face. Banner vs Hulk is his story. Smart Hulk is not the end of the Hulks story. It’s just the calm before the storm. Banner said that Smart Hulk is “the best of both worlds” he put “the brain and the brawn together.” If you think about that for more than a moment, you’ll see the problem. Banner is living his best life, and The Hulk is in a prison, without his body or his mind. And getting angrier everyday. Ive been waiting for this since Endgame.
The way jen pissed off bruce by saying all those mean things that just reminded me of the marvel avengers game where tony started taunting bruce and bruce was trying so hard to hold back but then he hulks out and attacks tony
he better be the villain. mark said he wanted to go out with a bang so making hulk go nuts and the avengers have to come stop him, it makes me excited that we could get a crazy movie and hell they could easily get wolverine in that movie to finally get wolverine vs hulk and since hugh jackman once said he'd come back for that without question so time will tell. 3:35 wait she hulk does have an alter ego just like the hulk
As long as we see the rage and the most powerful Hulk we've never seen before, I'm ok with him being the vilian. Marvel really need to do Hulk some justice.
And the writers of She Hulk are nowhere near it
@@pierreaston7709 for fucks sake will u people grow some brains and realize that they intentionally had smart hulk pull his punches because it was his FEMALE COUSIN??
Oh I would care less if they made Hulk the villain. I just want my destructive and raging Hulk again.
@@banmanashah same, him being the villain of this story is pretty accurate two
@@banmanashah couldn’t*
I like your second theory the best. Since time runs differently on Sakkar it's very possible his son could be an older teenager or an adult. Could be an interesting setup for one or more movies.
I like the idea that Banner and Hulk have come to an agreement and they both have "a hand on the wheel". It would cool if when they go back to Sakkar, a Sakkar scientist discovers that both personalities are working together, so they use one of the inhibitor chips to suppress the Banner personality, leaving only Hulk. That way Hulk could rage out because he no longer has the reason of Banner guiding him, while still allowing for a redemption later on once the chip is removed.
I like this theory. I don’t like the idea of turning Hulk into a true villain. He’s a short fuse in the comics but he doesn’t develop intelligence and learns to work with Bruce.
I like the idea of them both having "a hand of the wheel". I think it would be interesting if something happens on Sakaar that's SO messed up that Banner willing takes his hand off the wheel so that Hulk can rage...but Hulk sets his sights on Earth and throughout his rampage, Banner and the Hulk are having a battle of wills inside the Hulk's mind. It could end with an uneasy truce between the two inside their mind and a return to the original two-psyche Hulk.
Shit sounds terrible
@@mikegomez5121 he definitely does develop intelligence and learn to work with banner read planet hulk. Search up merged hulk & search up weak ass professor hulk
I don’t like the chip thing. Letting the hulk side rage out for some reason triggering his rage and thus surprising Bruce would be more interesting to me. Bruce finding his way through the rage to calm the hulk would be great to see, not for a chip breaking or being fried and vwala smart wimp hulk is back
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WWH wasn't about the hulk just raging, it was the idea that both bruce and hulk were equally mad, so whatever level of rage hulk showed bruce was okay with it with what happened to his people.
Exactly. Disney wouldn't know how to do the story justice
Are we not gonna talk about the intense music that started playing once he was he was explaining how he’s still seen as a monster and how that never goes away
Of course he will be the villain. The world war hulk story is about hulk raging and destroying everything. This ties in to the world breaker hulk story where the strongest heroes of earth have to come together to try to stop hulk but all fail (until Sentry comes and uses his full power for the first time and basically stalemates him)
Best part about that is hulk purposely went back to Bruce form to flush out the traitor … Meek .🔥🔥
correct me if I'm wrong, but the power that unleashed between both sent both of them back to their human form, which ended in Sentry thanking Bruce Banner for stopping the Hulk. Meaning technically it was Bruce Banner who stopped WWH, right?
@@Retro3 both turned into human form for being so tired but after that bruce again turned into world breaker hulk form strongest form when meek reveals the truth but sentry was still in human form bcuz he could no longer fight , world breaker hulk is hulk that becomes at last but hulk that fought all the heroes is just the scar hulk in wwh , people always confuses between two
I think how the op is going to work is that once he lost control and he rages and he gets passed out by the ship that was in ep 1 and he gets taken back and that'd where war world hulk begins
Those would be a good trilogy for the HULK he deserves it
He was the villain in the comic series so I don’t see why this is shocking to anyone
Because some people haven’t read the comic series
@@THEDAPEES then read comics
@@impossible851 I do. Not everyone is into comics dude
Because the MCU is notorious for nerfing the powerful characters😀
@@THEDAPEES I swear the people that read the comics act sp condescending
I believe that there looking for hulk because the red king arrives, and takes over. Maybe releases the spores allowing him to take over and starts up the gladiator games again. But this time hulk inters it freely (this time) and somewhere along the way he falls in love. Which should be a 2 part movie. Him getting married and family and the second part him losing his wife and family.
Smart Hulk was needed. He co-developed the new Infinity Gauntlet with Stark and Rocket, and was the only one strong enough and clear-minded enough to snap back half of all life in the universe.
Now the stage is set for his WW and WB arcs.
They've shown that a hero can become a villain in the live action stuff, what with Wanda in Multiverse of Madness... so having Hulk become villain in his own movie wouldn't be unheard of.
I've been arguing that smart Hulk is just Banner suppressing Hulk, same as Hulk suppressed Banner on Sakaar.
Hulk is in a box in Banner's head, Hulk doesn't even know that Natasha is dead.
Could this be the foundation of World War Hulk? Maestro/Hulk learns of Natasha's death...
I feel like we're gonna find out that the Hulks personality was actually suppressed by Bruce and he didn't like that and he basically brakes free and is pissed, and Hulk feels like earth hates him so he'd not want to be there, plus whatever going on with Sakkar and his possible son
Actually that could be the case
Dumb idea tbh I think hulk will stub his toe and will kill half the mcu
@@josh8404a ahahahaha that would be hilarious and very entertaining
He’s got no son in the mcu
Hulk has been suppressed this entire time, he doesn't know Natasha is dead.
He'll blame Banner for holding him in a box, blame Clint for not saving Nat, blame his friends for allowing Banner to keep him in a box... Hulk has no allies and lost the love of his life, similar to the comic World War Hulk.
Hopefully it'll stay comic accurate by the avengers or illuminati (depending who's in charge) sending hulk to space after he loses control of the beast from within OR he goes to sakar to overthrow the grandmaster from ruling and he becomes the new ruler of sakar
Yeah that’s not happening as you can see.. this guy flew there on his own
Id bring Edward Norton as a hulk from another universe. He was perfect!
We’re way past that buddy move on lmao
Lmao just move on Norton aint that good
@@Andre-vt4np I think he meant edward nortons hulk, not the actor but just that version of the hulk. And I think that would be the best way to go about it. The hulk in that movie was ferocious, scary, powerful and actually there were a lot of cool scenes
I’ve said this before but I really hope we get the dual complex back before WWH. I need to see standard big green before we lose him
What do you mean with lose him so he die ??
@@Ryu_Hayabusa45 there’s a solid chance that if we get WWH he’ll die
@@THEDAPEES Hulk can not die !!!
@@Ryu_Hayabusa45 as evidenced by what if he can lol I hope not tho
Bruh go outside
Hulk and Thor my 2 favorite Avengers. So anything new for them im all for. I hope tho that hulk becomes that hulk we love again. The hulk that every man and enemy is afraid, Hulk that Is vicious, full of anger. The hulk preferably from The Edward Norton movie or even a World War hulk. Hulk ever since infinity war where he got his ass kicked by thanos has been a embarrassment. We need full rageful hulk now and needed him against thanos
Favorite Hero: Batman
Other than Thor, I thought your other favourite Avenger was Captain America not Hulk.
@@PaulGarrett555 u thought wrong
If World War Hulk is coming to Phase 5 or Phase 6?
I want Sentry to make an appearance or his MCU debut, because he is involved in the storyline of the comics and I really want to see Sentry
They already screwed up planet hulk in a way so i am gonna go with its gonna be completely different from the planet hulk and wwh from the comics. Even if its the illuminati they gonna have to form one first and sentry isnt even a thing yet. So phase 5 gonna need to create all the breadcrumbs i guess
Wouldn’t mind his son telling him someone has taken over the planet named Kang. Professor Hulk has to push how mad he gets to defeat this variant just to lose control. Due to Kang wanting Bruce banner out of the picture and defeating the avengers for him.
I’m really nervous how mcu will handle hulk in the future. as a hulk fan it’s hard to trust the mcu. I did in the beginning but after the first avengers movie it’s been a let down especially in infinity war and endgame. I’m not sure they’ll do hulk justice
Same man
I agree. Ang Lee did the best Hulk. The Hulk doesn't need body armor btw.
I love this idea!! Between now & then we need Sentury! As a fan Hulk vs Sentury would be awesome! If the MCU skips this it's fine to get World Breaker Hulk by using his Son! I don't want Hulk to stay a villain / World breaker Hulk we need somebody strong enough to calm him down Thor, Hercules, She-Hulk and some other ones combined, but Sentury the guy👍🏻Or Ghost Rider💀🔥☠️
I know Banner engineered the whole “Smart(Smug) Hulk” persona. But can Hulk really blame Banner? Remember, Hulk kept refusing to come out in Infinity War. Seems like Hulk’s choice was to stay in the back seat! Lol
Once they made hulk soft infinity wars, the entire marvel ended. Ruined that movie and everything they’ve done since. The only hit was 3spidermans .
I really do hope we get a solo hulk film, especially where hulk is like a time bomb and when he transforms, it's just over for everyone. Like the first one.
And that line where Bruce says "once everyone sees you as a monster, that's all they're ever gonna see", I felt like that was kind of a dig at the fans that complain about smart hulk. Like they saw him as rage hulk a few times, and now that's all they want/expect him to be Despite it going against the point of his character growth. Despite it going against the character that BRUCE is. That said, I like smart hulk, and I like rage hulk.
Universals contract with Marvel and Disney owning the rights of Hulk and Namor will expire in June 2023, since its a 15 year deal from 2008-2023. After that contract expires, Marvel and Disney will immediately get those rights back from Universal, and start making solo movies off of them, along with 2 Solo Hulk movies (2003's Hulk and 2008's The Incredible Hulk) being added in Disney+ later on (most likely around Summer 2023).
Youre entitled to your own opinion, but theres a valid reason most ppl dont like smart hulk
@@Sucmydack I didn't say their reasoning wasn't valid, just that marvel was taking a shot at people who don't like smart hulk. Frankly, I don't think the problem is that people don't want smart hulk, more that we never saw enough of Bruce in the mcu to find him merging with hulk to he very satisfying. We never got much hulk in general, so for us to really love where his story goes is kinda hard to do.
@@patrickherschberger6728 well i also dont like it because it litterally contradicts its own storytelling
@@Sucmydack how does it contradict?
I don't think Hulk has been gone for the entire time. It took Bruce almost 5 years between the Snap and just before everyone came back to integrate both personalities. If you listen carefully in the first episode of She-Hulk, there's a slight, but noticeable difference in between when Banner is speaking and when "Smart Hulk" is speaking. The cadence and pronunciation is different between the two.
Imagine they announce this movie at D23 🤯🥵
1. If Hulk gets contaminated from where he went from space….
2. If Hulk comes from another Univers…
3. If his blood get into other ppl…
I wouldn’t care if they made Hulk the villain. I want the Hulk I’ve always known.
This version of the hulk sucks… bring back Ed Norton please marvel stop nerfing him and use the Ed Norton body hulk. I’ve been disappointed with this avengers hulk all together
I would love another Hulk solo film, but I could also see Marvel make the Hulk the antagonist in the upcoming Thunderbolts film. It's questionable if the Red Hulk will be central to that story since the Thunderbolt Ross actor died, but who better to take on the Hulk than the team created in the name of Hulk's ultimate nemisis?
That "Hand on the wheel and I'm in the trunk" line from Ragnarok always got me thinking that Amadeus Cho would be showing up soon. If Hulk gets WorldBreaker and cannot be stopped, Amadeus somehow absorbing the beast could free banner to live a "normal" life and bring in another Young Avenger at the same time.
I mean his mother is already in the MCU?! 🤔
I think it would be great if they can somehow set up the Grand Master versus The Collector like for the iso 8 or something at the end of all this leading into some sort of tie in with a Battle World.
@@SpiderDan2099 the collector is dead?!
@@sidoGold1980 exactly the pieces are already there they just got to build on it.
Nah,if it ain't banner it ain't the Hulk... besides this is the first time in years that we would be getting an actual proper Hulk and you want someone else to take the mantle?? Nah... best option would be for Hulk to leave at the end. And at some point he shows up again... lol I've never liked my characters passing their mantles to someone else. It just feels cheap...
Besides brining amadeus to come and take up the mantle will be super random.
I would be excited about this and would love to see. But modern day Disney will eff it up. They probably would try and make it a comedy.
I just hope it makes sense for him to change and it isn't forced
I agree. He should not be a villain. I want to him to rage out, but for a good reason. He should be a hero.
@@lederricka sorry but this is an alternative timeline even in the comic he was evil in the wwh comic
Yes and this goes in line with the comics which btw was amazing and it also brings out a Hulk that can actually be a huge asset come Hickman's saga i.e Secret Wars and pre Secret Wars !
Wanda could turn Hulk furious and teleport him to Sakaar, leaving him trapped on the planet
Also, I think World War Hulk could be one of the projects between The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars
Edit: my theory got proved wrong already lol, looks like he's flying to Sakaar
I don't think we see her for awhile either but even IF we did, Hulk is immune to magic. Basically, Hulk is so stubborn and pig headed and full of rage he's not susceptible to the effects of magic
It would have to be after secret wars. I’m guessing and hoping that they merge the fox X-men universe and all the other marvel universes into one so that all the heroes are all in one, since world war hulk has to have all those heroes
@@swimmer8585 how many times are we gonna learn the hard way that these cross over events don’t need EVERY single character…
@@CaptainRockoBD It does if they want to bring the fox properties into the MCU without it making zero sense
Here are the characters I really want to see in the World War Hulk movie
Bruce Banner Hulk
Jennifer Walters She Hulk (also she breaks the fourth wall within the movie A little here and there but not the entire time)
Rick Jones A-Bomb
Betty Ross Red She Hulk
Colonel Thaddeus Ross Red Hulk
Skaar
And of course Samuel Sterns as The Leader
I disagree with the breaking of the fourth wall here... This movie should be serious not comical...
@@cybersoldierforever Oh yeah I forgot about The Leader
I don't think this is a good idea. WWH is an awesome story filled amazing moments of Hulk breaking the heroes, but it really doesn't work without Planet Hulk being done properly, and Ragnarok screwed the pooch on that one
Hulk needs to smash again..
Yeah I was actually told that hes leaving Earth at the end of episode 2 to go back to Sakarr whether that's true or not who knows but that would definitely play into the theory that Skarr is coming back to earth with hulk in episode 9
Mark Ruffalo truly does deserve a solo film! I really like this storyline theory.
What a awesome video Cosmic Wounder and it would be awesome to see rage Hulk again 😀 👏 when he returns to SAKAAR.
U know what’s crazy about this channel? Every time I think about a film if it’s gonna come out I always try to watch videos about it and this channel always uploads at the same time I’m looking for a video like this one 😂😂💯💯❤️❤️
I just hope he yells "It's Hulkin Time" and then he Hulks out on everyone!
Wait banner actually fights the Hulk? That's surely has to happen in his mind. But looking at this picture towards the end it's got to be a mind struggle battle. Now you see this is what I was hoping for. And someone mentioned about sentry and how he was involved something similar as well since he has his own demon: void. I'd love to see that internal struggle of both
As of right now this is weird timing because I am re-watching the Hulk 2008 movie after so long and it’s a masterpiece. 🖤💚🖤
World War hulk going be epic
love how marvel is treating bruce trying new things
but in my eyes this would redeem him
if marvel pull this off than kudos to them💯
I think this is a Civil War type of event.
They will find a way to break up the Avengers and Kang will destroy them when they are at their vulnerable state.
So the same as with Thanos?
Didn’t that already happen with infinity war
So if Bruce Banner was held down and can't remember anything when he was on Sakaar, how the hell did he know exactly what model ship that was in exactly where it was from and that they were trying to send him a message? For him not to have known anything or been able to remember what happened when he was there, he sure does know a lot about their technology and what they're doing....
It's been a long time since Ragnarok, 5+ years, plenty of time for Banner to learn all that, especially with the combined knowledge of the Guardians (mostly Rocket) and Capt marvel, and don't forget banner did actually fly that same model ship at the end of Ragnarok
i mean i love the second theory honestly, time runs differently on Sakaar and it is very possible that his secretive son while he was Hulk during those years in Ragnarok could be an older teenager or an adult
I always loved world war hulk cause it really makes hulk out to be a foomaday type character, i really hope zac zynder directs this
I think it’s going to be very different for sure if they do a movie
WWHulk if done right could be the most brutal as well as the most emotional movie in the mcu and I'm all for it.
Exactly.. Hulk has so much potential that's just being wasted.
After watching Wanda as the main villain on Dr. Strange, I understrand that only way we get to see Hulk as his most power form is as the main villain.
Here’s my theory… after the events of Thor Love and Thunder. The Grandmaster goes missing (due to Gorr killing him or whatever). So the people on Sakaar calls him back to save them, now that a ruler has taken over. Then after Bruce Banner arrives, they subdue him and he goes back into the green raging monster. Idk just my theory.
I would really love to see this happen in World war Hulk and see the full in rage hulk just go all out and where the Hulk will probably be more dangerous than ever more than how he used to be
Everybody will love to see the
The Hulk vs Wolverine.
That could be a good show the audience of the two characters fighting each other one thing where I do know a little bit about the comics
And what he say is true
About the Arthur creating the Hulk was perfect for the Wolverine even because Wolverine has the adamantium which is the the hulk cannot rip apart Wolverine because he has instructable metal in his body that makes him instructable which is Wolverine is on breakable. Character Wolverine was was created for the best of the wendigo project.
Who could put his
And a metal claws into anything as sharper than steel to cut through a lot of objects including all of his enemies Wolverine had it encountered over the years.
Weapon X soldiers and did the Wendigo.
I remember for the interviews he talked about Wolverine taking on a a bigger creature.
More than Wolverine's size of the character he is with the great power he has. In the relationships he had throughout the years of the X-Men.
And the same way with Wolverine taking on the juggernaut.
I think the Hulk will be a great new addition to face the Wolverine for a good show. That could sell a lot of good movie tickets with outstanding performance.
Let's see who's going to step in to play the character of Wolverine no wonder if it will be Hugh Jackman to continue his main character or someone else.
I think nobody cannot replace Hugh Jackman to Wolverine he is the best Wolverine I ever seen throughout the years of movies.
In the same way with all the actors who have betrayed the Hulk
Mark Renfro
Luther Ferrigno.
Eric Bana.
Bill BIXEY
I feel like Betty plays such a big role in Hulk's character (it really humanizes Hulk). I really hope they find a way to do that.
I hope that they will get the director that directed Kong: Skull island because I mean if we are doing a World War Hulk film and we are gonna see some action and destruction from a raging hulk I mean I think the director that direct kong skull island would be perfect I mean if u have seen Kong Skull Island u know he can make hulk very entertaining also I’m hoping they don’t make him a comical relief because I’d rather want this story too he more dark toned, and dark thematically and I sort of think that marvel doesn’t understand what it means to be dark like when I’m thinking of something dark thematically it would have to be something like Godzilla 2014, A Quiet Place, idk something like those kind of movies
I know it's a one in a million shot - really no chance at all - but I want to see the Hulk and old man Logan on the big screen. Not sure Disney would be down for that story line given what happens and how it ends, not to mention the whole Hugh not coming back for Wolverine anymore, but it would be great.
@Rob Kranz or normal Logan
As long as by the end of all this it leads to Wolverines that’s all that matters
That would be interesting but idk why they’d do that & how it would make sense.
well I mean, do u know what world war hulk is
Finally Hulk will be awesome again.
I truly hope that this project comes for phase 6!! They teased that bit in Avengers 2. Full rage on Hulk vs the Avengers or maybe the Thunderbolts!
If this theory might be correct; Than I’m guessing that SmartHulk might become very enraged, and might go temporarily insane do to something he either witnesses, or do to something he might experience.
So hyped for this film! 😮
Would be very nice to get world war hulk👍🏻😀
They better make him say ‘hulk smash’ like in incredible hulk. Such an iconic line man
“Tragic story” is the only line I need to hear to know this will never happen. Disney and marvel aren’t about tragedy anymore
As longg as they put hulk backk to his true form and his full power.. like they’ve done every other op or powerful character, in marvel.. finally we get the comic accurate and true form version of hulk😤😤🎯
yeah i'll believe it when i see it. i have absolutely no faith that marvel will do hulk any justice
I will say I like the idea of this dark storyline going on like maybe he does have a kid with this person and then they both died then he Hulk's out then he becomes a villain we should be one step closer to maestro. I believe he starts as the overseer and then maestro. I'm just saying this is a good idea
Every Marvel fan has always wanted a World War Hulk movie. Maybe if Valkyrie dies Hulk will get all full of Rage. She was the closest lady to him that we've seen other that Natasha
True man.... It's what we've been waited on so let's hope it fully pans out
Now I need to binge agents of SMASH now that I know that that's his son. He was the one member of the group aside from a-bomb that I was like "I don't know who you are I don't know where you came from" and it would also explain why he has a sort of gladiator look to him. He's from sakaar. My mind is blown
Every since that video where you said Jane foster Thor hammer could throw ice sickles😂😂😂 it’s been hard for me to take you serious ✌️
The Hulk and Bruce Banner struggle with one another on a psychological level...we saw a little bit of that in Avengers Infinity War...Hulk feels Bruce was too weak that's why Natalia died...but Brice tells Hilk, "I wasn't the one afraid to face Thanos for the second time you were, so who's truly weak when they're too afraid to face their fears!" The battle in Wakanda comes to mind for the Hulk and Banner In This Moment. This with a mixture of some other things that could possibly mess with the psyche would be a really good standout for the MCU making a Hulk movie with some good action of course.
They have literally used the hulk as a stepping stone for other heroes this entire time. He really needs the spot light and a redemption story.
Woah. What if Banner gets 'cat called?' Game over.
Seems legit.
I think it would be great if they can somehow set up the Grand Master versus The Collector like for the iso 8 or something at the end of all this leading into some sort of tie in with a Battle World. Maybe even better than that could be that the Collector kidnapped Hulks family and Grandmaster needs Hulk to help get them back leading into a Battle world or introduction of Maestro!
Dogg u know how satisfied hulk fans are gonna be? Finallyy the give hulk his true form and full power.. like they’ve gave every other super powerful and op character in mcu… finallyy get the comic accurate and true form of the hulkk😤😤🎯
Honestly not sure I would even believe this because the MCU has changed so many events from comics it’s hard to believe after she hulk he would become a villain … I could very well be wrong but a solo hulk movie of him being the hero again is past due they need to make him like he was in Incredible Hulk 2008 and get Craig Armstrong back for the soundtrack
4:58 in and now I have a theory, after the 2nd episode of she hulk we see hulk in space, world War hulk mcu will have hulk beating captain marvel aka later revealed to be a skrull. Imo, just like the comic showed hulk beating black bolt
Oh so he briefly did kind of go angry in episode 1 I mean that's kind of clear that something's happening. I feel like by the end of this series something's going to push him over the edge and when it does we will be like screaming at the screen like "YES FINALLY!"
Other option I prefer. Hulk vs Wolverine. You can really sell that story to everybody. It gets Wolverine into the MCU. And they can let things run wild. Add in a few other characters and then comic book fans will be happy. Totally different from anything we've seen before.
The thing abt that is… Wolverine doesn’t stand a chance. Maybe if it was smart hulk vs Wolverine it’d be a nice fight, but we want to see hulk rage out, and when hulk rages out Wolverine would just get swatted away with one hit and it’s over from there
@@DiegoRivera-cc4zi But if Wolverine is the underdog and over matched, that is what makes it interesting and different. Much like Godzilla vs Kong. You want to see what would happen.
@@davids9520 I get you, I’d love to see it aswell. David vs Goliath
Ohhh I swear I got goosebumps watching this video I hope marvel listening to us !!!
They just fixed Spider-Man now its the hulk’s turn😈
This gonna be hard though I can't wait to see the real hulk
I know this won't happen but I would hope they would use sentry in the final hulk clash from WWH. They probably won't include him because he is to powerful.
That might be one of the best comic book movies of all time if done right. Hulk, spiderman, and wolverine were the face of MARVEL back in the day. Would be nice to see that
For some comic relief in this movie, they could do Savage Banner. Seeing puny Banner trying to pick up a car or punch a wall would be funny. Mark Ruffalo just running around and yelling trying to Hulk Smash stuff.
Hulk was essentially a gladiator in Ragnarok, he was no more in charge of Sakaar than Russell Crowe was running Rome in Gladiator. Grandmaster is a Celestial like The Collector and Ego, he was the Caesar of Sakaar. Red King is most likely the big bad and Skaar is part of a rebellion and it was him who sent the message hoping for Savage Hulk & getting Smart Hulk. That's not gonna be good for anyone.
I can actually see them using Henry Cavill’s Hyperion, instead of Sentry just to lead into The Thunderbolts movie.
It wouldnt make sense because we woulda heard of Hulk’s family in Ragnarok
They don't even follow their own previous plot points, so it's not a problem.
...imagining an MCU 10 years down the line with an established raged-out Hulk power level and an established Silver Surfer... the on-screen depiction of Hulk jumping onto his board attempting to fight him. He turns around, effortlessly catches his fists in mid-air, and calmly says "No," absorbing the Hulk out of Bruce Banner as he stands there in grateful shock and amazement.
I feel like we're going to figure out what's going to happen with Bruce Banner and the Hulk. Maybe they'll fight each other for who takes control of their body.
Who knows what's going to happen?
We'll have to wait and see.
World War Hulk will be the return of rage and destructful hulk
World War Hulk isn't a blindly rageful character. He's a white hot focus rageful character. It's not just the Hulk raging it's Hulk and banner coming to an agreement and both are in control at the same time which allows him to achieve that level of power and intelligence. World Breaker Hulk however is better and hope both becoming blindly rageful.
Yeah world war hulk planet hulk was as you described. That's why when caiera asked hulk to show him his true face, he reverted back to Bruce. World War Hulk hopefully stays true to that. I don't want to see a mindless raging hulk.
@@bandoogiemanz Yeah World War Hulk is a focus intelligent rage. He doesn't revert back into a blind rage until he goes World Breaker which is why Banner sabotaged The Hulks fight with Sentry to stop them from destroying the planet.
Hulk is the best villian that Hulk has left to face. Banner vs Hulk is his story.
Smart Hulk is not the end of the Hulks story. It’s just the calm before the storm.
Banner said that Smart Hulk is “the best of both worlds” he put “the brain and the brawn together.” If you think about that for more than a moment, you’ll see the problem. Banner is living his best life, and The Hulk is in a prison, without his body or his mind. And getting angrier everyday.
Ive been waiting for this since Endgame.
He needs to be the villain show his true strength that we never got to see. But If they ever kill the Hulk off I will be extremely disappointed
The way jen pissed off bruce by saying all those mean things that just reminded me of the marvel avengers game where tony started taunting bruce and bruce was trying so hard to hold back but then he hulks out and attacks tony
he better be the villain. mark said he wanted to go out with a bang so making hulk go nuts and the avengers have to come stop him, it makes me excited that we could get a crazy movie and hell they could easily get wolverine in that movie to finally get wolverine vs hulk and since hugh jackman once said he'd come back for that without question so time will tell. 3:35 wait she hulk does have an alter ego just like the hulk
That is fantastic to see him in the world war hulk,but when he use his final power like war world hulk breaker that insane
I want Hulk to go all out in Control of the body. I want my destructive and raging Hulk again. That is what we all Want and Need.