@Swimthenatator That's correct, not so much with the production side but most definitely with the writing. Would Einstein be considered a genius if we found out he wasn't the one figuring out complex equations and theories?
@@jrbrawlersgaming1816 but you don't understand what being a genius means It means using existing ideas & resources to create something new & original. Read the book How to steal like an artist You'll understand what genius means So no one in this life is a genius in that case because all knowledge art science is based on nature and pre existing ideas 💡
@@jrbrawlersgaming1816 Einstein Probably had help bro from other physicists chemists and researchers Most people you praise in life understand the power of collaboration So did Elon musk,Steve jobs and other greats we call They used many people and other inspirations for their works
There is none SRY ITS A SHAME THE MUSIC CAME FROM ME I'm the reason that the industry is exposing the real ghostwriter witch is me an I'm a real person check me out
@@Mylife3655 that’s hip hop, anybody can rap when given written lyrics on a paper, what makes a rapper a rapper is if they write. I can rap someone else’s lyrics very well so that makes me a rapper?
@@Omowalemayasa No but her and her brother Milk Dee co wrote songs together. He and others vouched that she's a true lyricist and writes her own raps. Her pen is solidified.
Gilbert Knodel Lol that’s what I’m saying. I need people to understand u can like an artist but don’t take it personal it ain’t got shit to do with u when they doing something.
Gilbert Knodel and how do you know he does??? A ghostwriter is someone who writes the ENTIRE SONG and is NOT CREDITED FOR IT clearly the songs that had Quentin miller that help with a couple of bars he was CREDITED FOR IT look at the track list idiot , y’all drake haters are something else
I been involved in the body guard game for close to 20yrs and know a few people in the industry.wen I tell you Sauce is responsible for some artist biggest hits please believe me
@@whyhellotherestranger My friend has been two a mad skillz show. He says he leaves the names in that song when he performs song live...coincidentally, I think Puff is one of the people Skillz mentions when he performs it live
Puffy said a long time ago "he don't write rhymes he writes checks"...besides our favorite artist always had help with songs. Some get their hooks written by others too.
Lord knows I love me some Drake (in more ways then one), but for the sake of hip hop I can't be biased. If Drake really did use ghostwriters (especially for some of his biggest hits) then he should no longer be mentioned in lyricism discussions. Same goes for Kanye. Genius my ass! Sauce Money worded it perfectly. "Great ear/good music." That's it. We can't call these people lyricists or genuises. Those credits would have to go to the ghostwriters.
Drake is trash I’m sorry he’s not hip hop nor rap he’s pop .he can push that lane till he crokes all I care but don’t ever confuse his goofy ass culture vulture wit hip hop biggest fruad other than lil Wayne sorry ass
@@BCFHardHitterz go back to school man, your reading comprehension is awful.... UGK = 2 people hence the term Rolled up in One Person... Or Bun B and Pimp rolled into one person...
Having a ghost writer is like me letting a nigga bust in my girl and when she have the baby, I'm like "Oh he looks just like me" and I claim the shorty as mine lmaoooo
Rappers & singers should write their own music, it should be YOUR story from YOUR struggle from YOUR heart out of YOUR mouth💯..You're called an Artist because Artists paint their OWN picture, not anyone else's.
Not necessarily. Mary J.Blige My Life is written by a bunch of writers but she related to the songs and made a classic. It's all about relating to the song.
@@ninogreen1361 agreed but I only hold rappers to that. Most of our favorite R&B legends didn't write some of their best songs. They just connected w the lyricis. The Temptations "poppa was a rolling stone" is a perfect example. I agree w you but just when it comes to rappers.
69twills1 unfortunately that mentality is lost in this generation and the game back when being an emcee was a unique way to express urself now ur trying to be someone ur not these rappers lame these days mostly
GardenState Savage I know it’s been around I just feel like it’s stupid if you call yourself a rapper/emcee even if it’s wack at least it’s your own words on how you feel
@MONK 30 And that is why E 40 had him trapped in Northern Califoolya. Could have had him murdered if he wanted to, but E 40 is humble, so he let him live.
I don't know how anyone can consider Puffy a genius. He's a very good business man but all he really did was pimp out urban street culture to corporate entities that recognized it as an emerging market and where the youth were trending towards. Puff didn't really create anything other than develop relationships. People have to really stop attaching the word genius to someone's bank account. Drake isn't a genius either. With Kanye you can at least make an argument because he's overseen entire musical production projects and has switched up his sound multiple times even though he built off of others like RZA.
I write songs myself and wouldn't feel comfortable with anybody writing for me unless I was only in it for fame and fortune. True artists do it for the love of the craft.
Lil Wayne, Nas and others have been accused of having ghost writers and Sauce is acknowledging he’s ghostwritten for others. It’s a much more common practice that y’all think, it’s not just Drake
This would've been a perfect opportunity to go more in depth about the business of ghostwriting. Example having to write in the studio during sessions to protect artist secret. Most ghostwriters get paid on front end and beat it. No backend money owed. Lastly, I'm surprised he answered the question of "what's the most he made".
Every single artist in every genre has had help. Stop knit picking and splitting hairs. Most of our favorite rappers couldn’t even put together a decent song at first until people helped them with hooks, relatable content, and formats for songs. All that shit is help
i was a Ghostwriter, once i Told a Guy, "i would probably say this.. and say it this way,..".. They Said Verbatim, My Line's..and Other people /Artist's said it was Cool for the dude to do that, because he was Young in the game,and "Everyone ask's for help".. To me that was Biting
Why Sauce seem like he dont respect "Great ear" but great ears kept him paid. Producing and recognizing talent is a gift. Being able to propel and position talent is another level.
Diddy is definitely a genius with music. But he’s not a genius in the sense of creation. He knows what works and what doesn’t. He has an ear. He’s not gonna be the guy to get on a sequencer or instrument but he can listen to a record and tell you what it’s missing or what it needs, even down to specific sounds. Even on a song as simple as “Roc Boys,” he came in and told them not to rely on the horns in the sample, but instead to add real horns. That turned it into a completely different song. Just like DJ Khaled (whole music I hate) is a genius in the sense that he knows how to put the right people with the right music.
@@SlavomirG how many of those people made hits for themselves?? Puffy was masterminding way before he started Bad Boy records. You don't have to like him or his methods but he makes hits.
Additionally big up to Sauce Money for his pen game and lyrical delivery. I wish you griped the Mic equally to your pen. Like the GZA among his crew you were the genius in yours. Not taking anything away from Jay Z who was like the RZA of the crew on the business and lyrical end.
We’re talking about business and entertainment compared to someone with lyrical skills from artwork THEY THEMSELVES have created within’. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Realist MF real spill. I went to Tennessee State in Nashville with Lito when his name was All Star before the Don Trip days and some mo shit lbda. Bro was always nice with it and he definitely done did some work for others in the game since then. #GrindHard
Drake is a genius and dope. Check the catalog. As a business man or person if you hot and you can push your reach even further so you hire more people to come up with ideas, that does not make you any less dope. All the legends from back in the day wrote and had some things written for them. Now if Drake was wack without the ghost writing, that would be a different story
They may have had a hook given to them but they always write their own verses. Drake has taken whole verses and songs there's about an 30 minutes of music by Drake that was someone else's lyrics. That's practically a whole album .
As much as I bought most of Puffy's albums back in the day... and consider Biggie Smalls one of the best to ever do it, I wouldn't say that puffy is a musical genius. True he has a great year but I think he's not even better facilitator and organizer and businessman. Nobody ever bought puppies albums and said how one of his races was the coldest day ever heard or any of his solo projects. Puffy had the ability to get great producers and great artists and great musicians and put them all together to make classics
Jadakiss wrote Puff's verses on Victory and Styles P. wrote Puff's verse on Benjamins, but Puff wasn't paying them correctly, which was one of the reasons the LOX wanted out of Bad Boy.
"Ain't no greats that's why men become myths, Embrace your gifts and let go of your ego Society is a set up Watch the way they move Got you trapped Lost in a groove". 80 DEKA | meditate
I think ghosts writers are great but they might not have that voice or it dont sound good. They write for drake or whoever who got the voice and sound good for media
Facts just like that suburban dude who was writing for Drake and Meeks crew put hands on him. I can't think of his name right now but he did a freestyle on flex and I see why he stays behind the scenes and write songs for people lol.
If making hits was so easy why isn’t everyone not doing it? It’s dumb logic. There’s a lot of people like drake and Kanye with writers who are not drake or Kanye and never will be. There’s genius somewhere 🤷🏽♂️
Diamond Donn not doing it yourself and claiming that you are great is called fake and fraudulent... would be fine if he admits it like Kanye but the Lie is the greatest picture
I feel like sauce money wants to tell me that if there’s any artist who don’t want the executive producer all in the videos dancing, then I should come to death row
it's true I've ghost written for a few niggas in the industry. Some of em just need help with structure but a lot of them couldn't spit if they had bronchitis
I disagree. I think ghostwriting matters if you consider yourself great or "the best". How can you be great if you can't produce your own material? You are as good as the machine behind you. I have no problems with (rap) artist who have writers, I simply believe you are disqualified from the greatness talk. Pac, BIG, Jay, Nas, 3k, Pun, Cole, KDot, BDC, LL, AZ, Cube, EM, etc. are great because they are original and write there own raps .
I didn't say Greatest or GOAT. I said the Greats. I think its a consensus that the people don't consider you great if you have a writer, at least as an artist.
Christopher Gailliard I agree mostly but you could give 5 artists the same lyrics but they won’t all be the same, so I don’t think having ghost writers is a problem, especially now days everyone and their grandma is a rapper 😂😂🤣
A rapper that has a writer produce their lyrics is like a singer that doesn't write their own songs. They are PERFORMERS. They can only be classified as such.
Mentioning Kanye and Drake together is stupid cause Kanye is not considered or ever tried to front like he is an emcee Drake on other hand tries to portray himself as one of the greats and that's just ridiculous
Drake is a manufactured Hip-Pop artist...... most pop artists have writers..same difference...if you like any of drakes music..you’re actually loving the ghostwriters and producers at work 💯
Sauce is 100% correct...if you need assistance writing and producing the word genius should never be uttered regarding that person.
So Michael Jackson wasn't a genius because he was at times helped by toto ,Rod temperton ,Quincy Jones and brothers Johnson?
@Swimthenatator That's correct, not so much with the production side but most definitely with the writing. Would Einstein be considered a genius if we found out he wasn't the one figuring out complex equations and theories?
@@jrbrawlersgaming1816 but you don't understand what being a genius means
It means using existing ideas & resources to create something new & original.
Read the book
How to steal like an artist
You'll understand what genius means
So no one in this life is a genius in that case because all knowledge art science is based on nature and pre existing ideas 💡
@@jrbrawlersgaming1816 Einstein Probably had help bro from other physicists chemists and researchers
Most people you praise in life understand the power of collaboration
So did Elon musk,Steve jobs and other greats we call
They used many people and other inspirations for their works
@Swimthenatator yeah okay man, I didn't know the theory of relativity was co authored, but you got it.
Shout out to the rappers that pen all their own lyrics and are actually NICE
There is none SRY ITS A SHAME THE MUSIC CAME FROM ME I'm the reason that the industry is exposing the real ghostwriter witch is me an I'm a real person check me out
@@qbeenzotherside where's your proof
Two Cents J 💪🏾
More like "2 cents quint" 😒🙄😒
Much appreciated 🙏🏾 spoken as an artist, writer and ghostwriter. 💯💪🏾
Sauce Money is your favorite ghostwriter's favorite ghostwriter.
"The one who writes your rhymes might as well hold your microphone" - MC Lyte
old school talk right there....cha cha cha
@@Mylife3655 that’s hip hop, anybody can rap when given written lyrics on a paper, what makes a rapper a rapper is if they write. I can rap someone else’s lyrics very well so that makes me a rapper?
Legendary....Ijs
How ironic...didn't Lyte have writers?
@@Omowalemayasa No but her and her brother Milk Dee co wrote songs together. He and others vouched that she's a true lyricist and writes her own raps. Her pen is solidified.
Respect to Sauce Money for being a real stand-up dude. Most people would try to spill the beans on who they wrote for. Quiet as kept
Exactly which removes the point of a “Ghost-Writer”
SAUCE MONEY NEEDS TO BE A REGULAR ON THE SHOW
Agree!
No....
@@fboyd109 yes
Pharoe Monch another great ghostwriter in the game
Yes
The Future he ghostwrote 4 Diddy is a classic
OvO sweatshop of Ghostwriters been holding Drake down.
HE DOESNT HAVE A FUCKING GHOSTWRITER
Justin Richardson how do you know he doesn’t have one?
Gilbert Knodel Lol that’s what I’m saying. I need people to understand u can like an artist but don’t take it personal it ain’t got shit to do with u when they doing something.
Gilbert Knodel and how do you know he does??? A ghostwriter is someone who writes the ENTIRE SONG and is NOT CREDITED FOR IT clearly the songs that had Quentin miller that help with a couple of bars he was CREDITED FOR IT look at the track list idiot , y’all drake haters are something else
Justin Richardson who writes just a couple of bars 😂😂😂😂?
Denial 🤦🏾♂️
Having ghostwriters is like an athlete using performance enhancement drugs
Stop it..😁
I‘m sure your fav artists has ghostwriters too & you don’t say anything until Drake. It get’s annoying tbh
I been involved in the body guard game for close to 20yrs and know a few people in the industry.wen I tell you Sauce is responsible for some artist biggest hits please believe me
Vlad doesn’t understand. His ignorance of the culture is getting worse. Drake and Kayne, aren’t even close to guys like Rakim or Bigg.
Mad skillz is another ghost writer in the game that wrote for alot of ppl. Check out his song ghostwriter
Your favorite rappers' songs? I put the flames in it
Y'all keep fucking around, I'mma put this back out with your names in it
The wrap up song guy????? He cool
Skillz been dope. I still got that nigga first tape.
@Khairi Khan
Y'all right up the street from us NC...I got some cousins in Newport news.
@@whyhellotherestranger My friend has been two a mad skillz show. He says he leaves the names in that song when he performs song live...coincidentally, I think Puff is one of the people Skillz mentions when he performs it live
“Murdered the whole month of April just to take May off”
I’m waiting for “nas has whack beats” debate any day now
sharky H he does tho
STREET SPORTS NETWORK Illmatic and It was written bests were fire
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😂I fuckin hate when he goes there
@@franknicebx3636 he sucked me in with that one.
Sauce has a point. How can u be a genius when its sombody elses idea? Sombody elses creation?
Maybe a genius at selling it but thats about it
That’s what’s most important. Your last sentence. It’s a business...
Puffy said a long time ago "he don't write rhymes he writes checks"...besides our favorite artist always had help with songs. Some get their hooks written by others too.
Drake is not a genius writer is a genius manipulator and a fake .
Does good music thou 🥴
He dont even do good music, Drake is Top 3 Hip-Hop frauds of all time
Y’all niggas really hate drake 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cryogenix Old Skool nah man I don’t think he writes all his shit either but that boy got some hits man can’t even front on it
pedro gates he does y’all drake haters are something else
@@pedrogates3189 Vanilla Ice got hits also and he's a top 3 Hip-Hop fraud just like Drake
One of the key pillars of Hip Hop music, especially so in the early days, was using other artists' material and ideas...they called it "sampling"
"My pen was keeping me afloat"...Thats deep
Lord knows I love me some Drake (in more ways then one), but for the sake of hip hop I can't be biased. If Drake really did use ghostwriters (especially for some of his biggest hits) then he should no longer be mentioned in lyricism discussions. Same goes for Kanye. Genius my ass!
Sauce Money worded it perfectly. "Great ear/good music." That's it. We can't call these people lyricists or genuises. Those credits would have to go to the ghostwriters.
Drake is trash I’m sorry he’s not hip hop nor rap he’s pop .he can push that lane till he crokes all I care but don’t ever confuse his goofy ass culture vulture wit hip hop biggest fruad other than lil Wayne sorry ass
If you know hip-hop, you know Sauce Money has wrote for A Lot of your favorite rappers!!
Look like UGK in one person mixed with a lil suge.
cosmic Mitch u do realize that UGK is two separate people right?
😂😂😂😂😂. Petty Murphy.
BCFHardHitterz ugk in one person means that there is more than one..
@@BCFHardHitterz go back to school man, your reading comprehension is awful.... UGK = 2 people hence the term Rolled up in One Person... Or Bun B and Pimp rolled into one person...
@@BCFHardHitterz you are dumb as fuck.
Yo Vigilant Los Angeles Detective TV (VLADTV) there's a BIG/ONLY reason it's called GHOSTwriting! Ghost means you DON'T KNOW who wrote the song.
His verse on “ Bring it on “ was pure 🔥🔥
What a tank of a man. Absolute unit.
Nigga definitely not starving
If drake was such a genius, how did puffy find a way to slap him?
🤔
Fuck that gotta do with anything
Let's remember why he slapped him, Drake was supposed to GHOST WRITE for him on the 0-100 beat but then kept it for himself.
How did you find a way to post that is the ?
😂😂 just dumb lol
Didn't know bruh wrote "Pain" off of Puffy's first album. That's a dope track.
Dope topic
Having a ghost writer is like me letting a nigga bust in my girl and when she have the baby, I'm like "Oh he looks just like me" and I claim the shorty as mine lmaoooo
Rappers & singers should write their own music, it should be YOUR story from YOUR struggle from YOUR heart out of YOUR mouth💯..You're called an Artist because Artists paint their OWN picture, not anyone else's.
Nino Green black music was created using cover songs. Doing somebody's song better than them would make you famous
Not necessarily. Mary J.Blige My Life is written by a bunch of writers but she related to the songs and made a classic. It's all about relating to the song.
@@erroltorrington9186 yeah I feel ya but it's more REAL coming from the artist struggle
@@ninogreen1361 agreed but I only hold rappers to that. Most of our favorite R&B legends didn't write some of their best songs. They just connected w the lyricis. The Temptations "poppa was a rolling stone" is a perfect example. I agree w you but just when it comes to rappers.
Sad but every artist has a ghostwriter if they are in the entertainment bissness I am proof
I remember Sauce! Love this guy! Super talented!
Tamara Thomas like He said He The Ace of the staff!
I will never understand using ghost writers in rap music what’s the point if u gonna let someone else write your flows
yeah
69twills1 unfortunately that mentality is lost in this generation and the game back when being an emcee was a unique way to express urself now ur trying to be someone ur not these rappers lame these days mostly
@@raghurajaram8817 rappers delight featured ghostwrwiting.... its always been around
GardenState Savage I know it’s been around I just feel like it’s stupid if you call yourself a rapper/emcee even if it’s wack at least it’s your own words on how you feel
Hit records!! When companies put millions into artists,there's pressure to produce. Kanye did it best by collaborating and crediting writers.
This is always an interesting conversation
Jay Z wrote for Dr.Dre. Biggie wrote for Lil Cease. RhymeFest wrote for Kanye also Cy High
Glad was fishing to see if Sauce knew if Jay-Z had used a ghostwriter...
Sauce Money also worked with E-40 as well.
Not saying it could not be possible, but I do not see that type of slang coming from Sauce Money. That slang is unique to E 40.
@MONK 30 And that is why E 40 had him trapped in Northern Califoolya. Could have had him murdered if he wanted to, but E 40 is humble, so he let him live.
@MONK 30 Fair enough. His style may not be for everybody.
He wrote for, Jay Z, as well.
He did an interview with Ebony or Jet and said it in that interview.
POST A LINK OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!
He's so spot on...Writer's have real depth
I don't know how anyone can consider Puffy a genius. He's a very good business man but all he really did was pimp out urban street culture to corporate entities that recognized it as an emerging market and where the youth were trending towards. Puff didn't really create anything other than develop relationships. People have to really stop attaching the word genius to someone's bank account. Drake isn't a genius either. With Kanye you can at least make an argument because he's overseen entire musical production projects and has switched up his sound multiple times even though he built off of others like RZA.
I write songs myself and wouldn't feel comfortable with anybody writing for me unless I was only in it for fame and fortune. True artists do it for the love of the craft.
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N. Tesla level genius is far from the Thomas Edison level of genius. - Sauce Money
KOJO ROLEX he said that in the vlad interview or somewhere else?
Vlad you are killing it this year.. Salute!
Lil Wayne, Nas and others have been accused of having ghost writers and Sauce is acknowledging he’s ghostwritten for others. It’s a much more common practice that y’all think, it’s not just Drake
Drake did a ton of ghostwriting for Lil Wayne
Sauce is the real Ghostwriter...he don’t leave a trace for the public to see his name on a product lol he gets holographic paper lol
With invisible ink.
Grum Pee 🤣🤣🤣 haha good one lol
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I would love to see him and Jay do a album
One hell of a clickbait, he didn’t single out drake & say that 😂 well played vlad
LOL
His ghost title creators are Geniuses... I really do respect their Title Game...
He didn't single him out but he definitely said he doesn't consider him one of the greats "he has a great ear.....".
@Jude Goblin is your whole profile dedicated to jew hating brah?
Boy that sounds like denial
This would've been a perfect opportunity to go more in depth about the business of ghostwriting. Example having to write in the studio during sessions to protect artist secret. Most ghostwriters get paid on front end and beat it. No backend money owed.
Lastly, I'm surprised he answered the question of "what's the most he made".
Every single artist in every genre has had help. Stop knit picking and splitting hairs. Most of our favorite rappers couldn’t even put together a decent song at first until people helped them with hooks, relatable content, and formats for songs. All that shit is help
Time to separate the sheep from the goats I have no faith in your writers I don't believe in ghosts.
Dam please remind where that line came from ?
@@rachaad
Eminem - Fall
Such a hard line
I got a couple of mansions, still I don't have any manors/ manners. You got a couple of ghostwriters but to these kids it don't actually matter.
Vlad been trying to get him to snitch about every subject in every interview 😂
Puffy has a great ear? When was the last time bad boy records had a hit? Puffy took credit for other people's work. It's not even debatable.
Nobody thinks of Puffy as a genius Vlad, especially a rap genius LOL
i was a Ghostwriter, once i Told a Guy, "i would probably say this.. and say it this way,..".. They Said Verbatim, My Line's..and Other people /Artist's said it was Cool for the dude to do that, because he was Young in the game,and "Everyone ask's for help".. To me that was Biting
Sauce money spoken like a real artist can't no one rap or sing my life that I live I got tell my own story my way and in my own words
That's crazy priority has a history of doing that to artist they did that crap to Ice Cube to.... SMH 🤔
had jay z too
Uptown Philly ras kass too
Mark Bell they did Ras dirty
Middle finger u by sauce is 1 of my favorite albums ever
Why Sauce seem like he dont respect "Great ear" but great ears kept him paid. Producing and recognizing talent is a gift. Being able to propel and position talent is another level.
Sauce money wrote for JAY-Z too, that's one of the people he doesn't wanna say
Proof?
@@yvandacut1 Reasonable Doubt lol
Puff has NEVER been thought of as a musical genius EVER! What his strength is and was is marketing artist that's IT, Point Blank Period
lol, genius nah.....businessman yep.
Diddy is definitely a genius with music. But he’s not a genius in the sense of creation. He knows what works and what doesn’t. He has an ear. He’s not gonna be the guy to get on a sequencer or instrument but he can listen to a record and tell you what it’s missing or what it needs, even down to specific sounds.
Even on a song as simple as “Roc Boys,” he came in and told them not to rely on the horns in the sample, but instead to add real horns. That turned it into a completely different song.
Just like DJ Khaled (whole music I hate) is a genius in the sense that he knows how to put the right people with the right music.
Give puff his credit..that man knows how to make a hit.period!!
@@erroltorrington9186 all he knows is how to pay people to make a hit song for him. which he himself is totally unable to.
@@SlavomirG how many of those people made hits for themselves??
Puffy was masterminding way before he started Bad Boy records. You don't have to like him or his methods but he makes hits.
Additionally big up to Sauce Money for his pen game and lyrical delivery. I wish you griped the Mic equally to your pen. Like the GZA among his crew you were the genius in yours. Not taking anything away from Jay Z who was like the RZA of the crew on the business and lyrical end.
I'd write for Diddy instead of dropping albums
You are NOT a proper MC if you use a ghostwriter. 100%.
"thought ya'll was chinese the way ya Duck Sauce"
Tim Barraco that's dope sauce nice with his He can hold his own with sone of the best Jay Dmx Lox Bleek Beans etc...
What did Puff once spit..... I don't write rhymes I write checks 😂
We’re talking about business and entertainment compared to someone with lyrical skills from artwork THEY THEMSELVES have created within’. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Starlito been ghost writing for years too Vlad. Get em on here🗣
Who
Look em Up.
Realist MF real spill. I went to Tennessee State in Nashville with Lito when his name was All Star before the Don Trip days and some mo shit lbda. Bro was always nice with it and he definitely done did some work for others in the game since then. #GrindHard
Drake is a genius and dope. Check the catalog. As a business man or person if you hot and you can push your reach even further so you hire more people to come up with ideas, that does not make you any less dope. All the legends from back in the day wrote and had some things written for them. Now if Drake was wack without the ghost writing, that would be a different story
They may have had a hook given to them but they always write their own verses. Drake has taken whole verses and songs there's about an 30 minutes of music by Drake that was someone else's lyrics. That's practically a whole album .
As much as I bought most of Puffy's albums back in the day... and consider Biggie Smalls one of the best to ever do it, I wouldn't say that puffy is a musical genius. True he has a great year but I think he's not even better facilitator and organizer and businessman. Nobody ever bought puppies albums and said how one of his races was the coldest day ever heard or any of his solo projects. Puffy had the ability to get great producers and great artists and great musicians and put them all together to make classics
N dats genius,,,,bse he knew exactly how to make all this work,,,
Jadakiss wrote Puff's verses on Victory and Styles P. wrote Puff's verse on Benjamins, but Puff wasn't paying them correctly, which was one of the reasons the LOX wanted out of Bad Boy.
Sauce money the man from my projects.
"Ain't no greats that's why men become myths,
Embrace your gifts and let go of your ego
Society is a set up
Watch the way they move
Got you trapped
Lost in a groove".
80 DEKA | meditate
peace; Every mainstream rapper had and have a ghostwriter.
Kendrick, j Cole
@@matgamer5916 Yeah them 2
Even Pharoahe Monch Wrote For Puffy On "The Future" From "Press Play" Album With The Song Being Produced By HAVOC Of Mobb Deep....R.I.Prodigy....
One out of every 50 vlad interviews is stimulating and intriguing. This is one of them.
I think ghosts writers are great but they might not have that voice or it dont sound good. They write for drake or whoever who got the voice and sound good for media
Facts just like that suburban dude who was writing for Drake and Meeks crew put hands on him. I can't think of his name right now but he did a freestyle on flex and I see why he stays behind the scenes and write songs for people lol.
@@draines9237 Q Miller
I love love love love love love love love this guy.
If making hits was so easy why isn’t everyone not doing it? It’s dumb logic. There’s a lot of people like drake and Kanye with writers who are not drake or Kanye and never will be. There’s genius somewhere 🤷🏽♂️
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I agree with Sauce Money 100%
People need to Respect Ghostwriting in Hip Hop as An Art.Leave it at that.
Diamond Donn not doing it yourself and claiming that you are great is called fake and fraudulent... would be fine if he admits it like Kanye but the Lie is the greatest picture
I feel like sauce money wants to tell me that if there’s any artist who don’t want the executive producer all in the videos dancing, then I should come to death row
Puff Daddy is not a genius for his rapping ability, he’s a genius as a music executive.
it's true I've ghost written for a few niggas in the industry. Some of em just need help with structure but a lot of them couldn't spit if they had bronchitis
Vlad just tried to find out if Jay had a ghostwriter. LMAO
Would have been a big scoop
TK Kirkland turned down an offer to ghostwrite for God. God didn't have enough money for his services.
Everett Walker i did a yoohoo spit take just now
U fckin bastard
Lmao
I wonder if TK watch the comments LOL
I heard cardan wrote for biggie on that 112 song “Only You” is that true?
Wtf???
Frank White facts look it up
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have that same energy for all artist.
I know ghost writer and ghost beatmakers who you will never guess is one.
Would love to hear a Sauce Money record in 2020
Ghost writing only matters if song is a personal story imo
I disagree. I think ghostwriting matters if you consider yourself great or "the best". How can you be great if you can't produce your own material? You are as good as the machine behind you. I have no problems with (rap) artist who have writers, I simply believe you are disqualified from the greatness talk. Pac, BIG, Jay, Nas, 3k, Pun, Cole, KDot, BDC, LL, AZ, Cube, EM, etc. are great because they are original and write there own raps .
Christopher Gailliard 2pac is without a doubt the goat! The people decide who is great not the artist 👍🏼
I didn't say Greatest or GOAT. I said the Greats. I think its a consensus that the people don't consider you great if you have a writer, at least as an artist.
Christopher Gailliard I agree mostly but you could give 5 artists the same lyrics but they won’t all be the same, so I don’t think having ghost writers is a problem, especially now days everyone and their grandma is a rapper 😂😂🤣
ካኪሰው ማዕከላዊ I agree g, IMO no one should claim they are the best, unless 2pac somehow rises from the dead he can 💯😂
If having a great 👂 makes you a genius!
And he was actually talking about Kanye Drake never refer to himself as a "Genius"
A rapper that has a writer produce their lyrics is like a singer that doesn't write their own songs. They are PERFORMERS. They can only be classified as such.
The elephant in the room is gonna start smelling in a minute😂😂😂
Mentioning Kanye and Drake together is stupid cause Kanye is not considered or ever tried to front like he is an emcee Drake on other hand tries to portray himself as one of the greats and that's just ridiculous
Ghostwriting is a perfect gig for a rapper with the pen game who's not on,it's better to to do it behind the scenes
I'm not a biter' imma writer for myself and others' I say a BIG VERSE' I'm only bigging up my brother💯
I overstand getting ideas n opinion on a song or songs, but someone writing for you a NO NO
Drake is a manufactured Hip-Pop artist...... most pop artists have writers..same difference...if you like any of drakes music..you’re actually loving the ghostwriters and producers at work 💯
THE IDEA OF DRAKE