@@ShelbyR19 That is a question that no one really knows due to so many variables . 25 Production does not start until middle of January. As of last week there were less than 800 retail orders in the system. I am hoping to see it between March-April but would not be surprised if it is longer.
I was told it maybe 3 months. Like you said maybe longer. I’m looking at the 2025 Badlands Sasquatch package myself. I’m probably gonna wait till March or April. Trying to save some extra cash. Can’t wait to see yours when you get it
One small detail of note: The standard Sasquatch package for 2025 has rugged-terrain tires rather than the Wrangler Territory MT tires currently included. Ford has continuously referred to the Territory MTs as mud-terrain, even though Goodyear calls them all-terrain and that MT stands for "Maximum Traction." Mud terrain tires usually have large treads with big spacing between treads. I hope the rugged-terrain tires are severe snow rated and are stamped with 3PMSF that all legal winter tires have. A couple nights ago I got home from a trip and found I had about a 2' snow bank plowed up into the end of my driveway and about 1' of snow in the driveway. It was dense, snow cone-like snow. I've never owned another vehicle that could have made it through that snow. I shifted my Bronco into neutral and selected "Rock Crawl" GOAT mode. I was able to drive through the dense snow bank and up my long gravel driveway into my detached garage. I have a 4D Badlands with 33" BFG KO2s, which are severe snow rated and have 3PMSF stamps.
The Badlands was the trim I was looking at (2.3 engine with manual transmission). I ended up getting a Gladiator Rubicon because I was coming from a Silverado and loved the practicality of the bed. Still, the Badlands is still on my mind. Thank you Dave.
Very helpful video. I'm considering the 2025 Badlands configured like this one. But I'm also considering a Wrangler Rubicon, Gladiator Rubicon, and 4Runner Trailhunter. All are in the same price range of $66k to $70k. Question...I have read that the 2024 Wildtrack had better steering rack and stronger tie rods than the Badlands. I wonder if that has changed, now that the Wildtrack is no longer available in 2025?
The Bandlands has the option for the upgraded steering rack for 25 and slightly better tie rods. I would drive each you have listed. The Bronco will drive like a modern truck and the Gladiator / Wrangler is more old school. Jeep has some tempting offers on 24 Gladiator’s right now too
We have owed two and not noticed a huge amount of noise. A soft top and hard top. I will say the hard top is quieter v soft top but nothing crazy about either
Supposedly, the painted hard tops are more quiet than the MIC hardtops, because they are made of fiberglass instead of the weird, lightweight composite with the cardboard core of the MIC top. Be sure to order it with the sound deadening liner. If you get the LUX package you also get a sound deadening liner under the hood to limit engine noise. Ford also says that they have reduced wind noise from the windshields in the 2025 Bronco.
I don't get the SAS pkge. I know I am not in the majority, but I grew up with the idea of narrow tires being able to cut thru the snow etc. Anyhow, my wife and I test drove both non SAS and and SAS Badlands. We both found the SAS to ride rougher and feel too wide for what we'd like to take on the trails here in the PNW. I dunno, just an opinion... We have a '25 on order and are looking forward to the updated gauge display....and the 33" narrower tires 😉🙂
No joke, I recently walked down the parking lot line up and saw to my left, 8 of 11 cars in the row were all a version of white. The others were black and grey. I looked to my right and saw a mishmash of white, grey and black with a couple reds. I parked my ranger raptor in the furthest spot I could find and as I approached it, I appreciated shelter green that much more on my truck. Literally 9/10 people i talk with at work or in the wild that comment on the truck say how much they like the color. From a distance at night it looks black/dark grey until you get close. When it's overcast it looks dark green, then the sun comes out and it POPS. Shelter green has a ton of character and I love it and the 5 month build period is worth it to get the color you want. Thats my experience, your mileage may vary.
We have a 2024 Eruption green Bronco Outer Banks with the Lux Package, and I will say our 2018 Cajun red tintcoat (which looks like the Bronco red) Colorado ZR2 with Bose 6 speaker hits harder than the B&O 10 speaker with sub. But I am curious where they threw 2 extra speakers in in the 2025 Bronco and curious if those 2 speakers improve the sound.
That’s a tough question.. We had the Badlands and really enjoyed the Bronco. Has ever feature you would want but that being said if you want the biggest and best the Raptor is hard to beat. The price is the only issue. We bought one on a 8k discount and now I’m seeing 15k off on 24s. The badlands should be mid 50k and Raptor 69-75k Both are great but I would lean to the Badlands on 33s for daily life
My 23 BadSquatch was 70k and I still smile every time I look at it. Was it overpriced for what it is? Yes. Still worth every penny TO ME after +5k in additional mods and 15k miles? Also yes. Don't mind me, though, I'll just be over in the mountains playing with my big toy Bronco some more...
2025 sucks. They took away all the two doors and 6 cyl's. The only 2 door with a 6 is the Stroppe. And it's too expensive and the stripes aren't my style. Maybe if they chose different color stripe options.
Right. I got a 2024 Big Bend 2-door manual, the only option being Velicity Blue last month. My dealer had to go out of state to procure one. Turns out 2-door manuals are becoming unicorns. I know the "base" is supposed to be back for 2025, but the dealer suggested I should not hold my breath...
I’ve only ever built the 2.3 manual but I think all Badlands have the 4.7 ratio and front / rear lockers. I think the Marsh Gray Badlands with a manual transmission is gonna be an awesome rig. I hope It doesn’t come with the wide fenders and useless tires by ordering the HOSS 3.0? And is that an option with the manual I wonder?
Dave, you get the front and rear lockers with or without the Sasquatch package on the Badlands and the Bilstein's are nearly the same (unless you additionally upgrade further to the Fox suspension). It's $3k wasted.
Yep.. I think for a new buyer to Bronco it’s a great set up. In my opinion do the Sasquatch but I can see where you could save some money and lift it after
@AllTerrainNation it's only 1/2" of lift over the standard Badlands, and 35's fit without any additional lift. Like you said, the Goodyear's are crap anyway. The standard Badlands suspension also has more articulation than the Sasquatch package suspension. Finally, We know that those Bilstein's are getting replaced anyway. The only thing that you get of value on the Sasquatch package in the Badlands is the 4.7 gears (5% more gear than the 4.46), and that's not really enough to matter.
I ordered a 2-door, Badlands with painted roof in Ruby Red. As of right now I probably wont take delivery, however its a good option to have in the spring when I buy my 2021 Big Bend from my lease.
I have the best Bronco. I have a 2 door Big Bend with a V6 and a rear locker. Such a thing doesn't exist anymore. Who wants a truck with a 4 cyl? Who wants a 4 door suv? It's ridiculous!
@@jeffmyers4280 um, there is nothing wrong with not taking delivery of a vehicle that's been ordered. Also, you can take that up with the many people who ordered a 2021 (and other years) and realized it wasn't in their best financial interest at that time. Also, also, once I see the 2025 in person, its going to be hard to resist. Lastly, if I decide not to take delivery due to whatever reason, someone here in the desert will be very happy with that Badlands build.
The funny thing is you can get a Landrover Defender V8 for the same price or a little less and it has more horsepower, more speed, more ground clearance, a better electronic air hydraulic system, and more quality luxury in the interior and exterior.
I think more people that have a 21 - 24 are going to keep them due to the price. Also limited on the 2 door with the 2.7 going away . I’m keeping mine.
They should have carried over the glacier grey metallic to the bronco line instead of desert. Adaptive cruise is a must and I haven't had a vehicle without 360 cameras in years so I am glade they are packaged together. I do think Adaptive cruise should be standard these days. Fox 3.1 ride so much softer than the 2.5. Ranger raptor vs bronco or F-150 raptor. The ranger is stiffer. Hopefully the is as it is will change when the EV mandate is gone. The money lost on EV vehicles is past on the ICE vehicles
A fool and their money are soon parted. The over charging by the manufacturer is incredible. That price is more than my house payment and i will get a high return on it. Not lose all value over time on this vehicle. Bought mine used for a LOT less.
@jeffpayne2675 if I am spending $70,000 I want to feel like what I am buying is worth $70,000. I don't feel that way with a bronco not even close. They are way overpriced because Ford is using their gas burners to make up their 2 billion dollars loss in their EV's.
I missed it, did you say this Broncos is gold plated or platinum? Automakers are out of touch. Soon customers will be getting a mortgage for purchasing a new car. LOL
Sas is honestly pretty pointless on the badlands it really only gives you wheels and tires as the badlands comes with the lockers, shocks and upgraded rack standard.
One thing your mistaken on is the B&O sound system...ITS TOTAL CRAP !! paper and foam and real small magnets ! Yank that crap now. I suggest AUDISON DSP and a decent amp , run kicker KS series for your dash kick panel and rears.
@@brianfank4634 we look at what the factory ships out. Yes you could really make this thing bounce but facts are this is much better than what we had in 21 with the mid package.
The problem with this video is "oh well, you gotta pay to play". BS!! 70K for cheap plastic that looks good but built like a Ford. I really wanted one but 70K is friggin ridiculous for what it is. Ask Jeep how well screwing their customers on low quality/high price is going.
I have the 24 Wildtrak and love everything about it! Mine is grey because it matches the top.
Thanks!
I appreciate it.
Ordered my 25 Badlands Sas, Marsh Gray, thankfully my daughter is a service writer at dealership and D Plan helps a lot
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In a world of $40k Miatas in 2025, the is not too bad. All new vehicles worth having are going to be expensive.
Love my 24 Wildtrak…. It’s a beast!!!
I really want the 2025 badlands bronco with everything it offers
Ordered a 25 two weeks ago. 2 Door, SAS, HOSS 3.0, manual.
How long is the wait when you order one
@@ShelbyR19 That is a question that no one really knows due to so many variables . 25 Production does not start until middle of January. As of last week there were less than 800 retail orders in the system. I am hoping to see it between March-April but would not be surprised if it is longer.
I was told it maybe 3 months. Like you said maybe longer. I’m looking at the 2025 Badlands Sasquatch package myself. I’m probably gonna wait till March or April. Trying to save some extra cash. Can’t wait to see yours when you get it
No race red or 2.7 engine available for the two door Badlands. Guess I will be keeping my 23 Badlands for awhile. Good info. Thanks.
One small detail of note: The standard Sasquatch package for 2025 has rugged-terrain tires rather than the Wrangler Territory MT tires currently included. Ford has continuously referred to the Territory MTs as mud-terrain, even though Goodyear calls them all-terrain and that MT stands for "Maximum Traction." Mud terrain tires usually have large treads with big spacing between treads. I hope the rugged-terrain tires are severe snow rated and are stamped with 3PMSF that all legal winter tires have. A couple nights ago I got home from a trip and found I had about a 2' snow bank plowed up into the end of my driveway and about 1' of snow in the driveway. It was dense, snow cone-like snow. I've never owned another vehicle that could have made it through that snow. I shifted my Bronco into neutral and selected "Rock Crawl" GOAT mode. I was able to drive through the dense snow bank and up my long gravel driveway into my detached garage. I have a 4D Badlands with 33" BFG KO2s, which are severe snow rated and have 3PMSF stamps.
The Badlands was the trim I was looking at (2.3 engine with manual transmission). I ended up getting a Gladiator Rubicon because I was coming from a Silverado and loved the practicality of the bed. Still, the Badlands is still on my mind. Thank you Dave.
The Gladiator is a fun truck We owned one for 2 years and enjoyed it. Congrats on the new ride.
Very helpful video. I'm considering the 2025 Badlands configured like this one. But I'm also considering a Wrangler Rubicon, Gladiator Rubicon, and 4Runner Trailhunter. All are in the same price range of $66k to $70k.
Question...I have read that the 2024 Wildtrack had better steering rack and stronger tie rods than the Badlands.
I wonder if that has changed, now that the Wildtrack is no longer available in 2025?
The Bandlands has the option for the upgraded steering rack for 25 and slightly better tie rods. I would drive each you have listed. The Bronco will drive like a modern truck and the Gladiator / Wrangler is more old school. Jeep has some tempting offers on 24 Gladiator’s right now too
How does the 2025 version deals with the wind noise in the cabin on the highway? That’s the only thing that drives me off from getting one.
We have owed two and not noticed a huge amount of noise. A soft top and hard top. I will say the hard top is quieter v soft top but nothing crazy about either
Supposedly, the painted hard tops are more quiet than the MIC hardtops, because they are made of fiberglass instead of the weird, lightweight composite with the cardboard core of the MIC top. Be sure to order it with the sound deadening liner. If you get the LUX package you also get a sound deadening liner under the hood to limit engine noise. Ford also says that they have reduced wind noise from the windshields in the 2025 Bronco.
Wonder if it’s the same shade of the Desert Sand as what was sprayed on the Everglades I have.
I believe so
Great video - appreciate the step by step
Appreciate the feedback!
I don't get the SAS pkge. I know I am not in the majority, but I grew up with the idea of narrow tires being able to cut thru the snow etc. Anyhow, my wife and I test drove both non SAS and and SAS Badlands. We both found the SAS to ride rougher and feel too wide for what we'd like to take on the trails here in the PNW. I dunno, just an opinion... We have a '25 on order and are looking forward to the updated gauge display....and the 33" narrower tires 😉🙂
Thanks for the build. Helps me alot.
No problem! Thank you for watching
No joke, I recently walked down the parking lot line up and saw to my left, 8 of 11 cars in the row were all a version of white. The others were black and grey. I looked to my right and saw a mishmash of white, grey and black with a couple reds. I parked my ranger raptor in the furthest spot I could find and as I approached it, I appreciated shelter green that much more on my truck. Literally 9/10 people i talk with at work or in the wild that comment on the truck say how much they like the color. From a distance at night it looks black/dark grey until you get close. When it's overcast it looks dark green, then the sun comes out and it POPS. Shelter green has a ton of character and I love it and the 5 month build period is worth it to get the color you want. Thats my experience, your mileage may vary.
I have a '22 OBX and love it, would like to upgrade, but Bronco has gotten way to expensive. Will be moving on to a Ranger.
@jeffreybabb277 nice. Do you own or lease?
@bryy2053 Own, but when warranty is done, I purchase with all new 36 month warranty.
We have a 2024 Eruption green Bronco Outer Banks with the Lux Package, and I will say our 2018 Cajun red tintcoat (which looks like the Bronco red) Colorado ZR2 with Bose 6 speaker hits harder than the B&O 10 speaker with sub. But I am curious where they threw 2 extra speakers in in the 2025 Bronco and curious if those 2 speakers improve the sound.
Should i get the 2025 raptor or badlands (with or without Sasquatch) - I’m a mostly a daily driver - i love cars
That’s a tough question.. We had the Badlands and really enjoyed the Bronco. Has ever feature you would want but that being said if you want the biggest and best the Raptor is hard to beat. The price is the only issue. We bought one on a 8k discount and now I’m seeing 15k off on 24s.
The badlands should be mid 50k and Raptor 69-75k
Both are great but I would lean to the Badlands on 33s for daily life
Raptor or Badlands ? I’m a daily driver
70k is wild! Fuck, that.
Toyota has a nice Corolla Cross that might fit your budget........I think it has AWD.
Getting to close to an Ineos base
My 23 BadSquatch was 70k and I still smile every time I look at it. Was it overpriced for what it is? Yes. Still worth every penny TO ME after +5k in additional mods and 15k miles? Also yes. Don't mind me, though, I'll just be over in the mountains playing with my big toy Bronco some more...
2025 sucks. They took away all the two doors and 6 cyl's. The only 2 door with a 6 is the Stroppe. And it's too expensive and the stripes aren't my style. Maybe if they chose different color stripe options.
Right. I got a 2024 Big Bend 2-door manual, the only option being Velicity Blue last month. My dealer had to go out of state to procure one. Turns out 2-door manuals are becoming unicorns. I know the "base" is supposed to be back for 2025, but the dealer suggested I should not hold my breath...
Wouldn't mind a badlands with hoss 3.0 but for 58k im leaning more towards the ranger raptor.
I’ve only ever built the 2.3 manual but I think all Badlands have the 4.7 ratio and front / rear lockers. I think the Marsh Gray Badlands with a manual transmission is gonna be an awesome rig. I hope It doesn’t come with the wide fenders and useless tires by ordering the HOSS 3.0? And is that an option with the manual I wonder?
The wide fenders are for Sasquatch
Dave, you get the front and rear lockers with or without the Sasquatch package on the Badlands and the Bilstein's are nearly the same (unless you additionally upgrade further to the Fox suspension). It's $3k wasted.
Yep.. I think for a new buyer to Bronco it’s a great set up. In my opinion do the Sasquatch but I can see where you could save some money and lift it after
@AllTerrainNation it's only 1/2" of lift over the standard Badlands, and 35's fit without any additional lift. Like you said, the Goodyear's are crap anyway. The standard Badlands suspension also has more articulation than the Sasquatch package suspension. Finally, We know that those Bilstein's are getting replaced anyway. The only thing that you get of value on the Sasquatch package in the Badlands is the 4.7 gears (5% more gear than the 4.46), and that's not really enough to matter.
@@mpeugeotmy thoughts exactly
I ordered a 2-door, Badlands with painted roof in Ruby Red. As of right now I probably wont take delivery, however its a good option to have in the spring when I buy my 2021 Big Bend from my lease.
I have the best Bronco. I have a 2 door Big Bend with a V6 and a rear locker. Such a thing doesn't exist anymore. Who wants a truck with a 4 cyl? Who wants a 4 door suv? It's ridiculous!
@@scottmarflake9613 I so want the V6. I might consider picking up a '24 with a V6 vs the '25. What year is yours?
wow really so you ordered one you don't intend to buy and hold up others orders that really want a new one that's Intelligent
@@jeffmyers4280 um, there is nothing wrong with not taking delivery of a vehicle that's been ordered. Also, you can take that up with the many people who ordered a 2021 (and other years) and realized it wasn't in their best financial interest at that time. Also, also, once I see the 2025 in person, its going to be hard to resist. Lastly, if I decide not to take delivery due to whatever reason, someone here in the desert will be very happy with that Badlands build.
The tune is worth every penny
💯
The funny thing is you can get a Landrover Defender V8 for the same price or a little less and it has more horsepower, more speed, more ground clearance, a better electronic air hydraulic system, and more quality luxury in the interior and exterior.
BAP should make the grille black as well.
I think more people that have a 21 - 24 are going to keep them due to the price. Also limited on the 2 door with the 2.7 going away . I’m keeping mine.
Team two door!
They should have carried over the glacier grey metallic to the bronco line instead of desert. Adaptive cruise is a must and I haven't had a vehicle without 360 cameras in years so I am glade they are packaged together. I do think Adaptive cruise should be standard these days.
Fox 3.1 ride so much softer than the 2.5. Ranger raptor vs bronco or F-150 raptor. The ranger is stiffer.
Hopefully the is as it is will change when the EV mandate is gone. The money lost on EV vehicles is past on the ICE vehicles
Painted hardtops improved the overall look.
100%
Hold on to your wildtracks and Everglades they will be worth a lot more down the road
I really can't understand why a car with all plastic interior, a small space, and poor assembly is so expensive
Powered seats only come with leather option - even if you have lux package…WHAT?!? 😂
How much is the price tag on one of those? Bronco - You can't afford it... In my best Fast & Furious voice.
Might as well get a raptorAt that price
Bad...Lands...You had a Ranger Raptor too... you've been busy..
A fool and their money are soon parted. The over charging by the manufacturer is incredible. That price is more than my house payment and i will get a high return on it. Not lose all value over time on this vehicle. Bought mine used for a LOT less.
They didn't keep Pepper Red long
Longer than rapid red
SAS option on a Badlands is a complete waste of money.
Agreed 👍🏼
$70,000 I would go with the Lexus GX 550. Better resale and better quality!
Apples and Oranges. If you want a GX550, you're not looking for a Bronco-type vehicle.
@jeffpayne2675 if I am spending $70,000 I want to feel like what I am buying is worth $70,000. I don't feel that way with a bronco not even close. They are way overpriced because Ford is using their gas burners to make up their 2 billion dollars loss in their EV's.
I missed it, did you say this Broncos is gold plated or platinum? Automakers are out of touch. Soon customers will be getting a mortgage for purchasing a new car. LOL
Sas is honestly pretty pointless on the badlands it really only gives you wheels and tires as the badlands comes with the lockers, shocks and upgraded rack standard.
Still love my ‘23 Badlands
One thing your mistaken on is the B&O sound system...ITS TOTAL CRAP !! paper and foam and real small magnets ! Yank that crap now. I suggest AUDISON DSP and a decent amp , run kicker KS series for your dash kick panel and rears.
@@brianfank4634 we look at what the factory ships out. Yes you could really make this thing bounce but facts are this is much better than what we had in 21 with the mid package.
The problem with this video is "oh well, you gotta pay to play". BS!! 70K for cheap plastic that looks good but built like a Ford. I really wanted one but 70K is friggin ridiculous for what it is. Ask Jeep how well screwing their customers on low quality/high price is going.
Price gouging
They still have the crappy tie rods though
Not with the HOSS 3.0
Overpriced garbage
I love the broncos but there comes a point where too much money is too much money, for that price ford can stick that truck up their 🫏