Thanks Josh for uploading this video. I'm very grateful that you upload this kind of video for the edification and learning for the sake of other searchers like me. May your tribe increase brother!
God bless you I am new here pastor sohail naihmat masih who have been serving the lord for last 20 years ! Am still having learning spirit to lean about Christ our lords . God use you open the door for teaching making more students.
I would think that the early church was primarily Jewish so I think James was giving a nationalistic call calling them the 12 tribes because the church was demoralized a little having to leave Jerusalem. this would have reminded them that they are Gods people still and things are working together.
Genesis 5 says Enoch walked with God and was no more for God took him. Jude called Enoch the 7th from adam a prophet. (He tells us just which Enoch for *slow people* I guess.) Yet people call God and Jude liers. Let God be true and every man a liar. You GUESS at things because you have no wisdom. Jesus told us to get away from the church because the wolves (scribes, rabbis, pharisees) were corrupting His teachings. These books were written for people who have come out of the worldly teachings and have a direct line to God through Jesus. We ask and are given. Why? Because we believe every word that comes out of the mouth of God. The apocrypha books should never have been removed from scripture. James and Paul were on the same page. They all preached the same message. You do not have ears to hear nor eyes to see. Try talking to God and getting away from your church and the world view and start a spiritual view. Stop following the world and start listening to God. WE must change not GOD. How many times has Jesus told us this. If you read these books you will see that Jesus, the apostles, and others quoted and referenced these books. Prove all things people its your salvation at stake. May God bless your understanding.
Again, the comparison that it was either James 'the brother of the Lord', or a forger is a false one. The Epistle of James was written by a Disciple before the Crucifixion.. (12/18/2021 Yeah, the hypothesis is pretty much irrefutable now.)
@@richardmclaughlin8345 you've not given anything to support your opinion in any of your comments. That means it's what you're saying that isn't standing up.
@@HearGodsWord I get it, you're afraid. I get it, telling the 'Church' it's been off base about a Bible book for 2000 years? Scary. Except James is a pre-Crucifixion epistle. Otherwise you're saying that God inspired an epistle after the Resurrection without even hinting the Resurrection had happened. Now that's scary, because it's blasphemous. And no-one can deny that there isn't the slightest hint of the Passion and Resurrection in James.
@@richardmclaughlin8345 seeing as you're still not offering anything to support your opinion I have nothing to be scared of - you've actually strengthened my belief in fact! You however, reject the one who is to judge the world on the day of judgement. That's something you should be scared about.
@@timrich6755 Ordinarily, proving a negative is impossible. In this case it's child's play. The lack of any reference to the Crucifixion in James demands a pre Crucifixion dating.
@@richardmclaughlin8345 I understand your reasoning. I just reread James to understand your point. Early indeed! For it is clear that James also fails to mention creation. Note also that Jude does not mention the crucifixion. My point in hyperbole is that your reasoning is inherently flawed. You need to apply the reasoning across all books and all points. In your reasoning, though, what reason would James write to the 12 tribes scattered abroad before the crucifixion? What audience did he hope to reach?
Galatians 6: 15-16....read it... The church of Christ is the true Israel... Romans chapter 11 is pointing to those of Israel of the "flesh" who obey Christ until the last day, when it is too late!
That verse DOES NOT SAY the church is Israel! Or the true Israel. As a matter of fact, the word church isn't even found in the entire letter, let alone this verse. For you to make such a claim, you need PROOF, and you have none. The church is not Israel.
Having now finished the video I am reminded of how twisted Christian beliefs really are. Cognitive dissonance is the internal conflict created by holding two fundamentally different beliefs at the same time. This is the core of the problem of Christianity. The New Testament must be read as a dialogue of conflicting beliefs as is presented in the book of Job. There is no way to reconcile the strict Judaism taught by the actual eyewitnesses and the teachings of Paul that we are not saved by following the law and forgiving others, instead we can do as we please because "We are saved by grace through faith that Jesus died as a sacrifice for our sins" and the other created by John that Jesus is in fact, God come to earth. It is the attempt to blend these three different religions that caused the proliferation of Christian denominations. What Yeshua taught was very simple. We are to follow the law of Moshe unless more than one of the prophets tell us that the scribes had changed the law. If we expect forgiveness from God we must forgive everyone he sends to teach us a hard lesson or test our love for him. God is not a righteous judge that expects us to be perfect or he must punish us unless we offer up a sacrifice. Instead, God is a loving father who does not care about what we have done in the past only what we would do given the opportunity in the future. A loving father does not need to punish their child once a lesson has been learned.
Your presuppositions impact your data selection, understanding, and interpretation. What appears to be your theology (it is vague) lacks a historical trail.
@@timrich6755 Tim I am sorry for your lack of reading comprehension skills. I understand those skills are not taught in schools or churches today. Yeshua taught that the Torah was corrupt and how to decern where the scribes had changed the Torah. The destruction of the first temple was the direct result of the changes made to the Torah and Temple service under King Josiah that included the animal sacrificial system. Please go and read Jerimaih 7:22 where God says thru Jerimiah that he did not ask for the killing of the Passover lamb. The primary difference between what Yeshua taught and what is taught in the religions of Judaism and Christianity is that Yeshua taught that God is a loving parent that wants you to stop behaving badly and the religions teach that God is a righteous judge that MUST punish you for your sins unless you pay the priests to slaughter one of his pets or in the case of Christianity that a fellow human paid for your sins with his life. I person with a brain realizes that Christianity is based exclusively on human sacrifice, something God abhors, when the reason Yeshua was publicly executed and then was seen days later by people that did not follow Yeshua was to prove to the Sadducees that the souls could live after the body had died. Yes, the "need" for atonement is written into the Torah not by God, but by the scribes so they, along with the entire priestly class, could profit when others felt they had sinned. I hope someday you follow Yeshua of the broad road of religion and onto the narrow path that actually leads toward God. Shalom
@@timrich6755 If you are party to the New Covenant spoken of by the prophets it may still be written upon your heart. That depends on how much of what you have been told has become "knowledge" to you and how much of it is still just belief which you can change. If the Torah written upon your heart has not been drastically altered and you actually wish to discover what was in the original Torah learn first about Wellhausen's documentary hypothesis as to how the Torah we have came into existence. He wrongly divides on the name of God when he should have divided on the purpose of the changes or additions. Now it is time for you personally to look to the prophets to see where they say the scribes have changed the Torah. You will notice many of the prophets speak in different ways that God demands mercy not sacrifice, that God abhors the smell of burning animals, and most important as far as I am concerned Jeremiah 7:22 tells us that God did not ask for a Passover lamb to be slaughtered. God's early interactions are with individuals not thru priests. Thru following Yeshua's instructions as to how to read the Torah I believe the original Torah did not include the animal sacrificial system or anything about Aaron except for the Golden Calf incident for which I believe he was terminated. In my opinion, the Aaronic line of the Levitical priesthood is a fabrication inserted upon the return from Babalon when a butcher class of priests was needed not just a few scribes. Yeshua taught that we are to call no man teacher or master, including him. We are personally responsible for reconciling the Torah that is written upon our heart with the written Torah by no means other than using the writings and the prophets. In order for you to have any possibility of understanding the truth, you must eliminate all cognitive dissonance, what others would call hypocrisy. If your theology does not account for all of the facts you MUST come up with a new theology or choose to live with cognitive dissonance and be rightly called a hypocrite by others. If you would like to better understand Yeshua's approach to finding the true nature of God please visit my channel. Shalom
Only 12 minutes in and all I can say is wow! Let's take a step back. We have to first understand the Yeshua was not a Christian! He was a Torah observant Jew who did not follow the traditions of the elders. If we are to understand Yeshua's relationship with God we must first understand what it is to be a Torah observant Jew who follows the prophets and not the priests. A modern-day Karaite Jew. Moshe tells us that the truth may be discerned only by the corroborated testimony of two or more eyewitnesses. It is in this context that we must approach what is called the New Testament. If we then put the books in the order in which they were originally authored we can see a back-and-forth dialogue much like there is in the book of Job. First, let's get this crazy notion out of our minds that God will accept anyone especially his son as a human sacrifice for your sins. It is an absolutely insane thought. If we look at the synoptic Gospels we see God teaching us the problems with Pharisaism and Sadducism by Yeshua interactions with the religious leaders of his day. To the Pharisees, Yeshua's message was very clear, stop changing God's law. While the Pharisees tended to add man-made laws in order to negate God's laws, Christians just do away with God's laws altogether. To the Sadducees Yeshua's was message was just as clear, stop sacrificing animals to God (the prophets tell us the scribes had added this to the laws of Moses) and that the soul may live after the body has died. The only possible way to prove the second message was to be publicly executed and then seen publicly days later. The repercussions of this rattled the Roman and Jewish worlds. Then, just as today, there were countless people who wanted to make their living by telling stories about the teachings and ministry of Yeshua. Many of these people had never met Yeshua or even met anyone who had. James, Yeshua's brother, hearing these terrible rumors about false teachings in his brother's name penned a letter not to the world, but to "the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel." When this letter arrived at synagogues where a man who was born Saul but called himself Paul, had taught about Yeshua, Paul wrote to those churches defending his false teachings. There are five writings that are attributed to this Paul character before Matthew the tax collector and Peter through the hand of Mark testify about the time they spent with Yeshua. Galatians, first and second Corinthians, and first and second Thessalonians. One of Paul's companions Luke elaborates on these eyewitness accounts adding teachings that are important to Paul's doctrine. Paul writes more letters and eventually he or one of his followers writes two letters under Peter's name the first to give Paul credibility. The second to replace in certain circles the letter written by Yeshua's brother Jude warning of the false teachers who have crept into their midst. The four New Testament eyewitnesses to the teachings of Yeshua point to salvation being the end result of a life of following the law of Moses as validated by the prophets and of forgiving each and every person God sends to teach you a hard lesson or to test your love for him. The good news that Yeshua preached and the masses readily accepted, but the religious leaders of his day would not is very simple. "God is not a righteous judge demanding a sacrifice or punishment for every sin, but a loving father who does not care what you did in the past only what you would do given the opportunity in the future." Shalom
For those in 2024 and got confused by Acts 12:7 mentioning James, there was a typo in the slide. It should say Acts 12:17.
An awesome lecture series by Dr. Moo :) World-class scholarship combined with Christ-centered transformation!
Thanks Josh for uploading this video. I'm very grateful that you upload this kind of video for the edification and learning for the sake of other searchers like me. May your tribe increase brother!
God bless you I am new here pastor sohail naihmat masih who have been serving the lord for last 20 years ! Am still having learning spirit to lean about Christ our lords . God use you open the door for teaching making more students.
this is some great teaching material
I would think that the early church was primarily Jewish so I think James was giving a nationalistic call calling them the 12 tribes because the church was demoralized a little having to leave Jerusalem. this would have reminded them that they are Gods people still and things are working together.
Genesis 5 says Enoch walked with God and was no more for God took him. Jude called Enoch the 7th from adam a prophet. (He tells us just which Enoch for *slow people* I guess.) Yet people call God and Jude liers. Let God be true and every man a liar. You GUESS at things because you have no wisdom. Jesus told us to get away from the church because the wolves (scribes, rabbis, pharisees) were corrupting His teachings. These books were written for people who have come out of the worldly teachings and have a direct line to God through Jesus. We ask and are given. Why? Because we believe every word that comes out of the mouth of God. The apocrypha books should never have been removed from scripture. James and Paul were on the same page. They all preached the same message. You do not have ears to hear nor eyes to see. Try talking to God and getting away from your church and the world view and start a spiritual view. Stop following the world and start listening to God. WE must change not GOD. How many times has Jesus told us this. If you read these books you will see that Jesus, the apostles, and others quoted and referenced these books. Prove all things people its your salvation at stake. May God bless your understanding.
Early indeed, James is a pre-Crucifixion. (12/18/2021 Yeah, the hypothesis is pretty much irrefutable now.)
It really isn't through
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Again, the comparison that it was either James 'the brother of the Lord', or a forger is a false one. The Epistle of James was written by a Disciple before the Crucifixion.. (12/18/2021 Yeah, the hypothesis is pretty much irrefutable now.)
It's not.
@@HearGodsWord Sir, I'm sorry but your "It's not" cannot stand up against over fifteen years of debate and research .
@@richardmclaughlin8345 you've not given anything to support your opinion in any of your comments. That means it's what you're saying that isn't standing up.
@@HearGodsWord I get it, you're afraid. I get it, telling the 'Church' it's been off base about a Bible book for 2000 years? Scary. Except James is a pre-Crucifixion epistle. Otherwise you're saying that God inspired an epistle after the Resurrection without even hinting the Resurrection had happened. Now that's scary, because it's blasphemous. And no-one can deny that there isn't the slightest hint of the Passion and Resurrection in James.
@@richardmclaughlin8345 seeing as you're still not offering anything to support your opinion I have nothing to be scared of - you've actually strengthened my belief in fact! You however, reject the one who is to judge the world on the day of judgement. That's something you should be scared about.
Sir, the Epistle of James was written before the Crucifixion.
Agreed. What evidence do you have to support this?
Stating often does not make a point: please present the data and your reason.
@@timrich6755 Ordinarily, proving a negative is impossible. In this case it's child's play. The lack of any reference to the Crucifixion in James demands a pre Crucifixion dating.
@@richardmclaughlin8345 I understand your reasoning. I just reread James to understand your point. Early indeed! For it is clear that James also fails to mention creation.
Note also that Jude does not mention the crucifixion.
My point in hyperbole is that your reasoning is inherently flawed. You need to apply the reasoning across all books and all points.
In your reasoning, though, what reason would James write to the 12 tribes scattered abroad before the crucifixion? What audience did he hope to reach?
@@timrich6755 What audience did he hope to reach? Any Jew who would be open to the truth that the Messiah was present in Israel at that moment.
Galatians 6: 15-16....read it...
The church of Christ is the true Israel...
Romans chapter 11 is pointing to those of Israel of the "flesh" who obey Christ until the last day, when it is too late!
That verse DOES NOT SAY the church is Israel! Or the true Israel. As a matter of fact, the word church isn't even found in the entire letter, let alone this verse. For you to make such a claim, you need PROOF, and you have none. The church is not Israel.
Having now finished the video I am reminded of how twisted Christian beliefs really are.
Cognitive dissonance is the internal conflict created by holding two fundamentally different beliefs at the same time. This is the core of the problem of Christianity. The New Testament must be read as a dialogue of conflicting beliefs as is presented in the book of Job. There is no way to reconcile the strict Judaism taught by the actual eyewitnesses and the teachings of Paul that we are not saved by following the law and forgiving others, instead we can do as we please because "We are saved by grace through faith that Jesus died as a sacrifice for our sins" and the other created by John that Jesus is in fact, God come to earth. It is the attempt to blend these three different religions that caused the proliferation of Christian denominations.
What Yeshua taught was very simple. We are to follow the law of Moshe unless more than one of the prophets tell us that the scribes had changed the law. If we expect forgiveness from God we must forgive everyone he sends to teach us a hard lesson or test our love for him. God is not a righteous judge that expects us to be perfect or he must punish us unless we offer up a sacrifice. Instead, God is a loving father who does not care about what we have done in the past only what we would do given the opportunity in the future. A loving father does not need to punish their child once a lesson has been learned.
You intentionally miss the need for atonement. Reread the OT.
Your presuppositions impact your data selection, understanding, and interpretation. What appears to be your theology (it is vague) lacks a historical trail.
@@timrich6755 Tim I am sorry for your lack of reading comprehension skills. I understand those skills are not taught in schools or churches today. Yeshua taught that the Torah was corrupt and how to decern where the scribes had changed the Torah.
The destruction of the first temple was the direct result of the changes made to the Torah and Temple service under King Josiah that included the animal sacrificial system. Please go and read Jerimaih 7:22 where God says thru Jerimiah that he did not ask for the killing of the Passover lamb.
The primary difference between what Yeshua taught and what is taught in the religions of Judaism and Christianity is that Yeshua taught that God is a loving parent that wants you to stop behaving badly and the religions teach that God is a righteous judge that MUST punish you for your sins unless you pay the priests to slaughter one of his pets or in the case of Christianity that a fellow human paid for your sins with his life. I person with a brain realizes that Christianity is based exclusively on human sacrifice, something God abhors, when the reason Yeshua was publicly executed and then was seen days later by people that did not follow Yeshua was to prove to the Sadducees that the souls could live after the body had died.
Yes, the "need" for atonement is written into the Torah not by God, but by the scribes so they, along with the entire priestly class, could profit when others felt they had sinned.
I hope someday you follow Yeshua of the broad road of religion and onto the narrow path that actually leads toward God.
Shalom
@@tombutler7296 where can I locate an uncorrupted copy of the Torah?
@@timrich6755 If you are party to the New Covenant spoken of by the prophets it may still be written upon your heart. That depends on how much of what you have been told has become "knowledge" to you and how much of it is still just belief which you can change.
If the Torah written upon your heart has not been drastically altered and you actually wish to discover what was in the original Torah learn first about Wellhausen's documentary hypothesis as to how the Torah we have came into existence. He wrongly divides on the name of God when he should have divided on the purpose of the changes or additions.
Now it is time for you personally to look to the prophets to see where they say the scribes have changed the Torah. You will notice many of the prophets speak in different ways that God demands mercy not sacrifice, that God abhors the smell of burning animals, and most important as far as I am concerned Jeremiah 7:22 tells us that God did not ask for a Passover lamb to be slaughtered.
God's early interactions are with individuals not thru priests. Thru following Yeshua's instructions as to how to read the Torah I believe the original Torah did not include the animal sacrificial system or anything about Aaron except for the Golden Calf incident for which I believe he was terminated. In my opinion, the Aaronic line of the Levitical priesthood is a fabrication inserted upon the return from Babalon when a butcher class of priests was needed not just a few scribes.
Yeshua taught that we are to call no man teacher or master, including him. We are personally responsible for reconciling the Torah that is written upon our heart with the written Torah by no means other than using the writings and the prophets. In order for you to have any possibility of understanding the truth, you must eliminate all cognitive dissonance, what others would call hypocrisy. If your theology does not account for all of the facts you MUST come up with a new theology or choose to live with cognitive dissonance and be rightly called a hypocrite by others.
If you would like to better understand Yeshua's approach to finding the true nature of God please visit my channel.
Shalom
Get a cough drop bro
Only 12 minutes in and all I can say is wow! Let's take a step back.
We have to first understand the Yeshua was not a Christian! He was a Torah observant Jew who did not follow the traditions of the elders. If we are to understand Yeshua's relationship with God we must first understand what it is to be a Torah observant Jew who follows the prophets and not the priests. A modern-day Karaite Jew.
Moshe tells us that the truth may be discerned only by the corroborated testimony of two or more eyewitnesses. It is in this context that we must approach what is called the New Testament. If we then put the books in the order in which they were originally authored we can see a back-and-forth dialogue much like there is in the book of Job.
First, let's get this crazy notion out of our minds that God will accept anyone especially his son as a human sacrifice for your sins. It is an absolutely insane thought. If we look at the synoptic Gospels we see God teaching us the problems with Pharisaism and Sadducism by Yeshua interactions with the religious leaders of his day.
To the Pharisees, Yeshua's message was very clear, stop changing God's law. While the Pharisees tended to add man-made laws in order to negate God's laws, Christians just do away with God's laws altogether.
To the Sadducees Yeshua's was message was just as clear, stop sacrificing animals to God (the prophets tell us the scribes had added this to the laws of Moses) and that the soul may live after the body has died. The only possible way to prove the second message was to be publicly executed and then seen publicly days later. The repercussions of this rattled the Roman and Jewish worlds.
Then, just as today, there were countless people who wanted to make their living by telling stories about the teachings and ministry of Yeshua. Many of these people had never met Yeshua or even met anyone who had. James, Yeshua's brother, hearing these terrible rumors about false teachings in his brother's name penned a letter not to the world, but to "the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel."
When this letter arrived at synagogues where a man who was born Saul but called himself Paul, had taught about Yeshua, Paul wrote to those churches defending his false teachings. There are five writings that are attributed to this Paul character before Matthew the tax collector and Peter through the hand of Mark testify about the time they spent with Yeshua. Galatians, first and second Corinthians, and first and second Thessalonians. One of Paul's companions Luke elaborates on these eyewitness accounts adding teachings that are important to Paul's doctrine. Paul writes more letters and eventually he or one of his followers writes two letters under Peter's name the first to give Paul credibility. The second to replace in certain circles the letter written by Yeshua's brother Jude warning of the false teachers who have crept into their midst.
The four New Testament eyewitnesses to the teachings of Yeshua point to salvation being the end result of a life of following the law of Moses as validated by the prophets and of forgiving each and every person God sends to teach you a hard lesson or to test your love for him.
The good news that Yeshua preached and the masses readily accepted, but the religious leaders of his day would not is very simple. "God is not a righteous judge demanding a sacrifice or punishment for every sin, but a loving father who does not care what you did in the past only what you would do given the opportunity in the future."
Shalom