I bought a flat-based snare stand from Gibraltar in 2023. With its infinite adjustability there's nothing better. If I ever decide to build a fence around my kit Gibraltar is who I'll get it from.
I have a Stealth rack and a side Stealth on the right side. I absolutely adore the look and positioning options. This is one of Gibraltar's best ideas ever. My favorite rack system by far.
Heey Everyone here!!!! I've got an extra option for the NBO series! I do it myself and it works great for easy setup, and change overs. I'm in a Volbeat Tribute and i have been struggling with my own rack with 4 legs and 3 bars… Since i added a 2nd Bass i needed to get more space in between the front legs… But still i have like 2 m2 drumrizers… So what i came up with is this: I already had the 4 legs and the 3 horizontal bars… So i took the design of a stealth rack like you see on the side of the ride… now it's like a frontal rack but now at both sides of the kit. Next i bought myself a GSVMS and put in a double tom holder as high as possible and placed a snare basket on the other side… Next i added my hihat stand to the side rack on my right side (i'm a lefty) with a straight bar that actually was the front of the stealth rack… And put a little curved bar like the ones you see on the sides of the standard rack you can buy… So… i've got like 4 toms, my snare, 2 hihats, 2 rides, 2 splashes, 2 china's, a bell and 6 crashes mounted to 3 separate racks… That's a lot of stuff on just 3 bars… But still it holds great, and my change overs are DONE IN 7 MINUTES if i can built up behind the scenes… I like to compare my own setup to the one Jon Larsen of Volbeat uses himself and i can tell it's a 99% same kit… Though Jon uses pearl, I work only with Tama and gibraltar… and of what i think of it is that gibraltar has a lot more options… i can work way faster and in angles people call me crazy for… So also a big thanks to gibraltar… And i hope i can contact them soon to show them what i did and how i did it. Further more… I recommend Iron Cobra players to check out the G-Class pedals… I've had cobra's for years but they're beaten by the G-Class who even most less!
I am a Gibraltar die hard fan. I have the 4700 and 6700 series cymbal stands and 2 5700 series snare stand and 1 4700 series snare stand. I also have the full curved rack that my wife got for me 10 years ago and it still looks like it just came right out the box. My other new Gibraltar family member that I am falling in love with the more I play it is the new G Direct Drive single pedal. EXTREMELY powerful which can be controlled/ applied effortlessly. The features are phenomenal. I also have the 4700 swivel hi hat stand and everything is light but very durable and rock solid. I just ordered the stealth with INTERSTATE MUSIC ( CASCIO ) in Wisconsin. I’m looking forward to having a more quicker and cleaner set now for my gigs. Keep up the good work. Gibraltar rocks
I'm highly interested in converting my hardware setup into a rack...i just right now don't have to finances to do so. Thank you for the rack videos, they have been very enlightening.
The long, horizontal ,connecting bat that has the bend in it works well when you turn the bend in such a way that allows it to set very close to the bass drum which facilitates closer placement of the pieces mounted on either end of the VMS.
Hey guys I just want to say I've been using the Intruder for a year now its completely won me over to using Gibraltar hardware been looking into a rack easy to customize to my style of set up and the stealth is my way to go so thanx for this vid, and a big 'attaboy to Gibraltar design team, think you all really nailed it on this...
props for ingenuity. my snare stand never gets in the way, i mount my rack tom and left crash and cowbell on one stand, and my ride and right had crash on one other. works for me
I just bought the GSVMS and a GSSMS....hopefully after what I've seen so far I'll have the perfect set up for my bands tours. I've officially hit that age where less is more haha
the weight is ALWAYS the issue with stands vs. racks. just out of sheer curiosity, id like to see two identical setups, one using stands, the other a rack, be it stealth, spider, or traditional, side by side, setup, tear down, hardware put into bags, and WEIGHED on a scale. ive toted my rack in a 48" military duffel bag before, and it was too much in one bag, but i got it all on one trip. carrying 3 stands for the school performance, took two trips but it felt lighter. love my rack thow :)
I was thinking about a similar low profile, but longer design for double bass drummers that would go down between the kicks, with maybe a third small foot right at the back. The toms would mount at the front, then the snare in the middle and the back end would hold a throne. All three points would of course be adjustable. Can you imagine getting the perfect positions for your seat, snare and rack toms all figured out and then setting it like that and never having to fiddle with it again - ever?
Throwing this out there because wasn't able to find the answer online until I asked someone. The GUASB Ultra-Adjust Snare Basket will hold a 15" snare.
I just posted a video response (older video) to walk you through how to level a curved bar. Basically, be sure to check the level on the horizontal bar in all 3 positions. near each connection as well as in the center of the horizontal bar. Plus make sure your vertical legs are level as well.
I love the whole concept and I have the 400 c setup, but I also have all the stands for a regular setup. But this really only eliminates some floor space and costs a lot of money at the same time after getting all the necessary pieces. If the price was less expensive I could see doing it, other wise nah.
That has to be the most beautiful and ingenious set hardware I've ever seen. I wonder if that's what inspired Ludwig with their new A.T.L.A.S. mounting hardware they recently came up with?
Our clamps will work with the tops of boom stands you already have, if you choose to do that. The only downside to using parts from your cymbal stands, is that if you tighten the clamp to the boom too much, you will misshape the tube of the cymbal boom, and it will not fit back in your stand correctly. For the price of the clamps, you will need to speak to a dealer. Each dealer is going to price them a little differently. We can only give you MSRP, which isn’t going to be much of a help.
I just order the GSVMS, very excited to try this, my snare stand is moving around when I play, which means it´s not where it was when I started playing! I hope this stealth rack can solve it 🤞🏻😎
Racks can limit where rack toms can be mounted. Cymbals on booms can find their way anywhere from a rack. My issue with racks is getting the rack toms in perfect positions. I could design a rack that gets everything where I need it, but it would take time to get it right. I do like the idea of a couple mini racks, like these for touring, for ease of setup. I can see time savings here.
Brent can you set up pearl optimounts on the stealth rack?can you use the existing boom stand bars from pearl hardware for cymbals?looks like great setup !
AWESOME!! I’m a drummer who HATE racks, they look like they should take up more space and take more time to set up but I’m obviously wrong! I play a 1 up, 2 down Pearl kit with 1 22” kick drum and double pedal. (10” rack, 12” & 14” mounted toms in 1st and 2nd floor tom positions) All toms mounted by Optimounts. 14” 1st snare and a 10” second snare mounted off a clamp and tom arm from my hi hat stand. 2 crashes, 1 above the 10” rack tom, not directly above but slightly towards the hi hat and a second above the gap between the ride where the 2nd rack tom would be and the 12” mounted tom in floor tom position 1. 3 slashes, 1 directly above the gap between the 10” rack tom and the ride and 2 inbetween the hi hat and 1st rack Tom (which your splash tree would be perfect for) Now my issue is how to mount the splash in a position that would be above the gap between the ride and 1st rack tom. I have a virgin bass drum and would have to drill it and put a mount on it so that I can mount the 1 rack tom and a boom arm for the ride out of the bass drum and use a boom arm and clamp off the tom mounting arm to mount a boom arm for the splash ... Can this be cleaned up without having to use multiple stands etc, not drill my bass drum and be nice, easy and quick to set up and tear down but be nice, stealthy, not look ‘egotistic’ for a pub gig. Help me out Brent! I’m a bit ‘overwhelmed’ to a degree with what is on offer from Gibraltar and wouldn’t know really where to start.
I'm a big fan of Racks, just the "ape cages" in the 80ies! But the stealth seems to be very usefull on small stages or if you have very short amount of changing time between bands.
great idea. I'm looking for something like this but for percussion instruments. do you think it will be possible to use it with a cajon stand like the MEINL cajon holder and a bongo stand. would be shaky?
So I bought the GSSMS a few months back and it's great. I just upgraded my kit so now I will have 2 rack toms instead of just one. I'm looking at the GSVMS and it seems to be the right one. Will I be able to use the GSVMS to setup my snare, 2 rack toms, and a crash?
If you like playing deep or small diameter snares (I use a 10" Firecracker) real low, standard snare stands suck. I like to keep things simple, and I have a clear acrylic kit. I can position things, memory lock, and then I never have to worry about scratching the shit out of my acrylic rack tom!
As a gigging drummer for a few decades, now, I don’t see a rack item designed like this to be any easier to move from gig to gig than a traditional three legged stand. It looks like it’s thicker and bulky or hardware to have to put into a hardware case or carry from your vehicle. The nice thing with tripod stands is the legs are always collapsible, and therefore the stand can be flattened into a straight rod to be either carried to the vehicle, or put in a hardware case, and then taken to a vehicle. But I already know that I’ve never really been interested in a rack design for my drums. To me, it seems like this hardware is bulkier, and takes up more room and heavier to lift, and carry than a traditional tripod stand mounting system.
i bought both stealth racks..main for snare and the side one. Tear down and tear up with memory lock takes few minutes. Makes set up time (especially in festival ) insanely quick. Not to mention that you find your cymbals and snare at the same perfect height as in your practice/rehearsal room. I was skeptical about it but once i started using them...Absolutely WORTH.
Can we get a tutorial video showing multiple ways to set up the new stealth docking station? I want to purchase but I want to make sure its the best solution for my current spacing issues.
Stefon Hickson thanks for the comment. We are definitely planning to do a video for I the docking station, as soon as we are able to get back into the office
Don't get me wrong, I have a Gibraltar rack and accessories for my Gretsch setup, but they do not even come close to the DW 9000 rack setup for my DW's!
i have the GSVMS i need to get memory locks on it though just havent had the money to do so. its great im currently trying to figure out how to mount 3 toms up top
I own a stealth rack, and I must say, it is not perfect, but it is incredibly convenient. It saves so much space and is sturdy as hell. It looks great; I hated the look of my previous traditional rack. Like I said before, it's not perfect, but for the price and the increased floor space, I would recommend this to any drummer....shit, I recommend it to everyone; you could do anything with this rack. If I didn't play the drums, I could make a bad ass fort with it or maybe even a stand for a BBQ p
great idea for use less floor space and compact size! but I'm still not sure if that rack system is less weight than my light weight hard wears. I wish you tell us the weight in the clip.
Yoichi Sato Believe me… It's light weight… I think if you're trying to compare it is like one stealth rack weights the same as 1 snare stand and one tom stand… Maybe like a 50 gram difference
Cesar Moreno Sometimes i teach some kids drumming and i tried working both with stands and racks for them… The results were actually better with the racks because they are way more strong than any stand pack… If you're looking to get a rack, i'd recommend just a frontal rack. It's easy and really strong, and with the side bars you can reach almost everywhere, and u can still use the rest of your stands if u like to
i want to mount all of them off the same pod. i have two bass drums set fairly wide so i can mount off a cymbal stand and to my right is a low set ride
Next time, show every movement of setting it up! don't edit out the last 3 twists of the wing nut or reaching for the next part. I know it's just small little actions, but it all counts for drummers. I used a Tama rack for years (same as a Gibraltar). transporting it was a pain. it's no faster than a few stands. the only benefit is the smaller footprint.
I recently purchased the flat base stands from gibralter and was wondering if the top portion would fit into the stealth stand. If it does I would need more than one set of inserts for all my flat base stand tops.
Could the GSSMS rack be used in front of the bass drum with the bar very low to the ground ? & could 2 cymbal arms be used with 2 clamps to hang 2 Tom's via clamps over thr bass drum ?
Seems like more of a hassle than a help. How much are the clamps? Do they work with parts of stands that i already have? Boom attachments always get me through!!!!
The bent bar that goes over the double pedal on my GSVMS is giving me problems. The bar is straight up to the bend, but after the bend on the shorter side it dose not continue level after the bend. I just bought a straight 30" bar to make my life easier. Would it be worth it to buy another bend bar for a double bass drum pedal, if decide to buy a double bass drum pedal?
I have the GSVMS, the bent bar is not level at each end which makes it hard to get the mounting posts level. When I reset my kit its a struggle to get the mounting post level again I have no double bass drum pedal. Any ideas?
BOBBYDICK79 thanks for your comment. I would recommend the 9608OS. It’s our Oversized moto throne, and very comfortable. It’s my favorite one out of all the motos
im a drumtech and i've been trying to sell the idea of a Stealth Rack but i cant find that GSVMSDS anywhere. Where can i find it o do i have to buy it seperately?? In fact i need a TRIPLE snare basket, cause the drummer uses both toms in snare baskets, A real pain to get those stands every time. Can you please help me
Thanks for replying. Would this fit between a double bass setup? The pic in the video say yes, but I don't have tha much space on the front between the bass drums, so I'm afraid the rack toms end up too far away. Would you consider making a video or video series kind of like NBO for double bass?
Hi there!!! I'm begginning to work as a Drum Tech for a band, the Drummer has a lot of stands (3 Snare stands and 9 cymbal stands) so i suggested to change to a Stealth Rack, cause he hates racks hahaha. I have to convince him a little more but i have a problem, he usea his rack toms on Snare baskets. How can i put them in a Stealth rack, cause he dont like the toms on a Regular tom stand but in Snare baskets so he can have them as low as possible. These toms are Offset so there is no problem with the Bass Drum. Is there a way to put this kind of set with a Stealth Rack,Im talking about the 2 Baskets for the toms. Please, can you help me with that doubt i have. THANKS YOU!!!
Leonel Rojas for a set this size, he’s going to need some kind of rack or stand to mount all his cymbals to. My suggestion would be to get the GSVMS, and cut the front vertical down to the height needed to mount his rack tom out of. From here, you can add a low profile side cross bar, and attach another snare basket next to the mounted rim snare basket. Essentially, two low profile side racks, with snare baskets mounted off to mount the toms. This way he will have plenty of space to mount all his cymbals, and it won’t be obvious he is playing a rack
But if i cut down the front vertical i would be missing a Cymbals mount hole. Is there a way i can use a doble tier (hope im not wrong) attached from the main Leg to put the Snare baskets. Or adding on the main leg 2 clamps, use two short tubes, add the SC-RMAA on both tubes so i can put the baskets. Can i do that or the weight would affect everything with the clamp that holds the no leg snare stand??
Your idea should work. If you cut the vertical from the bottom rather than the top, you won’t cut the cymbal mount off. Plus, those cymbal mounts are removable anyways. All you need is an Allen key, and they can be removed easily to cut the bar
All your racks have that option of removing the cymbal mount with the alllen key or just this stealth racks?? Can i do this on a GCS375C or the series before this one. im talking about the one that the tier goes thru leg and you use a Drum key to tight it up
Does anyone know if the clamp/adaptor on the front upright tube that you would ut the mounting platform in is easy to remove? I need to make my upright tube higher.
+GibraltarDIY it's not though. It just has all the parts of the actual side rack. Unless I'm missing something. I was just curious which boom attachments they were that you used for the side rack. sorry to be such a pain. :/
+breedlovedrums for the back cymbal, I used the upper two tiers from the 6709NL no leg cymbal stand. This will allow me to place the cymbal as high as I want. You could also use the LBBT, or 4425B-1. For the cymbal cross bar, I used a long boom rod mounted with a multi clamp, SC-GCRMC. The front cymbal was mounted out of the front leg with an SBBT, short boom arm. I hope this helps😀
Daniel Alcala if you are using the vertical mounting system and side mounting system, you can mount 2 toms directly over the bass drum by using the SC-SPCM with a ball L arm out of the the front vertical of each side. This will allow you to mount the toms very similar to a tom stand. You can mount 2 rack toms in the offset position with just the vertical mounting system by using an SC-DP double tom mount.
i hate that is a circle. things will tend to be over tightened to try and prevent them from slipping over. the pearl or yamaha design is much more intelligent.
Drummer: "I don't want to use a rack"
Gibraltar: "Here's a rack for you"
so cool
I bought a flat-based snare stand from Gibraltar in 2023. With its infinite adjustability there's nothing better.
If I ever decide to build a fence around my kit Gibraltar is who I'll get it from.
I have a Stealth rack and a side Stealth on the right side. I absolutely adore the look and positioning options. This is one of Gibraltar's best ideas ever. My favorite rack system by far.
i simply just LOVE gibraltars products. some products are very cheap compared to what the professionals use and still do the same functions!
Heey Everyone here!!!!
I've got an extra option for the NBO series! I do it myself and it works great for easy setup, and change overs. I'm in a Volbeat Tribute and i have been struggling with my own rack with 4 legs and 3 bars… Since i added a 2nd Bass i needed to get more space in between the front legs… But still i have like 2 m2 drumrizers…
So what i came up with is this:
I already had the 4 legs and the 3 horizontal bars… So i took the design of a stealth rack like you see on the side of the ride… now it's like a frontal rack but now at both sides of the kit. Next i bought myself a GSVMS and put in a double tom holder as high as possible and placed a snare basket on the other side…
Next i added my hihat stand to the side rack on my right side (i'm a lefty) with a straight bar that actually was the front of the stealth rack… And put a little curved bar like the ones you see on the sides of the standard rack you can buy…
So… i've got like 4 toms, my snare, 2 hihats, 2 rides, 2 splashes, 2 china's, a bell and 6 crashes mounted to 3 separate racks… That's a lot of stuff on just 3 bars… But still it holds great, and my change overs are DONE IN 7 MINUTES if i can built up behind the scenes…
I like to compare my own setup to the one Jon Larsen of Volbeat uses himself and i can tell it's a 99% same kit… Though Jon uses pearl, I work only with Tama and gibraltar… and of what i think of it is that gibraltar has a lot more options… i can work way faster and in angles people call me crazy for…
So also a big thanks to gibraltar… And i hope i can contact them soon to show them what i did and how i did it. Further more… I recommend Iron Cobra players to check out the G-Class pedals… I've had cobra's for years but they're beaten by the G-Class who even most less!
I usually hate racks, but love these. Also, I never get over how great those all black drum kits look!
I always respected Gibraltar but I love this company now! Making drum life easier!
I am a Gibraltar die hard fan. I have the 4700 and 6700 series cymbal stands and 2 5700 series snare stand and 1 4700 series snare stand. I also have the full curved rack that my wife got for me 10 years ago and it still looks like it just came right out the box. My other new Gibraltar family member that I am falling in love with the more I play it is the new G Direct Drive single pedal. EXTREMELY powerful which can be controlled/ applied effortlessly. The features are phenomenal. I also have the 4700 swivel hi hat stand and everything is light but very durable and rock solid. I just ordered the stealth with INTERSTATE MUSIC ( CASCIO ) in Wisconsin. I’m looking forward to having a more quicker and cleaner set now for my gigs. Keep up the good work. Gibraltar rocks
Just getting use to mine. Totally impressed by the quality,and versatility.
I'll be buying one more for the other side of the kit soon.
Perfect!
I'm highly interested in converting my hardware setup into a rack...i just right now don't have to finances to do so. Thank you for the rack videos, they have been very enlightening.
The long, horizontal ,connecting bat that has the bend in it works well when you turn the bend in such a way that allows it to set very close to the bass drum which facilitates closer placement of the pieces mounted on either end of the VMS.
Hey guys I just want to say I've been using the Intruder for a year now its completely won me over to using Gibraltar hardware been looking into a rack easy to customize to my style of set up and the stealth is my way to go so thanx for this vid, and a big 'attaboy to Gibraltar design team, think you all really nailed it on this...
props for ingenuity. my snare stand never gets in the way, i mount my rack tom and left crash and cowbell on one stand, and my ride and right had crash on one other. works for me
I just bought the GSVMS and a GSSMS....hopefully after what I've seen so far I'll have the perfect set up for my bands tours. I've officially hit that age where less is more haha
I definitely need to invest in one of these. Tearing down and setting up countless stands is a pain. This is a total must have.
the weight is ALWAYS the issue with stands vs. racks. just out of sheer curiosity, id like to see two identical setups, one using stands, the other a rack, be it stealth, spider, or traditional, side by side, setup, tear down, hardware put into bags, and WEIGHED on a scale. ive toted my rack in a 48" military duffel bag before, and it was too much in one bag, but i got it all on one trip. carrying 3 stands for the school performance, took two trips but it felt lighter. love my rack thow :)
I was thinking about a similar low profile, but longer design for double bass drummers that would go down between the kicks, with maybe a third small foot right at the back. The toms would mount at the front, then the snare in the middle and the back end would hold a throne. All three points would of course be adjustable. Can you imagine getting the perfect positions for your seat, snare and rack toms all figured out and then setting it like that and never having to fiddle with it again - ever?
You can use a double tom mount on the GSVMS, and mount the 3rd rack tom to a cymbal stand, tom stand, or GSSMS on the right side of the bass drum.
Throwing this out there because wasn't able to find the answer online until I asked someone.
The GUASB Ultra-Adjust Snare Basket will hold a 15" snare.
I love your videos!! These are the main reason why I will buy a Gibraltar rack soon! Jus great, so much information!
I just posted a video response (older video) to walk you through how to level a curved bar. Basically, be sure to check the level on the horizontal bar in all 3 positions. near each connection as well as in the center of the horizontal bar. Plus make sure your vertical legs are level as well.
I love the whole concept and I have the 400 c setup, but I also have all the stands for a regular setup. But this really only eliminates some floor space and costs a lot of money at the same time after getting all the necessary pieces. If the price was less expensive I could see doing it, other wise nah.
thats exactly how ive always felt about racks. I feel like you guys made this for me.
So much to say about the rack... but tried to keep it as short as possible. Thx!!
That has to be the most beautiful and ingenious set hardware I've ever seen. I wonder if that's what inspired Ludwig with their new A.T.L.A.S. mounting hardware they recently came up with?
Our clamps will work with the tops of boom stands you already have, if you choose to do that. The only downside to using parts from your cymbal stands, is that if you tighten the clamp to the boom too much, you will misshape the tube of the cymbal boom, and it will not fit back in your stand correctly. For the price of the clamps, you will need to speak to a dealer. Each dealer is going to price them a little differently. We can only give you MSRP, which isn’t going to be much of a help.
The clamp used to mount the cymbal boom to the GSSMS is the SC-GCRMC Multi clamp. thx!
I bought one a few years back, and I swear by them now!!
I just order the GSVMS, very excited to try this, my snare stand is moving around when I play, which means it´s not where it was when I started playing! I hope this stealth rack can solve it 🤞🏻😎
Racks can limit where rack toms can be mounted. Cymbals on booms can find their way anywhere from a rack. My issue with racks is getting the rack toms in perfect positions. I could design a rack that gets everything where I need it, but it would take time to get it right. I do like the idea of a couple mini racks, like these for touring, for ease of setup. I can see time savings here.
You guys cease to amaze me
I'm so glad I bought this! Super convenient! Made my life easier! I'm saving up for the side rack! :)
This is so helpful!! Thanks so much! I'm going to definitely pick up the stealth and stealth side racks.
damn, i miss this format of videos
Brent can you set up pearl optimounts on the stealth rack?can you use the existing boom stand bars from pearl hardware for cymbals?looks like great setup !
flyrod158 There is a vid how to convert a pearl rack to a gibraltar! check it out :)
I just bought one. Thank you for doing this excellent review--great job !
AWESOME!! I’m a drummer who HATE racks, they look like they should take up more space and take more time to set up but I’m obviously wrong! I play a 1 up, 2 down Pearl kit with 1 22” kick drum and double pedal. (10” rack, 12” & 14” mounted toms in 1st and 2nd floor tom positions) All toms mounted by Optimounts. 14” 1st snare and a 10” second snare mounted off a clamp and tom arm from my hi hat stand. 2 crashes, 1 above the 10” rack tom, not directly above but slightly towards the hi hat and a second above the gap between the ride where the 2nd rack tom would be and the 12” mounted tom in floor tom position 1. 3 slashes, 1 directly above the gap between the 10” rack tom and the ride and 2 inbetween the hi hat and 1st rack Tom (which your splash tree would be perfect for) Now my issue is how to mount the splash in a position that would be above the gap between the ride and 1st rack tom. I have a virgin bass drum and would have to drill it and put a mount on it so that I can mount the 1 rack tom and a boom arm for the ride out of the bass drum and use a boom arm and clamp off the tom mounting arm to mount a boom arm for the splash ... Can this be cleaned up without having to use multiple stands etc, not drill my bass drum and be nice, easy and quick to set up and tear down but be nice, stealthy, not look ‘egotistic’ for a pub gig. Help me out Brent! I’m a bit ‘overwhelmed’ to a degree with what is on offer from Gibraltar and wouldn’t know really where to start.
Sauron191 please send us an email at contact@gibraltarhardware.com
I'm a big fan of Racks, just the "ape cages" in the 80ies! But the stealth seems to be very usefull on small stages or if you have very short amount of changing time between bands.
IzzyOnGuitar Yo! Check my reaction above! You can have both the 'ape cage' and the use of the stealth rack…
There is a dealer locator on our website. YT doesn't allow links in the comments section but just visit the Gibraltar Hardware site.
great idea. I'm looking for something like this but for percussion instruments. do you think it will be possible to use it with a cajon stand like the MEINL cajon holder and a bongo stand. would be shaky?
Shouldn't be a problem as long as the meinl hardware fits into the brackets. You will want to check the measurements, etc.
GibraltarDIY thanks for your answer. the meinl hardware has 2,5 cm (about 0,98 inch) would this fit into the brackets?. thanks again.
So I bought the GSSMS a few months back and it's great. I just upgraded my kit so now I will have 2 rack toms instead of just one. I'm looking at the GSVMS and it seems to be the right one. Will I be able to use the GSVMS to setup my snare, 2 rack toms, and a crash?
If you like playing deep or small diameter snares (I use a 10" Firecracker) real low, standard snare stands suck. I like to keep things simple, and I have a clear acrylic kit. I can position things, memory lock, and then I never have to worry about scratching the shit out of my acrylic rack tom!
This seems like a good idea to me. Must check it out
As a gigging drummer for a few decades, now, I don’t see a rack item designed like this to be any easier to move from gig to gig than a traditional three legged stand. It looks like it’s thicker and bulky or hardware to have to put into a hardware case or carry from your vehicle. The nice thing with tripod stands is the legs are always collapsible, and therefore the stand can be flattened into a straight rod to be either carried to the vehicle, or put in a hardware case, and then taken to a vehicle. But I already know that I’ve never really been interested in a rack design for my drums. To me, it seems like this hardware is bulkier, and takes up more room and heavier to lift, and carry than a traditional tripod stand mounting system.
i bought both stealth racks..main for snare and the side one. Tear down and tear up with memory lock takes few minutes. Makes set up time (especially in festival ) insanely quick. Not to mention that you find your cymbals and snare at the same perfect height as in your practice/rehearsal room. I was skeptical about it but once i started using them...Absolutely WORTH.
Can we get a tutorial video showing multiple ways to set up the new stealth docking station? I want to purchase but I want to make sure its the best solution for my current spacing issues.
Stefon Hickson thanks for the comment. We are definitely planning to do a video for I the docking station, as soon as we are able to get back into the office
Don't get me wrong, I have a Gibraltar rack and accessories for my Gretsch setup, but they do not even come close to the DW 9000 rack setup for my DW's!
i have the GSVMS i need to get memory locks on it though just havent had the money to do so. its great im currently trying to figure out how to mount 3 toms up top
I own a stealth rack, and I must say, it is not perfect, but it is incredibly convenient. It saves so much space and is sturdy as hell. It looks great; I hated the look of my previous traditional rack. Like I said before, it's not perfect, but for the price and the increased floor space, I would recommend this to any drummer....shit, I recommend it to everyone; you could do anything with this rack. If I didn't play the drums, I could make a bad ass fort with it or maybe even a stand for a BBQ p
Is the single rack holder long enough to mount a 11x14 rack tom directly over a 26” bass drum?
Great design! I keep about 2 racks worth of parts to play with and design.
great idea for use less floor space and compact size! but I'm still not sure if that rack system is less weight than my light weight hard wears.
I wish you tell us the weight in the clip.
Yoichi Sato Believe me… It's light weight… I think if you're trying to compare it is like one stealth rack weights the same as 1 snare stand and one tom stand… Maybe like a 50 gram difference
ah man I need this soon as! stands are far too heavy for me to carry round
Why did I just find out about these?
Are these worth getting as a Beginner drummer.
(Meaning just got my first kit about 2 weeks ago)
Cesar Moreno You might want to play for a while and get comfortable. Some drummers love racks som don't. 👍
Cesar Moreno Sometimes i teach some kids drumming and i tried working both with stands and racks for them… The results were actually better with the racks because they are way more strong than any stand pack… If you're looking to get a rack, i'd recommend just a frontal rack. It's easy and really strong, and with the side bars you can reach almost everywhere, and u can still use the rest of your stands if u like to
Wow!!! I take this one! I would love to know the price and how to contact you.
Awesome Brent! 🤘🥁🤘DC
i want to mount all of them off the same pod. i have two bass drums set fairly wide so i can mount off a cymbal stand and to my right is a low set ride
Next time, show every movement of setting it up! don't edit out the last 3 twists of the wing nut or reaching for the next part. I know it's just small little actions, but it all counts for drummers. I used a Tama rack for years (same as a Gibraltar). transporting it was a pain. it's no faster than a few stands. the only benefit is the smaller footprint.
I recently purchased the flat base stands from gibralter and was wondering if the top portion would fit into the stealth stand. If it does I would need more than one set of inserts for all my flat base stand tops.
Could the GSSMS rack be used in front of the bass drum with the bar very low to the ground ? & could 2 cymbal arms be used with 2 clamps to hang 2 Tom's via clamps over thr bass drum ?
You haven't done a video on the GCFSS yet? I need you to convince me to buy one.
Right after 6:10, the drummer is playing Cissy Strut, by the Meters
I need these... Why am I just finding out about this now though??? :\
Do you supply to New Zealand. Im in desperate need of the stealth rack.
I would use this for my snare and tom, for that perfect placement, but I change my cymbal set-up too much to keep my cymbals on it.
nice and clean great system!
Seems like more of a hassle than a help. How much are the clamps? Do they work with parts of stands that i already have? Boom attachments always get me through!!!!
In case the snare stand bar is too short on the GSVMS-KIT, what would be the best way to increase the height?
Which parts are combined in the crash,tom snare unit?
I have to get this...
What is the part number for the vertical extension tube that's holding the rear crash boom arm?
Nice Cissy strut groove you've got there! 6:15
All hail Ziggy!
Sorry, I got distracted by the Cissy Strut beat. What was it you were talking about?
Im sold if i can cut down half the weight of my stand bag im gonna do so lol
The bent bar that goes over the double pedal on my GSVMS is giving me problems. The bar is straight up to the bend, but after the bend on the shorter side it dose not continue level after the bend. I just bought a straight 30" bar to make my life easier. Would it be worth it to buy another bend bar for a double bass drum pedal, if decide to buy a double bass drum pedal?
I have the GSVMS, the bent bar is not level at each end which makes it hard to get the mounting posts level. When I reset my kit its a struggle to get the mounting post level again I have no double bass drum pedal. Any ideas?
Which clamp should I get for my Side Stealth Rack? I want to add my second crash to my right side.
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I want to buy a drum throne that could serve me well, i can't decide which one. I am 6'3 tall and 280lbs, can you suggest me a proper drum throne?
BOBBYDICK79 thanks for your comment. I would recommend the 9608OS. It’s our Oversized moto throne, and very comfortable. It’s my favorite one out of all the motos
Lol the cissy strut groove in the background
Do you offer it with a dual L rod mount?
Great man love it
im a drumtech and i've been trying to sell the idea of a Stealth Rack but i cant find that GSVMSDS anywhere. Where can i find it o do i have to buy it seperately?? In fact i need a TRIPLE snare basket, cause the drummer uses both toms in snare baskets, A real pain to get those stands every time. Can you please help me
What is a good double tom and cymbal mount for the stealth rack?
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What's the length of both T-legs on the GSVMS? I've been looking for it, but I haven't got any luck finding it
alanhatedrummer The GSVMS T-leg lengths are 20” for the longer 450 and 6” for the shorter base. 👍
Thanks for replying. Would this fit between a double bass setup? The pic in the video say yes, but I don't have tha much space on the front between the bass drums, so I'm afraid the rack toms end up too far away.
Would you consider making a video or video series kind of like NBO for double bass?
clamp model #'s & pipe sizes would've helped greatly in vid.
this is awesome!
Hi there!!! I'm begginning to work as a Drum Tech for a band, the Drummer has a lot of stands (3 Snare stands and 9 cymbal stands) so i suggested to change to a Stealth Rack, cause he hates racks hahaha. I have to convince him a little more but i have a problem, he usea his rack toms on Snare baskets.
How can i put them in a Stealth rack, cause he dont like the toms on a Regular tom stand but in Snare baskets so he can have them as low as possible. These toms are Offset so there is no problem with the Bass Drum.
Is there a way to put this kind of set with a Stealth Rack,Im talking about the 2 Baskets for the toms. Please, can you help me with that doubt i have.
THANKS YOU!!!
Leonel Rojas for a set this size, he’s going to need some kind of rack or stand to mount all his cymbals to. My suggestion would be to get the GSVMS, and cut the front vertical down to the height needed to mount his rack tom out of. From here, you can add a low profile side cross bar, and attach another snare basket next to the mounted rim snare basket. Essentially, two low profile side racks, with snare baskets mounted off to mount the toms. This way he will have plenty of space to mount all his cymbals, and it won’t be obvious he is playing a rack
But if i cut down the front vertical i would be missing a Cymbals mount hole. Is there a way i can use a doble tier (hope im not wrong) attached from the main Leg to put the Snare baskets. Or adding on the main leg 2 clamps, use two short tubes, add the SC-RMAA on both tubes so i can put the baskets.
Can i do that or the weight would affect everything with the clamp that holds the no leg snare stand??
Your idea should work. If you cut the vertical from the bottom rather than the top, you won’t cut the cymbal mount off. Plus, those cymbal mounts are removable anyways. All you need is an Allen key, and they can be removed easily to cut the bar
All your racks have that option of removing the cymbal mount with the alllen key or just this stealth racks?? Can i do this on a GCS375C or the series before this one. im talking about the one that the tier goes thru leg and you use a Drum key to tight it up
Leonel Rojas all our racks that come with a cymbal mount on the end of the verticals have the ability to remove the mount with an allen key
It would be great if you shot the video on a white floor so we could actually see what is going on. Chrome on black is very hard to see.
I'll take 2 - in Black
Does anyone know if the clamp/adaptor on the front upright tube that you would ut the mounting platform in is easy to remove? I need to make my upright tube higher.
Sauron191 yes. All you need to use is an Allen wrench to remove the two screws on the sides
Nice one Brent!! Thank you!!! 👊🏻👊🏻
Were is the best place for me to get price and parts I need to get set up.
Here are a few dealers that can help you.
Sweetwater
Drum Center of Portsmouth
Musician’s Friend
Steve Weiss
what is the model number for all the pieces you added to the side rack? I want mine identical. :)
It's in the description. 😉
+GibraltarDIY it's not though. It just has all the parts of the actual side rack. Unless I'm missing something. I was just curious which boom attachments they were that you used for the side rack. sorry to be such a pain. :/
+breedlovedrums for the back cymbal, I used the upper two tiers from the 6709NL no leg cymbal stand. This will allow me to place the cymbal as high as I want. You could also use the LBBT, or 4425B-1. For the cymbal cross bar, I used a long boom rod mounted with a multi clamp, SC-GCRMC. The front cymbal was mounted out of the front leg with an SBBT, short boom arm. I hope this helps😀
Thanks
How did you do the two up one down on 2 stealth racks?
Daniel Alcala if you are using the vertical mounting system and side mounting system, you can mount 2 toms directly over the bass drum by using the SC-SPCM with a ball L arm out of the the front vertical of each side. This will allow you to mount the toms very similar to a tom stand. You can mount 2 rack toms in the offset position with just the vertical mounting system by using an SC-DP double tom mount.
How about making them out of aluminum or some real light metal alloy?! I would pay extra bucks for that!
SoOb Dude… No need to :P Those racks are really light weight… and with the quality they deliver it's a miracle they're so light ^^
Whats the prices
im sold take my money!
Nice!!!!
why is that tom mount so huge
The snare stand is too low. You need a longer tube for the snare basket. I bought this and I don't use it because of this issue!
Phil Phillips thanks for the comment. We have addressed this issue. All stealth racks come with a longer snare basket.
GibraltarDIY so how do I get a replacement then?
And they conveniently disregard my last question....
@@GibraltarHardware What is the part number for new longer snare basket?
The model number for the snare basket is GUASB.
i hate that is a circle. things will tend to be over tightened to try and prevent them from slipping over. the pearl or yamaha design is much more intelligent.
Sticksbass I agree
You would think so but these work extremely well sticksbass.