The Rose is the best, I reach for it everytime. Its built of parts meant for a job not just a program. Analog filter not some tone knob to nowhere. 1Ms to 50s delays. The octave jumping and the backwards! The random oscillator is the secret sauce. Great limiter to keep it all in pocket. Favorite delay hands down cause it sounds good always.
Thanks for this excellent comparison. I have been lusting after an H9 for a while but after seeing this comparison, have decided to get a Rose instead.
The fact that Rose has knobs is even more important than a slightly difference of tone and resources. I already have a huge pedalboard, in addition if I need a computer to get what expect from a pedal, I'll feel like selling my guitars.
rose is definitely dreamier, kind of has a BoC vibe. more depth, more 3d congrats! this is the first video i've seen that made me like the rose i would be very interested in hearing a comparison between rose and pigtronix echolution filter, which is basically a modern ehx memory man. same designer
Great video and the comparing of the two... I once owned three H9's but let them go for a Strymon Volante, Deco and Timeline. I have to admit I like the Rose a lot.and after hearing the comparison this might hit my peadal board soon.
I love the Rose, but I keep going back to the Vintage Delay on the TimeFactor. It’s just a unique algorithm and the way it reacts to changing delay times with an expression pedal is something I could never let go.
Came to like the Rose and it's indeed nice, but feel I am sorted with the Volante in that regard and just reminded how nice of a production tool the H9 really is. Sits perfectly in the mix.
Thank you! I've just bought a Rose (great ebay price) and I was wondering whether it I should trade it in on an H9 (I already have a Timefactor) .... but I think that the character of the Rose will keep me happy for a while :D
Out of those 2 I'd prefer H9, that Rose sometimes gets weird repeat patterns for my modern electronic music taste but in the end I would take Blue Sky/Big Sky from Strymon instead. My 2 completely irrelevant cents.
I like the vintage setting better on the H9. I would actually rather get the Timefactor than the Rose for about the same cost. I would also rather get a Memory Boy Deluxe, which costs the half.
I have the H9 and a TimeFfactor. I’d love me a Rose for many reasons: One being the manual bending of sounds via the Time knob with total precision like a BBD chips based delay (including bending whole loops). The second, having loops that can be degraded/altered in tone with each pass (or not, via the freeze function) and the extra time (a lot!) Vs the Factor/H9 algos (some of which are sublime in their own ways).
Not really, you can do a similar thing - put the delay through a filter that’s the. Fed back into the delay. You’d need a pedal where you can do this (you can on the Moog ironically) but you don’t get the same character.. it the degrading of the analog tone through the BBD circuits that gives it that distinct tone. Yes it reduced the HF signal but it also brings other artefacts. These things are subtle but nice. If you’re using it as an integral part of a track you’d probably notice - if you’re using it as a standard delay on a part on a large multitrack project - maybe not. These things have their place - which definitely isn’t everywhere - if you get my drift.
@@StarskyCarr ok i get it, you mean it acts recursively, since the character is made in the feedback, it is not like a one time tone shaping. Alright, well that delay makes me wanna spend a lot of dollars
Rose sounds really pleasing and warm with lot of character and H9 simply have more options / presets and so and is more dull sounding. Both are extremly usefull, because often "duller" sounding instrument/fx is what you need in your mixdown and opposite. Great review, thank you!
Duller in some ways, sharper in others. Very tough to nail down the differences in sound. Honestly most of the time, I felt the Rose was duller but more syrupy so it worked.
@@Art-zs6sl I guess we only have both little different views on how to call things. I meaned duller in various musical harmonics, not really in brightness or so. I try different word.. Rose sound more "spicy". :)
I like how the Rose sounds like the clearer, high quality analog delays from the late 70s and early 80s- and not a shitty, muddy caricature like many modern-designed analog delays.
H9 sounds basic and boring, utilitarian. That Rose feels like a foamy, sudsy time machine. LFO modulating the pitch with some slight cutoff of the delay ...feels more cloudy/moody.
The Rose is the best, I reach for it everytime. Its built of parts meant for a job not just a program. Analog filter not some tone knob to nowhere. 1Ms to 50s delays. The octave jumping and the backwards! The random oscillator is the secret sauce. Great limiter to keep it all in pocket. Favorite delay hands down cause it sounds good always.
H9: clean, modern, precise. Rose: warm, dreamy, retro, characterful.
H9 sounds like something is about to happen, Rose it already has happened.
If you delve into and really get to know the H9, believe me, it has already happened and succedeed.
@@javiceres I like it better nearly every time.
@@alexmata196 Apples and oranges (for the biggest part).
I think eventide designed and released the Rose precisely to cover different ground :)
Thanks for this excellent comparison. I have been lusting after an H9 for a while but after seeing this comparison, have decided to get a Rose instead.
Enjoyed that comparison, many thanks.
The fact that Rose has knobs is even more important than a slightly difference of tone and resources. I already have a huge pedalboard, in addition if I need a computer to get what expect from a pedal, I'll feel like selling my guitars.
Very nice to listen to this comparison, thank you!
rose is definitely dreamier, kind of has a BoC vibe. more depth, more 3d
congrats! this is the first video i've seen that made me like the rose
i would be very interested in hearing a comparison between rose and pigtronix echolution filter, which is basically a modern ehx memory man. same designer
Great video and the comparing of the two... I once owned three H9's but let them go for a Strymon Volante, Deco and Timeline. I have to admit I like the Rose a lot.and after hearing the comparison this might hit my peadal board soon.
You'd get rid of the Volante for a Rose?
I love the Rose, but I keep going back to the Vintage Delay on the TimeFactor. It’s just a unique algorithm and the way it reacts to changing delay times with an expression pedal is something I could never let go.
You've already sold me on it.
Came to like the Rose and it's indeed nice, but feel I am sorted with the Volante in that regard and just reminded how nice of a production tool the H9 really is. Sits perfectly in the mix.
Thank you! I've just bought a Rose (great ebay price) and I was wondering whether it I should trade it in on an H9 (I already have a Timefactor) .... but I think that the character of the Rose will keep me happy for a while :D
Wow ur microphone is amazing!
The rose reminds me very much to my moogerfoger mf 104 I sold. Now I have a GFI clockwork and I love it so much.
Interesting... have you seen this? I came to the same conclusion:
Eventide Rose vs Moog Moogerfooger 104M ua-cam.com/video/-OYKDf7pS1Q/v-deo.html
Quite 400 Eur for a delay... I prefer to invest in a sythn / expander or the same price.
Out of those 2 I'd prefer H9, that Rose sometimes gets weird repeat patterns for my modern electronic music taste but in the end I would take Blue Sky/Big Sky from Strymon instead. My 2 completely irrelevant cents.
I've a big sky on order so might put the H9 up again it soon ;)
@@StarskyCarr that would be pretty sweet good Sir :D
@@StarskyCarr Yes would also love to hear that comparison!
I love my empress reverb and I'm curious how the empress delay echosystem fares against these. I have a timefactor currently.
I would say the Rose delayed signal sounds more chorusy. Two different flavors in the end both tasty
That depends on where you have the mod set. For the record you can make the repeats on the H9 sound just as chorusy.
I like the vintage setting better on the H9. I would actually rather get the Timefactor than the Rose for about the same cost. I would also rather get a Memory Boy Deluxe, which costs the half.
I have both on my board. The only real difference I hear is the Rose repeats are more upfront, thicker and pronounced. The H9 repeats are more subtle.
I have the H9 and a TimeFfactor. I’d love me a Rose for many reasons:
One being the manual bending of sounds via the Time knob with total precision like a BBD chips based delay (including bending whole loops).
The second, having loops that can be degraded/altered in tone with each pass (or not, via the freeze function) and the extra time (a lot!) Vs the Factor/H9 algos (some of which are sublime in their own ways).
Rose sounds more close to analog.
That's because it is.
mk.ufo1988 😂😆😂😆
can't we fake the sound by addine a filter to the wet signal in parallel?
Not really, you can do a similar thing - put the delay through a filter that’s the. Fed back into the delay. You’d need a pedal where you can do this (you can on the Moog ironically) but you don’t get the same character.. it the degrading of the analog tone through the BBD circuits that gives it that distinct tone. Yes it reduced the HF signal but it also brings other artefacts. These things are subtle but nice. If you’re using it as an integral part of a track you’d probably notice - if you’re using it as a standard delay on a part on a large multitrack project - maybe not. These things have their place - which definitely isn’t everywhere - if you get my drift.
@@StarskyCarr ok i get it, you mean it acts recursively, since the character is made in the feedback, it is not like a one time tone shaping. Alright, well that delay makes me wanna spend a lot of dollars
I like the ( Filter) character of the Rose..
I'd like to hear the Rose up against the trusty El Capistan.
Im waiting on a Grandmother and just cant wait ...
For me the H9 would work better in a mix, i'd spend more time filtering out unwanted frequencies on the rose.
It’s actually easier to manipulate the Rose on the fly. All that unwanted stuff is also available on the H9.
My super high tech assessment is that the Rose kicks more ass
Rose sounds really pleasing and warm with lot of character and H9 simply have more options / presets and so and is more dull sounding. Both are extremly usefull, because often "duller" sounding instrument/fx is what you need in your mixdown and opposite. Great review, thank you!
Duller in some ways, sharper in others. Very tough to nail down the differences in sound. Honestly most of the time, I felt the Rose was duller but more syrupy so it worked.
@@Art-zs6sl I guess we only have both little different views on how to call things. I meaned duller in various musical harmonics, not really in brightness or so. I try different word.. Rose sound more "spicy". :)
Softer repeats... less harsh
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FTR, the H9 retails for $699 and the Rose $279.
I definitely like the character in the Rose and I’ll take two of each.
6:20 -7:00 🤤
I like how the Rose sounds like the clearer, high quality analog delays from the late 70s and early 80s- and not a shitty, muddy caricature like many modern-designed analog delays.
Nope - There all raving about the poly digit 🤪
H9 sounds basic and boring, utilitarian. That Rose feels like a foamy, sudsy time machine. LFO modulating the pitch with some slight cutoff of the delay ...feels more cloudy/moody.
Rose sounds a little chucky cheeseish
Mmmmm nothing a plug-in cannot do -
..but it's got a pulsating multicoloured rose..!
Frankie Says " Relax "
@@sideast ???? Starsky is obviously being sarcastic...
Nope skipping this one. So - not everyone is raving about it.
Gosh, I’d better change the title!!! How embarrassing.... oh no 🤦🏼♀️