When Did the Oscars Stop Respecting Animation?
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"When did they start respecting animation?" Idk man maybe the video will tell you and you can leave a comment after you've watched it
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You said it.
You tell them, Schaff.
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Yep. Call that bozo out.
The notion that "all animation is for children" is one of the greatest mistakes the entertainment industry has made
It is one of the stupidest claims I've ever heard in my life
The wall exists ik it’s not all animated but it’s definitely not for kids
Watch something else that isn’t kids movies
"All [blank] is for children" is just generally a stupid statement
I'm sorry but whenever people say this they're referring to movies which are explicitly either made for children or made for families WITH their children, like Pixar or Dreamworks movies. They don't just get a PG/G rating by chance, they limit their vision to maximize profits from their target audience... Kid/Family movies can be very good but I think to act like the majority of animated films, at-least in the west, aren't made for children is disingenuous. Most adult animation exists within the TV sphere.
fun fact: chicken run was heavily pushed to be nominated for the best picture, and while it didn’t get the nomination, it’s what made them add the best animated feature category the next year. chicken run walked so shrek could run
Loved 'Chicken Run'.
I’m surprised Beauty and the Beast wasn’t the animated film that pushed the Academy to add the Best Animated Feature category considering the many nominations it received in addition to Best Picture.
Hehe… “Chicken Walk”
True.
Chicken run sucked changed my mind
After the success of Spiderverse, Phil Lord and Chris Miller were asked over and over by various producers when they were going to make a "serious" movie, as if they hadn't already made one of the best films of the 2010s
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That's a damn shame.
Wtf
That’s just insulting.
still can't get over how A silent voice, a beautiful and tearjerking tale about the consequences of bullying and finding redemption lost to a braindead movie about a baby in a tuxedo
The latter got a lower audience rating than A Silent Voice
I didn’t “loose” 💀 boss baby didn’t win
And a talking bull
The Oscars treats animation from Japan even worse than the stuff from the West.
Violet Evergarden too
Animation needs to be accepted as a medium not a genre .
Truth. It’s just a way of telling a story. Same thing with video games. You don’t look at something like Red Dead Redemption and say “that’s part of the video game genre”. No. It’s a western that happens to be in the medium of video games. Just like WALL-E is a sci fi movie that happens to be animated and Spirited Away is a fantasy movie that happens to be animated.
And the movie has to respect the audience back, so many now are the equivalent of jangling keys in a kids face.
The biggest irony is the fact that they nominated a movie about a homosexual man running from Afghan , and they called animation a kids genre
Mr Del Torro better say that when he claims his Oscar for best animated film for Pinnochio. That is IF it wins and the academy doesn’t just insult us once again with a big middle finger
Edit: THE MAN DID IT!
Doesn't help that most animated movies now seem to pander to kids (and by most I mainly mean ones from Disney and illumination. DreamWorks and Sony seem interested in pleasing adults, with the latter even starting an adult animated division alongside illumination)
I learned that voters for the best animated category doesn’t require them to watch every nominee to vote. That should tell you how much respect the academy has for animated films
A thing schaffrilas doesn't mention is that for the first 5 years I believe, the folks who voted for best animated feature were people in the animation industry, which is how Spirited Away and Wallace & Gromit won back-to-back. Then the academy opened it to everybody else, which led to Frozen beating The Wind Rises ten years later.
@@SynGirl32 ah yes, pop culture taste trumps creativity
@@SynGirl32 the first years were a W
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 I'm even more infuriated because nonwithstanding the fact that it's animated, WInd Rises is exactly the kind of movie the Academy loves lol.
I watched that video too, we're now geniuses
My dad acts like this. He refuses to watch any animated movie because he has "already watched enough kids movies" in his life
Tie him up to a chair and force him to watch Spiderverse
@@incrediblesnn i will
Show him something like Sausage Party
Show him Akira.
My dad is the complete opposite....My dad loves most of the animated shows that I grew up watching, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Johnny Bravo, and Scooby Doo being a few. He says the best thing about animation is the voice acting and that live actors CANNOT compare to the talent voice actors have, and I totally agree 👌 😁
As much as I loved puss in boots, I really hope that Pinocchio wins just so that Guillermo can go up there and give his amazing speech about how animation is an art form and needs to be respected as much as the other nominees
Funnily enough, there was a round table with all the animated directors where they agreed to make a pact that whomever wins will stress animation is a medium, not genre.
@@axlorg89 wait rlly?, where can i read bout it
Source: bro trust me?
@@wheatboy6204 Literally check out the channel View Conference. It’s an hour livestream
If he said this he might get black listed…
It’s like Guillermo Del Toro said earlier: “Animation is cinema. Not a genre for kids”
I think we all (Especially those idiots from the Oscars) need to see animation like that. The way it’s supposed to be.
Mr Del Toro better say this again when his film wins best animated feature (Pinocchio)
Edit: HE DID!
@@cloudshines812 more like if
@@cloudshines812 i respect your opinion, but puss in boots 2
I’m sure that when Del Toro wins this year, he will let the Academy damn well know that animation should be treated with respect while they’re all seated in front of him.
If _Turning Red_ manages to win instead of this or _Puss In Boots: The Last Wish,_ then we riot.
You know, during the time when the Oscars respected animation, they actually had animated characters be there.
Bro imagine puss in boots at the oscars
GET THAT BOTTER BANNED
UA-cam SUCKS
#OscarsSoLiveAction
Do you know how much I’d sacrifice to see Puss in Boots himself at the Oscars
Wonder how much it cost to get them flown out
Funny how I recognize all of these "insignificant" animated movies instantly, yet I barely know any of the best picture nominees. That's how "culturally significant" they were.
Animation is an amazing medium.
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And even if all animation was just made for children, kid's media still deserves recognition. It's so tiring to hear people constantly put down something because it's made for kids, as if adult media isn't just as capable of putting out garbage crap.
Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated was probably targeted more towards kids, but I can guarantee you without even having seen Velma that it's more mature, gripping, funny, frightening, and respectful to its brand than Velma could ever dream
Also, making things for children does not always mean adults cannot enjoy them. The best children's movies are watchable and enjoyable by children and adults alike, and have hidden depths for adults
Supposed 'kid's media' is often times a lot more mature and sophisticated than 'adult's media'
@@tj-co9go The best movies will make you smile as a child and cry as an adult 👌
exactly. i think of media like Young Justice where while it’s marketed towards kids, it actually covers very mature topics
The biggest oopsie from the Academy was ignoring The lego Movie for best animated feature for having live actions elements, while giving Wall-E a pass
It's more for the fact that it's based on a toy line and they don't nominate those movies
Both are amazing tbh
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Toy Story?
Or how about how the academy claims Sonic The Hedgehog 2 is an animated film with a CGI Blue Hedgehog, while Avatar is a “live action” film despite being COMPLETELY CGI.
Is it because funny Hedgehog movie is for kids thus being animated?
And it's even worse because Marcel the Shell with Shoes On counted for this year
I'm still furious that the year Boss Baby and Ferdinand were nominated for Best Animated Feature, we didn't get a nomination for A Silent Voice. A life-changing movie for so many. Coco won that year, which was acceptable. But its crazy to me that the Animation category ignores anime almost every year.
Guillermo went up on stage and said “animation is cinema”. We did it Reddit.
I don't agree with Pinocchio winning but at least Del Toro used that moment to speak for animation.
Not the first time Guillermo was snubbed for an Oscar. Cronos, his first movie, was proposed for best foreign film and was rejected for nomination. The Oscars hates horror movies with passion, probably more than it does animation.
OOF this is so true, horror does not get its due at all 😢
We need an Award show that is better than the oscars
@@Extremezotako Yeah. I know fangoria does awards for horror movies and other award shows de recognize more broadly so something like all of those combined?
Nah, animation gets more hate from them. Remember, “Beauty and the Beast” lost the Best Picture prize to a horror film.
it’s so annoying how horror is seen as a lesser genre and the best movies of the genre are seen as not really horror. like ppl acting like hereditary or get out are only great in spite of being horror, not because they are great horror movies first and foremost
Just IMAGINE more animated horror films, fantasy adventures, drama etc. instead of cgi and green screens! And giving both voice actors and animators the wage and recognition they deserve!
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Indeed. I ran into this one chud who said that anime dub actors should NOT get recognition nor good pay purely for ideological reasons (read: said actors disagreeing with the one he wanks off too) so I wound up calling him a ‘bootlicker of the bourgeoisie’ which could be interpreted as ‘OK Boomer.’
@@blaziard683 go for it 😂
@@OffbeatAsh I did it
I’m more of a writer, but after reading this comment, I feel motivated to animate a horror film one day- no matter how long it might take me ^_^
What they're afraid of:
vampires: sunlight
superman: kryptonite
Oscars: animation
I was at a pub quiz today (we go there weekly with my friends) and one question was "Which was the first ever animation film to get a best picture oscar nomination". I watched this video literally yesterday and therefore instantly knew the answer that NO ONE else in our group of 10 people knew. Because of this one question, we won the entire quiz and got a 35€ gift card as the first price :D
Never would have guessed this was to happen, but thanks to you, it made my day!
Can we also talk about how odd it is that no acting nominations never went to a voice actor for an animated project?
I mean, Eddie Murphy was nominated for a BAFTA for Supporting Actor for Shrek, which is as close as it gets for now. I had said that the Oscars should add a voice actor category.
Also no documentary was ever nominated for Best Picture except for one (can't remember the name of it) that doesn't even count because it was year one of the Oscars and it was in the "Unique and Artistic Production" category that only existed that year.
This fr is odd. VA's are the unsung heros of our lives. Creating voices for characters we can recognize in seconds only for their work to never be officially celebrated by the academy. And now they're even being replaced by celebrities who usually aren't nearly as talented.
@@ukkimeepeatswaffles2493 I totally agree, I haven't watched the Oscars in about 2 years so I googled what are the awards for, what categories and such, when I saw there was no VA category it honestly annoyed me. VA's are incredibly talented, bringing to life that animated characters on either movies or TV shows. I recently started watch the 2018 remake of Watership Down and was in love with the voice actors, and how much emotion they can bring to a simple scene. There should totally be a category for VA's, the unsung hero's of animated movies!
Truth
There should be one for Bradley Cooper for Guardians of the Galaxy.
The Oscars never respected animation as a medium. Most votes seem to come from parents who said “I never seen it, but my kids love it so it’s probably good,” or “animation is for kids to enjoy and adults to endure.” When someone tried to make a speech about how animation needs more respect, they get drowned out because the elites don’t want to admit they’re doing anything wrong.
Someone did not watch the video
@@andrewheaney4874 I watched the video and still don't think it was "respected" in the grand scheme of things. 10 awards in 20 years for a medium that as exploded in formats, creativity, and box office sales? IDK.
Not the Oscars, but I remember reading somewhere that when The Brave Little Toaster was shown at the Sundance Film Festival in 1988, most of the judges considered it the best film presented that year but refused to give it the Grand Jury Award, believing that doing so would damage Sundance's reputation after giving such a prestigious award to an animated film.
The Brave Little Toaster was the first animated film to be shown at Sundance, by the way.
My parents think animation = cartoon so it's dumb
Boils my fucking blood ngl
Puss In Boots The Last Wish was easily one of the best movies I’ve seen in the last few years, and really transcended what kids animation could be. The topics and maturity felt almost akin to Studio Ghibli. The topics of fearing death or understanding the value of a life really gripped me, and the soundtrack is absolutely incredible.
That’s right, we’re going back to the FIRST Oscars to put Animated Films BACK on the menu.
I know this is a joke, and I know this is a late response, but...
The very first Oscars ceremony *predates* Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the first animated feature film, by about 10 years. There wouldn't be any films to put on the menu for about 10 years.
Plus, as said in the video, Snow White, Pinocchio, Bambi, etc. all got nominations in the music categories.
I find this especially upsetting in Pinocchio’s case because Guillermo Del Tero was very, very passionate about making this film a reality only for it to barely be recognised by award shows just because it is ‘animated’.
He probably expected it. Plus if Del Tero created this movie with passion then it should matter to him whether it wins or not.
I'm sure he knew it would happen, because he was very vocal about animation being a medium, not a genre for kids. But he, along with Puss in Boots 2, definitely deserved much better
Just to confirm, If they give Turning Red the best animated feature award where is our Riot meeting point? No offense to that movie but it has to go to either Pinnochio, Puss in Boots 2 or Marcel, if they give it to Turning Red it's a sign the Oscars are blatanly playing favorites with Pixar.
@@Prototype-357 yess i loved turning red but the other nominations are just better
I'm actually sad Guillermo Del Tero's Pinocchio and Puss in Boots were relesed in the same year. The both deserve Oscar so bad.
According to TV Tropes, celebs were poking fun at Beauty and the Beast being nominated for best picture; so it seems animation has ALWAYS been (unfairly) disrespected… 😢
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Wow. They need to just wait until animation makes a story better than anything any celeb in live action could
The fact that the Disney remake actresses disrespected animation last year was the biggest disrespect
I will never understand how Baby Boss won animation of the Year when A Silent Voice was a nominee
Actually, "Coco" won that year
Boss baby didn’t win, it was nominated
I REALLY like the point you made about Illumination. Like, we all hate it when Hollywood executives or The Oscars believe that animation is only for children, but when some of the highest grossing animated movies of all itme come from a studio that mostly puts out movies only for children without anything special, you can kinda see why that stigma has stayed.
I'm just hoping that the academy learns that not all animation is just for kids, and even when children are the demographic, that doesn't mean it can't be something special
Emphasis on the last part. Most adult-targeted animation I’ve seen is worse than kids animation because they think being for adults means being as vulgar and inappropriate as possible
@@kingfelix1534 And this is really only a problem in the US
@@kingfelix1534 That's so true, if anything, adding too much swearing and drug/sex jokes will only make something look more juvenile, not less.
@@blondbraid7986 *cough cough Sausage Party*
The fact that Boss Baby and Ferdinand got nominated over gems like The Silent Voice and Your name still haunts me years later.
Ferdinand was good, boss baby was yikes
Your Name was eligible for the previous year (and it should have been nominated that year), but I agree. The Lego Batman Movie should have been nominated in 2018 over Boss Baby. Hell, if they wanted a Dreamworks film in the lineup, Captain Underpants was RIGHT THERE!
There's that one saying about how many more movies exist if people can get over subtitles, it's true there. Spirited Away had John Lassiter backing the dub in collaboration with Miyazaki if I recall right.
Silent Voice and Your Name are phenomenal but I feel the Academy would have cared if there was a name behind it they know or a dub.
tbh Your Name was overrated, i dont get the hype. It's not that great. It is a fine movie.
@@mr.monkey354 over the silent voice?
Let's go further. Why don't voice actors get nominated? Why don't animated films put in for sound design, sound mixing, editing, visuals, screenwriting, all the pieces that make a film a film? They only ever do best animated feature or best score.
That isn't even the Oscars disrespecting animation. That's the STUDIO disrespecting animation. It's telling anyone who worked on it "hey we only think it's got a shot in two categories." They're telling the crew "hey we don't think what you did was good enough to even be nominated in this category." When films like How to Train Your Dragon have incredible sound mixing, films like Puss in Boots the Last Wish has incredible visuals, and films like The Lion King have incredible voice acting.
It starts and ends with Hollywood as a whole. The Oscars are only part of the problem. Hollywood still sees animation as "for kids". When most animated movies are able to tackle mature themes better than most "adult movies." Sure there are gonna be movies that cater to younger audiences. But by that argument, so do some live action movies. Why punish one medium when another gets away with pulling the same stunts every once in a while? Because they don't understand it. They don't understand that with animation, your ability to reach out and tell ANY story is truly limitless.
Voice actors gets recognized? People who watches dub are going to start sweating
if sound design was a highly recognized thing Polar Express would be top #1
@Unknown Account hell isn’t real
In hindsight, I realize Jeremey Irons absolutely deserved a nomination for The Lion King.
@@donian544 I think it goes deeper than that. I think that animation is on the rise in popularity, and they are worried about animation becoming more popular
Animation and horror are always overlooked by the Academy. It's extremely infuriating
Last night Dwayne Johnson have a good speech on how animation is another format of sophisticated storytelling. I hope everyone got that message
Let us not forget that The Academy nominated The Boss Baby over A Silent Voice.
I repeat, A Silent Voice, one of the most emotionally driven films of the decade that dove into topics like bullying, suicide, and forgiveness, as well as including one of the most beautiful soundtracks I have ever heard, was pushed aside for the FUCKING BOSS BABY
EXACTLY, THANKYOU. I was looking for someone to say this.
A Silent Voice and Lego Batman were WAY more deserving than Boss Baby and Ferdinand. 🙄
I never forget that.
@@Little1Cave for Lego batman's exclusion it was both a superhero and animated movie so there was little chance either way, but it could've been worse, they could've chosen the Ninjago movie over Lego batman
@@Little1Cave The lego series is genuinely one of the most surpringly solid movie series ever (ok they had that one less than average ninja movie but the point still stands for everything else. The fact that they have not gotten a single nod besides best original song is mindblowing.
Can we talk about how if animation is gonna be isolated, there needs to be multiple animation dedicated categories? it's so diverse and needs to be recognised as such, i.e., best 2-d, best 3-d, digital, stop motion, etc
Box trolls would have gotten stop motion if it existed
I sometimes think about whether the academy should split it into “best animated” and “best childrens film” but knowing the academy I think that might make it worse
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Mocap people can get nominated but not cartoon voice actors
I was honestly shocked that Coco didn't get more nominations. I mean hot damn! The animation was stunning and world was gorgeously crafted and they even referenced Frida Kahlo, an inspirational Mexican painter who inspired an entire generation (And still inspires me) . Also I'm not sure if it was done purposefully but the last name of Frida Kahlo's Spouse is Rivera, which is the same last name Miguel's family has. Just saying there was a lot of potential when it came to possible categories for Coco to me nominated for.
But the Boss Baby was sooooooioooiopiooo AMAZING that Coco looks like shit! Kill me
Only the calarts style don't get more nominations
Honestly I think animation just needs to get it’s own award show. It’s practically a different medium from live action, and deserves to be respected.
Agreed.
Annie awards exist
I beg to differ on animation being very different from live action. A lot of "live action" movies are mostly 3d animations barring the actors... somewhat. A true live action movie would be actors with practical effects.
Not a good idea. If animation is to be recognized as a respectable medium, it needs to compete with live action for awards. All shoving animation to their own award show will do is confirm to the Oscars, and eventually much the public, that animation is just a silly genre for children and a niche group of nerds who are different from weeaboos, meaning its image will be several times worse than now.
I think a few exist but aren't as big as the Oscars or other film awards
This video made me realize how infuriated I am that Spiderverse got no recognition. Not for the visuals? Not for the score? NOT FOR THE DIRECTOR? This is my new personal vendetta
Because it sucked.
Same here
@@ggggg77273No it didn’t you buffering buffoon!
@@ggggg77273 ok you have got to be trolling
Same for me. There's NO WAY Spiderverse didn't even get a NOMINATION in VISUAL cathegories. You can argue all you want about the plot and things like these but that movie was visually breathtaking and definitely groundbreaking
For whatever reason whenever I watch a Schaffrillas video I can’t help but imagine Tamatoa just forcing Moana to listen to him rant about movies 😂
Moana: "Can i go now--"
Schaff: "No, you (dolphin) idiot! We're not finished with the review yet"!
@@quickman2663 "Before I let you go first we need to speak about our sponsor of tonight's video, SquareSpace."
That's actually what Tamatoa's been doing inside his cave before and after Moana found him, just ranting and reviewing movies. And promoting SquareSpace
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Lol, I think I have watched him so much, that I can kinda see it... Is there something wrong with me, guys?):
The problem with these awards (and I am going off solely personal experience) is that 80% of any winner in any category is completely forgotten in a year or two, yet movies like Beauty and the Beast are never forgotten. I could not tell you a single winner of any Oscar, partly because I do not care for movies that much, but also because the few I have watched, I've found to be sligthly interesting, and then nothing more - forgotten in a week, or maybe a month.
True like most acad winners are shortly forgotten later on (except titanic and shrek) but that’s the effect when the academy is shit, less views less recognition
Something I miss about the early 00’s-90’s was the involvement of animation and characters in media. I miss commercials that had 2D characters reviewing products or things such as the Oscar’s and how they had animated the characters celebrating/interacting with the world. One of my favorite animations was 3D projections of the Gorillaz cast on one of their concerts. You just don’t see things like that anymore
Not to mention having animated characters show up at the Oscars or any other award show created a special illusion that makes it seem like they’re actual celebrities and not just fictional animated characters voiced by professional voice actors or celebrities.
Also cartoon channels were more passionate. Cartoon Network showed their characters interacting together during commercial breaks
@@grayshigami6797 yes they were
We no longer have cable (I mean, who does nowadays), but in my country I am pretty sure they are still doing the animated hamster commercials but they're the only one I remember who do so. The Netherlands has this supermarket chain called the Albert Hein, and our language has this word, 'hamsteren' which refers to the act of hoarding food and has its origins in animals hoarding food for winter hybernation. Albert Hein picked it as their slogan, and the hamster as their mascot.
I feel traumatized watching calarts style
Note that in 2017, "A Silent Voice", which happens to be one of the most heart shattering, emotional anime films I have ever experienced (and critically acclaimed as well), was selected as an entry for Best Animated Feature. And it wasn't even accepted as a nominee. Instead, the absolute travesty called "The Boss Baby" was nominated.
Even till this day, it's still crazy that they chose boss baby to be nominated over a silent voice
It's like they were declaring war on Japan or something.
Boss Baby > A Silent Voice tbh
@@Stevey2578 weak bait
@@Stevey2578 must have felt real nice when you finally graduated from kindergarten and had the mental capacity to write a comment approving of "The Boss Baby".
My favorite film of all time is A Silent Voice. The fact that it was not only not nominated for best picture, but not even best animation that year when The Boss baby and Ferdinand were really irks me.
Good to see some clips from _Rango_ in there. I can't believe a film that spectacularly good can be so little known or acknowledged.
I feel like just with Rotten Tomatoes, people realized that Internet recognition was waaaay more valuable than what critics/academy have to say.
Especially since it's been known that Rotten tomatoes tweak their scores to give certain movies more favorable reviews
@@ImmaLittlePip source? I m just curious
Nah fam, the rotten tomatoes Audience score is ass, it’s always either the worst thing ever or the best thing ever, and what’s worse is the review bombing they pull
Rotten Tomatoes is garbage
@@games_on_phone89 I rather take audience scores over bought and payed for "Official critic" scores
Animators deserve more respect because animation is such a time consuming process like 10 mins could take 1-4 months which is insane.
Can confirm
Animation is worked and reworked over and over until the best result is made. Depending on the movie, the technique is different, from pose to pose, to mocap, to straight ahead animation, and also from realistic to extremly cartoony animation, animation is different for every movie.
Some people think that it's just wasting time in front of a computer just clicking a few buttons, but even if you are extremely skilled, there are TONS of little details you need to add, might be the hands, the clothes, the manoeurisms of a character, the smear frames, and not for getting the 12 principles of animation, calling it lazy is greatly underestimating the work that goes in every scene, every frame. I think Spider-Verse is one of the best proof of that.
Hearing someone recognizing the work put into animation makes me really happy (as a student in 3D animation)
(sorry for the typo mistakes, english isn't my first language)
@@TheAngelCreator2009 I’m more than willing to believe that some of the same people who think animation is “just clicking a few buttons” can barely sit through a whole 1 minute TikTok video, let alone draw the exact same character 15 times for one second of animation.
EXACTLY!!!, I have started to try my hand at animating and just animating a freaking 1 minute animation is over 100 or so frames and HOURS of work, that doesn’t even take into account thinking about what should the animation be? What character(s) then sketching, lining, coloring etc. animation is not just something to take for granted, look at the old Disney movies: Snow White, Lion King, Brother Bear etc. it took these people months if not years of HAND DRAWN ANIMATION, I looked it up and it turns out Brother Bear is Disney’s first hand drawn movie. Imagine how long it took them because it was a new thing back when it came out, like holy crap! I just think animation should get more recognition.
LOL I've been working on one minute for longer than that.
True I believe monsters university took 2 years just to render or 29 hours for a single frame
I also think a massive reason for the lack of animated love in recent years is the change in voting in the animated feature category. Because up until the 2015 Oscars, only people that worked in the animated genre got to vote here, which made it so that other voters had to go to the bigger categories to give it recognition. That was until they snubbed The Lego Movie and outrage ensued across the industry (I would recommend looking into this, it's a pretty interesting story about biased voters and such), that they made the change to let any member vote for Animated Feature. Now voters probably just pick whatever their kids like and think: "Well they got their glory."
I feel like Del Torro’s Pinocchio winning Best Animated Feature might have an impact towards the future of animated features
The disrespect for animation in general is insane. Not just the Oscars. As someone who considers it superior over live action it always makes me mad.
I think to consider animation superior to live action is a bit silly, no medium is superior to the other there’s things that live action and animation can do and things they can’t
I think that Live action and Animation shouldn't be compared like that, it's all subjective
Animation does have weaknesses that live action doesn’t. You are doing what they do to animation.
Tribalism between mediums is an objectively idiotic stance. Every medium has its own benefits and debenefits towards its use.
Animation excels in exaggeration
Literature excels in imagination
Live action excels in action
Comics/Manga excels in all 3 (to varying results)
Radio
Documentaries excel in historical precedence
@@The_True_Mx_Pink L for not mentioning videogames
When did the Oscars *start* respecting animation?
When Shrek won
yes
That's what I was asking
@John (Alpha male) :/
HAHAHA 🤣
If the Oscars has a “Lifetime Achievement Award “ or equivalent I’d like to see Hayao Miyazaki receive an Oscar for how amazing Ghibli is/was for so long under him
That'd be cool.
And I can say the same with Erica Mendez/Erica Micah Mendez too aka our next Generation's Tara Strong as well, she is the Mexican-American Tara Strong.
He did receive an Honorary Award in 2014
I am FURIOUS that Puss In Boots 2 didn’t get a “best original song” nomination for Who Is Your Favorite Fearless Hero. It is legit one of the best and most underrated songs I’ve ever heard, and I hate how nobody talks about it.
can you guess why nobody talks about it
@@nirsufa Probably because they're still thinking of an answer
I'm gonna be honest I completely disagree. I found that sound to be a little annoying in the movie, I just didn't find it all that fun. That being said there's plenty of animated movies with gorgeous songs that get ignored... But I also am disappointed that when Animated movies are considered, they're almost always judged by their music and not the script writing or direction or acting.
"The Last Wish" deserves a Best Screenplay nomination. Absolutely.
How it balanced so many characters and themes in 100 minutes is definitely recognition worthy.
@@cassielcruzchavolla809 agreed
Adapted Screenplay, Its a sequel 😅
Correct
Animation is a window into a world that cannot be recreated in real life because of how stunningly beautiful it can be. There are hundreds of different styles of animation and thousands of stories you can tell with it, making it one of the broadest mediums to exist, yet the Oscars see it as a thing that you put on the TV solely to entertain kids.
No it isnt
"Can't be recreated"
Disney remakes: Am I a joke to you?
me: YA
@@brysonupchurch5722 Can you explain more? Leaving three words isn't enough.
@@falcon_arkaig that’s not the clip I was looking for, looking back I probably should’ve typed who I was referring too
Welp, this year's Oscars proved your points, with Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse and The Boy and the Heron not getting any nominations outside of Animated Feature. Both should have been nominated for Score, and Spider-Verse should have been nominated for Visual Effects as well.
The fact that Indiana Jones 5 is nominated over either score is genuinely infuriating.
Something to remember about the Academy is that they are heavily biased against smaller studios, foreign films and artistic productions. Usually they nominate big budjet major studio films that are somewhat better made and artistic, but not actually go deeper into more niche films
I am so sad about this. Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio was full of emotion and good songs, they weren’t kidding when they said it was a personal passion of his.
It definitely deserves to be at least mentioned in other categories
I didn't really like the movie, but visually it was awesome to watch
Dude i sobbed at Pinnochio so hard
haruka pfp
I literally felt my stomach churn when I saw the bomb dropping on the church, killing the boy who wanted a pinecone. I also don't get why they call it "childish" when it has topics of grief and drinking...
@@spontaneouslycombusted7664same
I swear I will live to see a day when the “best animated feature” award isn’t just a category where the academy can shove in kids movies to “please” animated movie enjoyers. And when it’s actually looked upon as an award with as much prestige as best direction or best soundtrack.
Granted
Now youre immortal
@@tono_lagos8765 i love how they quietly edited it to saw 'i swear' instead of 'i wish'
As long as people keep refering to animated movies as "kids movies", you will not see the medium get any respect.
Wait 30 years until (hopefully) the 50+ year olds have retired or died, and then hope people who respect animation a little more (and also maybe aren't in cahoots with other people in the field) replace them.
Can’t believe they made Willow Smith say animation is just for kids. She wrote a whole song dedicated to Marceline from Adventure Time, Willow knows animation isn’t just for kids. They made her say that. They just have, Willow would never.
Denial is but the first step to redemption, or something like that I don't know
That is not Willow Smith.
That's Halle Bailey.
I definitely do put a lot of it to Illumination. Pixar, Disney, and even Dreamworks have always been great at making films which are aimed toward kids but are fantastic for all ages. Illumination kinda felt like it lowered the bar a lot, pushing it more into that "just for kids" category. But like you said, there are still FANTASTIC animated films being made and it sucks that the academy don't pay more attention to them. Puss in Boots blasted its way into my top movies of all time list, I wish it got more recognition
Its honestly funny. Some of my "film loving" friends passed up on Spiderverse just because it was animated. When we all watched it at a friend's house, they were all blown away by its visuals, screenplay, storytelling. And it was crazy how they can't wrap their head around an animated movie doing things that are only possible in an animated movie. 😂
It was like watching children discover a religion.
I honestly prefer animated movies because I think there's more possible with animation than real life. I'm Dutch but the movie unfortunately isn't available on Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime, etc. I just discovered there is ONE medium I can watch it, so I might go check it out since I've wanted to watch it for so long.
I honestly think that superhero movies are better off animated instead of live action. The original comics were usually over the top and very stylized so animation is a much better way to convey that
I personally wouldn't compare an artistic medium to child abuse, but that's just me
@@ezzyelder3385 Wait, where'd that come from?
@@holyroman6541 They consider children finding a religion as "Child abuse" apparently, must have had some bad experience about that or something
Who's here after the Spiderverse and Heron snubs outside of Best Animated Feature.
Me :(((
Animation was NEVER respected by Hollywood. (The 90s being the only exception as you mentioned)
This was the reason why Disney never got an Oscar/Academy Award until Mary Poppins and that was a Live Action film with a small 2D Animated segment.
Only Japan and France earn respect for at least acknowledging their Animation companies to have creative freedom and not be lumped in with the stigma of Animation being only for kids.
I don't know if you've ever read the book Shrek is based off of but let me just say I found the movie a really big improvement... the fact that Shrek got nominated for 'best adapted screenplay' was really well deserved, it's a great script and they did a good job taking a mediocre kids books and making it into a great film.
Fun Fact: Even William Steig, the author of the book, enjoyed the film adaptation unlike most authors who have a tendency to hate the film versions of their book. So you know Shrek’s script is great even when it gets the approval of the original author.
So here's a fun fact regarding the Academy's views on animation:
Back in the '60s, Academy president Gregory Peck (best known for playing Atticus Finch in "To Kill A Mockingbird") pushed hard for the inclusion of animated films in the Best Picture category. In particular, he argued heavily in favour of Disney's "The Jungle Book" being nominated in its year, and as a result of that not happening, he ended up resigning from his president position and leaving the Academy.
Damn that was bizarre, he was trying to do the right thing that animation indeed deserves recognition and dissing against the salty Academy Awards elites!
It really goes to show that the Oscars were always against the medium of Animation from the very beginning, even during Walt Disney’s timeline when he made his animated films. :/
Just like atticus finch, he pushed for equal respect and regard, but in the end it was for naught.
All the way to the beginning when Walt even with that unique descending Oscar felt snubbed that Snow White was sidelined over possibly winning the best picture category
Hey, it's Maverick! Sup
Funny how respected people like Gregory Peck and Guillermo del Toro clearly adore (adored in Peck's case) the medium of animation and yet other people even scoff what they say.
Remember when Demon Slayer didn't even get nominated despite being the highest grossing movie of 2020? Good times...
Box office numbers have nothing to do with quality
@@locomotivetrainstation6053 Let's not pretend Hollywood made anything good that year.
@@uriyahndoesstuff9982Let’s not pretend Hollywood made anything in 2020
Spiderverse -- the moment I saw it, I knew it wasn't like anything else I've ever seen before. The style was something I realized had been missing from animation for so long - the comic incorporation too was so good! The visual style alone definitely deserved a best picture, screen play, visual effects like oh my god the action and perspectives were insane. The academy really needs to wake tf up.
As someone who is trying to go into the animation industry, I really hope animation gets respect it deserves. I genuinely think animation has the potential to be way more emotionally powerful than live action films.
Hope you ain't working for disney who would limit your potential
good luck!
I 100% agree because the options for animation are almost limitless, whereas live action has to work in the restraints of our reality (definitely not hating on live action movies tho)
Best of luck to you and i completely agree. No live-action movie has come anywhere close to breaking me down as thoroughly as animationm Plus the freedom of the medium allows for much more emotional messaging.
I agree
I would do anything to see stop motion masterpieces make a comeback.
I hope they do. Unfortunately tho it’s becoming a dying art form due to how long it takes to produce those masterpieces. I think for del toro it took about 8 years to make that.
Oh, absolutely. Stop Motion is a gorgeous art form & it's sad that it's so rare these days. I don't think iconic stop motion movies would have the same appeal if they were done in 2D animation, digital 3D animation, etc. With more stylized animation becoming more popular (Puss In Boots; The Last Wish, Into The Spiderverse, Arcane, and more), I think there's a chance for stop motion to make a comeback
I believe Laika is cooking up something big soon, us stop motion fans will be validated this decade mark my words
Stop Motion is absolutely beautiful, shame people choose generic CGI over insanely detailed masterpieces
I mean... We have Guilhermo Del Toro's Pinnochio. That's something!
I find it hilarious the Disney was not only beaten at the oscars, but also by a Pinocchio movie that they didn’t make.
That is the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.
It ISN'T funny to me. It's just downright sad. I'm a big Disney fan and I'm greatly saddened that the Oscars beaten Disney. But hopefully, Disney will get back on top again if they get things changed.
@@annien.1727 bro Disney has been shit for like the last decade.
They’ve only made like 2 or 3 good movies in the last 6 years.
They ruined Star Wars, the MCH is on a downward spiral after phase 3, Wish sucked, Lightyear sucked.
I don’t see how anyone can route for this company? I’d say just put it out of its misery.
@thatrandomredengine9430 🙄 Now ain't that a big stretch? What a JOKE! I say, DON'T put Disney out of its misery!😡 You listen up, pal. Yours truly here is going to get a job at Disney and she's going to do everything in her power to help Disney get back on its feet!
You think I'm joking? You think, "No way THAT'S ever gonna happen." Well, let me tell you, buddy, I'm 100% serious about what I said. And you'd better not doubt my words either because I'm planning to achieve my goal, no matter what anyone else says or does!😡
Just you wait and watch! I'll create glorious, fantastic animated masterpieces that will be sure-fire blockbusters!✊️
@@annien.1727 Gee, I never thought about it like that!
Maybe Bob Iger himself should give you a Medal of Honor and make you HIS BOSS instead! You could make the next Spider-Verse! You could make the Puss in Boots! You could make Disney a magnum opus 10 TIMES better than Lion King!
What a sick joke 😂
@ndomredengine9430 😡😡😡It's NOT something to laugh about, pal! Does it even look like I'm joking? I'm NOT!😡
It's NOT a sick joke, either! I told you, I am 100% SERIOUS about what I said! So shut up and watch! I WILL get Disney back on top, and I WILL create beautifully animated masterpieces that will astound you!
Seeing this video made me remember how disappointed I was that Spiderverse did not get no recognition. Animation is an Amazing and Beautiful Medium, it deserves so much more recognition and more respect. And I really think that Puss in Boots: The Last Wish deserves to win the Oscar.
Will you be alright if Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio wins the Best Animated Feature Oscar?
@@hunterolaughlin sure, but it winning would be a bit of a reach, seeing as its not a disney, pixar or dreamworks film. and we know how the academy treats lesser known studios that make animated movies.
I feel the same way, both movies were animated BEAUTIFULLY and should get recognition for it. I can't even imagine how long it took to produce that type of animation, it looks GOREGOUS and has a type of.. comic book style during the action scenes that just *chefs kiss*
Also replying to Hunter O'Laughlin: I also think that this movie should win an Oscar I think I watched a video on how it was animated and it blew me away that not only did they use stop-motion but also 3-d printed parts, and it took 2 AND A HALF YEARS TO MAKE!? This movie should totally win an Oscar!
I wish GDT’s Pinocchio and Puss in Boots could both win. I love them both so much and it sucks that this is their only category so one (or both) will walk away with nothing.
@@storyphile4518 I agree, both are amazing in terms of storyline, animation, VA and just everything! it would be amazing if both could win even though it isn't possible it would be amazing if it was
Kudos to the Annie Awards for being created specifically to address the lack of attention on the awards circuit for animated works. Also the big awards shows should implement a "Best Voiceover, Motion Capture or Puppetry Performance" category because to this day, Eddie Murphy's BAFTA nomination for Shrek is the only major voice acting nomination of its kind.
holy crap I didn't know Eddie Murphy won a BAFTA for Shrek (well deserved might I add). And OMG YES a "Best Voiceover, Motion Capture or Puppetry Performance" category would be fucking awesome! And omggg yes the Annie Awards!
I feel like we'd want to give those separate awards just because of how wildly different each of those skill sets is. Also one for stunt work!
@@Orson_Welp A stunts Oscar would be awesome. I heard some radio hosts recently discuss how the stunt performers from Top Gun Maverick should have been honored by the Academy because they had the cameras with them during the flight scenes
I'm hopeful Guillermo Totoro's speech might be the chance for some needed recognition next year, and I already have my bet: Across the Spiderverse nominee for Best Picture.
cant wait for us all to be wrong and they give it to something stupid
Can’t wait for a Disney movie to beat out spider verse if both go to best animated picture
(Sarcasm)
One thing I will never get over is that The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, literally the most artistically rich film I have ever seen, was given nothing more than a nomination for best animated feature. Which it lost. To Big Hero 6. What. The actual fuck.
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish winning the Oscar should be a no-brainer. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind if Guillermo del Toro's Pinnocchio or Marcel the Shell with Shoes On end up winning the award, those are two unique animated films as well.
It would be so poetic for the Academy to give the award to Pinocchio (you know, the film that's about complex father-son relationships, anti-fascism, and the burden of immortality) the year after they openly mocked the medium as being just for kids
I hope Puss in Boots win 👍
I’d be fine if Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio lost Best Animated Feature to Puss in Boots: The Last Wish just as long as Pixar doesn’t snag their 12th Best Animated Feature Oscar.
Ngl I'd love for Turning Red to win just to show Disney how fuckin stupid they were by trying to screw it over
I swear to god if Turning Red gets the award, I'm going to literally firebomb Disneyworld.
I just noticed that the only love the Oscars showed towards Dreamworks was with Shrek.
I find it baffling that Kung Fu Panda and Dragon Trainer weren’t even considered by the Oscars.
Or Kung Fu Panda 2 cause more people went to see the second Hangover movie instead and look how that movie turned out.
Unfortunately Dreamworks is like the most unlucky studio ever cause they release their best work the same year as Pixar and Disney's best works so they can never get the actual win besides Shrek and Wallace & Gromit (Disney wasn't even in contention for that one) For example, Shrek 2 lost to the Incredibles, Kung Fu Panda lost to Wall-E, and HTTYD and Megamind had absolutely no shot aganst Toy Story's Best Picture nomination. Sucks that Dreamworks never got the best picture nod cause Puss in Boots 2 really deserved the shot.
@@khntou4178 true but this year disney and pixar definitely didn’t make their best.
They did recognize boss baby... (Even though that wasn't really deserved)
@@khntou4178 That was true in the 2000s, but HTTYD 2 losing to Big Hero 6? HTTYD 3 losing to Toy Story 4? Kung Fu Panda 3 not even getting nominated? I feel like by the time the 2010s came around the Oscar voters had just fully gone into "vote for whatever Disney/Pixar film my kids/grandkids watched" mode.
I've been watching your videos for a few years now, and for some reason, every time you speak honestly and passionately about animation brings me to tears. It helps put my own love for the medium in ways that I couldn't quite put it in, and it's always just so humbling to see how beautiful and touching animated films bring us. Thank you for showing us your passion for the medium after all these years.
I NEED Dreamworks to get their first best animated award in almost 20 years
Agreed! I hope Peak In Boots wins the award
It will never not infuriate me that the HTTYD trilogy has no Oscar’s. 2 and 3 should won that year but Nooooooo they have to give it to a Disney/Pixar movie. I swear to god if Turning Red wins Best Animated Feature there is some serious rigging going on.
Agreed, and Spider-Verse 2 needs to win next year as well
@@taylorsly2392 Soo true HTTYD not winning any oscar is just insane
Also HTTYD 1 not winning best score is just a crime
@@pjdixon6199 You can't say if a movie should win if it isn't out yet
for all we now it will be shit
Honestly, who ever wins the Oscar for Best Animated Feature, I hope they make a statement towards Hollywood for the mistreatment of animation at the Oscars.
I have a feeling Guillermo Del Toro is about to make THAT statement.
Well since the Oscar is 99% going to Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio, GDT will *BLAST* the Academy for their disdain towards animation. He gave an excellent speech when he won the Golden Globe in this category, calling animation a medium not a genre. I have no doubt he'll give an even greater speech here.
Honestly, the only thing I'll be upset if it wins this year is Sea Beast because Netflix put pretty much nothing into its marketing campaign. I'm pretty much on board with any of the other nominees winning
Not direct, of course, or they'll probably be banned, but a statement about Hollywood in general on that.
I too hope GDT includes a reprimand in his speech
10 months later nothing changed
If it's not a sappy documentary or a biopic then it doesn't matter to the Oscars. Animation isn't the only thing that gets ignored. Horror, despite being home to many of the most iconic films in culture, has been forever overlooked by the Oscars.
Closest they get is psych thriller/horror contenders usually, like Silence of the Lambs
_CoughcoughHereditarycough_
The problem is that great documentaries and biopics have been animated before but they still lose to whatever Pixar shat out that year. All because they just vote whatever their kids watched that year.
@@mggardiner4066 speaking of which, The Menu falls into this category and is up for several nominations this year
Yeah the academy has never had any respect for horror. pretty ridiculous that NOPE didn’t get a nomination for best sound
The disrespect for animation is incredibly disgusting. I hate to see Hollywood saying that it's "just for kids" when these movies actually does mature stuff in the most amazing way possible. Like those actors, special effects, the music, everything about them just needs other nominations as well and deserves to be loved and at its praise
I’m here after seeing the Oscar’s snub spiderverse for original score
I've never really cared about the oscars, so this was an interesting analysis! I feel like as time passes, animation is slowly creeping into people's (and I mean older people's) minds as legit entertainment worthy of awards. Both eastern and western animated shows have dominated the internet sphere for decades, and that can't be ignored forever.
It boggles my mind how little the people behind the Oscars understand animation. How in the world do these people nominate something like THE BOSS BABY for best animated feature and yet don't even acknowledge beautiful movies like A Silent Voice and Your Name.
I will never get over that nomination a silent voice deserved to at least AT LEAST be nominated
Your Name was eligible the previous year, and A Silent Voice didn’t even try to campaign (which is a whole other can of worms, but I digress).
I just watched Puss in Boots: The last wish yesterday and I’m honestly still blown away by how amazing the animation was, and especially how in the scenes were Puss was retired and had a beard animated slower and choppier, while the scenes where he does not have a beard and he is no longer retired are smooth and graceful suggesting how he gets his skill back. Still questioning how it’s not in any other talks as well because the story was amazing.
I recommended it to a friend and he was like "I turned it off after 15 minutes because the animation lagged or something".
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Parteipuss in boots: the last wish is the jazz of animation
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei Bruh
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei damn bro is missing out fr
@@crediblesalamander8056 ya like jazz?
.....I'm so sorry I had to.
Once again, not a single animated film got a single nomination outside of Animated Feature, not even Spiderverse
One thing I just thought up...one if the interesting things about golden age Pixar was that their films often (not always) focused on older coded main charachters (Bob, Marlin, and Carl were all married at one point). Meanwhile, much of Pixar recent success (Inside Out, Coco, Luca, Turning Red) has come with teenaged leads.
Animation is an art form that deserves to be respected by everyone. Tons of my favorite movies and TV shows happen to be animated, both adult and for kids. It’s a medium that takes so much talent from storyboarding to writing to character design to voice acting. Having the snooty Oscars say stuff like “it’s for babies” makes me so angry.
I mean, i kinda get it since most of the most famous animated movies are for kids, ejem m i n i o n s ejem.
@Deadpool. Idiot
@@lopezgonzalezfrancisco4731 well Disney is trying to put racism , LGBTQ , and all the other mess into supposedly "kids movies"
I think it's not just that Hollywood is disrespecting animation, they're disrespecting animators and effects artists in general. More and more studios and directors seem to think that any form of animation or effects are cheap, or low effort, when the animators and effects artists themselves work horrendous hours with tighter deadlines than most and barely any pay. My worry is that by denigrating animation as a medium in such prominent and prestigious spotlights, they can keep this cycle of abuse towards animators going, making people within the film industry (or prospective film industry) think that animation is inherently low quality so that animated films will continue to be made cheaper, but that's just my two cents
You're absolutely right though. It's criminal how animators are treated, and how many jobs end up being outsourced to foreign studios
also the way those same studios (cough disney) can just advertise their way into a category they perceive as more "prestigious" for no reason while dismissing the actual effort of the actual crew who worked on it. yes, im subtweeting the lion king 2019. it never in a million years should've received a best VFX nom given the current state of animation at the oscars.
all of their press about their tech that made it """"not technically an animated film""" are just describing a bunch of pretty standard practices within most animated features these days, and if anything, i wish they used their industry weight to promote and push for the reimagining of the animated feature category as opposed to trying to say "well, actually, OUR movie is the exception- here is why WE deserved to break out of the Animated Feature category"
@fyoshbowl, wait...when the animators and effects artists work horrendous hours? You talking about Japan? Because animators in the U.S. rarely have to deal with that. Japan on the other hand is an entirely different beast, and they dont respect animators as much as people think.
@@crfstewarje most of the effects artists on avatar shape of water were payed $10/hour, and most vfx artists know to stay far away from Disney for their working conditions and deadlines. As shaff has pointed out as well with Disney, may stories don't even get the chance to be finished before being rushed in to animation. Now, Japan is far worse, like waaaaay worse, but they're a really low bar, almost any animation industry will be more humane than Japan, but that doesn't mean ours is any good
One word on that statement
Cats
I wish I could like this video twice. I love when your videos are more historic and educational. They're so heart warming to me as an animator.
Off topic but there should be a genre for best animal in live movies because the amount of work and stress they go through is enough to recognize
Every time I revisit Toy Story I'm amazed by how tight and funny the script is. Definitely deserving of that recognition.
A shame that Joss Whedon had a hand in it, but other than that, totally deserving.
The movie never fails to make me laugh 😂
@@Gemnist98 what did he do
@@arissamazumder script or dialogues.
Back in the 60’s when Gregory Peck was President of the Academy, he tried really hard to get an animated film nominated for Best Picture, especially The Jungle Book, but the other members rejected that idea. It’s sad how little things have changed since then, even though we did get a few animated Best Picture noms
damn now i respect Gregory Peck even more
Things have changed, the thing that hasn't changed is the boomers that run the academy awards and their shitty taste
Holy shit, Gregory Peck really was an absolutely incredible chad
@@thespoderjedi8079 I’m always cautious and ready to hear something terrible about celebrities who seem like good people, especially when that Celeb is from the 60s or earlier, but I feel Gregory Peck may have actually been a cool guy.
The freeze frames of Tomatoa (spelling? Idk) are amazing. Love it
Pinocchio not getting the respect it deserves is truly infuriating. It was a labor of love from the animators the voice actors the writers and Del Toro himself.
It won an academy award though and thats why he told told off the academy that animation is cinema. He got the well deserved oscar
I know the win normally goes to Disney but I think Del Toro’s Pinocchio or Puss In Boots 2 have way better shots at winning then Turning Red does
If Turning Red wins I'm turning the judges red.
I agree. Both Puss in Boots and Toro's Pinocchio were absolutely phenomenal movies and we need to get the respect they deserve
why don't you turn them purple instead by choking them lol
@@hassassinator8858 And I'll release Linda "The Lavender One" Mitchell on them. I should have done that last year you know.
We can hope.
I'll never forgive the Academy for not giving How to Train Your Dragon best original score. I don't think there has been a track in a single movie since "Test Flight," in HTTYD that really took my breath away.
I completely agree! How in the world did it NOT win best score? The HTTYD films have the BEST film music I've ever heard in my life. While I'm at it, why did How To Train Your Dragon 2 lose to Big Hero 6 in the best animated feature of 2014? I mean, I like Big Hero 6 but it's so generic compared to HTTYD 2, When Marnie Was There, even The Lego Movie. But of course the academy probably saw Baymax and was just like "that's our winner"
Facts.
Disagree, httyd score is perfect but Trent Reznor and atticus Ross made one of the best and unique original scores ever with the social network
Or how they gave the oscar to Zootopia instead of Kubo.
I still cry everytime I remember that Klaus lost to Toy Story 4.
1:50 I loved Nightmare Ally, I watched it in the cinema as a last minute “I’m bored” sort of thing but came out amazed - I loved the whole concept and character building and the ending especially
I can’t express enough how much I love this video as an animation nerd. Truly one of your best Schaf!!!