Bishop Fantom Review
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2018
- Specs and my humble opinion on the Bishop Fantom, is it worth your money!?? Same incoherent ramblings and zero production value as always!
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I had the same experience, when i had a problem with the v2 machine, Franco himself called me back and picked my brain for nearly an hour. Made me a loyal bishop customer for life.
Your review style instills full trust and it is really spherical and unbiased. Hands up man!
Always Good and honest reviews! Pleas keep doing what you do! Looking forward to more video’s !
The magi they did before this was also a cartridge machine but they also had a standard neddel version as well. Really like your reviews 👍
Between the fantom and the fkirons xion which would you recommend? I do alot of black and gray and color from time to time.
Glad you did a review on the fantom, I just bought one a couple weeks ago, have not gotten to use it much on any big pieces but have liked it, seems to be slower doing lines than i like but seeing your video makes me think maybe i need to crank up the voltage a little more, I tried running lines at around 9 volts and they seemed to take forever or need 2 passes
James Johnson thanks man! Yea I’d for sure crank it up, I’ve done a couple pieces with it lately with a bunch of linework and I’ve been running 10.2, at that even with a thick white I can get consistent lines pretty effortlessly, so I’d say crank it up a bit!
will give it a go next tattoo n let you know, thanks for the advice, your work is killer
@@sirwanksalot247 how did it work out for you? turning it up?
I liked it I ran it for everything at 9.2
Great review! I was wondering if you could review the Marksman Tattoo machine. I read that it’s a gear driven machine as opposed to a cam. Any opinions on this? Thanks man, your stuff is very informative and thorough
Mad how we all work different hey.. for colour, you like to crank it up.. as where i slow it down.. yet in slowing it down, ironically, it speeds me up.. lil longer in the skin and saturated better.. but for blends I would run a lil faster.
Great video Anthony.. as always..
Have you tried the bishop wand packer yet
Have u tried or known some one who has done the rca conversion to the hawk pen or nova? And what where the results?
Can you adjust the needle length with bishop grip??
Hi!! I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, I own 2 of the older bishop models v5 and a v6, I also use bishop disposable tubes and cartridges, I recently bought a stainless steel bishop cartridge tube, cause I think the cartridges fit better, my question is! How do artist sanitize their cartridge tubes at conventions, also with the hawk and xion grips,, cold sterilization? If so what do they use? Saniwipes?
can we change the cam ? or i have to buy 2 machines with different stroke lenght ? my usual preferences vary from project to project. i use all stroke cam depending on a project/ customer etc. Would like to try the 2 offered stroke - is it possible with only one machine ? i think not on their site the fantom doesnt offer seperate cam, but only cam selection on the machine ... ????? this to me is a biggggg downerrrrr
I’m almost certain the cam can be changed, everything on the fantom is really straightforward I’m just not sure if they’re selling the cams separately, if I remember correctly it was a 3.5 and a 4.2mm you may have to contact them to find out for sure
Love your videos, very informative and detailed! I’ve heard that the Bishop Wand Shader is, essentially, a Fantom in pen format. I am considering to switch from a Hawk Thunder to a Bishop Wand Shader or a Cheyenne Sol Nova. In terms of lining and black & gray stuff, do you prefer the Sol Nova over the Fantom or the other way around? Do you think they are a step up from a Hawk Thunder? Thank you so much in advance!
Hey thanks! I prefer the sol Nova (entire sol series) to any other machine right now, I never liked lining with the fantom although it was great for black and grey the lack of speed makes it lose some versatility in my opinion. That goes for all Bishop machines, they lack the speed you get from Cheyenne, Inkjecta or even the new machine from Neuma. That said if you’re running your Cheyenne slow (less than 10v) a wand shader will probably meet your needs but if you’re faster handed or are looking for a machine to do more than one thing well I’d still recommend something from Cheyenne, even a hawkpen is going to be a great choice.
Hope that helps
Great Review! Im looking to pick up another rotary. Between the Phantom, Xion, Inkjecta what would your go to for lining? 5 to 9 rl.
Thanks! All three are good options, the inkjecta is nice and zippy but having to fiddle with all the bars and stuff is a pain, phantom is the most comfortable of the three to me and is certainly fast enough to line beautifully but just based on versatility I’d go with the Xion, I’ve lined from a single all the way up to a loose 18rd shader with it and of course is also does everything else without the need to mess with an auxiliary grip. Xion all day if you’re only buying one of those 3
Sooo Bishop fantom 3.5 mm cam or inkjecta for black and grey?
I love bishop. Try out the bishop wands
Would you recommend using bishop Davinci needles with the fantom or which brand do you prefer??
khouri Edwards there’s no Canadian supplier for the bishop needles so I haven’t tried them out, I typically use either Kwadron or Cheyenne cartridges for all machines I use
excellent review
What grip do you use with this machine? Thanks for the review
Charlie Thurston I use the FK Irons click ergo, thanks for watching!
What’s the difference between v1 and 2
I've had my push rod fall off. So I saw a video that you have to tighten the push rod with pliers. It worked
William Cuellar thanks for the tip man! That hasn’t happened to me but I’ll keep it in mind if I run across it at some point👍🏻
7:58 O quê foi aquela luz atrás???
great review!i'm thinking of getting it or the ego polygon
Hi man I can do make RL9 and 11RL with this maquine ?
Good Guy supply and Eikon both carry these for under $650. Best investment I've made.
Drew Robertson agreed man, definitely digging using this one!
Do you line with it
If you had to choose between the fantom or the xion what would you choose, I know ones a pen but would love to know what you would choose
Scott Llewellyn oh man that is really tough! If I had to pick right now I’d probably go with the Bishop, based on a lot less weight and slightly higher speed but both are phenomenal machines!
Requiem Tattoo I have the bishops magi already and was thinking it would be similar to the fantom, so with your comment think I will try the xion as never used a pen style tattoo machine and the give feature really interest me, thank you for the reply, and keep up with the vids really informative 👌🏻
In your opinion, how well does the Phantom lay lines down? And for voltage on lining vs shading do you personally make any changes between the two?...
Jimmy Blanton hey, the Fantom does line really well, most of the line work I do is detail work but just by feel I know for me it’s got the right hit and speed to line perfectly, the biggest round I’ve run with it is a loose 11 and had no issues at all. I don’t change voltage when switching because I’m already running as fast as possible for most machines Fantom is no exception!
Requiem Tattoo... your work speaks for itself.(if you havent checked it out, do so on Instagram ....) Thanks for some of the best reviews out there. Your work is badass.
Jimmy Blanton man thank you so much!🙏🏻
If you use cartridges with some kind of stability system it will line very well. Cheaper cartridges not so well..
@Intrepid Tattoo Hi, I bought a Fantom a week ago and I still can't understand why I can't do lines in one run, on 8-9-10 volts - it just doesn't work fine for 7-9 rl, I'm a little confused about it, I have enough experience in tattoo and I used different rotary machines, but I can't understand what's wrong, I tried 3.5 cam and 4.2 cam - same problems, lines are just not solid, it looks like something goes wrong, I use good cartridges - Kwadron, they are not cheap. Please, can you suggest some ideas what could be wrong? and also it doesn't look like machine is broken, sounds fine and box was new and packed. Thank you!
I have Cheyenne cable. For years. Idk what yall doing with them XD , mines works excellent
What do you think about the NeoTat Vivace ?
Alex Báez Rivera I always found all the NeoTat machines to be quite slow for me, I’ve never been a fan for the way I tattoo
I just purchased one today from TATSoul equipment would it be ok to run it off my eikon 420 ?
Brandon alvarado yea of course you can, just stay within the range that bishop recommends
Ok thank you
I Have my Cheyenne cable for 5years' cant say they are crap, i like it better than any other RCA cables. They weight 2-3x more
the bishop fantom is brushless motor?
Toto Art it is yes
Love the video. What brand cartridges do you use with it?
I mostly stick with Cheyenne carts but some of that is just ease for ordering, I actually really love the cartridges from Bishop but they’re a pain to ship to Canada especially with covid raging
@@anthonyjenkins3335 I tried using the Cheyenne needle cartridges in the bishop fantom but they don’t feel secure and keep popping out
@@nickm9838 I’ve never had that issue with any machine or grip, they’re all very universal, there may be a slight issue with your grip
What type of power supply do you use
T Arch I’m currently using a
Critical XR-d
What about mucrosngelo
@Intrepid Tattoo Hi, I bought a Fantom a week ago and I still can't understand why I can't do solid lines in one run, on 8-9-10 volts - it just doesn't work fine even for 7-9 rl, I'm a little confused about it, I have enough experience in tattoo and I used different rotary machines, but I can't understand what's wrong, I tried 3.5 cam and 4.2 cam - same problems, lines are just not solid, it looks like something goes wrong, I use good cartridges - Kwadron, they are not cheap. Please, can you suggest some ideas what could be wrong? and also it doesn't look like machine is broken, sounds fine and box was new and packed. Thank you!
Don't have a fantom but i had the same problem with fk irons halo 2 try slower hand speed and go deeper with the depth if that doesn't help then use it aas a sculpter
Use coils lol
What would you suggest for a pen that could do everything. I only have enough to get one machine like a Xion, Bishop, or Cheyenne. I want a pen style that would be good for color, black and grey and lining so I don’t have to have multiple machines. I really like the Xion however what would you recommend?
HS Juggernaut all of those will do everything but the one I consistently come back to and am most comfortable with is the Cheyenne, it’s got a better range of speed than the other two, the hit is more suited to all types of tattooing without any adjustments. There is a ton of hype around the xion still, but at the end of the day it certainly has its faults and I wouldn’t personally want to tattoo exclusively with it. As an all around daily workhorse the Cheyenne is the best choice of the three in my opinion.
Hi there...Would you reckoned this machine for say dot working and stippling lines? I have the Xion myself but not too impressed with it to be honest. For the work i do I am not sure if it would suit it but definitely intrigued!
Darren Luke McDonald I would think just based on speed the Fantom would be a little more efficient for dotwork and you’ll like the weight of it a lot for repetitive stippling
Thanks man! i am gonna follow you on instagram now (nice work by the way bro) I am Wolfpocky on there if you are wondering , I use mainly Kubin's as my daily machines especially loving the Swingliner although that hits a bit on the heavy side for smaller stipple shades etc if you see my work you will know what i mean. And the Xion I can imagine is a dream for grey shaders I like something with a more whippy hit especially to stipple bigger sized liner like 7-9rl's. Maybe I will sell the Xion and get me a Fantom. Would love to hear more in terms of companions of the two. Best wishes, D
Its soon frikking hard to find decent reviews of machines anywhere i find so its trial and error! keep up the good work buddy!
did you purchase a 3.5 or 4mm cam?
Scooby Miranda I have the 3.5
Requiem Tattoo thanks! Can't wait to see you review the flite Titan
I found this on the bishop site,
has anyone tried it? what you think about it?? thanks!…….." If you'd like to run a shorter stroke, such as 2 mm, simply adjust your tube to allow the needles to barely hang out. There's nothing better than running a 3.5 mm stroke machine but bringing down the tube to expose either 1.7 mm or 2.5 mm of the needle. This way you can have that short stroke that you desire but the ink delivery of a 3.5 mm stroke machine. This is the better option."
Aiden Karel M. If you’re interested in posting a smooth non red Instagram photo that’s the way to do it, if you’re more concerned with giving your client a tattoo that will hold up for more than a year then I would suggest you apply tattoos to the correct depth and into the correct layer of skin. 2mm stroke is pointless
@@anthonyjenkins3335
First.. sorry my google traductor, and thanks for your opinion... If the duration of the tattoo is definitely important for me, I found it interesting to be able to lower the stroke since if according to bishop it can be lowered to 2mm it means that without problems it can be lowered to 3 or 3.2mm if one wishes, but what I did not understand was what following.. "This way you can have that short stroke that you desire but the ink delivery of a 3.5 mm stroke machine" whats mean that??
what would be the result
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thank you for your quick response I really appreciate it a lot!
Sir, I am from India, I do tattoo mainly by coil machines. I am one of your fan and follower because of your lmportant tips , honest and practical suggestions to the benefit of the tattoo artists. Sometimes I have trouble setting mag needles while making grey-wash tattoos or solid black tribal tattoos, and, sometimes I need to re-adjust the needle during tattooing. Recently I am thinking to switch over to a good rotary cartridge tattoo machine and specially thinking about buying either Cheyenne pen or Bishop Fantom . I do respect your opinion and that's why I would like to know which one I should buy? I am supposed to operate the machine around 5 to 8 hours a day typically by critical power supply. My operating voltage will be around 5.5 to 9 volt max to max. I am interested to purchase for only colour packing and shading. I need my machine to be durable, quite, powerful, zero maintenance and balanced. Sir, I will be thankful if you suggest me an appropriate machine within these two?
Udayan Banerjee I wanted to give your question a bit of thought! It’s a tough decision but if I had to choose one I would go with the Cheyenne. It’s slightly more versatile in my opinion and less things you need to buy, no grips like the Bishop. I love both machines and you wouldn’t be disappointed with either but Cheyenne would be my pick
Thank you Sir, I am pleased that, you gave me your valuable suggestion. According to your advice I just ordered one Cheyenne Pen to my supplier and I am supposed to buy that to next Wednesday. I am also interested to purchase a critical CX1 Gr2 power supply with it. Will it be suitable with the pen?
Udayan Banerjee I don’t personally use the critical but one of my coworkers does with great success using any machine, i think it’d be a great choice!
Thank you sir, for your advice, then I will go for critical.
Udayan Banerjee hey i am from India punjab can you tell me where from i purchase Bishop machine in India supplier where from you bought
What about the give on this machine brother?
G-Snype Beatz theres no give, it transfers power with a rigid torsion bar but that’s why I like it, the hit is crisp and feels good, unlike most machines with give feel to me. Personal preference that’s all
What cam size you have
Gintaras Velykis I use the 3.5mm
Requiem Tattoo and you line and do colour packing?
Gintaras Velykis yep I’m completely comfortable doing everything with that stroke, it’s personal preference though
What power supply do you recommend?
JME WILLIAMS I still really like the eikon ems 420, good consistency for a fairly low price
Critical small cx1?
Malby alvarado I’m sure the CX-1 would be fine, I’m actually switching to a a Critical over the next week or so, they’re all great quality
Does it has brushless motor?
aley moreno Bishop doesn’t release a lot of info on their motors but just based on function and level of quality I’d say yes.
Inkjecta flite nano has a brushless motor as well and it runs as low as 5 volts
Fantom or Wand Shader? What’s more versatile?
The Golden Altar from what I understand the fantom is more versatile thank any of the wands but that fully depends on you as an artist and the way you tattoo ie. hand speed, preferred style. Bishop isn’t known for producing versatile machines. Franco is a strictly b&g artists and so is everyone doing the testing on the machines so they are well suited for that but not the best choice for other styles
Anthony Jenkins TY for reply. I’ve watched numerous vids and you’re the best bar none. Subscribed
You talk about the specs of the machine but you don't talk about the strengths and weaknesses of the machine. If it's tailored to a specific style or if it's suited as a liner or shader. that kinda thing.
Aaron Haynes watch it again, I absolutely talk about the style that I like using it for and what I think it’s suited for.
Wtf I got the microangelo and no cord... 😡
Big wasp has click grips $40
Hello sir, bishop fantom can do like a tribal, polynesian,color packing and power lines, please tell me sir thats why i can decide which machine ill buy, thank you in advance.
roderick vergara the Fantom is better suited to soft black and grey than colour packing if you’re looking for a great colour packer/liner your best options would be a Cheyenne Hawkpen or the Stigma Thorn
Yes you can do Polynesian with it i know of a few Polynesian artist who use nothing but the fantom. It varies upon you
thanx for this awesome review. can you recomend the bishop fantom for lining (9 needles) and dotwork? in comparsion to spectra halo2 or inkjecta Flite nano elite, which one oft these 3 would you prefer for all kinds oft work(including lines)?
Helmer Alberti I have used it for lining for sure and it works well but if I had to pick the best all around machine on your list is would be the Inkjecta, it’s much more versatile than the others, I did a review on the nano Titan, might be worth while for you to check out to help decide
+Requiem Tattoo Thank you very much for your answer and your advise. maybe the injecta will really be the best one for me.
Fantom or Microangelo?
Trick question, they’re basically the same machine as far as speed and feel, just in a different configuration. Comes down to preference for which one you like more visually and the difference in setting up for cartridges vs conventional needles, the fantom is a cart only machine microangelo will run both
@@anthonyjenkins3335 thank you 🙏🏽