I was in Tallinn just a couple days ago (April 2022) . It is one of the most impressive town in EU today! Modern ,beautiful architecture everywhere, nice people, nice big harbor ,beautiful old town... I think I could not see a car older than 8 years on the streets! Its really amazing town! A kind of mix of Frankfurt, Prague and Amsterdam....and all in one! I like it! It s cool to see how it was before and to see some location back than and now like hotel Viru or Olympia ...Regards from Croatia!
Спасибо - очень тронули воспоминания - Эстония ! - Таллинн ! - Молодость ! ... - Таллинн - город сказка - и хоть я тоже из большого города Киева. В Киеве - дух истории - в Таллинне - дух романтики средневековья ... - Таллинн мне нравился больше, начало 80-х. Эстонцы очень хорошые моряки - они надежные.
Я хочу вам сказать одно: я не хочу быть парнем, ностальгирующим по СССР, но когда я увидел это видео Таллинна 1975-1988 годов, у меня на глаза навернулись слезы, потому что даже если это не так мой город и моя страна происхождения, именно тогда я понял, что Эстония и Украина составляют единую страну, и это напоминает мне воспоминания моих родителей, бабушек и дедушек, поэтому у меня ностальгия, хотя я родился в 2005 году, спустя 14 лет распад СССР, но еще раз я ностальгирую не по СССР как по государству политически, а по стране, где выросли мои родители
Natalia Vvv- I´m an Estonian who was born in 1975 in Tallinn.. and I´ve never taken sides between Estonians and Russians, Estonia and USSR, but as Estonians we consider it as occupation because we as as a nation can not stand when someone tells us HOW things should be done. And especially if that someone is not another Estonian- but an outsider, a stranger, because we are not very collectively- minded nation- we are in fact one of the most individualistic nations of this world as also global demographic studies have shown. I majored in history of population at Univeristy of Tartu. So it´s out basic intellect that interprets collective and outer impact as a threat to our ID- and it´s rooted deeply in our unconsciousness. I´m also a poet, so I know a great deal about that. There´s also a split or big divide because of that attitude between Estonians, because there are these days also a great deal of Estonians who are in spirit social democrats or socialists- versus those who feel they are suppressed because of that, because they are unconsciously individualistic. Our individualism is where both our weakness and strength lies and you as someone who lives here, feels it too- if not consciously, then unconsciously. And it´s no one´s fault really, it´s just how things are.
Живу в Таллине с 1959 года всегда башня на ратуше с Вана Томасом была слева если смотреть с площади а на видео 3:11 она справа если смотреть с площади, а где аптека?Зазеркалье какое то.
punkrocktrucker depends who you ask Soviet times had their advantages like a very safe area, work for everybody, free apartment and car and a good education. The health assistance was quite good in the western part of the Ussr but you could go to jail because of no reason, you couldn’t leave the country or say anything against the leaders or people who had influence. But it wasn’t that bad for it’s time but now a days it wouldn’t be adapted, finally only Russian was legal to speak in the streets.
@@giacomocasanova2418 There Used to be russian signs all over the country. They were taken down of course but you can still see russian signs when you go to some abandoned soviet towns.
I see nothing to be nostalgic for. All of the pretty sites shown in the clip, are built in pre communist time. The rest is panel built flats, sadly just like everywhere else in Eastern Europe. Estonia is way better off today.
O these yellow buses.., music, film quality.. kind of nostalgic. I think the new city-line buses did not change before about 1998 or so.. at least in Tartu, as much as I remember. Cold, rusty yellow buses = childhood, up to second or third grade. Somehow I have missed these.
Памятник Ленину стоял напротив здания КПЭ, сейчас там министерство иностранных дел на Рявала пст., рядом с Солярисом. Если смотреть на карте, то сейчас это место обозначено как Iceland square.
Исходя из существующей действительности в 2020 году, являясь гражданином России, изучая историю, меня удивляет как в свое время могли быть в составе Российской империи такие государства как Финляндия и Польша. Хотя эти страны и имели практически полную автономию, но тем не мене были под протекторатом Российской империи. Но то была история, историей являет и тот факт, что прибалтика когда то была в составе Советского союза и была на привилегированных условиях в отличии от большинства советский республик. Смотрю сейчас на прибалтику и так же удивляюсь как мы могли быть когда то в составе одной страны...
man, you're exaggerating, it was good before, but now it's normal that we turn towards the West because it's the future for the Baltic countries,Communism and Ussr was elements of the past
for liberrals and capitalists it was, but for common people it was utopic life, when stalin died and smart leaders took over, it became strongest country in world, won space race, ppl were optimistic and equally happy.
I have one thing to tell you, I don't want to be the guy who is nostalgic for the USSR but when I see this video of Tallinn in the years 1975-1988 it brought tears to my eyes, because even if it is not my city and my country of origin, that's when I realized that Estonia and Ukraine form a single country, and that reminds me of the memories of my parents and grandparents, that's why I have Nostalgia even though I was born in 2005, 14 years after the fall of the USSR but once again I am not Nostalgic for the USSR as a State politically but as a Country where my Parents grew up
Жаль что в Советское время солдат считали оккупантами. Столько денег вбухано в город, построено домов, готовились к Олимпиаде 80. Город красивый, река Пирита и комплекс чудо. Жаль, что теперь Россия для Эстонии враг
Всем нормальным Эстонцам мира, добра и любви! А фашистам (неонацистам) ненавидящим Россию, да будем вам по вашим заслугам. Ибо чего желаете другим от того сами и пострадаете. С приветом из России!
Всем нормальным Русьйчам мира,добра и любви!А совкам(коммунякам),путинойдам,едроссам,плевавших на свой народ,угражавших государвст вокруг себя,вечный хаос и неблагодать.
@@666kotik Ты фашист? Не повторяйте больше ошибок 1941 года. Не вздумайте никогда больше пытаться переходить границ России и не провоцируйте Россию к агрессии. Слишком много крови, безвинной уже пролито по причине фашизма. Мой вам совет. Сидите со своей ненавистью к Русским, Евреям и другим людям, коих вы считаете не достойными жить на этой земле, дома. В Евросоюзе. А еще лучше, это в идеале, начните ходить в Церковь, придите к Богу, который есть Любовь!
@@666kotik Меньше всего меня интересует в отношении меня и моей страны мнение фашиста. Видать за живое задел я тебя. Со своими фашистами мы разберемся. У нас в стране они если и есть, то в глубокой опале. Додавим рано или поздно.
100 Years of Communism: Death and Deprivation On November 9, 1989, the Berlin Wall fell. It did so by accident. During a press conference, the spokesman for East Berlin’s Communist Party noted that citizens of the German Democratic Republic would be allowed to travel to the West. For months, pressure was building on the authorities, as tens of thousands of East Germans tried to flee to West Germany via the unguarded Hungarian frontier. To regain control of the situation, the authorities agreed to start providing exit visas to the restless populace in the near future, but both the nature and the timing of the concession got lost in a frenzy of questions that followed the announcement. The word of the border opening spread like wildfire. By midnight thousands of Berliners squared off against a few dozen confused policemen guarding the Bornholmer Street checkpoint. Overwhelmed, the police let the people through. Over the next three days, three million East Germans got their first taste of the life in the West. The communist authority in East Germany crumbled along with the Wall. Within a year, the two Germanys were reunified. In Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, and Romania, communist governments met the same fate. Finally, in August 1991, communism fell in the Soviet Union, and the country dissolved on December 26. *** Twenty-eight years later, those of us who lived through those momentous days still cherish the freedoms that we gained. For most people, alas, communism is but an echo of a distant past. So much so that socialism, an economic system of communist countries, is experiencing something of a renaissance. In Venezuela, for example, an 18-year-old experiment with socialism is entering a horrific denouement marked by hyperinflation, hunger, rising infant mortality rates and increasingly brutal suppression of the opposition. In the United Kingdom, an unrepentant socialist came within a few percentage points of winning this year’s election, while in the United States, a socialist senator almost became the Democratic Party’s nominee for the presidency. Let us, therefore, remind ourselves what communism wrought. Writing in this newspaper, A. Barton Hinkle noted that “while the Soviet Union is no more and communism has been discredited in most eyes for many years, it is hard even now to grasp the sheer scale of agony imposed by the brutal ideology of collectivism.” Indeed. “The Black Book of Communism,” a postmortem of communist atrocities compiled by European and American academics in 1997, concluded that the human cost of genocides, extrajudicial executions, deportations, and artificial famines stood at over 94 million. Professor Mark Kramer from the Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard University edited “The Black Book.” Subsequent research, he told me, suggests that “the total number (of people) who died unnatural deaths under communist regimes … (is) upward of 80 million.” Let’s put that new number in perspective. Between 1825 and 1917, wrote Stéphane Courtois from the French National Centre for Scientific Research, the Tsarist regime in Russia “carried out 6,321 political executions … whereas in two months of official ‘Red Terror’ in the fall of 1918 Bolshevism achieved some 15,000.” Or, consider the Inquisition. According to Professor Agostino Borromeo, a historian of Catholicism at the Sapienza University in Rome, “there were some 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in Spain … (between 1478 and 1834, but only) about 1 percent of the defendants (i.e., 1,250) were executed.” Finally, consider the counterreformation. Queen “Bloody” Mary, who tried to restore Catholicism to England between 1553 and 1558, sent 280 dissenters to the stake. Between November 1917, when the communists came to power in Russia, and the North Korean famine in the mid-1990s, communists were responsible for deaths of at least 154 people every hour. *** Consider, also, the economic legacy of communism. While socialist economies of Central and Eastern Europe continued to grow for much of the communist period, capitalist countries in Western Europe grew faster. For example, look at East and West Germany. At the end of World War II, average incomes in Germany were, by definition, equal. By 1989, West German incomes were almost twice as high as those in East Germany. Then there is North and South Korea. Once again, incomes in Korea were equal, on average, at the conclusion of World War II. Contemporary data for North Korea is tough to come by, but Professor Angus Maddison of Groningen University estimated that in 2008, South Koreans were 18 times richer than North Koreans. Finally, those who are truly interested in the reality of daily life under socialism can see it for themselves by visiting Cuba and Venezuela. No matter where it was tried, communism has always resulted in mountains of dead bodies. As for socialist economics, it has always resulted in shortages, inefficiency, poverty, and desperation. The verdict of history is clear, but only if people are willing to see it. Viide: www.cato.org/publications/commentary/100-years-communism-death-deprivation
Let's get real though. The leftist parties in the western democracies have very little to do with Soviet/Venezuelan style real socialism, and they are a much needed balance to the right wing. In democracies, there are OPTIONS, and in the end a balance is achieved and it usually works out just fine. But pretty much every major party in the west (or the world even) support market economy. There are only a handful of communist countries left in the world, and market economy has proved to be far superior to communism, and very few parties seriously seek real socialism. Personally I vote for right wing, but I do understand that there needs to be OPTIONS in a democracy, or it's not a democracy and that leads to catastrophy. But I have no sympathy for real communist parties though. Those are evil, much like a nazi party would be.
talin, riga, vilnius, what a great soviet cities they were, now only shell left of greatness, all around western crap, orgiinality and unique stuff were destroyed, poor and rich became so separated =\ we need equality back.
@UCC_ONxf0L0sjim0r1LyU0Kg im from lithuania, and we call it Talinas, so sorry for mistake, but i was telling from my experience and its truth not trolling
@@Onnikka78 i doubt it, i travelled there few times with my familly, it was similar to riga or vilnius, great baltic cities with soviet architecture and working class people. Today maybe its worse
Бедные несчастные эстонцы! Как плохо-плохо жили! Так плохо, что дух захватывает! Ещё бы: "совок" не терпел тунеядцев и заставлял работать и учиться, иметь свою промышленность и сельское хозяйство! А это ж как недемократично и не толерантно! Но вот сейчас ничего не делают и катаются как сыр в масле!)))))))))
Only small part of Tallinn is rich, have you ever been to Estonia?! As per stat.ee 22.1 Estonians are poor and 8% are in absolute poverty! Get your facts right! All you need to do is drive 10km outside Tallinn!
@S J богатые места в эстонии можно по пальцем со счетать. А в основном нищета и унылие. политики не думают о людях. всё что строилось в то время сносится. У моей знакомый огород снесли и весь раён дач. В магазинах сплошная химия да и вещи без качевства. В моём городе лампы на улице даже ровно не могут поставить. А о реновацые домов я вообще молчю. И люди тоже изменились, все вокруге такие злые и жестокие. и извеняюсь если пишу с ошибками. я сам на половину Эстонец и Русский.
I was in Tallinn just a couple days ago (April 2022) . It is one of the most impressive town in EU today! Modern ,beautiful architecture everywhere, nice people, nice big harbor ,beautiful old town... I think I could not see a car older than 8 years on the streets! Its really amazing town! A kind of mix of Frankfurt, Prague and Amsterdam....and all in one! I like it! It s cool to see how it was before and to see some location back than and now like hotel Viru or Olympia ...Regards from Croatia!
You're always welcome back
Kak je bilo u estoniji
The music fits the video so nicely :)
This brought back memories for me. I was a regular visitor to Tallinn in the 1970s. Thank you!
Просто супер, как будто в детство вернулся, да ещё и музыка в ряд!!! Спасибо!
Музыка из фильма "Где находится нофелет?"
Tänan. See on meie ajalugu.
blalexa sama
Jah..
Спасибо - очень тронули воспоминания - Эстония ! - Таллинн ! - Молодость ! ... - Таллинн - город сказка - и хоть я тоже из большого города Киева. В Киеве - дух истории - в Таллинне - дух романтики средневековья ... - Таллинн мне нравился больше, начало 80-х.
Эстонцы очень хорошые моряки - они надежные.
Я хочу вам сказать одно: я не хочу быть парнем, ностальгирующим по СССР, но когда я увидел это видео Таллинна 1975-1988 годов, у меня на глаза навернулись слезы, потому что даже если это не так мой город и моя страна происхождения, именно тогда я понял, что Эстония и Украина составляют единую страну, и это напоминает мне воспоминания моих родителей, бабушек и дедушек, поэтому у меня ностальгия, хотя я родился в 2005 году, спустя 14 лет распад СССР, но еще раз я ностальгирую не по СССР как по государству политически, а по стране, где выросли мои родители
Люблю этот город всем сердцем. Я беларус из Гданьска
Wow, very modern for a Soviet-era city. Nice!!
yes, I am agree....but estonians calls these years-Ocupation of USSR....Very good ocupation, is not it????
Natalia Vvv Well imagine Estonia being a western country just like Finland, that sounds even better doesn't it?!
nsǝpɐɯoʇ ▼ i like my town. I lived here in Soviet Union times and live now....and hope-my children will live forever...:) although we are Russian-....
Natalia Vvv Какой-то кал, если честно на видео. Сейчас там намного лучше.
Natalia Vvv- I´m an Estonian who was born in 1975 in Tallinn.. and I´ve never taken sides between Estonians and Russians, Estonia and USSR, but as Estonians we consider it as occupation because we as as a nation can not stand when someone tells us HOW things should be done. And especially if that someone is not another Estonian- but an outsider, a stranger, because we are not very collectively- minded nation- we are in fact one of the most individualistic nations of this world as also global demographic studies have shown. I majored in history of population at Univeristy of Tartu. So it´s out basic intellect that interprets collective and outer impact as a threat to our ID- and it´s rooted deeply in our unconsciousness. I´m also a poet, so I know a great deal about that. There´s also a split or big divide because of that attitude between Estonians, because there are these days also a great deal of Estonians who are in spirit social democrats or socialists- versus those who feel they are suppressed because of that, because they are unconsciously individualistic. Our individualism is where both our weakness and strength lies and you as someone who lives here, feels it too- if not consciously, then unconsciously. And it´s no one´s fault really, it´s just how things are.
Живу в Таллине с 1959 года всегда башня на ратуше с Вана Томасом была слева если смотреть с площади а на видео 3:11 она справа если смотреть с площади, а где аптека?Зазеркалье какое то.
My childhood :)
Were Soviet times really all that bad, or did it have its up and downs like any other country?
What was it like exactly?
punkrocktrucker depends who you ask Soviet times had their advantages like a very safe area, work for everybody, free apartment and car and a good education. The health assistance was quite good in the western part of the Ussr but you could go to jail because of no reason, you couldn’t leave the country or say anything against the leaders or people who had influence. But it wasn’t that bad for it’s time but now a days it wouldn’t be adapted, finally only Russian was legal to speak in the streets.
@@yathoshiii3202 really? Because the signs all seem to be written in Estonian
Giacomo Casanova they were writtent in both languages but mostly in Russian.
@@giacomocasanova2418 There Used to be russian signs all over the country. They were taken down of course but you can still see russian signs when you go to some abandoned soviet towns.
Видеоряд и музыка совпали идеально! Верните меня в то время!!!
Сори мы теперь не зовисимые и назад в рабство не хотим
Weirdly only Russians want to go back to the past.
Aitäh, väga huvitav video.
im living in finland and im 22 ,my heart broke to see it in good ways.wanna move back but the wage is low
I see nothing to be nostalgic for. All of the pretty sites shown in the clip, are built in pre communist time. The rest is panel built flats, sadly just like everywhere else in Eastern Europe. Estonia is way better off today.
"All of the pretty sites shown in the clip, are built in pre communist time"That's nothing but just direct lie.
I lived in Estonia and most of the images were shown were buildings built during the soviet time, apart of Old town!
I remember my first trip to Tallinn early 90's. There was still strong soviet vibe.
I know that im an estonian XD
Im broned in 2013
Nvm wrong word
The hardships of the occupation is gone and now ordinary people can enjoy how well the middle class lives! )))
O these yellow buses.., music, film quality.. kind of nostalgic. I think the new city-line buses did not change before about 1998 or so.. at least in Tartu, as much as I remember. Cold, rusty yellow buses = childhood, up to second or third grade. Somehow I have missed these.
My house in 02:15 :D
where is it?
Please,
write here address
Beautiful!
Orange the Orange why
I love you, Tallinn!!!!
Tallin not Tallinn
@@drifzyy67 rus.postimees.ee/6517664/tallinn-ili-tallin-kakoy-variant-budet-schitatsya-pravilnym-na-totalnom-diktante-2019
@@drifzyy67 вот так-то!🤪
@@drifzyy67 It’s Tallinn not Tallin
3:08 what is the place? Что за место где стоял памятник Ленину? Mis koht see on?
I think it's the park in front of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Памятник Ленину стоял напротив здания КПЭ, сейчас там министерство иностранных дел на Рявала пст., рядом с Солярисом. Если смотреть на карте, то сейчас это место обозначено как Iceland square.
Vabandust , mis on selle video taustalaulu nimi ???
подскажите пжл музыку
what is the song in it ?
Too fast playback. Better to play with .75 speed.
Интересная музыка.
Tere!
Я из Таллина с 1974 года
0:18 Apartment Name today?
Nice video!
:-)
Исходя из существующей действительности в 2020 году, являясь гражданином России, изучая историю, меня удивляет как в свое время могли быть в составе Российской империи такие государства как Финляндия и Польша. Хотя эти страны и имели практически полную автономию, но тем не мене были под протекторатом Российской империи. Но то была история, историей являет и тот факт, что прибалтика когда то была в составе Советского союза и была на привилегированных условиях в отличии от большинства советский республик. Смотрю сейчас на прибалтику и так же удивляюсь как мы могли быть когда то в составе одной страны...
a my i nebyli.
Можно название музыки пожалуйста?
+Dankku94 Да,музыка замечательная и прекрасно подходит к Вашему видео!
А Вы не знаете человека на яхте(?)?.Это на 2:58.
Заранее благодарна за ответ.
Музыка кому нужно: Зацепин - Где находится Нофелет. А то за 8 лет так никто и не смог ответить на этот вопрос
@@32McLaudвообще-то ответ был ниже, аж 8 лет назад
Дайте мне ссылку на видео, где эстонцы произносят название Таллина, пожалуйста?
grazeroleg uruguayo !!??
There is no much changes in Tallinn though, it still looks like this till today. 😶
There are many changes ua-cam.com/video/zc4NxsJ_4rE/v-deo.html
LISTEN TO THIS SONG ON UA-cam...
LIBERDADE - NAÇÃO NESTA
LIBERDADE - NAÇÃO NESTA
what is the melody called
"The Rain Passed" by composer Aleksandr Zatsepin
❤ SURU AITAH🎉
Whats the name of the song?
+pulsku Aleksandr Zatsepin - Дождь прошёл
Александр Зацепин - Дождь Прошёл. Из кинофильма "Где находится нофелет! "
Советскую Эстонию все любят и уважают!
Wow memories.
Thank god it's over. The style of those buildings is a middlefinger to beauty.
man, you're exaggerating, it was good before, but now it's normal that we turn towards the West because it's the future for the Baltic countries,Communism and Ussr was elements of the past
tallin ist super schtadt ist griosse baltick see 2 saaremaae . ich libe talinn ,ltu .kaunas a. g.
Some places was coming out at tenet 1:08,2:34
3:05 is not in Estonia
music ok
It was a horrible time.
for liberrals and capitalists it was, but for common people it was utopic life, when stalin died and smart leaders took over, it became strongest country in world, won space race, ppl were optimistic and equally happy.
Happy in soviet time? What a fairy tale?!
no its reality, without any west propaganda, ppl lived better in 60s 70s 80s soveit union than today.
I remember this reality, never want anymore those times back!
thats sad
Aaaaah Miss the golden soviet Estonia of , where life was easier and growing, nostalgy 🥲
I have one thing to tell you, I don't want to be the guy who is nostalgic for the USSR but when I see this video of Tallinn in the years 1975-1988 it brought tears to my eyes, because even if it is not my city and my country of origin, that's when I realized that Estonia and Ukraine form a single country, and that reminds me of the memories of my parents and grandparents, that's why I have Nostalgia even though I was born in 2005, 14 years after the fall of the USSR but once again I am not Nostalgic for the USSR as a State politically but as a Country where my Parents grew up
Я родилась в . Таллине и всей семьёй уехали .в 1991году. Да есть что вспомнить.
Жаль что в Советское время солдат считали оккупантами. Столько денег вбухано в город, построено домов, готовились к Олимпиаде 80. Город красивый, река Пирита и комплекс чудо. Жаль, что теперь Россия для Эстонии враг
Not so great times... well before Chernobyl accident.
ELAGU EESTI NSV!
debiil
Всем нормальным Эстонцам мира, добра и любви! А фашистам (неонацистам) ненавидящим Россию, да будем вам по вашим заслугам. Ибо чего желаете другим от того сами и пострадаете. С приветом из России!
Всем нормальным Русьйчам мира,добра и любви!А совкам(коммунякам),путинойдам,едроссам,плевавших на свой народ,угражавших государвст вокруг себя,вечный хаос и неблагодать.
@@666kotik Ты фашист? Не повторяйте больше ошибок 1941 года. Не вздумайте никогда больше пытаться переходить границ России и не провоцируйте Россию к агрессии. Слишком много крови, безвинной уже пролито по причине фашизма. Мой вам совет. Сидите со своей ненавистью к Русским, Евреям и другим людям, коих вы считаете не достойными жить на этой земле, дома. В Евросоюзе. А еще лучше, это в идеале, начните ходить в Церковь, придите к Богу, который есть Любовь!
@@Валерий-х6б Кто вам угрожает?А вы, как захватчиками были,так и остались.Фашистов у себя дома ищй,промытая твоя голова.Единоросс хренов.
@@666kotik Меньше всего меня интересует в отношении меня и моей страны мнение фашиста. Видать за живое задел я тебя. Со своими фашистами мы разберемся. У нас в стране они если и есть, то в глубокой опале. Додавим рано или поздно.
Тьфу ты, что у вас в голове? Может хватит телевизор смотреть?
ich army ,military tallin 2 yare klogo gornizon ich ist litau.
100 Years of Communism: Death and Deprivation
On November 9, 1989, the Berlin Wall fell. It did so by accident.
During a press conference, the spokesman for East Berlin’s Communist Party noted that citizens of the German Democratic Republic would be allowed to travel to the West. For months, pressure was building on the authorities, as tens of thousands of East Germans tried to flee to West Germany via the unguarded Hungarian frontier.
To regain control of the situation, the authorities agreed to start providing exit visas to the restless populace in the near future, but both the nature and the timing of the concession got lost in a frenzy of questions that followed the announcement.
The word of the border opening spread like wildfire. By midnight thousands of Berliners squared off against a few dozen confused policemen guarding the Bornholmer Street checkpoint. Overwhelmed, the police let the people through. Over the next three days, three million East Germans got their first taste of the life in the West.
The communist authority in East Germany crumbled along with the Wall. Within a year, the two Germanys were reunified. In Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, and Romania, communist governments met the same fate. Finally, in August 1991, communism fell in the Soviet Union, and the country dissolved on December 26.
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Twenty-eight years later, those of us who lived through those momentous days still cherish the freedoms that we gained. For most people, alas, communism is but an echo of a distant past. So much so that socialism, an economic system of communist countries, is experiencing something of a renaissance.
In Venezuela, for example, an 18-year-old experiment with socialism is entering a horrific denouement marked by hyperinflation, hunger, rising infant mortality rates and increasingly brutal suppression of the opposition. In the United Kingdom, an unrepentant socialist came within a few percentage points of winning this year’s election, while in the United States, a socialist senator almost became the Democratic Party’s nominee for the presidency.
Let us, therefore, remind ourselves what communism wrought.
Writing in this newspaper, A. Barton Hinkle noted that “while the Soviet Union is no more and communism has been discredited in most eyes for many years, it is hard even now to grasp the sheer scale of agony imposed by the brutal ideology of collectivism.” Indeed.
“The Black Book of Communism,” a postmortem of communist atrocities compiled by European and American academics in 1997, concluded that the human cost of genocides, extrajudicial executions, deportations, and artificial famines stood at over 94 million.
Professor Mark Kramer from the Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard University edited “The Black Book.” Subsequent research, he told me, suggests that “the total number (of people) who died unnatural deaths under communist regimes … (is) upward of 80 million.”
Let’s put that new number in perspective.
Between 1825 and 1917, wrote Stéphane Courtois from the French National Centre for Scientific Research, the Tsarist regime in Russia “carried out 6,321 political executions … whereas in two months of official ‘Red Terror’ in the fall of 1918 Bolshevism achieved some 15,000.”
Or, consider the Inquisition. According to Professor Agostino Borromeo, a historian of Catholicism at the Sapienza University in Rome, “there were some 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in Spain … (between 1478 and 1834, but only) about 1 percent of the defendants (i.e., 1,250) were executed.”
Finally, consider the counterreformation. Queen “Bloody” Mary, who tried to restore Catholicism to England between 1553 and 1558, sent 280 dissenters to the stake. Between November 1917, when the communists came to power in Russia, and the North Korean famine in the mid-1990s, communists were responsible for deaths of at least 154 people every hour.
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Consider, also, the economic legacy of communism. While socialist economies of Central and Eastern Europe continued to grow for much of the communist period, capitalist countries in Western Europe grew faster.
For example, look at East and West Germany. At the end of World War II, average incomes in Germany were, by definition, equal. By 1989, West German incomes were almost twice as high as those in East Germany.
Then there is North and South Korea. Once again, incomes in Korea were equal, on average, at the conclusion of World War II. Contemporary data for North Korea is tough to come by, but Professor Angus Maddison of Groningen University estimated that in 2008, South Koreans were 18 times richer than North Koreans.
Finally, those who are truly interested in the reality of daily life under socialism can see it for themselves by visiting Cuba and Venezuela.
No matter where it was tried, communism has always resulted in mountains of dead bodies. As for socialist economics, it has always resulted in shortages, inefficiency, poverty, and desperation. The verdict of history is clear, but only if people are willing to see it.
Viide: www.cato.org/publications/commentary/100-years-communism-death-deprivation
Let's get real though. The leftist parties in the western democracies have very little to do with Soviet/Venezuelan style real socialism, and they are a much needed balance to the right wing. In democracies, there are OPTIONS, and in the end a balance is achieved and it usually works out just fine.
But pretty much every major party in the west (or the world even) support market economy. There are only a handful of communist countries left in the world, and market economy has proved to be far superior to communism, and very few parties seriously seek real socialism.
Personally I vote for right wing, but I do understand that there needs to be OPTIONS in a democracy, or it's not a democracy and that leads to catastrophy. But I have no sympathy for real communist parties though. Those are evil, much like a nazi party would be.
talin, riga, vilnius, what a great soviet cities they were, now only shell left of greatness, all around western crap, orgiinality and unique stuff were destroyed, poor and rich became so separated =\ we need equality back.
@UCC_ONxf0L0sjim0r1LyU0Kg im from lithuania, and we call it Talinas, so sorry for mistake, but i was telling from my experience and its truth not trolling
LOL NO
Tallin was horrible city in soviet time
@@Onnikka78 i doubt it, i travelled there few times with my familly, it was similar to riga or vilnius, great baltic cities with soviet architecture and working class people. Today maybe its worse
Have you travelled to Tallinn in 2000s too?
Бедные несчастные эстонцы! Как плохо-плохо жили! Так плохо, что дух захватывает! Ещё бы: "совок" не терпел тунеядцев и заставлял работать и учиться, иметь свою промышленность и сельское хозяйство! А это ж как недемократично и не толерантно! Но вот сейчас ничего не делают и катаются как сыр в масле!)))))))))
+Светозар Велесов Ну сейчас они конечно получше живут в Европе, с ёршиками с мётлами.)
***** Дупло закрой, козлоногая!
А что ты знаешь про современную Эстонию?
Так рентабельное производство вывезли за город, к обочинам основных шоссе. Там логистика подходящая и есть операторы. Хозяева чаще всего иностранцы
You are soooo brain washed that its sick.
at the time Tallin was very rich and prosperous city . today is one of the poorest areas of Europe . . .
100iliasm poorest areas?
Its Tallinn you lil peace of shit. And its now richer than it ever was.
Only small part of Tallinn is rich, have you ever been to Estonia?! As per stat.ee 22.1 Estonians are poor and 8% are in absolute poverty! Get your facts right! All you need to do is drive 10km outside Tallinn!
I did drive 10km away, all I see richest houses buold better than in Tallinn, better roads than in Tallinn.... @@jpp9784
@cook Its now one of most richest city with beautiful rebuilded town.
Жаль что завалили эстонцы страну, были бы русские все под контролем было бы.
1918 ne udalos ruskim Estoniu savalit, a 1944 ksašeleniu udalos. Eta uvas v rossii vidna kak vsjo pod kontroljam, pod jevreiskom kontroljam!
игорь пеньков pastj zakroi , tvarj!
@S J к лучшему это не привело! Сам живу здесь.
@S J богатые места в эстонии можно по пальцем со счетать. А в основном нищета и унылие. политики не думают о людях. всё что строилось в то время сносится. У моей знакомый огород снесли и весь раён дач. В магазинах сплошная химия да и вещи без качевства. В моём городе лампы на улице даже ровно не могут поставить. А о реновацые домов я вообще молчю. И люди тоже изменились, все вокруге такие злые и жестокие. и извеняюсь если пишу с ошибками. я сам на половину Эстонец и Русский.
@S J это какая? Раз я не понимаю? Там все Эстонские.
Vittu mikä bängeri valitu musiikiksi taustalle, 6/5. Vielä joskus käyn Virossa
Juu
@@spkanava Mitä teit vuonna 1989?