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PREMIUM MODEL KITS CAN KILL YOUR CREATIVITY - Do we need all this stuff?
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
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Modern premium luxury model kits offer everything a scale modeler could hope for: accesories, resin parts, 3D printed parts, 3D instrument panels, conversions, masking sets, user guides, product guides, etc....BUT DO WE NEED ALL THIS? ISNT THIS OVER THE TOP?
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0:00 No more room for creativity
2:35 Good but simple kits
3:44 Example: Ammo MiG-17 limited edtition
6:45 Over the top
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Just recently found your channel and i enjoy the content and your approach to things - My take on your message - or the point I think you were making - is that if everything is provided for you it Will reduce the need to solve detailing needs yourself (granted you have the need, certainly everyone is different) which Will kill the creativity. Now it is certainly a plus to have s kit that comes with all the Bells and whistles all in one box as it eliminate the need to spend time searching for exhausts, flaps, wheels, masks etc etc. It is convenient - and That is the real topic of discussion i think - its something we see everywhere in the hobby - convenience products such as pre made washes and various shake and bake techiques that save time. That is all fine but i think the products you mention fall into that category and Will certainly have appeal to many. The great thing with the hobby though is that there is no right or wrong! Just have fun - and enjoy the hobby 🙏🏻
Exactly everybody can have his own take on how get things done and which products to use.
And i surely will build these premium kits, but like once or twice a year
Thanks for the feedback!
I think in this case, what is really needed, and which is answered by some manufacturers, are different levels of the same basic kit. This provides the benefits of a newer molding and some improvement in detail over older releases without the added costs associated with the more detail included kits. I do understand the added satisfaction that comes from doing more of the work yourself, but I have to agree with the other poster in that purchasing a more detailed kit is optional on the part of the buyer.
Yes i think Eduard is a great example for this, with their weekend and profi packs for instance.
With me everything takes a bit longer i guess and this was the moment, when i realised i would build a kit like this maybe once a year not more often.
Thanks for the feedback!
I do agree with the point. I think building a premium kit once in a while as a treat does have a place, but they are different. I personally enjoy trash kits (as long as they are very cheap). There is no pressure to make anything decent out of them and you can experiment as much as you want. Try painting roundels by stenceling them for the first time? go ahead. Want to try scratch building gear bay doors to display it flight? No problem, I can't make it worse.
I guess this is what i ment to say with the rookie example: you can build and experiment more carefree with a simple kit👌🏼
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I've never purchased one of these super detailed and expensive kits.
I dont feel I have the skill to take advantage of such a model. I can also lose interest in the subject if a kit takes too long to build. I do love to see other people take these kits and perform their magic on them, though.
These kind of kits are great if you look for a longer project. Otherwise there are cheaper and better options
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I don’t feel in the slightest bit guilty for using canopy masks, PE or resin…or not using them. Sometimes I won’t use all the accessories in a kit. I just buy it for some accessories and not others. I don’t think anyone is forcing us to buy Limited Editions. Eduard offers Limited, ProfiPack, Weekend and even Overtrees versions of any tooling. So the choice is up to the consumer. I like that. And I don’t own a Silhoutte cutter, or a resin printer…so I don’t have the ability to fabricate a higher detailed seat on my own.
I love the way Eduard approaches this question and Ammo also does have 2 versions of the MiG-17. And i use masks and PE regurarely, it wasnt in my mind to put guilt on anybody because of it. I guess what triggered me was the high amount of 3D parts and all the guides included. It just raised some personal thoughts about this topic in general and as always i was curious about your opinion.
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@@chrisveya7556 don’t get me wrong I think your assertion is a valid one. Perhaps having all these conveniences does stifle creativity to an extent for some modelers, but I’m a firm believer that anyone should be able to model however they choose.
I love both kits, highly detailed and basic. To be honest I prefer and have the most fun with basic. Gives me lots of room to create. I 100% agree with you on this topic. They have always been my favorite builds with the most heart put into them.
I work on miniatures and do a lot kit bashing and modification and as a result, I prefer a simple plain miniature that allows me to use my imagination and then take the model in the direction that I want. I don’t want the manufacturer to define what I should do with the model. I perfectly understand what Rusty is discussing here.
Yes well said, with a plain kit theres space for the imagination.
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I like them simple to build, then add extras from my spares box, or create missing parts when restoring old kits. I like to purchase second hand kits, they are a challege, missing or broken pieces, partly constucted, etc. Some of the most rewarding builds are from something so simple. Horses for courses, if you like all the extras then fine, if you dont then fine. I would open the box of the mig 17, then shut it again, and leave it to a dedicated enthuseist. Good video.
Haha, i was overwhelmed when i opened the box!
Youre a real expert building second hand kits even, its quite the opposite of a premium kit.
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One of the strange things about 1/35 scale military modelling in modern times is the kits with an interior. What a waste of time. You can't see inside a tank. I certainly won't be bothering with doing tanks with interiors. I know what happened. Years ago Verlinden did a diorama with a King Tiger having maintanence done to it's engine. Everyone was well impressed with this diorama I thought, my tanks should also have internal bits. Now people have woken up to the fact that doing a tank with an interior takes a lot longer & costs a lot more. So now manufacturers are releasing kits without interiors! You have to use a bit of common sense. Decide what you want to do & then go for it. As someone who does dioramas, I really haven't got time to do internal stuff no one can see. And I certainly don't want to do an engine maintenance diorama.
Im mainly building aircraft models and even though some parts can be seen a lot of the interior will get covered once the build gets finished. So some people ask, is it worth it to spend time with the interior. But given that a tanks interior is completely 100% not visible...it makes no sense to have one
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at times its nice to do an airfix vintage classic kit with no embellishments just out of the box
Way to go! I think its necessary from time to time. Theres nothing wrong with out of the box builds
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Absolutely! I could not agree with you more.
Of course, each to their own at the end of the day, but creativity, surely, is certainly pushed to one side with premium kits that have everything included. It's like everything's done for you. Where's the fun in that?
One only has to look at Greg's Models. This chap is able to take older kits, and through acquired skill and practice, is able to turn them into absolute bespoke works of art. These improvements are achieved without the aid of major aftermarket components. This, for me, is proper scale modelling. This is just mo. There's nothing wrong with improving a model with some aftermarket but to go the complete opposite end of the spectrum with the mindset, 'I'm not building this until I've acquired every bit of aftermarket available, every decal sheet.' Blah, blah.
Oh, dear.
Excellent video.
Very well said couldnt put it better 👍🏻. I think having a good balance between the different approaches and being aware of what type of model kit we have on the bench is important.
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I like to have the option to sometime build something simple, and other times something much more elaborate. I think you can find creative avanues even for some of those super-accessoried kits, such as the painting.
Exactly, im thinking building a premium from time to time is a good solution 👍🏻.
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I agree with the pressure part. When you have a highly detailed kit, any minor screw up feels like the world is on fire and there is no recovering from it.
On the other hand, I don't agree with these kits killing creativity as I wouldn't call it creativity when you replicate a part or even the whole vehicle out of plastic.
Is it creative to add rivet detail to the surface of the model?
Is it creative to add some wiring and whatnot to the cockpit?
And if it is, then is it creativity me designing a replacement part in CAD and 3D printing it?
For me creativity starts from creating something new. A hypothetical camo paint job, a what-if scenario, a custom nose art on a bomber, a diorama, a scene... these are creative things.
But this is only my opinion.
There are modellers who just want to build these models to the highest detail and realism, because they love the subject. They don't necessarily want to scratch build parts of it, or even the whole thing. Some wouldn't even have the space, or the tools to do so. There are modellers who do this hobby on the kitchen table once a week. For them, having these highly detailed kits might be a blessing. Would I want to rob these people from this experience? Certainly not.
Our community is full with people with the "if you're not doing it like I do, then you're wrong" mentality.
I think in the era of social media we have forgotten that this hobby is ultimately a private one. You build for your enjoyment, not for others.
And there are a myriad of ways making a model of a Spitfire for example:
- Carve it out of wood
- Make a paper model
- Scratch build it out of plastic
- design in CAD and 3d print
- Buy a kit and build that
- Or even as one snarky individual said, buy a die cast replica and put that out
Is one more superior than the others? No. Our perception is based on our own expectations and what we expect from the hobby.
And never before we had such a broad range of coverage in this hobby. From the simple guy who just wants to build a nice plane, all the way to the scratch builders and rivet counters.
Just choose what you want and enjoy.
In my opinion all the examples you mentioned pay into the creativity section, yes. Everything thats added which isnt mentioned in the instructions. And often its done to make the model become more accurate, because the kit or instructions is missing certain details.
I just think high end kits shouldnt become the new standard and building something out of the box but adding some details from research shouldnt get less valued. Both are great options for a build and should not exclude themselves.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@chrisveya7556 well, you can say that the detailing progress itself can be creative. I do agree on that actually now thinking about it.
I don't think these kits will become the new standard. We already had these things in aftermarket. It's just now you don't have to hunt for it.
Don't think that scratch building and detailing is going to be devalued either. Sure, you are going to have people who will frown on your work, or even be petty and call you names because you didn't do something in the way they want it, but that's not the majority.
There is always going to be the thrill of creating something on your own and a lot of modellers are going to do things like that, but then some of them wont and that's fine.
Again, I think every type of model has its rightful place in the hobby, whether it is a retro kit from the 60s, or a modern day highly detailed one.
I tend to think that these modern kits are going to be a much better introduction to the newcomers than the kits of the old and in the end that's what we need to keep the hobby alive, fresh recruits.
I paid $50 dollars for some 1/35 scale pilots today, couldn't believe it. I already have a lot of kits I couldn't imagine buying aftermarket for all of them, I definitely need to shrink the stash.
Yes my wallet is happy i build in small scales mostly😄
maybe thats why takom and border models are including lots of optios for their fighting vehicles (stowage, spare tracks, fuel drums, etc.). About premium kits you´re absolutely right, Im a beginner but I feel the pressure when it comes to build expensive kits because I dont want to mess it. meanwhile a Im not worried about ruining a cheap kit wich I think are good to try new techniques and learn.
Canopy masks and a good instrument panel decal should be mandatory, in this day and age.
...and colored painting instructions!
Just building an Airfix Provost that I got from Aldi for the price of a four pack of German lager. Enjoying the build because it doesn't matter if I xxxx it up. Quite liberating. On the other hand, I'm avoiding the Kotare Spitfire, which I know is a simple build, but it would be a shame to waste it
Its necessary to build a simple and cheap kit out of the box from time to time i believe
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I’ve sometimes been put off kits that overly complicated, Have you ever started a kit got half way through then have to leave it for a while (may be years).
"A while" is an extenable undefined amount of time😄
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If this sort of stuff pushes your buttons in a kit you buy it.
If it doesn't you don't.
I don't like working with PE so tend to avoid kits with it in.
I never buy aftermarket, preferring to make my own.
Others love these things and that's fine by me.
It's about choice, and the range that is available now of both kits and extras only adds to this as a hobby.
Very well said👍🏻
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I'm 50/50 I like add on's but I also like doing my own thing, I've built all kinds of kits including that Mig 17, I try not to over complicate my builds and take it one step at a time. Thanks for the video, which makes you think.👍
I guess im about the same, like 50/50. If im ready for a longer taking project i take one of the more detailed kuts out if the stash
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Totally agree,I am the type of modeller Who usually buys the more detailed kits,Like Takom,Meng or RFM (I only do armour) and then I found a MiniArt T55 at my model store for only £40 and I knew I had to pick it up to see all the fuss about the amazing quality of the product.When I got home,I opened the box and instructions and the box is full,however I feel Like Miniart still leaves a ago for improvement and adding stowage,and as this kit was only for £40 I am not going to be scared to ruin it.I agree and Thats why I always buy tons of stowage,figures and other accessories and decals as it just makes it unique.Thanks for the upload! ;)
Exactly, the fear of ruin a costly product which is detailed to the max is real. Thats another aspect which is stopping me from getting creative on a model like this.
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I agree with your point. I do have some high end kits that include everything but I enjoy deciding what I want from aftermarket myself. Also, I am disappointed in how many people crap on vintage, raised detail kits without ever having built one. The creative decision making is the fun stuff
Yes the research is an important and fun part of the build and due to the decisions taken by the modeller it creates a personal note on the build which makes it more unique than others.
The premium kits are also fun and challenging but its on another level. Not necessary less, but just on another level.
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@@chrisveya7556 also, it’s not necessarily the inclusion of resin and photo etch that quells creativity. If you buy a Classic Airframes kit for instance, they have their own challenges even though they include extras 🤷 it’s all crazy isn’t it
I stick to the Airfix vintage classics. Cheap to buy and fun to build.
I like this choice👍🏻
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Crrativity to me exists in subjects like space craft ie starwars, startrek i use those kits as mules for all kinds of creativity in weathering and painting methods. Aircraft, armor, cars, people for the most part fallow photos of the prototype. More details? Bring it on
I took great pleasure recently, a few months ago, building Tamiya's old 88mm kit for the 2nd time. I was obviously aware that there are better, more modern kits available of this gun but sometimes less is more. I didn't even bother with a photo-etched set. I think as modellers you have to use a bit of common sense. So I have concluded The Rustyscale Show makes a good point that you don't need to have kits with everything in the box, you can manage quite well with kits that don't have everything. Having said that I do like kits with lots in the box, since I do 1/35 military modelling. I think that is a good compromise. Somethimes have kits with everything in the box & sometimes do kits that don't.
Also as the standard of kits goes up then making models sort of becomes more difficult. So again common sense is required. You don't have to do everything. You don't have to have everything. This modelling dilemma isn't going to go away, so modellers will continually have to use their common sense.
One more thing. At the moment in the world of 1/35 scale military modelling there seems to be a tendancy towards heavy weathering. I have decided to not bother with heavy weathering but instead to do what I call subtle weathering. You can always say no. Saying no is such a useful ability to have. Since I was a punk rocker in the late 1970s saying no comes really easy to me.
I totally agree and have come to the conclusion my best practice will be to build a high end kit from time to time but not let it become the majority. develop some common sense👍🏻.
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Its funny you mention heavy weathering because i started scale modeling to create heavy weathered models but with time i changed to a more subtile style, it just feels more natural.
Someone once commented: some people seem to celebrate poor maintenance of these vehicles, which is actually the key to keep them functioning and working properly
@@chrisveya7556 One of the people I take inspiration from is Verlinden. I noticed he used a subtle weathering technique & I like the look of his models.
I also agree with your point that AFVs would have been well looked after. With a crew of 4 or 5 men I am pretty sure it wouldn't have taken that long to keep the tanks quite tidy.
I saw some pictures once of German soldiers taking care of their motorcycles in a book I had about Grossdeutchland. I bet their motorcycles were kept nice & clean most of the time.
Hey Chris - I had to think about your words for a few days. It's easy to misunderstand creativity, because I think the original idea behind model making is to create a replica of an original that is as realistic as possible. There isn't much room for creativity because the target state is predetermined and any creative elements that are added without evidence would be out of place. But maybe you mean creativity on the way to realism. For example, “How do I get this or that problem under control so that I get the desired result?” Then I agree with you. One solution would be to buy models from the smaller manufacturers. A nice example could be SpecialHobby. There you often come across an interesting selection of models, the kits are fundamentally solid and - depending on your requirements - there is room for your own additional ideas or optimization. However, I would always recommend mainstream models to beginners, because otherwise frustration is inevitable. In this respect, we live in an almost perfect model building world -> beginners start with easily accessible kits and only learn about the other, more complex kits as they travel. Everyone can then decide for themselves how much effort they want to put in. The key word could be “challenge.”
Yes this is the kind of creativity i ment, for example if there are no cables for the landing gear breaks in the kit you can use painted wire to add this individual detail not everybody has.
You can research to get the details right, cause the kit is maybe not up to 100% correct. Its a creative process which is in my eyes very rewarding.
We are very lucky these days, there are so many options to choose from when it comes to get the accurate standard of model kit👌🏼
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I feel this kit represents an advanced from of a puzzle. Your putting together what is shown on the box. the amount of detail and effort doesn't necessary removes a persons joy, it just depends on the person. You can still set up a diarama with it, set up your own paint style and weathering so their is plenty of creativity. Finally your not forced to buy it. I honestly love mig products, but I don't have that kit and probably wont be getting it (Idont like the scale I prefer 1/72 for my aircraft)
Im sure this kit will be very joyfull to build. With all the extras and stuff. I will enjoy it, but not build kits like these all the time.
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I really enjoy your content, but in this commentary you are starting with a false premise.
As in any hobby the modeler always has a choice: if purchasing premium edition kits can literally cause that much stress - don't buy them!
Further, if a kit like this causes that much stress (assuming your serious) purchasing it and then complaining about it is silly and disingenuous.
Your analysis of the kit and its overwhelming nature (to you) ignore the type of modeler who appreciates all the 'extras' knowing there are no aftermarket products to search for and purchase.
Personally, I avoid limited edition overpriced kits but again, thats my personal opinion / choice.
This is a complete non-issue.
I guess this was the moment when i asked myself if limited editions are the way for me or not. Its only my personal opinion and not my intention to ignore anybody.
And i did not want to complain about the Ammo kit, its fantastic, it just created some thoughts about this topic in general.
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I don't think this is a bad thing. If you have the skill - and more so - the time - by all means, get the older model and scratch away. But if you - like me - build mostly OOB, well in that case you wan't the best base to start painting from.
I also think that you say "creativity" but realy mean "skill". For instance, you can build the new Magic Factory Corsair, add whatever aftermarket you want and still damage the prop like your model. But if one opts to use Quinta cockpit decals, resin seats and other ready to install / pre painted additions, those skills just won't develop.
I can't say if this is good or bad, but I can say that I build mostly OOB and a well done OOB cockpit will get more appriciation every time.
Also, I must admit that while I keep my older unbuilt kits (like the Dragon Ju-88) when I get a new kit I try to get the best one of the subject. Why? Cost efective and saves time I already don't have for modeling.
Very good points you got there. Thinking about it this way, id say the skills and the creativity are bounded in a way. If you get creative and add some of your own details and ideas to the build it will develop your skills in the meantime. But this needs some blank space in my mind to have room for ideas.
I guess with this video i found out these are two different types of scale model kit builds. And they require different mindsets.
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I was thinking this the other day. With manufacturers and skilled 3d designers detailing to the limits of what you can see, will we reach a “limit” of detail in the future? My motivation as a modeller is to make it as real as possible so you could argue your paining and assembly skills will need to improve. Alternatively, when you see the 3d painted decals for cockpits, is this cheating?
I think from what i see some modellers scratch build and add so many accurate details to their builds i dont see how this special craft could be topped. I think theres a limit of detailing according to the scale of the models.
I dont see it as cheating, only if the modeller would pretend its self made and not a 3D decal. But i think its a completely different approach and creates completely different outcomes.
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I would also recommend aftermarket only for older outdated kits. I bought 3D printed seats for the new academy A-10 and Tamiya F-35, really unnecessary.
This is good strategy i like it. If you can replace a rather dull looking not very accurate looking part it makes perfect sense.
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Super detailing a basic kit is much more challenging. It used to be called scratch building and is more creative and inventive.
Absolutely! No question about it. I mean assembling and painting a super detailed model is also challenging in its way but its different. Not necessarly less rewarding but just in a very different way.
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I had an interesting experience recently, I built Dragon's Neo Smart Kit of the Pz.Kpfw III Ausf L which has got everything you could possibly want already in the box, then shortly afterwards I built Tamiya's Pz.Kpfw III Ausf L. I used an Eduard etched set & got hold of some link & length tracks to help improve the Tamiya kit. I enjoyed building both models.
Therefore I have concluded that I like kits with everything in the box & I like kits that are more basic as well.
This is the weirdest sales pitch for Airfix Classics I've ever heard
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There exists no shortage of rudimentary model kits for builders who don't want to be made uncomfortable by challenging details. The idea that a detailed kit kills creativity makes no sense. There's not a kit in the world that includes every detail, and there are endless options for creativity in presentation (vignettes and dioramas). And of course there are also abundant opportunities in how a kit it painted unless the builder thinks weathered builds are "usually unrealistic" and therefore should be avoided.
Well i see it the opposite way, a less detailed model kit is more challenging because you have to add them details yourself and this requires a certain creativity. On the other hand, i think a highly detailed kit provides everything you just have to assemble it. It maybe takes more patience yes, but in my experience less creativity is needed, if everything is provided already.
You're assuming that the Ammo Mig kit is the standard for kits and I would completely disagree with that. Most kits on the market are still "regular" kits that come with the parts, decals and instructions. Loaded up kits like Ammo or the Eduard Profitpack kits are what I would call "premium" kits and are the exception not the rule.
Its true the majority arent high end model kits. I was just asking myself how i feel about these type of kits, because i felt something bothers me about it and i didnt know exactly what it was, because the kit offers actually everything and more.
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@@chrisveya7556 I consider the "loaded-up" kits to be a time saver in terms of gathering all the stuff I'd consider using on a build. I get what you're saying - I just never considered it an issue to have everything for a project in one place. Thanks for your video!
Давно, в статье в журнале "М-Хобби" прочёл замечательную мысль от моделиста и разработчика наборов дополнений к моделям: "Многие доработки можно и нужно делать самому, не превращая модельное хобби в соревнование кошельков"
Okey thats another perspective on the topic, of which i havent really thought about so far. Interesting way to think!
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I agree, as well.
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True creativity in plastic model making would be taking a pile of blank plastic, and building a replica of a real subject matter. The typical model kits from any of the known model companies such as Airfix, Tamiya, Revell, Hasagawa, Trumpeter, academy etc. Do not really involve much creativity at all. You have the parts all ready for you, with instructions, and some tools, and you glue it together. Doing some scratch building on to that model kit could involve some creativity.
Buying a super premium model kit with PE, resin parts etc, and buying aftermarket parts for your kit has nothing to do with being creative. It just gives you a much bigger, and fiddly model kit to put together.
More than anything else I would say that the number one "skill" that any modeller needs is patience.
If a build takes a lot of time to finish, i get weary with it and dont even want to add anything cause it would just extend the building time even more. So its more easy to have good ideas when i build a simple kit. On the other hand having a premium model kit from time to time is nothing bad at all. Everything is provided.
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i agree
I agree with Rusty. In my childhood when I started building model kits I had to resort to kit bashing for various reasons which are too long to list. And now I rarely build anything out of the box. But I can't justify buying a kit over $40 or more that has super detailing or above my skill level to damage it for my purposes or experiments that often fail. I tend to build armor kits in 1/48 scale and light military vehicles in 1/35 scale for fantasy and wargame figures.
Those modelers who like experimenting always have a certain amount of failures. Its part of the process. For me it will be like once or twice a year building a premium kit.
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it's taking the fun away
Not that these kits are not fun, theyre just different. But in a way, yes they somehow do to certain people
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Personally I feel that most AF sets are a bit of a waste. Unless it adds loads of details there is no real reason for it.
The standard of kits these days are such that 99% of the details are already included in the kit. Along with it mostly will get lost under paint and or weathering.
But in saying that, there is one area where I do prefer AF is in Seats for Wingy things. I find that out of the box sets lack real details in their offering and where a AF set would benefit the model.
Sometimes i wonder why people need to buy extra decals if the kit itself offers 7 different marking options already...
And yes, im not saying aftermarket is a bad thing and some manufacturers are offering high quality very detailed items to the models. Theres nothing wrong with it. Just maybe not for each and every build as the new standard.
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Who cares about creativity? Scale modeling is about replication, which is the exact opposite of creativity. Adding details and convenience to kits doesn't have any effect on the creative side, which can always be added to any kit regardless. If anything, having the details supplied means you can spend more time and effort on the creative aspects instead of the mechanical aspects.
It really depends on how your interpretation of creativity is. In my eyes every detail added to a model which isnt mentioned in the instructions pays into the creativity account. Its how i feel about it.
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Totally disagree with you.
Which is completely fine but nevertheless you got blocked & reported...
...😄just kidding of course, thanks for the feedback!
I agree 95%, here's my take: Ammo is a brand for stupid people who shouldn't be building models but collecting die cast models.
That is very condescending.
@@rogueplastic Your models look like sandpaper models?
Oh really? How come you think so about Ammo?
Keep it friendly please
@@PanzerChicken69 mate, watch your tone
If you're here to insult people, you might as well just leave.
Nobody cares about what you have to say, if you can't stay respectful to others.