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  • @ObeyThePapaya
    @ObeyThePapaya  2 місяці тому +10

    I want to mention to clear any confusion, DONT BUILD AZURE FIRST, its a last item finish, or a sell and buy situational item. Thats definitely the main concern. i may of not made it more pronounced in the video then i should have.

    • @sleepingvalley8340
      @sleepingvalley8340 Місяць тому

      Usually sell it for Combustion as 15 haste doesn't do much for me and I like the extra flat pen when on argus.

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      @@sleepingvalley8340 I wouldnt necessarily do combustion late, flat pen In theory falls of late due to base armor increases per level. Usually sold for situational / scaling options.

    • @sleepingvalley8340
      @sleepingvalley8340 Місяць тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya Combustion on Argus is the only time I have ever liked that item and by god I am gonna build because I usually don't get the chance to use it.

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      @@sleepingvalley8340 argus com isnt really that great tbf. mega procs far more often due to multiple hits in his entire kit.
      You could have strong 1v1s with it, but if your cooking your cooking am I right?

    • @sleepingvalley8340
      @sleepingvalley8340 Місяць тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya I don't care about it being effective I care more about the fact I build it I am tired of building the same variation is the spice of life.

  • @jacobbriggs6125
    @jacobbriggs6125 2 місяці тому +3

    Great video man I like seeing these videos that discuss what items actually do for each character and how it can diversify into other builds. Thank you

  • @EHcatches
    @EHcatches 2 місяці тому +6

    Mans went helluh official with the power point haha love it great vid.

  • @SharkZxD
    @SharkZxD 2 місяці тому +1

    Loved the video! Great to learn a thing at a time every now and then. Would love to see more like this!

  • @IlVanguardlI
    @IlVanguardlI 22 дні тому

    Thank you for the effort you put into this video!

  • @lights0828
    @lights0828 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this. Learning the basic of items n getting this insight and understanding is super helpful

  • @genericvillain7534
    @genericvillain7534 2 місяці тому +3

    More item reviews like this please! 🙏

  • @cercruder
    @cercruder 2 місяці тому +1

    Crunch's ability cast time is simply tied to attack speed, so a small change either direction is really noticeable

  • @shakysugars
    @shakysugars Місяць тому

    Thanks the information and sharing, hope to run into you in game soon.

  • @cercruder
    @cercruder 2 місяці тому +2

    I think you finish Fireblossom first like 95% of the time. You're already picking it to provide HP scaling heroes a bump in damage, so leaving that damage on the table from bonus health feels pretty troll.
    I'd only not finish it if I'm up against a magic user (think Shinbi, Countess, Morigesh, Gadget) AND they are ahead. In this case I'd consider going Brimstone into Flux Matrix to give you the "effective damage" increase and some magical protections.

  • @jclspice
    @jclspice Місяць тому +1

    Great information. For a newer player tho, it could be helpful to show the actual pictures of the items.

  • @kiaser21
    @kiaser21 2 місяці тому

    You can generally build using item passives, or build using things that scale on the same stat (movement speed, health, mana).
    Maybe comparisons between builds focusing in passives vs builds focusing on the same stat.
    For example, I've had really good results with a max health build with a immobile caster (The Fey). Orb of Enlightenment, Lifebinder, World Breaker, add a Megcosm and a situational in their somewhere as well, pick Tempest as your active and it does insane damage and healing, I've been able to 1v1 built Gruxs with this.

  • @SharkZxD
    @SharkZxD 2 місяці тому

    I'm on it. Azure Core PD is on duty!

  • @DecedentPP
    @DecedentPP 2 місяці тому

    Nice video, do more like this pls

  • @YC-tx3di
    @YC-tx3di 2 місяці тому

    Maybe also just give tips on good item interactions, items that pair well with each other.
    Good video by the way, we need more content like this.

  • @shawnFhtagn
    @shawnFhtagn 2 місяці тому

    W video!!

  • @jjm2980
    @jjm2980 16 днів тому

    Sees thumbnail, starts to build demolisher first item instead of alchemic rod on belica

  • @aaronmdepies8224
    @aaronmdepies8224 2 місяці тому

    Good to know.

  • @crondoggo
    @crondoggo 2 місяці тому

    Tainted 🔥🔥

  • @plokminge
    @plokminge Місяць тому

    I have a question
    I have a scaling build on argus that goes azure into orb then into pen items finishing with the crown.
    Early game is pretty slow, but once I'm 2.5 items in i destroy.
    Is this not okay?

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому +1

      Whatever makes u get Ws is good, but full building azure is really troll tbf unless last item.

    • @plokminge
      @plokminge Місяць тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya good to know, I need the mana sustain early game, as I'm leveling the infinite missile ability first. Any suggestions?

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      @@plokminge check my most recent vid, that build. Alch rod, wraith leggings, caustica

  • @Silent_Onis
    @Silent_Onis 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the tips! I don’t really build azure at all. Usually mega -> tainted scepter -> caustica. U sad tho, that instead of tainted scepter there are better mage items to build. Can u name some?

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  2 місяці тому +1

      I have a mage build guide I've done recently maybe 1 patch old but builds haven't changed for awhile.
      But wraith leggings is a very good 2nd item. Pen, easy build path.
      Timewarp if u feel you need some haste as well, strong build path.

    • @Silent_Onis
      @Silent_Onis 2 місяці тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya I’m gonna watch it, thanks!

  • @masterlessmish1049
    @masterlessmish1049 2 місяці тому +1

    Brimstone and fire blossom also activate Basalisk passive armor shred as well

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  2 місяці тому

      Good tip!

    • @andrewwilson201
      @andrewwilson201 Місяць тому

      Does brimstone/fireblossom passive proc worldbreaker as well?

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      @@andrewwilson201 megacosm does, so that 100% should but check in practice because devs inconsistent

    • @masterlessmish1049
      @masterlessmish1049 Місяць тому

      @andrewwilson201 ive had the thought as well but hadnt tested it if yes than Kwang, Steel or Riktor should hurt more often

    • @masterlessmish1049
      @masterlessmish1049 Місяць тому

      @@andrewwilson201 yes it does

  • @markmc5112
    @markmc5112 Місяць тому

    Does anti heal work on Greystone. I built Tainted rounds as the ADC and it never worked. He was immune and gota full heal off

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, i believe anti heal procs for 3 seconds, so if you hit him right before it ult, u should get him severely cut down HP.

  • @albertferguson8361
    @albertferguson8361 2 місяці тому

    Make a video talking about differences between mobas. I was all ove paragon back in the day and transitioned into smite. U could talk about laners not assisting the jungle on red or blue buff early, like you would in smite, stuff like that. Any way, nice vid!

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  2 місяці тому +1

      That is true, explain leashing isn't needed. I haven't played smite though and didn't take league competitively so it'll be pretty tough for me

  • @medicine2202
    @medicine2202 Місяць тому

    I come from smite and theres a item called Book Of Thoth that is builton ever mid laner for the most part. Book does the same as azoras, stacking item from kills that gives you % based damage that scales woth mana.
    My smite brain thought well both these items are the same and built on mids, it must be the best choice to get early lol
    I learned on my own that azoras is not a early game item even though it stacks , and stacking items are usally best to buy early.

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      Yup that damage comes once u get to 400 stacks!

  • @christos6462
    @christos6462 2 місяці тому

    Even though I'm plat, I deserve challanjour

  • @keezyofficial2664
    @keezyofficial2664 15 днів тому

    Is this worth watching post update?

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  15 днів тому

      Items have definitely changed , I do explain some meta stuff I believe that can still work but ya it's not it anymore tbh.
      I wanna make a video discussing current scaling but that'll be a minute

    • @keezyofficial2664
      @keezyofficial2664 15 днів тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya I’ll be here for that for sure

    • @keezyofficial2664
      @keezyofficial2664 15 днів тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya I’m gonna need a guide on every character plzzzz😭

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  14 днів тому

      @@keezyofficial2664 sheeeesh idk about THAT

  • @jakenewman2135
    @jakenewman2135 2 місяці тому

    I would love if you would turn up the capture volume in the mic, I’m about 75 on the volume in an empty room and still a little hard to hear you, love the vid

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  2 місяці тому

      I'm working on the audio. If you catch my newer videos , let me know how they are! I'm worried because I tend to get excited and will get loud. Should start improving!

  • @sillybugger3641
    @sillybugger3641 Місяць тому

    me over here just trying to find items that make sense 5 ganes in

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      Check out my omeda city / tips and tricks playlist.
      That will show you what the average builds are at least

  • @Little_Tree_Butt
    @Little_Tree_Butt 2 місяці тому

    Great vid ! Really informative thanks. I never play casters because I’ve never looked into what to build and I’m usually more of a tank/assassin player, so the talk around Azure core will help me if I ever play a caster that needs it (so I won’t be a bother for the team 😂)

  • @kguap9655
    @kguap9655 Місяць тому

    Best items for my horrible aim?

  • @ItsStellarSZN
    @ItsStellarSZN 2 місяці тому

    Here I am building azure first on gideon thinking I'm goated 😂😂

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  2 місяці тому +1

      If u gaming you gaming though!

    • @ItsStellarSZN
      @ItsStellarSZN 2 місяці тому

      @ObeyThePapaya but now wE getting better thanks to your video. APPRECIATE IT GANG

  • @ninponighthawk
    @ninponighthawk Місяць тому

    alchemical rod
    orb of enlightenment
    lifebringer
    world breaker
    oblivion crown
    sell alchemical rod for caustica.

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      Caustica should be 3rd item, if no tanks 4th

    • @ninponighthawk
      @ninponighthawk Місяць тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya so sell alchemical for oblivion?

  • @jayfox3628
    @jayfox3628 2 місяці тому +2

    Several items need to be rebalanced

  • @Jerohnable
    @Jerohnable 2 місяці тому

    You haven't said about Breach usefulness... How can you be that nasty?

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  2 місяці тому

      Breach is kinda lame much better crit items, mindrazor does what breach does but gives scaling, not worth building it tbh.

  • @tylermartin7136
    @tylermartin7136 Місяць тому

    Sorry, as a midlaner main, I have to STRONGLY disagree with what you said about mid building tainted scepter. If I'm going against a Countess, you rush that item. Specifically the tier two on that item. It helps to stop her healing through the early game quickly and without it, you can easily kill her and gain priority. Especially if the jungler will help with a gank. Also excellent to build against Khai/Grux jungle first item. They're nowhere near as strong early game, and can easily be killed by the midlaner with that one tier two item.

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      Meta shifted, I build it 2nd now usually

    • @tylermartin7136
      @tylermartin7136 Місяць тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya it's not about the meta. It's about who you're going against. Countess isn't as good vs that item. Without it, she's simply harder and more likely to engage with you early. With that, she literally can't engage. It shuts her down if you know what you're doing. That's all I was saying. She's the only Mid where that item is priority.

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      @@tylermartin7136 her lifesteal goes off takedowns, birch isn't gonna help much early.
      What's good about tainted is the haste and insane damage it's passive provides of stacking malice early game. It's combustion on crack basically.

    • @tylermartin7136
      @tylermartin7136 Місяць тому

      @@ObeyThePapaya you go from birch into scepter. But she still has life steal early, and it's strong. So, if you want to kill her, or gain priority, birch will help you bully her until you get tainted online. But it's the quickest way to shut her down.

    • @ObeyThePapaya
      @ObeyThePapaya  Місяць тому

      @@tylermartin7136 i dont think its the quickest way to shut her down, as I'm a countess main myself, but its good burst to counter her burst trades as well as minimize her life steal.