2022 Hoyt RX-7 ULTRA First Looks With MFJJ!!
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Sorry for the delay guys!! we JUST got these in the shop today!! one of 3 new 2022 bows from Hoyt coming at you!!!
stay tuned guys!! so many videos come your way- So excited!!
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The ultra in my shop was a little under poundage and the draw was a little short, yours may be as well. I averaged 323 at true 29.5/70. It's probably still a little slow but not 17fps
Exactly.
Interesting, Inside Out Precision also tested at exactly 30", 70 lbs, 360 grain arrow, including a peep and string dampeners, and he also got 325 fps.
@@kellenpucher2849 Every bow he tests is 10-15 fps slow its probably the chrono
@@vm859it may have something to do with the lighting
If you think 1899 is expensive, just wait until next year because raw material cost are through the roof. Keep voting Democrat and keep whining about cost !!
Amen !
AND I said I'd never shoot Mathews. Well that's gonna change.
I am assuming you were shooting the #3 cam in the 30" draw position. No way that the #2 cam maxed out in draw would be that slow. I can 100% believe the #3 cam at 30" being that slow.
Should have ckd the bow’s draw poundage and twisted up the cables to meet A to A. Would prolly been much closer to speed 🤷🏽♂️
I hope you do the new Highline review soon!
Love your reviews! Best out there!
Hoyt have priced their bows based on their egos i think. For me there are far better bows for far less. I could tell mfjj doesn't think much of hoyt. Alot of meh involved which i found funny. At least get your bows close to weight and IBO for $1900 hoyt. Personally id take a bowtech or mathews over this for $700 less all day.
Why is everyone complaining about prices Everything is going up this days. I'm in construction buisiness working with metals. This year alone material went up 50%. Don't expect to pay same as last year. Especially carbon bow.
Would the fact it’s long on the axel to axel mean that if you twisted the main string up to bring it into speck you might get more juice/speed out of it? And is that what you would recommend doing to bring a bow that’s out like that back in?
I like your reviews and can appreciate the honesty of your opinions. One thing that I have to question is your chrono, it seems as if it reads consistently low on every bow you review. Is there any bows that hit the advertised speeds through that chrono?
1899 is outrageous no bow on the market worth that
You sound poor
@@austinphillips9966 far from it ..just don't see the need to pay that for a Bow is all idc how good it shoots ..my 1100 bow kills them just fine ...
I’m poor and I still want one or maybe the RX 7 30” yeah in my dreams
Just wondering do you check the draw weight before your reviews, I've watch other reviews and sometimes the bow comes out of the box as low is 67lbs. Still awesome stuff thank you for sharing 👍👍
Yes, this bow was at 72.3#
@@joshjones6862 ibo is 80#@30 I thought? Or is it 70.
@@TORREX-A.D. 70
@@TORREX-A.D. your correct ibo is NOT 70 pounds and 30 inches of draw length. Which is why he is not getting the speeds he thinks he should be getting.
Ibo is 5 grains per inch up to 80lbs with a 2 pound variance and here’s the kicker “no specified draw length” this is why they can advertise these speeds. Technically speaking it is perfectly acceptable for IBO speed to be tested with a 400 grain arrow at 82 pounds at 32 inches of draw length. Or 31. Or 34. Or whatever length they choose to test from.
ATA speeds are 70 30 and 350 grains. With a 0.2lb variance. And draw length of + 1/4. So 350 grains 70.2 lbs and 30.25 inches of draw is the max they can test under.
Hoyt does list ATA speeds rather than ibo though.
@@TORREX-A.D. Don't listen to Jared. IBO is a 400 grain arrow, 80#(+/-2#), no specific draw length. If you don't believe me, it can be searched. This is how Manufactures inflate the numbers.
Can you do the hoyt rx7 twin turbo please!
You've spoiled us. Now when I watch reviews and people just list the specs without measuring them I feel betrayed.
Damn I'll keep my $400.00 bow.
Again IBO is shot at max draw weight 30 in. bare shaft at the min. shaft weight that will not blow the bow up, shot out of a machine. Always has been a joke!!!
I notice you always use the biscuit to run these tests, do you think it makes it a couple fps slower? Just curious how much it could actually matter for ibo ratings. Love the channel and content man, watch all your vids when they drop. Whitetail bow hunter from New England
All the test bows that all shops get come with whisker biscuit. Same as matthews
@@troynorden2557 oh i thought all the flagships come bare bow. Was jus wondering if it affected speed a maybe a couple FPS or how much exactly
Yes, it slows it down about 4 fps on average.
@@peterbuchholz1735 hey its something lol thank you, wasnt sure if it was more than like 2 fps
So, spec weight = 4.3 lbs. As shipped weight = 5.2 lbs. Gosh, I thought the whole point of an expensive carbon bow was weight reduction. Even at 4.3 lbs, this item seems bloated to me.
You should start checking the sctual DL n Weight of each bow instead of relying on the mod chart. Also check letoff to get a fair n accurate speed check
With these new prices the bows should be maybe .001 off spec and IBO/ATA should be dead on.
Thanks for the reviews 👌🏻
Thanks for cranking out the review, glad Hoyt scored with it.
Shut Up and Take My MONEY 💰 !!! Getting one soon.
So far the only 2022 bow review I have seen that the bow actually shoots IBO, is the new flagship bow by Bear archery. Disappointing considering these bows are selling for almost 2 Grand! WTF! My vxr shoots faster than that bow. Hoyt needs to quit lying and get their prices back down.
Have you heard about inflation? I don't think we'll be seeing lower prices unless something radically changes with the global economy.
The weight of that blows me away, even saying they aren't including the little knob. I mean for a carbon bow coming in at 5lbs. Jamon.
Love your honest reviews, very knowledgeable person, however watching this review and your ventum 33 pro review are almost a carbon copy of each other..lol.. i was thinking i was losing it had to read the titles twice... lol.. with that being said price point aside which of the 2 bows would you go home with if you had to pick one?
Sweetest bow I have pulled back in a while!
Why didn't you show the reflex measurement on this bow?
Sounds quiet on camera
I wish you would measure the draw length on a draw board and the draw weight like you measure the other specs! Otherwise, good review.
I shot it today & I could not agree more with your assessment. My RX-5 last year was sold right after I bought it. This bow feels & Sounds a lot better than my PSE Levitate just wish it was a little faster.
I’ve got a levitate also. I’d keep that over this one honestly.
How much does the whisker biscuit rest affect the speed vs a normal drop away rest?
Time for a new crono....
Is the RX7 totally made in the USA
Good review and fan of channel but idk what he’s been doing but his numbers are low. I’ve seen the rx7 ultra shoot a 408gr at 328 at 80# and I’ve seen multiple 70# setups get close to listed IBO rating.
One big factor could be he stated it was out of spec at 34-1/4 and assuming he didn’t correct it or could just be his chrono. As others mentioned he’s always low compared to others and what I’ve seen in person.
I will say unbiasedly that I had the V3X and the Ventum Pro and the Ventum pro feels HEAVY, so with the stock mini stabilizer he might actually be on point with the weight
Ok ok posing with the bows got me rolling over here hahaha
I would love to see the difference FMJJ gets outdoors on a sunny day with his chronograph vs in his shop. Lighting affects these things greatly. He seems to get slower speeds than other reviewers.
How does lighting affect it?
@@TheAmericanKid94do you not realize that almost all chronos have lighting setup on them? They use reflection of artificial lighting to measure the speed... They can be manipulated so bad indoors, and seem to have more accurate readings outside. No 2 chronographs will read the same for the most part. With that being said him keeping his in the same spot using the same lighting effects you can compare bows with each other.
Any plans to review the Twin Turbo?
Even if it shoots 500 fps. I just can’t get over a 1900 dollar “carbon” bow that weighs 5 pounds. Just ridiculous. At 5 pounds what is the point of carbon.
Almost a pound heavy....nice. 17 fps slower. More bull shit lying by a bow company
No check of actual draw weight, no check of actual draw length, whisker basket and I am guessing no check to see if bow is actually tuned tells me all I need to know about speed test. I appreciate your effort to do the review and take it with a grain of salt since the things that are controllable have not been addressed.
Well Karen, this bow was at 72.3# and I went back and measured the draw and its about 1/4" long of 30". I sell these products so you can bet I don't want them to look bad. My reviews are as honest and fair as you can get
Ooof, GOTTEM. Sit Down Karen 😂
@@joshjones6862 what's your height and draw length if you don't mind me asking?
Mfjj I’m sure someone has already chimed in with this comment but I’m pretty sure the reason you came in so below ibo is because the specs they publish are likely 30” DL & 80lb limbs…thought I heard you say that bow was 70lb. Anyway just my $0.02. Nice review!
The RX-1 is the worst flagship bow i’ve ever shot, good to see Hoyt has finally caught back up to the competition with the RX-7. The Pro Defiant is still probably the best bow Hoyt has made recently. Maybe this RX-7 can beat it finally.
Ya telling me lol im in the market for a new bow after having an Rx-1 built custom with 80 pound limbs. Its been 4 seasons now with it at 75# draw weight and 29.5” DL. A 70 pound new flagship is going to feel like a dream. Jus wish shops carried more brands locally. I have to travel a ways to hit all the brands
Not trying to be whatever, but have you even shot any of the Hoyt’s since then? The aluminum Hoyt’s have always been good imo. The carbon bows were not bad either. I liked the RX-1 personally, but the RX-3 and after fixed a lot of the problems that one had.
@@thehunter9149 i just want something with a much better draw cycle and updated cams, longer ATA and more forgiving brace height
Over priced. Over rated. Over Hoyt.
These bow companies won’t be happy till they have a price point over 2000$ no bow is worth that much and it doesn’t
Even cost them 1k to make a bow they’re gonna price themselves outta business
Yah maybe don’t use a whisker when looking at speed. Put a decent rest on wit minimal fletching contact. You could be losing 5-10 fps with that.
I've had to get an rx7 module 2 and an ultra module 3 to swap the modules over to get a rx7 ultra with a number 2 module. Unbelievable mess about getting what I need in the uk but im curious do you think this may not work? I mean it's still a hbx pro cam and I cant see any discrepancies between the rx7 and the rx7 ultra when trying to just buy a separate module. This should work right? But the draw length range is different between the mod 2 rx7 and the mod 2 ultra. So I am gtn a bit concerned
I have eight compounds, and at $1900 bucks, no way. No longer into hunt, no time.
Is the hump at the end of the draw the same or different between the Hoyt Carbon RX-7 (30" ATA) and Ultra (34" ATA) bows?
Lmao just saw a review on a PSE drive nxt shoot a 352 grain arrow @ 322 fps.
MFJJ how does this compare to PSE Levitate and Bowtech Zion? Any way you can do a carbon bow comparison video?
32 draw length and 70 pound would prolly get 334 I think the numbers are made off max everytning
No thx !! Way to much $$$$$$$
Josh- what are the draw length on the two modules? I’m at a 28.5. You said the regular rx7 has a module that begins at 28.5 so it would be quite a bit slower than on the 30”
Anyone know of any updates to the Ventum? I have this years 21 model and looking forward to a new design. I don’t like carbon bows.
up your audio a bit buddy
Have you done a video on the Twin Turbo? (Sorry if you have and I've just over looked it)
I can't see why a company would design a carbon bow that is heavier and slower than some aluminum bows.
HOLLY MOLY 😄thank you my friend I’m glad I bought last year Hoyt torrex XT one just like in your previous video I’m using 350g fmj arrow as target practice after nearly year I still shoot with 331 fps for the price I paid is really fast 💨 and dead accurate I’m really impressed with to torrex XT LD (long draw ones) but come on 1800 is not just sound ridiculous but it is !
Sounds noisy.
ATA is 1/4” long and you still don’t measure dl or weight?
Way to heavy....
Cool blog MFJJ I really enjoy your blog today. I'm a Hoyt fan I shoot the RX-1. That RX-7 ULTRA looks sick. What would you say would Good for my draw length I'm 27.5 draw length shooting 70lbs I was thinking that the regular RX-7 would be better for me. Please let me know what you would recommend for me buddy. Keep up the great work and content you put out I really enjoy it a lot!!!
I’ve been waiting for your review on this bow, it looks pretty sweet
I debated Hoyt in the comments of their YT video. This bow shows a bit of change and definite improvement, but the aluminum bows seem to be basically identical. They keep getting more and more expensive, and don't really give that much more feature wise.
Especially in a world where crossbows are taking over the industry. Reality is why spend $2500 on a compound when you can spend less on an equal compound or get a crossbow....that will out perform both.
@@KTMsoldier1988 Because, as it is said, "a crossbow is just a really s***ty gun" ;)
@@kellenpucher2849 this is true, but its easier to put meat in the freezer with a crossbow and more affordable.
@@KTMsoldier1988 and it sure as shit ain't archery hunting.
@@lugia233 no i 100% agree with you but in todays world humans are born to take the path of least resistance....the idea of a challege drives most people away. I started on crossbows because they were more affordable than compounds and get better performance. I have since switched to my mathews and havent looked back. 100% love hunting with my compound now. But performance wise it doesnt even compare to my $300 crossbow and i have probably over $2000 invested in my compound.
Nothing is $1900 impressive.
According to google, IBO speeds are obtained by an #80 draw weight, max draw length, and a 400 grain arrow. Ata speeds are the #70, 30, 350.
I believe they also have an acception of : -2#/+2# on draw weight & a -2gr/+2gr on the arrows..... So a 348gr arrow with 82# bow
1800$ for a bow they can shove it
What type of release are you using in this video? Appreciate your videos!
Are you going to do a rx7 30" review? If not what's your opinion on the 30" rx7? Thanks
When one finally shows up
center of axle. not outside edge to outside edge
I think the bear bows are the only company hitting ibo or at least close
Lighted nocks aslo eats some speed, and the vane position with whisker😉
How can they charge $1900 for a Chinese riser and Korean limbs?
Because it’s the best feeling bow out that’s why
Please review the Hoyt 'Highline'.
You'll probably get 334 at 80lbs.
That is a awesome looking bow. A lot of money
The thumbnail gets me everytime 😆🤣
Good $&# the price is ridiculous
What do you think about Athens bows??
This is BS..We archers just have to stomach these blatant lies these bow companies .
1 review does not a lie make.
What kind of lighted nock are you using?
What draw release are you using in this video?
You can’t shoot a wisker biskit and expect advertised speed
No way the WB costs 10+ FPS. This channel is way under on ALL bows.
Just curious what letoff was the cam set at? The higher letoff can be faster due to cam loading slightly more
More let off slower less let off bow is faster but it’s a hoyt they’re not speed bows
@@jasonnester9514 the way Hoyt let off is changed means the higher let off setting allows the cam to rotate slightly further, thereby loading more energy into the system. Just like a 30" draw loads more and shoots faster than a 29" draw would. There were a few YT channels that tested this with the 2021 Hoyt bows and everytime the 85% let off was faster than the 80%
@@joshuabates4759 wow that’s a big change
😂 I guessed 315 for the first arrow
Hoyt doesn't think of the poor man
Lol. $1900.00. Wait, let’s see if something is wrong with the set up. The speed is too slow. You have got to be kidding me. Have some of the bow companies forgot that working people have carried the archery community? I like Hoyt, but not a $1900.00 MSRP. Be certain, Hoyt is a fine company. It’s not the only one with a very expensive bow. Please pardon my sticker shock.
This year's PSE carbon bow is also $1,900. I realize people believe they are the ones who should set prices and want to determine how much a company makes off of each bow it sells, but it seems to be the industry price for a carbon bow. Carbon bicycle frames and wheels are also expensive. Hoyt has a $1,200-$1,300 bow.. and a $900 bow. As far as the speed goes, it has a 7" brace height.. so the speeds are going to be slower..
I'm looking at this bow and a Bowtech Revolt XL & Reckoning.. Will $600 matter if the bow feels significantly better than a $1,200 bow?
@@josephtardio1086 A set of Zipp bicycle carbon wheels go for $2500 +. That's not including tires or a cassette.
@@rickadams9 Yes.
You will get at least 5 feet a second faster without that whisker biscuit!
It's actually 1.5 fps, video on that being edited
Make sure it's at 70
What's the axel diameter on this?
speed and weight.......
What was the other 1900 dollar bow ?
PSE Carbon bow
Will this be a good first bow?
Certainly. Would be a good last bow as well!
Appreciate the honest comments. 1900 is a lot for a bow
What about the highline?
When one shows up
Like to see the RX7 vs the V3X.
The v3x is 20 fps faster 600$ cheaper and made in America instead of China. Not much to compare
Isn’t the speed that Hoyt does done at 80lbs 30 inch 350? I’m just wondering
Ibo for a 350 grain arrow is 70 pounds.
@@pik2490 ok I always thought it was at 80lbs that’s all. Great review though.
Im really first???? lol
Complimentary Rx7 for you
@@bowmountains3632 hahahahaha I bought a Matthews v3x 33 lol but I still have my Hoyt carbon matrix
@@garrettheapy7254 I’ve got the carbon element 👌
@@garrettheapy7254 The V3X 33 checks all the boxes!
@@jessephillips1554 it sure does! I almost bought a V3 31 but I really like the longer ATA it fits me awesome
I wonder if that Whisker Biscuit rest has any drag on the arrow compared to a drop away rest?
I truly like my RX5 and it shoots amazing. The first high bow I ever bought. However, with all the issues I had getting accessories for the for my Hoyt RX5, issues with nearly all my local bow shops when it comes to dealing with Hoyt specific bows, the limited upgrades on the RX7, and the high cost. I think I am going to get the Mathew's V3X and use my RX5 as a back up. After watching a lot of the reviews so far it's going to be hard to beat the V3X. Sorry Hoyt, when you get your act together I will jump back on board. In the meantime peace out.
MFJJ outstanding content! Keep the videos coming. Cannot begin to express how extremely helpful and educational your videos are for this newbie bow hunter. To bad you are not on the east coast.
You won't regret it. The V3X is going to be less money yet higher quality
Agreed wish he was around the East Coast
Josh Jones and S.V.A. some of the most
Informative vids around! He is absolutely one if not the best i have seen when of comes to all around knowledge about Archery!! Rock On S.V.A. n MFJJ!! 🏹
I just bought my first bow in the RX5 and have been waiting 3 weeks to get the integrated picatinny rail cause they put a right hand in with my left hand bow. Trying to stay positive but it’s ruining the experience.
Update, bought a brand new Matthew’s V3X 33 and the three pin Spot Hogg. This bow is freaking amazing. However I did have some issues but not from the bow, from the dealer. They installed the incorrect switch weight mod “Twice”. Quality workmanship is extremely hard to come by these days! Waiting on the correct mods now, should get them in about a week. Then back slinging some arrows down range.