Nurse on Trial: Reckless Homicide or Honest Mistake?
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2022
- A Tennessee nurse is on trial for mistakenly giving out the wrong medication, leading to a patient’s death. Radonda Vaught was charged with reckless homicide in the death of 75-year-old Chalene Murphey at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. Vaught was supposed to give her patient a mild sedative, but instead administered vecuronium, a powerful paralyzing agent that comes with a warning label. Fellow nurses from around the country are rallying behind Vaught to show their support.
The real crime is forcing someone who literally has your life in your hand to work 24 in a row. This is why mistakes like this happen
Preach!!!
She was distracted by her conversation with her trainee, part of which was talking about guests coming to town soon. No, she should have focused on her job.
How is it a crime if the person WILLING went to college for years to do this profession…. They knew what they was getting in to before they signed up for the job. Don’t be ignorant.
greedy for money. if tired then go home
@@helenhebert7127 facts
As a former critical nurse I know those two drugs would never be keep in the same area. The paralyzing drug is always keep under lock and key and is seldom used in a clinical setting. There has to be more than just a simple mistake.
Agreed. Actually made me wonder if the pixsys was loaded incorrectly by the pharmacist and the verc. was in the versed's spot by mistake. Otherwise it is hard for her to claim accident and have her coworkers supporting her.
That's a question unanswered. Why was such a powerful drug so easily accessible? How did this nurse get it ? Was it actually intended for some other patient or did some hospital staff leave it carelessly lying around? This person should be investigated first & penalized as well .
According to the testimony of other nurses the drug was dispensed from a system called Accudose using an override. They testified that at that time the system was having a lot of tech issues and nurses were instructed to use overrides to avoid delays.
@@SoManyRandomRamblings that was my thought exactly that somehow it was confused with versed in the pixsys
This was an override med. I believe that in this instance she could pull it.
I've been an RN for 30 years. EVERY nurse makes medication errors. If a nurse thinks they don't, that means they're not catching the errors as they happen. EVERY nurse makes these errors. We just hope and pray our errors aren't fatal.
Yeah, after a C-section I was given some heavy medications, within half an hour my husband said he had to stop two more nurses who wanted to also give me medications because the first nurse didn't write it down that I was given any...talk about overdosing a patient when there is protocols to aid in not letting it happen in first place. Nurses need to get off of high horses and show some due diligence. Same as when I told them I was allergic to Acetaminophen and to test it out guess what they gave me anyways! They said it was because they didn't believe me!...stayed two extra days to have my system flushed out and remedicated. Again, nurses have choices and not all nurses choose well. Tired or not, they playing with lives
@@notyouraccount7497 good thing you were there to catch that
@@RideRedRacer good thing my husband was there to question them! I was already out of it. I wouldn't have known. Scary how many nurses don't care to do the protocols that have been set in place for them
The problem is at what point is an error a chargeable crime? Even if an error wasn't egregious but contributory to a patient's death, is that crime? Where do you draw the line? Patient outcomes, patient satisfaction will take a backseat to self protection.
Yes, I’ve made several medication errors. Thank God they never cost anyone their life.
This is every nurses worse case scenario.
I would be curious to know what other factors contributed to her making this kind of mistake.
What was her patient load like that night?
Did she have multiple patients with high levels of acuity?
What systems did her hospital have in place to prevent this kind of mistake? For instance, did she pull this medication from an Omnicell or a Pyxis, locked systems which should give alerts and often requires a co-signature from another RN to pull sedatives and narcotics?
Did she have to scan her medications before administering? If so, why didn’t she? If not, why doesn’t the hospital have this process in place?
Before we charge a nurse with a criminal offense, we need to make sure the systems in place aren’t the true offenders.
Exactly. A paralyzing drug should require a double signature. Versed doesn’t.
So she should be guided through her job constantly?
@@rosieo5481 when was the last time you were in a hospital? You think theres always someone on hand to "sign off" then & there when it's needed?
My same thoughts.
My understanding was the Omnicell was having issues and everything was requiring over ride for removal and the medication was given in MRI so there was not access to a computer to scan the med.
My wife died from someone’s “mistakes” after giving birth to my daughter. 13 years later and I still wish I had pressed charges!! I was also never informed she had passed away, so the first hint was the organ donation place calling me asking when they could get her body!! I said “She’s gotta be dead first, right?”......all the lady could say was “you should call the hospital NOW”.
I’m so sorry 💔
what!? I really would like the rest of this story.. that’s insane. so sorry.
I am so sorry for your loss.
That is inexcusable. I’m so sorry for your loss.
Why can't i get that lucky
As a nurse we know this is possible which is why due diligence is your responsibility. Nurses make mistakes minor ones but one like this should not happen. Too many alerts were in her face so this is a question of competence. I have been a nurse for 30 yrs and really don’t see how you confuse an anti anxiety medication with a paralyzing agent unless you cheated you way through nursing school.
Exactly. Well Said.
Have you ever heard of the Julie Thao story? Nurse from Madison, WI. You should watch her speech.
Quaid's baby was given the wrong medicine because two boxes looked similar. That was an honest mistake. This seems irresponsible.
@TexasBoomstick lmao
If the distraction is there and the floor is loud ,chaotic, and short staffed,you'd be amazed. If you work at a office, or a place that you have one patient at a time,you won't get it
Imagine being the family, and seeing all these people show up in support of the person who killed your Mom.
WTF, being a human making a honest mistake, btw, family were support of her they didn't want her to have these consequences
I've had a nurse hand me someone elses medications by mistake too. I let them know, and they were very apologetic. These nurses work LONG 12 hour shifts and sometimes even more. I've also had a nurse overdose me on a medication by mistaking a "1" for a "7". Stuff happens, this nurse does not deserve to be in prison for an honest mistake. At the very MOST, maybe lose her nursing license.
When I was in the hospital for my third knee replacement they had a machine on me all I had to do was push a button and Fentanyl was dispensed when the dr said they could discontinue it three nurses came and watched as they discontinued and poured the rest down the sink..
That’s true but at the same time I work with animals and also work long shifts and I have to give some medication. It’s general rule of thumb to always double check what medication you have check how much to give and after filling the syringe or needle check again that it’s the right amount and the right medication. I’ve almost made mistakes with medications before that’s why it’s important to always double check and if your not sure ask someone it much better to take the time to ask them to guess and be wrong.
I do feel bad for her, but ultimately her mistake cost someone their life. Look at that cop who grabbed her gun instead of her tazer. She faced charges. This should be a wake up call to all hospitals that they need to do better, and put precautions into place so stuff like this doesn’t happen.
@@courtany7871 Your work is totally different from your nursing. Nursing is much more complex and challenging. Double checking is not a good advise for nurse cos that is not acceptable in nursing. They have to follow 10 rights of meds admin, they follow a protocol in pouring a medication, independent double check for high risk meds, proper assessement pre-post med admin. That’s only 20-30% of what nurses do. It’s a more complex job that needs a lot of critical thinking to keep people alive.
Me too I reported it and the nurse lied about it
As a medical provider, I can tell you that this is not a mistake a nurse can make. You CANNOT make a mistake between Vecuronium and anything else as the label alone is unmistakable and unique. That kind of mistake isn't distraction, that mistake is complete incompetence. I want you all to imagine being awake and paralyzed so you cannot breath, you cannot blink, you cannot do anything but lay there listening to the people around you while you die. As a fellow ER nurse of 35 years, she needs to be held accountable.
Spare me
Have seen similar errors
When you create "check-box" medicine, you get workers who stop thinking.
Have you ever been forgiven, in the internal self reporting opoid use & abuse system? You know, the one you can admit to, relapse, beg 4 forgiveness, relapse again? Nah, ait. Nvm
When is there a time that a paralyzing agent would be needed? So much so that is next to the mild sedative medication?
What is the medication used for then if it kills people?
Let’s hope you never make a horrible mistake
Some people forget that committing a genuine mistake doesn’t mean you shouldn’t receive repercussions.
I mean its labeled paralyzing agent on the bottle...the only way she could miss that is if she's drunk
Public service as well.
They say someone on that medication needs monitored and monitors placed on the body.
@Tom Cruise I guess it wouldn’t be as harsh if the patient was still alive maybe but it caused death so they may want to find someone responsible and this could be a way of them making an example maybe ?
She should get 10 years in jail and never be able to hold a job again. Also I hope the Karen’s in the video supporting her get into fatal car crashes. We can’t have those type of nurses working
It’s scares me to hear that lady from Las Vegas say “nurses make errors everyday” ? I operate heavy machinery for a living and have been for about 4 years now I’m still new to the game but with that being said I’ve never made a mistake operating my machinery I take tons of precautions and check multiple times before I make any movement I can’t “make mistakes everyday” I’d lose my job and probably kill someone and be held accountable for it ..
Exactly!!!
You only have one machine to run. Nursing requires several distracting multitasks each minute. Not even close.
I mean--I don't support what this nurse did, and I do think she should face serious consequences, but you don't work 12 hour shifts, or longer, and you don't work in career which infamously understaffs. Your career is nothing like the career of nursing
@@TheSingularity2 your right it’s not even close what I do is way more complex, running just “one machine” involves multiple things so you better know how to multi task while operating anything your never just using one lever and your never looking one way your head is constantly on a swivel and your looking around 24/7 with seconds to think of your actions not including physical surroundings people, buildings, cars you get the point and add a signal man on top of all that and your almost at the “one machine” running one machine is like being in a one man band.
@@str82it10 your machine doesn’t spit at you or assault you. Also add mandatory answering the phone and responding to alarms from other machines while doing all you described simultaneously then yes it may be comparable.
The issue is that mistakes which lead to deaths need to be treated accordingly. Failing to properly secure a heavy load on a truck that falls and kills a motorist should probably get some sort of punishment.
That’s why we have civil courts.
@@linkjourney422 it’s criminal
@@linkjourney422 There was just the sentencing for a very similar circumstance, a driver loses control of the work rig. A criminal accident In Colorado. The BP captain a few years back got criminal charges for his oil spill accident.
In some professions there isn't a lot of room for human error... Nursing is at the top of that list. At the end of the day, her negligence caused someone their life.
Blame hospitals for intentionally understaffing because they dont want to spend the money to have a adequate staffing
At the end of the day, people make mistakes. While there isn't a lot of room for human error, there is, by your definition, SOME room for error. To charge her criminally is obscene unless she is proven to be careless multiple times.
@@thatdamncrow9197 we don't know her situation and never will
Not to forget that the nurse did accept her mistake and didn't hide it. Most people in this condition would have hide which has led the lower rate of reporting of medical errors which could have been prevented. We learn by mistakes, accepting and later avoiding such mistakes. So I think medical monitoring will have a report and will find a solution to the problem creating this situation.
Not saying she should due 10 years, but yet she didn't kill my grandma. Even thinking about not having my grandma around due to someone's negligence, I'd probably be so enraged id want more years.
My job doesn't result in life or death situation but it does risk people's confidentiality. I am overly cautious with how I send information and save documents. Why wouldn't nurses be this way with medication?
I'm an RN- yes, we can make mistakes. But I'm well acquainted with the circumstances in this one, and she SERIOUSLY f-ed up. This was negligence pure and simple.
Maybe she was tired or tipsy?
@@oldi184 a float and in an unfamiliar care setting is my understanding. You can always request a reassignment if you feel your knowledge/training is inadequate for the shift they put you on.
Well, at least RN's can demand more pay and better staffing now. If you're going to imprison us for mistakes, up my pay and make sure we're well staffed.
Agreed. She needs to never see the light again.
@@pugilist102 agreed. I will not minimize the administrative clusterfuckery on staffing, etc., that lead to this incident- but, a bad nurse is a bad nurse regardless of extenuating circumstances.
This drug should not have been available to her for the mistake to be possible. It is a system issue. Only people qualified to administer this drug should be able to get it .
System error. Something was bound to go wrong with how everything was set up. Sad it cost a woman her life. I encourage everyone to look at both sides of this, yes it is easy to blame the nurse as one has to check the 5 rights ( right patient, drug, amount, route, time, and dose) before administering a drug but I truly believe it was a system error, Vanderbilt did not report this because they knew they messed up. Instead they fired the nurse, and settled with the family. This never would've came to light if someone didn't anonymously report it. A tragic situation indeed but the nurse is NOT the only one at fault.
Thank you!!! How was it this easy to grab this serious medication. And why weren’t the alarms effective? What is the point of ineffective stop points?
But someone has to be thrown under the bus and she's the best candidate! That stuff is under lock and key ,so how did she mix it up with another medication?
They didn't report it? Yep, wasn't just the nurses fault obviously.
@@jrambo7495 maybe she really didn’t mean to mess up? Maybe she thought she wouldn’t get caught 🤷🏽♀️
@@jrambo7495 I thought the same thing as well, but apparently everything was in override due to them switching to Epic. So a float truly had full access to this. It was a giant smorgasbord. I’m realizing more and more how badly the hospital screwed up. This was so avoidable, and she REALLY should not have made this mistake, but needless to say, I’m fuming at the administration as usual
My sister was giving birth and was given a bracelet that stated the she was allergic to penicillin and another nurse came into the room and was about to inject her with penicillin before I asked what it was and I stopped her, so even if it’s a mistake a nurse should always be alert I’m sorry she’s at fault 100%
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@@tvm-manducktv8375 you commented this on another video
What will a prison sentence fix?.. it will only ruin her and another family it will accomplish nothing
The family doesn’t want her charged.
@@anthonyromeo604 *Imagine How Many Countless Black Families Felt When Many Young Innocent Black Men Were Jailed Without Ah Fair Trial.*
Here, right here is why I gave up nursing in 2019 after 15 years. The workload and nurse to patient ratio's make it dangerous to practice. I feel for this nurse and for this family. When is this nation going to realize our healthcare system is another casualty of corporate greed? There isn't a nursing shortage, there is a shortage of nurses willing to risk someone's life to keep practicing.
Rightly said Barbara. From a fellow RN
I agree with you completely. I didn't give up nursing but I did retire after 35 years. At the end of my career the best thing I could say after a 4th 12 hour shift was, I didn't kill anyone today.
100% corporate greed. And no one talks about how 16 hour days is normal in this industry. It is NOT normal! The last thing I want is a sleep deprived nurse treating me
Agree 100% from a cardiac nurse in acute care. Healthcare is in dire need of reform I hear nurses in skilled nursing facilities taking over 30 patients, nurses in FL and VEGAS taking over 8 patients how is this safe? We need nurse to patient ratios nationwide like we have in CA 4:1
Genuinely curious, what do you think her consequences should be?
Yes, she made a mistake, HOWEVER she made that mistake being negligent. That's negligent homicide.
A person could cause a car wreck killing another person, but all of a sudden when a nurse who accidentally kills someone its okay and "just a mistake" The nurses supporting her need to realize she needs to be held accountable. She was taught to be careful and how to prescribe things. It's okay to make mistakes, we're not perfect, but her mistake cost the life of a patient. Nothing can bring that poor lady back to her family. I believe she should be fined and jailed for at least 5 years for negligence
But they probably had her working on extreme hours leading to this
@@Sangodele She was on day 2. Prior to the two days she had worked she had 7 days off. She stated she wasn't tired or pressed when she was asked about it to the nursing board.
Keep the same energy for police officers too
@@Sangodele a lot of nurses can work extreme hours, especially during covid. However, this does not warrant mistakes such as wrong prescriptions (especially since it had the label warning where it is clearly seen)
@@xxblackgeishaxx I do, I believe they should be held accountable for their actions. I've seen lots of footage of police abusing their powers so I believe in re-training the current officers (the ones who haven't commit crimes) The ones who do, such as commit murder or abuse people should be fined and jailed, as well as fired with no return
Yes, humans make mistakes. BUT her mistake led to the death of a human. You can't just brush that away. The number of nurses that supported and said this is okay scares me.
Exactly: it was a mistake. Mistakes should not be punished. YOU cant brush away the fact that it was a mistake.
Then stop going to hospitals, ever.
@@Goodkidjr43 it was not criminal. If she was a cop she would have got promoted and a 6 week paid vacation.
There not supporting the terrible tragedy they just think it's unfair to call her a criminal for something she didn't mean to do . Sad for both sides obviously no doubt about it n
@@Joffar I don't even go. Its expensive .3.
Nurses make errors. And they're indicted. Doctors make errors and their insurance companies pay out to the families to compensate for those errors. Am I missing something here.
@@purple1804 He’s right though. My uncle developed sepsis and died because a surgeon left gauze inside his body. The insurance company paid his wife and that was the end of it.
Doctors just get a slap on their hands, but nurses face losing their jobs for any mistakes.
We should jail all healthcare professionals who make human errors so those who get hospitalized now have to pay 5x the medical bills.
“We make errors everyday.” -Nurse.
Thanks, I feel real safe now
Much respect to her for owning up to her mistake..... prayers to both families.
What's really scary is how many of those nurses think this is okay
I totally agree.... yes we all make mistakes, but this mistake cost someone their life and u have to face the consequences of your mistake..
Exactly!!!
It's how she is being tried. If a doctor kills someone on accident they don't go to jail.
They don't think it's OK. But they think that there should be some leniency because it's not like she did it on purpose
@@floridaviolets9601 But doctors SHOULD go to Jail.
I understand making a mistake. But, "oops sorry I killed your loved one" is kinda not forgivable and something you can't just brush aside. smh 🤦♂️
To be fair though every nurse and doctor have probably done something like this
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@@slabbygabby Every nurse and doctor accidentally killed someone? Get a clue B!
there's a reason why people become teachers and not other professionals....other professionals take personal and legal risks every single day, like cops......you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.....why not just take an easy tenured job with summers off...
@@slabbygabby no I highly doubt most have
Usually something like this is handled as medical mal practice and heavy civil litigation. Never thought a criminal charge would be levied.
I think the big question is what distracted her? Was it the responsibility of too many patients? Being pulled in 10 different directions? Or was it a cell phone? Medication errors happen and there needs to be ownership. Discipline from the Board of Registration and the hospital if it was say a cell phone. But charging for homicide is a bit over the top.
She not only made an egregious medication error, she walked away from her victim and did not monitor her. Clearly criminally negligent homicide and the jury agreed and found her guilty.
I think this type of situations happens often enough that she is being made an example. The fact when it happened and she was reported to the state nursing board and STILL allowed to keep her license is extremely troubling. The only reason why this blow to this proportion is because of an anonymous call to the state DA….then, the board took her license away
The fact that the Nurse at the end can say that Nurses make "mistakes" with a smile on her face, but not acknowledge this poor woman's death or her families grief indicates that Psycho shouldn't go near patients.
What? Every single human makes mistakes from nurses to doctors to surgeons like they leave things in people all the time that cause deaths and get away with it but one nurse does something that leads into a death and boom the whole country wants the death penalty like what and that other nurse is what she is saying she shouldn’t be trialled for the full extent of the crime and i agree in my opinion but it still was a mistake that caused a death so she should face some charges and time behind bars
Poor woman? She was in her late 70s. Get over yourself.
@@Joffar he age doesn't matter though. Wtf dude
@@user-zj5rb3xo7d I agree, this is getting a bit out of had. If she made the mistake because she was on her cell phone or something like that I could see it.
@@Joffar exactly
If you want less mistakes like this, how about you don't overwork healthcare workers and pay them a fair wage. This is like society shooting their nurses and healthcare workers and then also blaming them for bleeding. Shame on this society
Why not have a supervisors signed off on it?
I'd say $1200. per day is fair enough compensation already. Do your f@n job correctly. As a pilot in charge of 700+ lives a day we aren't allowed to make mistakes and make a $1000.00 LESS per day than your average "health professional"...
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you do raise a good point, corporate greed is also responsible for this
@@funwoodz $1200 per day? What planet do you live on? Also nobody believes you’re a pilot. 😂
Every patient needs someone to watch over them and to ask questions about every medical procedure.
Mistakes happen all the time.
She withdrew from an automated dispensing machine which asked her 4 times that this was a paralyzing agent, and it was labelled also. She should know what that drug was.. at first I supported her util I read the details. She over rode the warnings four times.
Vecuronium needs to be reconstituted, mixed, then administered. That's a huge mistake and the facility should consider better safe guards for administering meds. My hospital system has nurses scan all meds before administration to ensure the correct medication is given. I feel bad for everyone involved.
There were multiple warnings on the screen stating this is a paralyzing agent when she was pulling the medication from the machine. Apparently, the hospital system was operating in downtime, so no meds were able to be scanned before administration.
You don't scan meds during MTP. We don't know the entire story to base judgment on this 2 minute detail.
@@Me-gh4qu Correct but the warning screens where still there. My guess is she pulled all of them at once, got them all set up and didn't know what in what syringe. That is not how it is done.
Same for my facility … We scan before administering as well …
Vec should have never been available to override without 2 nurses to cosign! This nurse made some tragic mistakes and lost her license, which was appropriate but she should not be CRIMINALLY charged.
The nurses logic is pretty disturbing imo. "If we can't have leniency for killing a patient due to recklessness why would we continue to be nurses" um what?? Like yes it was an accident but that's still considered manslaughter
Right,that nurse needs to do life in prison and those other nurses need to lose their jobs for supporting her.
I think you’re confused about nurses and what they do
@@atrainbrady3208 life in prison 😂
What she means is nurses will now be scared of reporting errors to their staff which means medical errors would sky rocket and patients would lose their lives over something that could have been prevented if nurses weren't so terrified of speaking up. Think of how worse the pandemic would be if no one reported errors. We would just keep making the same mistakes resulting in many unnessary deaths
She definitely needs to be held ACCOUNTABLE!!
Her negligence and recklessness is why the patient died. She is GUILTY!
My mom woke up in her hospital room with three nurses standing around her watching her heart rate go lower than 40 bpm. They didn’t try to wake her up or anything. She woke up on her own surrounded by nurses saying that her heart rate was severely low. They told her they had been watching it dip for over 30 minutes. My mom used to be an RN and asked why the hell they didn’t wake her up or get a doctor. They also casually told me that she stopped breathing a few times in the night and asked if that happened often. Wtf?!?
That’s just horrible. Did you or mom make a complaint? Years and years ago my mom was very sick and her lungs failed so she was put on a ventilator. When she was better, the doctor told her, my dad, and me that he didn’t want to keep her on the ventilator because her lungs might become dependent on it. But he then warned that her lungs may not start up again on their own. She had a DNR, so we knew if her lungs didn’t start, that was it. I asked the doctor if we could be in the room with her when they removed the ventilator (in case the worst happened….so she’d be with family), and he said absolutely. He said it would be awhile before the ventilator would be removed, so my dad and sister left to get a bite to eat, and come to grips. I stayed and about 15 minutes later, 2 nurses came to remove the ventilator like it was no big deal and said I had to leave. I refused and told them what the doc said and to wait for my family to return. They said no and a third nurse came in and physically made me leave the room. My mom was awake and entirely aware and terrified…I’ll never forget that look on her face. I could see through the glass and I called my sister and she and dad came back fast as they could….but it was done by the time they returned. FORTUNATELY, mom’s lungs kicked in. But I was never so furious in my life at the horrible non-communication between doctor and nurses and the nurses’ complete unawareness of the gravity of mom’s situation…it was the ICU even. They even chatted to each other and laughed as they removed the ventilator, my mom and I staring at each other in horror through the glass. I complained to the nurse supervisor, but didn’t take it further and that’s a HUGE regret I have.
@@jjones9395 that is pretty much unforgivable. What horrible nurses and hospital staff.
My God...it sounds like they were just waiting for her to die
@@jjones9395 I’m sorry you had to go through that but as a respiratory therapist sometimes extubating a patient can be very gruesome for the family because a lot of spit and vomit comes out not to forget the NG tube which also has a lot of stomach contents. Sometimes it’s best to have the family step out, I had some situations where loves one end up passing out from seeing extubations. But every hospitals is different with their protocols but if the family is okay with and want to hold there love one hands to make them feel better, then it’s okay with me
@@sinuzb3115 Thank you for explaining the reasons why family probably shouldn’t be present during extubation. I understand now, but no one explained then. Even afterward. The doctor probably wasn’t aware of the protocol and maybe he didn’t even tell the nurses the situation, heck…maybe his warning to us that her lungs might not kick in was just standard as well. But he did seem awfully serious at the moment and mom had been battling lung cancer, so … I dunno. It wasn’t their protocol that upset me, it was that the nurses had absolutely no regard for what I told them and not only wouldn’t they wait for her husband and other daughter to return (again, so we could say goodbye if lungs failed, to have her husband by her side when she’s scared at her possible ending), they then proceeded casually with the procedure…chatting to each other and giggling…instead of guiding my mom thru the process. That’s what absolutely galls me. Fortunately, we were at her side when she died seven years later. Again…thanks for your explanation, it did help me a bit. God bless you and what you do.
Just because the mistake had no ill intent behind it does not mean she was not in the wrong. Patients put their trust in nurses to give them the right medication and instruction on how to take it. If she failed to do that leading to someone’s death she is 100% responsible for breaching that trust and leading to the death of this woman
What about the doctor mistake or the hospital that over work nurses
fair enough
@@gerardgrant4034 overwork is no excuse to give out life or death medication blood is on her hands that’s like saying dui killing is a mistake you will still deal with the consequences
@@gerardgrant4034 Every nurse has been over worked since 2020. Sadly it's not just the patients that suffer too, Nurses do too.
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There is a huge difference between a human mistake and being reckless and incompetent. I was a nurse tech and med tech for years. To mix those medications up accidentally doesn't make any sense. This is a situation where she definitely needs to be held accountable. If it wasn't for her that lady would still be here
Just to clarify, do you mean med tech as in you worked in the lab? Or did you work with patients?
@@NoIDontActuallyLiveInSeattle med tech is lab only related n yes nurse tech works with patients only
@@NoIDontActuallyLiveInSeattle I worked with patients, I had two wings of my own that I did in a senior living home. I counted meds, gave them out, did blood sugars vitals etc. I was a medication administrator. And a nurse tech also. Working hands on with patients aside from just meds.
Even if It was a mistake she still deserves to be punish cause her error caused the death of another person
God all those other nurses saying “mistakes happen” make me *NEVER* want to go to a hospital again.
You should never want to step foot outside of your house neither. Especially don't get in a car because mistakes happen.
Pretty sure nobody close to her has died due to a "mistake" that a nurse made and quite scary that she just casually says "nurses make mistakes on a daily basis." If that's the case they shouldn't be allowed to nurse.
No one is forcing you to go to the hospital.
It's kind of scary how cold all the nurses act. like ya it happens but we try real hard!
@@paulskopic5844 Sometimes it's, you know, UNAVOIDABLE.
If it was my Mom, I would want justice. Everyone should be held accountable, 4 their mistakes... I'm sorry, but a life cannot be replaced.
If this was my mom I would ruin this nurse. I would make sure her life was absolutely ruined.
@@carlycrays2831 there is something seriously wrong with you people! I hope you never make a mistake that you need forgiveness for, because God doesn’t like an ugly heart. Have some forgiveness for your fellow human. 🙄
You don't think that Mrs. Vaught doesn't live with that guilt every day? She made a simple mistake. She didn't mean to kill the patient.
Yes everyone commits mistakes. But when someone dies because of your negligence, it is only fair to face the consequences of your action. Someone else's loved one died.
I like how inside edition conveniently left out how the nurse was cleared by the Tennessee board of nursing and the family settled with Vanderbilt. All of this was kept under wraps. It wasn’t until a person alerted the public to this incident over a year after it happened, that suddenly the DA who was also a professor at Vanderbilt decided that charges were in order. Oh yeah and originally Vanderbilt physicians declared the patient’s death natural causes by brain bleed.
"We all make mistakes"
Except 99,999999% of those mistakes don't lead to someone's death.
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almost all mistakes can lead to a death, technically. if someone unintentionally does something, its not their fault, no one is at fault
Why train as a medical professional? So we don't make life-threatening "mistakes".
We're human, we all makes mistakes in our lives. We all have sin and come short of the glory of God. It was an accident. People who fell asleep everyday while driving and cause accident they dont go to jail.
Humans make mistakes, which is why I think the hospital should be held accountable for not having a system in place to prevent fail safes, double redundancies etc. If this is how they operate, that's on them. With what the healthcare system charges for these services it is abhorrent that there is not a better system in place.
Agree
the hospital did have a safe guard system and would take you 10 seconds to google to actually find out. she manually overrided the safe guards
We do have those systems in place. She didn't use them.
Exactly!! Why didn't the pharmacy make the Versed available faster? Why wasn't it on the patient's profile in the pyxis? Why wasn't Versed available as Versed in the pyxis? Why was Vec available for ONE nurse to override? Why wasn't there a scanner in the MRI room? Why wasn't there a sedation monitoring policy in place and enforced? This nurse is not the sole cause of the error! She is not a criminal.
There is systems in place. I don’t understand how she gave this medication without encountering at least one of them. She obviously ignored them
I love that nurses argument. "If we keep getting tried for accidentally killing people, no one will want to be a nurse!"...I'm sorry, what??? I need to keep a picture of her so I know if I ever see her as my nurse to run away as fast as possible.
She is right. It is already happening with police. Would you go to prison for a mistake at your job?
This case is like the truck driver who was pressured to work in bad conditions, tired and overwhelmed.
It's time to make employers accountable for their part on pressuring employees. !!
With some mistakes you cant just say, "oops, I'm sorry" and make it all better.
Wen did she say oops I’m sorry???
She has said shes made a mistake, she isnt brushing it off lightly, ans yoy dont know the whole situation
Profound
@@fbaguy5661 they never said she said that its an example of what the situation was….
Yeah. That was the attitude all those nurses had. Disgusting.
My 18 year old daughter died because of an emergency room mistake. She deserves time
sorry for your loss
How will serving time make things better?
@@barneyronnie By scaring the others so that they take things 100% serious.
@@SuperMario-jx8zp k but that will prob scare others away from becoming nurses
@@jinxthesweet if that means the nurses left will be more competent and won’t kill people then that’s a GOOD thing
if it was a mistake, it was a chain of mistakes.... gross negligence
Gross negligence. That's what it is.
Complacency isn’t an excuse. The drug had a bright red seal on it right where she drew the syringe. No excuse.
Agreed
@@emilemcgee6031 ive been in and out of hospitals all my life ive had good nurses and bad ones but excusing this as a small oopsie scares me because complacency can cause people their lives doctors should also be held accountable !
As a nurse, you can't make mistakes like this
True ,this what you alweys told in school it's human life you need be so carful
Okay, well when you get burnt out after never being allowed to take a break after hours and hours on a shift and make a mistake, we won't give you any sympathy and will call for you to be locked in prison. Sound fair?
@@arthurias7693 Would the mistake have occurred if their loved one was a patient or would they be extra careful
@Arthurias this wasn't a case of her being burnt out, she simply didn't pay attention and she even admitted it, she was distracted while she was in the middle of administering the medicine. It's pure incompetence, the warnings were on the damn bottle. I know damn well that if you or your loved ones happened to suffer an "accident" like the one in the video due to the negligence of a nurse, you wouldn't be justifying it.
I feel those who aren’t in the medical field shouldn’t be speaking their opinions. This is why I won’t either.
Well I'm a nurse so I can tell you she's definitely guilty.
@@tiffanypemberton1647 guilty of losing her license but this is ridiculous
When I went to the ER I told the nurse at the front that I’m allergic to a certain medication when I was taken back another nurse took over and she didn’t tell me what medication she was administering when I asked her I realized she was about to inject me with a medication I’m allergic too I told her I told the nurse at the front who did the intake but she didn’t for whatever reason type it in the system
*Nurse makes a fatal mistake*
“She needs to pay!”
*police makes fatal mistake*
“Paid Vacation, you deserve it!”
Shut up. Maybe if criminals actually complied they wouldn’t be dead right now. Hope to god you don’t look to cops for help
@@alexandramoyer8785
Tell that to the teenage boy in Arkansas shot and killed for holding an antifreeze container.
Look it up.
We all make mistakes
But she killed someone
WHILE THE FAMILY WAS THERE
I did some digging and she Was found guilty, she could be sentenced to 3-6 years in prison, but the sentencing will happen on may 13th.
Nurses around the country need to support this young lady. All the story is not being told to the public about the hospital negligence of equipment
how exhausted must you be to make this mistake, the poor nurse. If the judicial system doesn't show understanding here, then there really is no justice. Rest in Peace to the person who passed.
She was distracted talking to her friends
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Wtf
By your theory all nurses would be making deadly mistakes at least once a week.
If she's that exhausted then she should take a break from her work. Not put everyone at risk because she doesn't want to take a break! SMH
To the pos lawyer : what does forgiveness have to do with recklessness. She was reckless and now should pay for it. To the pos nurses supporting her: to error is NOT human when the result is death of another human. You don't get a pass because "mistakes happen". Paying attention IS YOUR JOB. You don't get a pass to be careless when someone's life is on the line. And this particular case was 100% preventable🤨
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This is terrible. This nurse is not an offender of reckless homicide. It was a tragic mistake. My God. This is not a place for criminal charges.
Prayers for her!
"Every day nurses make errors." You can say that again . . . and again, and again.
As a registered nurse, this is not true .
@@monicalarkin4616 And I know it is true. Why do you think so many people have commented on this issue? Because so many people have experienced reckless, and yes, even wanton behavior from medical professionals.
She said that in a way that this nurse should be given a pass, which is not alright
She should have been paying attention. Her recklessness caused the death of a person and for that she does need to face consequences but 10 years for a mistake is a bit excessive. If we start punishing honest mistakes to this degree, I don’t know where we will end up as a society.
I guess you don't know how stressful this job is my sister is a nurse and she is in therapy right now because of this high stress level. I know its a horrible mistake but its not her fault its her bosses fault
First off we do not know if it was accident or malicious. 10 years is the price of taking a life. What if that lady she killed was your mom or grandma ud fee differwnr then
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@@Fillaaaaa exactly! I work in the medical field and I do feel bad mistakes happen but dealing with meds always pay attention.
@@Fillaaaaa Your sister chose that path to become a nurse, she should've known it was gonna be stressful. She should quit if it ain't for her.
Why do all of these articles keep saying she made A mistake? She made NUMEROUS negligent errors
This is why I won’t work in a hospital. The $ isn’t worth the liability
Accidents happen. That being said, she gave her the wrong drug. She's a nurse and her profession is holding lives in her hands. No nurse should EVER be that distracted. I don't know if I'd charge her but I'd definitely expect her to have insurance that will compensate the victim's family. If she doesn't then the hospital should pay. She should lose her license.
No nurse should ever be distracted??? I challenge you to go observe a nurse at Vanderbilt and see what they do during a 12 hour shift.
I would like to know if they make them work double and triple shifts. Kinna hard to pay attention at hour 27 for me personally.
Even nurses make mistakes, and yes, sometimes big ones. You say nurses shouldn't ever be distracted, but unfortunately the current state of things nurses often have way too much on their plate due to staffing shortages, and as such mistakes happen. I don't think she should lose her license if it was an honest mistake and has been otherwise the perfect nurse, if anything make her retake the nursing test.
You try doing a 12hrs or more shift then get back to me on that one. Easy to speak
@@snsn7251 damn right.
Overworked, underpaid and held fully liable for whatever happens.
It's very hard and sad for everyone, if it was a honest mistake have mercy on this nurse.
Those nurses defending the murderer should not be nurses. I would not want any of the nurses work on me. They admitted to doing mistakes themselves someone should investigate them as well. They admitted fault who did they hurt or kill?
"her arrest came as a shock"
If she was texting while driving, then hit and killed a pedestrian crossing the street, and got arrested and charged with vehicular manslaughter, would her arrest come as a "shock" then?
A lady killed 3 kids after running a bus stop sign, got three years and release so early… so why is she getting 10?
The hell you talking about?
She is trained against this sort of thing. This is NEGLIGENCE because she is held to a higher standard. Her sorrow is not going to bring back someone's mother, sister, wife grandmother etc... She must immediately lose her license before others die. Do NOT go into nursing if you cannot avoid NEGLIGENCE. A basic level of competency is needed to be a nurse.
Yes, and Vanderbilt hid the death
This ties back to the working environment and processes in place to ensure these errors do not occur. Why was a paralyzing agent available for her to pull in the same place as a mild sedative? That is used on the floor only in emergencies during intubation. What was her schedule that week? How much overtime? What was her patient load? Was there the appropriate support staff? An independent investigation into how this could happen needs to be conducted. But charged as a criminal and in jail for 10 years?
I was mistreated last week by a nurse. They can d we definitely go from nice and sweet to vile and cruel. I was left screaming for help for over 4 hours with a CSF leak post surgery. She refused to properly position me in bed. Unreal. I don't believe many either now.
This was a mistake that didn’t need to happen. The fact that a nurse admitted that nurses make mistakes everyday should cause concern for herself, and others who have people’s lives on their hands. That’s a horrible attitude to have when you have that kind of responsibility. This is not a mistake that can be corrected!
They shouldn’t blindly support her
@@juliecastagnaro2868 absolutely not and writing it off as just as “mistake”. Someone died.
Apparently the nurse is the "victim" in this and the patient is... well... not important, just a silly everyday "mistake."
@@secondchance6603 appalling.
Have you ever worked healthcare
This is somebody’s life. You’re a licensed professional. If you can’t be responsible and diligent, you don’t deserve your license. And if you hadn’t had the license to begin with, maybe Chaelene Murphy would still be alive today.
She was probably playing on the smart phone.
Doctors and nurses kill 250,000 people every year due to medical negligence and oftentimes it's never even reported. People make mistakes and it's very difficult to judge someone working 40+ hours a week in a field where one simple miscalculation can lead to someone's death. Yes she is partly responsible, but the fact that this can happen at all means there's clearly an issue with hospital procedure that must also be resolved.
That's bold talk for someone who's likely never seen a hospital setting before aside from likely being a patient... you'd be amazed at the errors that happen in this setting and not just by nurses, but doctors, pharmacists, well just about any provider tbh.
Additionally, many outlets failed to mention is that the FAMILY isn't suing Radonda, its the state. This is suspect.
This one is making the rounds cuz she already paid the price for her actions... and Vanderbilt is throwing about anything to the wall to not be held accountable on their end for not reporting it let alone doing shady things. this sadly is not new but it will play out to see the future of nursing and if your loved one or yourself will be given adequate care. Nurses should not have the loads they have (1:5-6 patients, 1:3 or 4 ICU is DANGEROUS) and in the case of RaDonda, she had a ORIENTEE with a load that she had.
Not. Safe. We need better but as long as corporations stiff nurses and hospital staff (doctors included) we r shot to hell.
If we took away every nurses license that had ever made a mistake, and yes life threatening mistakes, there would be no hospitals. We would be looking real stupid then.
3 times, 3 times you have to look to see if you took the right medication, the fact that this nurse thinks it as an accident is completely ridiculous.
I am praying for all involved, this is a tragedy for both parties.🙏🏻😢
You're joking. BOTH??? There is only one party truly suffering.
um nurses shouldn’t be distracted…
What if its another medical emergency happening right behind you, getting distracted over something like a fly for example is stupid, different if someone was having a seizure next to her.
They’re humans not robots
@@droneant7602 this is one time that she made a mistake but what about the hundreds of times she didn’t make a mistake. It was an honest mistake that had a major consequence
“Nurses make mistakes…”. That’s right, now she has to be held accountable. Same should happen if I ran a red light and killed someone.
Running a red light would be called 'reckless driving'. She's being charged for 'reckless homicide'. The key charge is Reckless: Not thinking or caring about the consequences of an action.
She already lost her license and paid the price for her negligence... but its suspect that the state is coming after her considering the family is not pressing charges and she was already stripped of her license.
And to top it off Vanderbilt hasn't been charged for its own coverups and falsifying documentation surrounding the med error.
@@nakedpnkmolerat purposely running a red light is reckless, running a red light by accident would be negligence
Mistake or not it was still due to her negligence that someone died so agreed.
I literally check my meds 4 times before giving it! I try not to let ppl distract me, also finish what you're doing then pay attention to someone else. I feel so bad for her. Dr's make mistakes all the time and get no jail time, they just pay out. This is sad on both sides
Yes your right i think she should have her licence suspended for 2 years and made to go through extra medication training as a patient in and out of hospitals my whole life ive had amazing nurses and ones that made me cry as a patient your extremely vulnerable the minute you put on a hospital gown your life is literally in their hands i have experienced mean nurses and ones that pray with me and comfort me when im down you have the ability to truly make someones life better this is a very sad situation!
If it's so dangerous as to have a warning label on it, why wasnt it kept in a more secure spot away from the other medications.
Yes we make mistakes but not like this smh, I stand with nurses but I’m sorry the nurse knows how important it is to pay attention when it comes to giving a patient medication no excuses here. Smh this story is heartbreaking.
I wholeheartedly agree with your comment but also bare in mind that we don't get to *"pick & choose"* our mistakes. I have empathy for both sides!
Well said
My son was very ill 4yrs ago and stayed in the hospital for 3 months so I got very comfortable with the nurses they made sure my baby was well taken care of and I loved them for that. One day when it was time for his medication because another nurse was talking to her while she in the process of giving him his meds I asked her if I could check. She almost gave my baby a medication that wasn’t meant for him and thank God I got up because it could have been my baby life. I can’t explain how I felt other than scared. She saw the pain in my eyes because he was already fighting for his life hugged me and apologized and I told her it was ok because he was ok. So I personally understand a nurse might not mean to make a mistake like this but it can happen and if the the outcome for my baby my son was different I would feel how the family in this situation does now.
@@1KingD I do as well but this could have been prevented. When I watched this my heart got really heavy.
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Wow! I truly enjoyed the good news that your son wasn't accidentally given the wrong meds...kudos to u for being on top of things 😉. Great mom!
I can now see it from your perspective and can better understand your take on the matter bcuz you experienced a similar scenario. But if we *"RESPECTFULLY"* remove the personals & look at this case from an objective standpoint, then a tad-bit more sympathy could be delegated to our caregivers. Most of them do it from the heart & for the love.
May the Lord diligently bless & keep you & your family safe!
Were those nurses fighting for complete immunity for all their colleagues - what was the motive? There is a reason the charge is not first degree murder. But asking to brush it off as an opsie is absolutely absurd and makes me untrusting of the medical field even more. No wonder there is a 250k hospital related deaths every year. Lord help us all.
Why don’t they charge cops the way that they prosecute healthcare workers?
As a victim of nurses' "mistakes", that she was found guilty is a relief to me. It's time everyone, especially those in the healthcare system, should be held accountable!! She caused a DEATH, not a "mistake"!
If we’re going to be held accountable for causing death, whose going to want to be a nurse anymore?! 😳She admitted her “mistake” - besides, nurses make mistakes every day??!!!😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 This is eye-opening & terrifying.
Yeah but you take a life cause they gave the wrong medication should be held responsible for taking a life
@@cynthg9547 Yes! I was quoting the nurse who said that. She said no one will want to be a nurse anymore if they’re held accountable for their “mistakes.”
While I was in college a instructor once told me that now is the time to make the mistakes and mess up and learn so that when you get out into the real world, you don't mess stuff up. I'm not saying this woman should go to prison for the rest of her life but a life was lost and these nurses take very good money. Just go through a drive-thru somewhere and see how fast they'll mess up your order. That's because they're lower wage workers who halfway care about their job because they're not being paid extremely well. But in my area nurses make good money and when you're making very good money you need to be on your A game 24/7. After all that's the allure of going to college and getting a degree and going into a high-paid field. But as I said I don't think she should spend the rest of her life in prison so obviously there should be some sort of punishment. If that was my family member and the nurse got off scotch-free I would be enraged. How would she expect to explain that to the family? "Oh hey I'm sorry I killed your grandma, I really am but it'll be okay".
Lmao nurses make good money 🤣. Good one. You're really funny
@@kmarshirley in many states they do
Good comment. I use to argue with my instructor, in college, about the grading system for exams.
My teacher asked me how much trust would i have in a medical professional who's treatment
was only 80% correct? I got the point. When my life is on the line, it would be good if the doctor was 95 to 100% correct with the diagnosis and treatment.
Well, even if she's convicted- which imo I think she will be- she's not going to be sentenced to life. The maximum penalty is UP to 12 yrs in prison. I think she'll get 1-2 yrs.
@@verbalkint4258
Not in Tennessee.
That's sad on both sides. 🕯️🙏 Prayers for the family
I understand that we’re all human and mistakes will happen. But I see this as extreme negligence that cost a patient their life… there shouldn’t have been room for error. Read the damn label before administering any medication.
She made a mistake because she didn't care. How many of these kinds of errors, fatal and non-fatal, that were not caught? The only way to keep them careful in what they do is to make them responsible for what they did.
They need to face much harsher punishments for medical mistakes.
As a healthcare provider Medication is the number 1 thing when it comes to patients! I am sorry this is a mistake you can not make you have to triple and quadruple check medication
This isn't a mistake...death isn't a mistake.
I pray leniency for this nurse, her instant acceptance of responsibility is evidence of her honest mistake. God bless her, and those who stand up for her, Amen 🙏
I hope this leads to a policy change in how medication is handled and distributed at hospitals.
The medical profession is such a needed yet risky profession. One mistake you kill a patient, go to prison, loose your license and your life is over all from a simple mistake
A "simple mistake" that cost someone their life!!! Negligence.
@@Glorydancer333 By that logic nobody that causes a (deadly) accident on the road should ever be allowed to drive again. You can't drive without a license for a reason after all, right?
Well, she needs to be held accountable. Accidents happen but she needs to be held accountable.
If I saw paralyzing agent on it.That would of been enough for me to stop!!.