@Samara V Hamilton Good for you, for managing to get out of scientology. How did you get into it in the first place, and what made you decide to leave? Some scientologists tried to recruit my boyfriend and me once. It obviously didn't work! They were offering free stress tests at the mall, and my boyfriend and I tried it, not knowing that they were anything to do with scientology. They sat us separately from each other, and made us hold onto those machines that they use. My machine wasn't moving at all. The woman kept thinking that it was broken, but it wasn't. She then told me to think of something really stressful. I did, but the machine still didn't move. She then started to get annoyed - their spiel was obviously to hook people up to these machines, show them that they were stressed, and then offer them scientology as a solution. Because my machine wasn't moving, and showing that I was stressed, she made some snarky comments about how it must be nice to not have anything stressful or negative going on in my life. At the time I was being stalked by a violent ex, and had my final exams and dissertation coming up, so I was pretty stressed. I told her I must just deal with stress well. She didn't like that. The funny thing is that my boyfriend's machine was apparently going haywire. LOL. Anyway, as soon as I realised they were scientologists I tried to leave (when she began offering me Dianetics), but she kept desperately trying to keep talking to me, and convince me that scientology was the solution. I think we were probably the only people who had sat down for their stress tests all morning. Eventually I asked about Xenu. She got annoyed. And we finally left.
Keith: I want you to be....authentic. Alison Mack: omg, that’s so deep. I’m so moved. Keith: hey that’s how I roll. Alison Mack: this is so worth spending 40 years in jail!
Yeah, he’s a pretentious douche who says nothing but you can see he wants people to worship him. She’s a good actress so it’s hard to tell if she buys into this. I think they were sleeping together too🤮. The whole thing is so creepy. I can’t believe people bought into this cult.
Perhaps as part of a work release program, or community service. They surely shouldn't be in any position to profit from their deviant and illegal behavior.
Mr Baker, it's certain that few if any will spend any time in prison. The rich can always "plea bargain" out of jail by "forfeiting" part of their huge fortune. Re: Clare Bronfman
So you let someone brand you with a symbol you didn’t know the meaning of? Is this a case of these people being insecure, low self esteem, and no self love?? How does this happen? I don’t understand any of this. This cult mentality is scary af.
It's about the craving to belong, to be included in some kind of group. Almost all humans are susceptible. Look at people around you and at yourself. Most humans are lucky that the people they worship don't have such bad intentions.
Philth Collinz this only goes for Christians? All other religions are exempt? Tell me more ✍🏾 If you’re a member of any political party surely you’re a member of a cult. Do you have a hobby? Meet once a week to play tennis, crochet, paint with wine? According to your logic all of these people are in cults.
John H Baumgaertner Yes we all want to be included in something, however, not on this level. I have to respectfully disagree with you that most people are susceptible. I don’t worship any people, so I can’t relate to that statement at all. I have a religion, however, the humans that are the “keepers” of my religion on earth are no people I worship. If they start saying some things that have nothing to do with my religion and may cause myself, my family or others harm, I will NOT do it. That goes for anyone. If my mother says you know we’ll reach God sooner by jumping off this cliff, she will jump alone. There’s something intrinsically different about people who join cults (in which things go from being sunshine and rainbows, to branding, child sexual abuse and drinking koolaid) than the average person.
Yet still nothing is done about the children of scientology the physical, mental and sexual abuse that has been xo.firmed by alot of people I dont getagaon why is David Micscumbag untouchable someone please explain????
Harlem New York your a racist piece of shit..I could go on and on about what blacks “fall for”..including the crack epidemic...stay in your lane cuz your mad fucking rude
Entertainment is just that, entertainment. Not one of those people you see on tv are remotely alike to what they actually portray. Sometimes they are much better, most of the times much much worse. There is a great old saying in my country that goes like this "Do not believe anything you hear and only half of what you see".
@@smartsoul4683 Well duh, of course they aren't what they are on screen. We're talking about Smallville here after all, haha. I think we should be able to at least believe they are good people in real life though. The Superman fandom hasn't had an easy go of it the last couple decades so any hit like this doesn't help anything. I think this is why I am so disappointed.
@@sweed6054 Do you believe in false confessions? Are you saying you are of such high intelligence, you’re one of the only people in the world above being brainwashed? If so, congrats!!!
@@kristenvilla1011 nope never said that, I believe I'm of higher intelligence than her. Some people are more susceptible to mental manipulation, the same type of people who believe the media when they said Trump had is 0% chance of winning the election
Weak vulnerable people who are naive and trusting and lacking in confidence and self esteem. And it was Allison Mack's job to look for women who fit this type of profile. She;s a monster as are the other people in this group who are at the top. Instead of just going after Raniere, they should throw Mack and the others behind bars for many years also
Women, please, you are in charge of your bodies, your lives, your hearts minds and souls. No matter how vulnerable you feel. Assert your sovereignty over your own life. Feeling vulnerable is part of being a woman. Evolution demands that we need to be sensitive, open and vulnerable in order to raise and safeguard children. DAMMIT YOU ARE SO PERFECT THE WAY YOU ARE!!!! Don't listen to any other message.
Such BS, so the women recruiting the other women and having slaves of their own are perfect the way they are? I think any man that has been in war, stuck in a trench, was feeling pretty vulnerable, you and other women need to get over yourselves. No one is perfect the way they are, you may be well meaning and/or delusional, but this type of feminist bs is exactly what made these women vulnerable because women are just so perfect they would never have any bad motives. Like have their own slaves. And I'm all for equality, time for you ladies to sign up for the draft at 18 like men and be right there in the frontlines taking all the risks men still take while you are predominantly non-combat support roles whining about how equal you are.
At which point do you not go "nah thanks, I'm out." It would have been way before getting branded for me! But even at that late stage how do you not go "Branding? No thanks.". And now we see how generations of Americans keep voting for people who won't give them health care!? Brain washed.
Bailey sex trafficking, child trafficking, sex slavery. This barely scratches the surface of the story and all the connections. Women went to the NY attorney general’s office- he did nothing.
Dang, it! I had one of the BIGGEST crushes on Allison Mack as Chloe Sullivan on Smallville! I'll never quite see her the same again. Damn! She's such a cutie pie. And that Keith Raniere fella reminds me of David Koresh from the Branch Davidian Cult in Waco, TX.
Although people say Keith Raniere has charisma (and to a certain extent he must have to be able to form a cult) to me he has no charisma at all. David Koresh however had it in abundance. M Kennedy.
Imagine my shock when I heard that Chloe from Smallville, beautiful Chloe with such a beautiful welcoming smile was in on this, smallville beautiful childhood memory of mine, oh my god wow this is crazy.
There's a whole nother world we don't even know exists y'all! From Hollywood to the music industry, some henious things are happening which is WHY some of the "stars" we love and admire for whatever reason, are where they are. A lot of times we hear and say, this person or that person is underrated and i truly truly believe some artists get more attention and have more of a marquee BECAUSE of the stuff their involved in that other artists won't compromise to do, for fame! There's SOMETHING going on y'all! TRUST!
@@kissanangellottalove6945 Hollywood's biggest problem is and forever will be Pedophilia... Thats why you dont hear about it in the media.. the x men director Bryan Singer was accused for organizing teens orgies.. and no one is talking about it anymore
Foh. None of them were forced to do shit. They were adults that did it willingly and knowingly. Now that jail is a possibility, all these bitches want to be victims now, how convenient. So sick of this fake environment. Manson was a pussy that molested little girls and had them kill and do what he was too bitch to do himself. Manson was just a coward
The initials visible on that brand, for those who don't know, are not just KR for Keith Rienere but when viewed sideways read AM for Alison Mack. You can see it for yourself as part of the HBO Doc "The Vow". The FBI also used that fact as part of the probable cause used to secure an arrest warrant for Alison Mack. Now that she has coped a plea and is giving all the signs of being a Government witness, facts like tend to vanish. We have seen it before, when John Gotti was arrested the FBI painted a picture of co-defendant Salvatore Gravano as being a monster. Once he cooperated, the FBI applied more humane brush strokes to the painting. In the end Alison Mack put Rienere away, came away having given her finest acting performance with the tears the "error of my ways" drama. In the end she was a co conspirator who not only heard all the media reports from former members but even fled to Mexico with him when the words "Federal Authorities" are investigating. Alison Mack was the perfect Narcessistic soul mate for Rienere, her only motivation for tears was getting caught. She of course has no worries, the "Don't blame the victim" mob will do her talking for her. That's how it works today in the minds of easily influenced consumers of the media.....first one to successfully cop a plea in a big case is deemed the victim.
This is hard to believe. Allison Mack was one of my first celebrity crushes when I was barely a teenager. I loved the sweet and innocent Chloe on Smallville.
I can’t feel fully sorry for these women, they wanted power. No sane person would go through with this. Also, if you’re going after this cult then why not go after Scientology?
How come only Reniere is in cuffs - why not the girls who did crimes too.Mack was never put in cuffs, but should have been. IN some ways what she did was worse the his crimes !
Yes! She was as guilty as he was but the narrative is blame the man, like she wasn't a fully culpable agent in this as well. She will get a slap on the wrist in comparison to what his punishment will be just like every other time when the narrative is "man bad, woman victim"
Fun fact: these people have mutual friends with very powerful financiers. These people also run a kids version of the group called the Rainbow CULTural garden.
Besides the brilliant CBC podcast titled "Uncover" Season 1 titled, "Escaping NXIVM" which has 9 episodes and is from 2018, there's two documentaries both from 2020. One is titled "The Vow" by HBO and it has 9 episodes, and the other is a 4 episode documentary series titled "Seduced - Inside the NXIVM Cult". Those interested in ebooks & audiobooks might want to read access Sarah Edmonson's "Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life" released in 2019.
why didn't ABC news bring up the Bronfman / avenatti connections? There are also some very interesting videos out there in re: stormy/avenatti/weiner attending nxivm recruiting parties. Guess we will have to wait a few years to find out.
Creepy cults. Thought for a moment an ex ran off and joined a cult. She looks exactly like my ex, that turned out to be liar type like allison. It's a bit uncanny that twin effect.
It’s so heartbreaking. I wish people would rake Kristen Kreuk over the coals for recruiting Allison into nxivm, watching her get in so deep, and then, simply washing her hands of her part in this mess; sitting idle as Allison is judged, humiliated, chastised, demonized as she waits to be sentenced. We know what Allison did wrong, but why don’t we hear a bit more about her circumstances? Classy, Kristen.
A lot of similarities with growing up as a Jehovahs Witness. Not the branding. But the scolding of you questioned ANYTHING. I’m still dealing with that to this day. Even though I’m not one anymore.
I hate this. I'm self employed and work out of a lot of coffee shops and bookstores and occasionally I'll get some stranger strike up a conversation and either pretend to remember me or just take an unusual interest in my work and then tell me that they have a mentor they want me to meet. I know its a set up for a multi-level marketing scam because when I was in college I told one of these guys that I was looking for work and they framed it as a job interview, which I cautiously agreed to and then was treated to a room full of brainwashed losers trying to con me into taking out a loan so I could buy into the ponzi scheme.... anyway, moral of the story if someone tells you they have a guru they want you to meet and talks profusely about how smart or rich or influential they are before you've ever met them, they are buttering you up. Politely end the conversation and walk away.
The truth is, the role of Chloe probably made Allison Mack feel very insecure about herself. Chloe was never good enough for Clark and I bet that fake guru played on this insecurity.
The beautiful Allison mack always made my heart melt. her smile is irresistible. She's bubbly and adorable. When i heard about that mess i was in shock. I am very sad for what's going on now with her. I cannot imagine her in prison for years. :(
I cannot feel sorry for these women. They were on a path that they chose. They thought it would bring them power and fulfilment. The dude was a player this is true he fooled these dumb girls and had some fun with them. And they let him get away with it.
Couldn't agree more. No one was forced, and what is being brushed under the rug is that at each step it was another woman, not a man, that brought them deeper into the system. This is how older aging women keep their position, providing fresh meat to the system. Wouldn't work without women being deeply involved in the program as active participants, not unwilling victims.
These are people who have more ambition than intelligence.
Sounds a lot like Scientology practices, minus the branding.
I was thinking the same thing. They should go after scientology like they have NXIVM.
@Samara V Hamilton Good for you, for managing to get out of scientology. How did you get into it in the first place, and what made you decide to leave?
Some scientologists tried to recruit my boyfriend and me once. It obviously didn't work! They were offering free stress tests at the mall, and my boyfriend and I tried it, not knowing that they were anything to do with scientology. They sat us separately from each other, and made us hold onto those machines that they use. My machine wasn't moving at all. The woman kept thinking that it was broken, but it wasn't. She then told me to think of something really stressful. I did, but the machine still didn't move. She then started to get annoyed - their spiel was obviously to hook people up to these machines, show them that they were stressed, and then offer them scientology as a solution. Because my machine wasn't moving, and showing that I was stressed, she made some snarky comments about how it must be nice to not have anything stressful or negative going on in my life. At the time I was being stalked by a violent ex, and had my final exams and dissertation coming up, so I was pretty stressed. I told her I must just deal with stress well. She didn't like that. The funny thing is that my boyfriend's machine was apparently going haywire. LOL.
Anyway, as soon as I realised they were scientologists I tried to leave (when she began offering me Dianetics), but she kept desperately trying to keep talking to me, and convince me that scientology was the solution. I think we were probably the only people who had sat down for their stress tests all morning. Eventually I asked about Xenu. She got annoyed. And we finally left.
Somebody saaaaaaaave meeeeeee
@@Majorbrownfinger You are being funny I assume....
BuddhaLove77 #NewCultureofPeace the theme song
The propensity of people to be bamboozled with outrageous schemes never ceases to amaze me.
They're still selling non-existent oil wells in Texas.
Shocker he got his start in Multi-level marketing.
Predators prey on weakness. 😣
cult is the word..SMH
Are people seriously THIS lost, in the 21st century?
Their delusions will only get stronger unless good people don't take them down.
The Amazing Guyulnevrb what does the time period have to do with anything
Unfortunately this sort of delusion goes on all the time, not just over this century.
Yes humans are still vulnerable to manipulation in the current year.
That's power of the human mind, we want to be lead in a group, rather than free and alone.
Keith: I want you to be....authentic.
Alison Mack: omg, that’s so deep. I’m so moved.
Keith: hey that’s how I roll.
Alison Mack: this is so worth spending 40 years in jail!
Yeah, he’s a pretentious douche who says nothing but you can see he wants people to worship him. She’s a good actress so it’s hard to tell if she buys into this. I think they were sleeping together too🤮. The whole thing is so creepy. I can’t believe people bought into this cult.
@@JamminOnThe1 clearly she bought into it since she stayed in it for years
Can't wait for the Lifetime Movie, wonder if they'll let the actors play themselves?
Perhaps as part of a work release program, or community service. They surely shouldn't be in any position to profit from their deviant and illegal behavior.
lmfao
@Tanya Lynne ha🤣
Mr Baker, it's certain that few if any will spend any time in prison. The rich can always "plea bargain" out of jail by "forfeiting" part of their huge fortune. Re: Clare Bronfman
😂😂 you may be right because the odds of any these nasty people, doing any serious time is wishful thinking.
Scientology's cousin 😨😨😨😨😨
This is what happens when Clark Kent rejects someone...
burn
The Wolverine 😄😂😆
😂🤣😂
Well, Luther should have courted her instead.
Nick Aduana II Keith makes Lex look like an angel...
Dump her in jail and throw away the dam key! Sick women
child trafficking witch
Jails don't use keys anymore.
The founder should be given a tougher sentence than Mack.
chriss4365 Especially given the LARGE age gap. Keith KNOWS he used young, still impressionable women.
Soo many people are ready to follow cult LEADERS and cult groups.
Never heard of jim Jones
Google Jim Jones and you'll be amazed at how far people can be indoctrinated.
So you let someone brand you with a symbol you didn’t know the meaning of?
Is this a case of these people being insecure, low self esteem, and no self love??
How does this happen?
I don’t understand any of this.
This cult mentality is scary af.
Yeah I hear u but if ur Christian your ALSO in a cult.
It's about the craving to belong, to be included in some kind of group. Almost all humans are susceptible. Look at people around you and at yourself. Most humans are lucky that the people they worship don't have such bad intentions.
Philth Collinz this only goes for Christians? All other religions are exempt? Tell me more ✍🏾
If you’re a member of any political party surely you’re a member of a cult. Do you have a hobby? Meet once a week to play tennis, crochet, paint with wine? According to your logic all of these people are in cults.
John H Baumgaertner Yes we all want to be included in something, however, not on this level. I have to respectfully disagree with you that most people are susceptible. I don’t worship any people, so I can’t relate to that statement at all. I have a religion, however, the humans that are the “keepers” of my religion on earth are no people I worship. If they start saying some things that have nothing to do with my religion and may cause myself, my family or others harm, I will NOT do it. That goes for anyone. If my mother says you know we’ll reach God sooner by jumping off this cliff, she will jump alone.
There’s something intrinsically different about people who join cults (in which things go from being sunshine and rainbows, to branding, child sexual abuse and drinking koolaid) than the average person.
@@latoyacyann3269 My point EXACTLY
Rich people sure get themselves into weird situations.
The pimping is strong.
FACTS lol only white people fall for dumb shit like that LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO
@@harlemnewyork8922 really.... what are gangs... or Jonestown,,, or too many to list..
@@harlemnewyork8922 Sounds like your hateful ass been deceived by the biggest liar of all..please seek Jesus!
@@harlemnewyork8922 is an old fat white guy. Bet.
I would almost be shocked if Allison Mack spends even one day in prison. How many children do you think these people kidnapped and tortured?
Yet still nothing is done about the children of scientology the physical, mental and sexual abuse that has been xo.firmed by alot of people I dont getagaon why is David Micscumbag untouchable someone please explain????
Only white people fall for DUMB shit like that LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO
Gail Mazzola one word: money
Harlem New York your a racist piece of shit..I could go on and on about what blacks “fall for”..including the crack epidemic...stay in your lane cuz your mad fucking rude
Influence, money, fear, abuse
And BRAINWASHING
As a die hard smallville/superman fan this breaks my heart. This is so messed up!
Me too. At least the other one that got Mack started left when she realized what was going on
Entertainment is just that, entertainment. Not one of those people you see on tv are remotely alike to what they actually portray. Sometimes they are much better, most of the times much much worse. There is a great old saying in my country that goes like this "Do not believe anything you hear and only half of what you see".
@@smartsoul4683 Well duh, of course they aren't what they are on screen. We're talking about Smallville here after all, haha.
I think we should be able to at least believe they are good people in real life though.
The Superman fandom hasn't had an easy go of it the last couple decades so any hit like this doesn't help anything. I think this is why I am so disappointed.
Unfortunately this happened, at least she will pay for her actions.
Day by day UA-cam is becoming a more safer version of Hollywood.
i would like to see a list of all of the charges against all of the members of NXIVM thus far.
Here you go drive.google.com/file/d/12cTHXzzKo6LN0HvBmAq1JF_9mJzP9cD0/view
@@Noilamall thank you. i greatly appreciate it.
Moved to tears 🙄. SHES AN ACTRESS!!!!!!
Uhhh... Y'all should do a little more research of NXIVM!!! It's a whole lot more than this story they are telling!!!
What is it about??
Allison Mack is a whistleblower - many, Many Big Names involved. She's even listed in 'Players' on Qmap.pub
She may look innocent and sweet but she's FAR from it! Sick!
"why didn't you let go and run out naked right then?" because I'm an idiot incapable of making logical decisions for myself.
That's what I thought, exactly.
We all think we’d get up and run, but after 13 years of brainwashing, sometimes 14 hours/day sessions, you never know what you’d do.
@@kristenvilla1011 lived under 32 years of liberal brainwashing and still don't vote Democrat
@@sweed6054 Do you believe in false confessions? Are you saying you are of such high intelligence, you’re one of the only people in the world above being brainwashed? If so, congrats!!!
@@kristenvilla1011 nope never said that, I believe I'm of higher intelligence than her. Some people are more susceptible to mental manipulation, the same type of people who believe the media when they said Trump had is 0% chance of winning the election
I think these ppl willingly did this thinking it would lead to power and influence! I don't think they are victims at all
That's right. They wanted fame, riches, and glory. How many of them recruited others?
They are great actors 😬
Sounds like he got his ideas from Scientology!
She must be thinking "SOMEBODY SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Xander Lee So stupid. Looooool. But you are so right
The fear is her eyes pleases me! Evil scumbag!
What sort of people go along with this?
Weak vulnerable people who are naive and trusting and lacking in confidence and self esteem. And it was Allison Mack's job to look for women who fit this type of profile. She;s a monster as are the other people in this group who are at the top. Instead of just going after Raniere, they should throw Mack and the others behind bars for many years also
@Other i thought the bitch that wrote the comment above you was dumb 😂😂😂 . Youre both stupid.
Bronfman>mack>abramovic>podesta>Clintons>obama>epstein
@@colleenharrison1638 says the village idiot.
@@jjkhawaiian😂😂😂 what great input for a dude whose face looks like it got repeatedly smashed in a door.
They forgot to say..... CHILD TRAFFICKING!!!
These people are not right in the head
Women, please, you are in charge of your bodies, your lives, your hearts minds and souls. No matter how vulnerable you feel. Assert your sovereignty over your own life. Feeling vulnerable is part of being a woman. Evolution demands that we need to be sensitive, open and vulnerable in order to raise and safeguard children. DAMMIT YOU ARE SO PERFECT THE WAY YOU ARE!!!! Don't listen to any other message.
Such BS, so the women recruiting the other women and having slaves of their own are perfect the way they are? I think any man that has been in war, stuck in a trench, was feeling pretty vulnerable, you and other women need to get over yourselves. No one is perfect the way they are, you may be well meaning and/or delusional, but this type of feminist bs is exactly what made these women vulnerable because women are just so perfect they would never have any bad motives. Like have their own slaves. And I'm all for equality, time for you ladies to sign up for the draft at 18 like men and be right there in the frontlines taking all the risks men still take while you are predominantly non-combat support roles whining about how equal you are.
At which point do you not go "nah thanks, I'm out." It would have been way before getting branded for me! But even at that late stage how do you not go "Branding? No thanks.".
And now we see how generations of Americans keep voting for people who won't give them health care!? Brain washed.
Josie Fox the Illuminati cult has everyone in fear but they are all going to jail
You don't have health care?
It doesn't sound like those women were forced to do anything against their will, so where's the crime?
Bailey sex trafficking, child trafficking, sex slavery. This barely scratches the surface of the story and all the connections. Women went to the NY attorney general’s office- he did nothing.
WOW
What a joke to fall for
sounds like a cult 🧙♂️
JogBird ya think?
That's because it was.
Dang, it! I had one of the BIGGEST crushes on Allison Mack as Chloe Sullivan on Smallville! I'll never quite see her the same again. Damn! She's such a cutie pie. And that Keith Raniere fella reminds me of David Koresh from the Branch Davidian Cult in Waco, TX.
Although people say Keith Raniere has charisma (and to a certain extent he must have to be able to form a cult) to me he has no charisma at all. David Koresh however had it in abundance. M Kennedy.
Lol I would never do anything for a guy who seriously calls himself "The Vanguard"
Imagine my shock when I heard that Chloe from Smallville, beautiful Chloe with such a beautiful welcoming smile was in on this, smallville beautiful childhood memory of mine, oh my god wow this is crazy.
Cults always have the Jesus figure, long work days to confuse you, secrecy, and the idea that even though you are a chump you are special.
You nailed it!!
There's a whole nother world we don't even know exists y'all! From Hollywood to the music industry, some henious things are happening which is WHY some of the "stars" we love and admire for whatever reason, are where they are. A lot of times we hear and say, this person or that person is underrated and i truly truly believe some artists get more attention and have more of a marquee BECAUSE of the stuff their involved in that other artists won't compromise to do, for fame! There's SOMETHING going on y'all! TRUST!
It's all hidden in plain sight. Sometimes the greatest veil is the one we put over our own eyes.
@@jjkhawaiian you betta talk the truth!
Wow.. This is.. Too much. 😕
I work across the street from the court it’s so hard to catch her leaving .. one day I’ll see it
What about the hundreds of kids missing in California???
once they remembered that they can just make more , they forgot about them.....thats california for you...shit hole , i hate living here
Really? And no one is talking about it???
@@kissanangellottalove6945 Hollywood's biggest problem is and forever will be Pedophilia... Thats why you dont hear about it in the media.. the x men director Bryan Singer was accused for organizing teens orgies.. and no one is talking about it anymore
This guy is worst than Charles Manson. Where is the me too movement?
Henry Dawkins
Worse then Manson? Wow calm down there buddy
Foh. None of them were forced to do shit. They were adults that did it willingly and knowingly. Now that jail is a possibility, all these bitches want to be victims now, how convenient. So sick of this fake environment. Manson was a pussy that molested little girls and had them kill and do what he was too bitch to do himself. Manson was just a coward
@
You're a fucking idiot than
@ Manson only one incident? Please, grab a Book and learn something.
@ grab a book, a dictionary and also learn some manners.
The initials visible on that brand, for those who don't know, are not just KR for Keith Rienere but when viewed sideways read AM for Alison Mack. You can see it for yourself as part of the HBO Doc "The Vow". The FBI also used that fact as part of the probable cause used to secure an arrest warrant for Alison Mack. Now that she has coped a plea and is giving all the signs of being a Government witness, facts like tend to vanish. We have seen it before, when John Gotti was arrested the FBI painted a picture of co-defendant Salvatore Gravano as being a monster. Once he cooperated, the FBI applied more humane brush strokes to the painting.
In the end Alison Mack put Rienere away, came away having given her finest acting performance with the tears the "error of my ways" drama. In the end she was a co conspirator who not only heard all the media reports from former members but even fled to Mexico with him when the words "Federal Authorities" are investigating. Alison Mack was the perfect Narcessistic soul mate for Rienere, her only motivation for tears was getting caught. She of course has no worries, the "Don't blame the victim" mob will do her talking for her. That's how it works today in the minds of easily influenced consumers of the media.....first one to successfully cop a plea in a big case is deemed the victim.
many parallels to Scientology.
And they call Jehovah's Witness a cult...SMH
No this is an example of a cult!
Amen
MP D - how about: they both are!
@@Seeker0fTruth how???
MP D - ua-cam.com/video/yzdeGe5Im90/v-deo.html
@Tanya Lynne how?
Listening to him for two minutes and I would have run ....fast .
Any time your asked to take your clothes off other then a professional massage it's a cult🤨
lol.....but what about........
Nope your right!
She deserves every year of that sentence
I am still confused how there are "self" help "groups". That alone raises a huge red flag.
This is hard to believe. Allison Mack was one of my first celebrity crushes when I was barely a teenager. I loved the sweet and innocent Chloe on Smallville.
I can’t feel fully sorry for these women, they wanted power. No sane person would go through with this. Also, if you’re going after this cult then why not go after Scientology?
Where do I sign up
😂😂
That's not judgment day, Jesus is bringing JUDGMENT DAY!
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this is what psychos can do . Manipulation on epic scales
Cult at it’s most evident...if involved in anything like this ...call authorities... now
Never just believe everything your told...do some homework and don’t worship false prophets
I'm not surprised this happened, I'm more shocked this was done by her. I'm shooketh!!
How come only Reniere is in cuffs - why not the girls who did crimes too.Mack was never put in cuffs, but should have been. IN some ways what she did was worse the his crimes !
Yes! She was as guilty as he was but the narrative is blame the man, like she wasn't a fully culpable agent in this as well. She will get a slap on the wrist in comparison to what his punishment will be just like every other time when the narrative is "man bad, woman victim"
Kinda skipped over the Bronfman stuff huh?
LeroyHeeneyWine her time is coming
Fun fact: these people have mutual friends with very powerful financiers. These people also run a kids version of the group called the Rainbow CULTural garden.
ABC News won't touch that with a 12" winky.
@@jjkhawaiian at least they make it obvious that we can't trust them to do their job
Can't wait for her Lifetime/Netflix/Hulu $movie deal
What about Kristen kreuk she was part of this to, she's the one who introduced her.
Hali D only took the courses it was known as but left way before the cult stuff and the victims even vouched for her
They never bring up the child trafficking charges for children 14 and under. The statute was listed in her indictment
Besides the brilliant CBC podcast titled "Uncover" Season 1 titled, "Escaping NXIVM" which has 9 episodes and is from 2018, there's two documentaries both from 2020. One is titled "The Vow" by HBO and it has 9 episodes, and the other is a 4 episode documentary series titled "Seduced - Inside the NXIVM Cult". Those interested in ebooks & audiobooks might want to read access Sarah Edmonson's "Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life" released in 2019.
Why didnt anyone object to this?
Yes. Please brand me. I need more parts in TV and film.
White people LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO only white people fall for dumb shit like that smfh
Tony Lawless lol right
Harlem New York you again..go stand on a street corner
@@harlemnewyork8922 we get it, you hate white people.
Harlem New York. You live in New York? Amazing! Yes, this is a "white" people thing.
What point did these women realize they were in danger? I would hope I would have more judgement to not go that far before getting branded.
Keith Rainiere: Does he look reminiscent of Charles Manson to anyone else?
no....he looks like a sex addict
why didn't ABC news bring up the Bronfman / avenatti connections?
There are also some very interesting videos out there in re: stormy/avenatti/weiner attending nxivm recruiting parties. Guess we will have to wait a few years to find out.
Bronfman>mack>abramovic>podesta>Clintons>obama>epstein
Creepy cults.
Thought for a moment an ex ran off and joined a cult. She looks exactly like my ex, that turned out to be liar type like allison. It's a bit uncanny that twin effect.
Nothing knew, people in positions of power have been doing similar stuff for ages. Many of our world leaders do some sick stuff behind closed doors.
Individualism by robbing yours. Cults are for the weak.
What some people do for power, sex and money is mind blowing and disgusting.
All Allison wanted was some relief from heart burn and now this !
The branding of many victims cannot be undone. They should sue her and Raniere for the branding.
No even a whisper of the really bad stuff associated with this cult!
That's the MSM for ya'. ABC is in the think of it.
Wild wild Country
Holy Hell
And now this..... Can't wait for the doco.
The power of suggestion...crazy stuff
Frazzledrip: Once again I am amazed at how elitist specialize at convincing victims they are fortunate.
It’s so heartbreaking. I wish people would rake Kristen Kreuk over the coals for recruiting Allison into nxivm, watching her get in so deep, and then, simply washing her hands of her part in this mess; sitting idle as Allison is judged, humiliated, chastised, demonized as she waits to be sentenced. We know what Allison did wrong, but why don’t we hear a bit more about her circumstances? Classy, Kristen.
A lot of similarities with growing up as a Jehovahs Witness. Not the branding. But the scolding of you questioned ANYTHING. I’m still dealing with that to this day. Even though I’m not one anymore.
Jonathan Roe stay strong👍🏼
Lily Gazou ty 😁. I have a wonderful wife that supports me now so it’s much easier.
Sounds a lot like Scientology. How do so many people fall for these things? Cults prey on weak minds and spirits.
I hate this. I'm self employed and work out of a lot of coffee shops and bookstores and occasionally I'll get some stranger strike up a conversation and either pretend to remember me or just take an unusual interest in my work and then tell me that they have a mentor they want me to meet. I know its a set up for a multi-level marketing scam because when I was in college I told one of these guys that I was looking for work and they framed it as a job interview, which I cautiously agreed to and then was treated to a room full of brainwashed losers trying to con me into taking out a loan so I could buy into the ponzi scheme.... anyway, moral of the story if someone tells you they have a guru they want you to meet and talks profusely about how smart or rich or influential they are before you've ever met them, they are buttering you up. Politely end the conversation and walk away.
I hope they jail her for a long time!!
Some people seem to have a vastly different definition of "charismatic" than I have.
Wish we can time travel and prevent Alison from joining that cult
Oops, too late.
Leave her alone.
Why? 🤔
The truth is, the role of Chloe probably made Allison Mack feel very insecure about herself. Chloe was never good enough for Clark and I bet that fake guru played on this insecurity.
The beautiful Allison mack always made my heart melt. her smile is
irresistible. She's bubbly and adorable. When i heard about that mess i
was in shock. I am very sad for what's going on now with her. I cannot imagine her in prison for years. :(
these are the celebs that tell you what to think and who to vote for. Congrats!
These people are EVIL
Why don't they ever mention the child sex trafficking that happened as well
1:55 deep words ...
Why is she going to court with a backpack on her back like a highschooler? She's not fooling anybody by playing like she's a child. So sickening.
When are the othets, the internatinal ones such as salinas are going to be jailed?
I cannot feel sorry for these women. They were on a path that they chose. They thought it would bring them power and fulfilment. The dude was a player this is true he fooled these dumb girls and had some fun with them. And they let him get away with it.
"Ambition is the last refuge of the failure".
White people LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO
These were not girls.
They were full grown women.
Couldn't agree more. No one was forced, and what is being brushed under the rug is that at each step it was another woman, not a man, that brought them deeper into the system. This is how older aging women keep their position, providing fresh meat to the system. Wouldn't work without women being deeply involved in the program as active participants, not unwilling victims.
Exactly!
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