Thanks for watching! I hope it helps (obviously lots of decisions you can make in every game, just focused on this one) Join us on Discord www.discord.gg/JRCKtQx and Proguides www.proguides.com/virkayu BUT ALSO STREAM TOMORROW FIRST ONE IN 20 MONTHS: www.twitch.tv/virkayu
Thank you so much, yesterday we were winning the entire early stage of the game, but couldn't convert anything so we crossed the 40min and lose to a late game Caitlyn. This was soooo painful XD
Well reksai falls off the meta for sure at least. Outpathing is almost nonexistent now. Its either vertical jungle if the stronger jungler decides so, or just normal camp cycling. Strong lv 6 champs shine here while strong lv 3 champs like reksai and xin zhao fall off. Ive been spamming evelynn now mostly since shes excellent with the meta shift, D1+.
Kayn is a great pick again. You can clear 5 camps before scuttle spawns now. Scuttle changes mostly affect pathing and Tarzaned has a guide on it already.
I need this video thank you time after time as J4 I put all lanes ahead just for them to chase kills and never take any objectives and slowly we lose the entire game.
Hi Virkayu, I am a support main who was gold last season and spent most of my time this season helping my friend improved on league and didnt spend much time climbing.when i decided to start climbing on my new account "Lewd Pug" i began to realize i wasnt as good as i was during season 8/7 or i wasnt keeping up the same habbits. Recently i started to realize when i was off of support i was able to turn and carry games and when i was on support my teamates didnt want to listen to my shot calls and my pings and my wr (which was 62% at one point) declined slightly. After watching just 2 hours of your videos i have managed to learn so much then i ever did in the first 2 years i spent when i discovered league. (i joined in season 5)
dude wtf how do you not have more views this is some awesome analytical content that I see myself in the future digest a lot of, its also simple and easy to understand.
First off, great video, really something that I've been trying to work on as a player recently, I have a follow-up question for you, in a game where there are no t2 towers up, and no neutrals to take what should be the macro call? just farm and wait for the barons and dragons to come up? or try to siege an inhib? Maybe just set up vision and take as much farm as possible? I find myself in some games where im ahead and have no clear objective to take, and I feel like I end up throwing away leads in games like this because I dont want to give the enemy time to farm back into the game.
this depends heavily on comp. If your team is mostly melee like a yasuo mid, irelia top, melee support, melee jungler, sieging is not an option. The 2 options then become to either 1-3-1, which is not always the easiest to setup in solo q, or to simply choke out enemy vision, farm enemy jungle camps on respawn and build ur lead as u wait for the baron. If u do have a good siege comp, like caitlyn xerath both, lux mid, etc, then u can try to siege, thou you do need to consider how much wave clear the enemy team has (you cant siege vs anivia even if u have a siege comp) or how much hard engage they have (if ur comp has no clear disengage/counter engage tool, then getting hard engaged on by the likes of j4 means u might throw the game so yes, there isnt a clear answer to this, it's HEAVILY reliant on your comp and the enemy comp and also the state of the game (if you're really ahead, diving becomes an option, etc)
Yo Virkayu!! i dont know if you remember me, i was the guy who achieved diamond last season as jungler, and your guides were really useful, this season while i was climbing in my second account I noticed that low elo players don't know how and why to force a neutral objective and there is no guide in any site about it, which usually results in everyone dying in barons fose or not doing the objective at all because they are scared of initiate it because one or two members of the enemy team still alive. by the way keep the good work man
As a fellow Warwick main. You've taught me so much with your videos and crucial macros on warwick that I wouldn't of thought possible. Thank you. One question, what would you say is the most efficient path for WW right now after jungle changes this patch?
everything was good and i was following until trist took blue buff and kayn very, very obviously went and fed into mid to retaliate. he was a smart player and that was completely on purpose
How many people can relate ? I apply most of the tips in all of Virkayu's videos combined and am still stuck (in plat 4) because the team doesn't follow/retreat when they should. I play Xerath mid and have a 60% winrate on over 250 games. I win 15 and lose 20 LP, which explains why I'm stuck. I win most of my laning phases even against counter matchups (except a few of them like Kassadin and Katarina because they have the potential to one shot me and leave before I even realize they've jumped on me, since both have a blink), but I can't get a single team (mostly botlanes) that either uses vision or knows their champion to a point where they know whether they will win or lose a fight. I also usually get fed a little late (based on Zwag's videos) and thus I can't carry because I'm not strong enough to poke doen the fed tanks and adc on the other side. P.S.: Consider it venting/crying if you want, i don't care, the question is: do you relate to this?
Whether to go for Baron or an inhib is something I'm never sure on, I tend to swing toward do inhib as you can then do baron more easily, however I've also seen people in the mind-set of if you take baron off the board nobody else can take it at least even if you end up not using it to it fullest. Are you planning on a new early clear video now our friend the scuttle is napping a bit longer? theres some champions I don't feel it'll be a huge hit to but some others that actually do kinda feel like its really hurt the early clear due to not getting the extra and mana early at a crucial time.
Ty this was a helpful video im kata main and i usually get really fed so much that i can 1v5 but my problem is that i didnt know how to use that to my advantage.. i guess im lacking macro to climb
Can you update your ornn jungle guide for 9.9+ depending on when you do it? It's someone I'm very interested in now that tanks are rotating back in to the meta and I would like some advice. I saw your old guide on it but things have changed including pathing and items.
I need some clarification. When setting up baron, why was it a better idea to push up top and not bot? Wouldn't pulling pressure to the bot side allow for an easy baron / numbers advantage?
I think I indirectly mentioned that but didn't go in-depth.. but ideally if you have positioning, it's always advantageous to have that bottom inhib down because it takes them longer to rotate (and in the Kindred video I did last week, tehy did exactly that) but if a game is really close/vision control is contested/you risk losing the baron to them if it isn't played right. In the context of what I was talkign about here, if you have mid down, it's very easy to use those supers to siege/take top lane and use the double super pressure to fall back onto baron. Essentially, it's more a guiding rule rather than a law of the game :P there are so many variables/team comps/time in the game etc that good influence which is a better decision.
You say that after having the enemy's inhib destroyed in mid lane you can go and push top side with vision in the jungle and/or vision setup inside of the baron pit and so on.. Doesn't that need coordination? There are games in low elo silver and gold where people don't even buy control wards at all. Also if the enemy team has good wave clear doesn't that mean that they can win a fight right there? Basically all im saying is that i am confused about what to do after getting destroying an inhib or having an inhib destroyed. Can you share a basic idea that doesn't need too much coordination? Thank you very much
I really hate to habve to watch this cause people blindly follow it but now i have to cause people are stupid and blindly follow this. so now I HAVE TO WATCH THIS.
Bruh this video is named wrong,it should be named tilt vs tilt,we have kayle that is mad at ww caus no ganks i gues and perma split push till lose or win,we have kayne low-key trolling caus his fed adc took his buffs everyone ints and don't wanna win the perfect example of league
Thanks for watching! I hope it helps (obviously lots of decisions you can make in every game, just focused on this one) Join us on Discord www.discord.gg/JRCKtQx and Proguides www.proguides.com/virkayu BUT ALSO STREAM TOMORROW FIRST ONE IN 20 MONTHS: www.twitch.tv/virkayu
Which server is this Discord located in EUW?
Da
Thank you so much, yesterday we were winning the entire early stage of the game, but couldn't convert anything so we crossed the 40min and lose to a late game Caitlyn.
This was soooo painful XD
At 6:17, I guarantee that Kayn stood still in blue buff pit to flame his ADC for taking blue and then ran it down intentionally.
VS Etho I thought the exact same thing lmao
Wow, this is so correct XD
xDD it crossed my mind
i just saw that and thought.... he is hella tilted now, that blue was expensive xD
As a jungler I can feel it. Like legit I don't mind giving buffs, but the ADC really doesn't need blue usually.
Great video as always, can u do a video about impactful early game pathings after these scuttle changes, would appreciate it thanks!
Yeah I will very soon!
I can tell this is your gameplay and this is a low key way to throw shade at some of your team for trying to 1v9 or getting greedy.
A video can accomplish two things.
@@virkayu lol good video from you as always man keep up the good work
Please make a video on scuttle change and how it affects jungle! :)
I will do!
Well reksai falls off the meta for sure at least. Outpathing is almost nonexistent now. Its either vertical jungle if the stronger jungler decides so, or just normal camp cycling. Strong lv 6 champs shine here while strong lv 3 champs like reksai and xin zhao fall off. Ive been spamming evelynn now mostly since shes excellent with the meta shift, D1+.
Kayn is a great pick again. You can clear 5 camps before scuttle spawns now. Scuttle changes mostly affect pathing and Tarzaned has a guide on it already.
it fucks pretty much all jngl mains
@@hiiambarney4489 a lil bit biased, won't you say
I need this video thank you time after time as J4 I put all lanes ahead just for them to chase kills and never take any objectives and slowly we lose the entire game.
ayy i got so much eye opening mistakes i have been doing on winning matches that can potentially loose me a game..thank u very much
6:38 The only context missing is the chat, where Kayn said " ZOMFG TRIS BLUE, WHY? SURRENDER I FEED NOW GG " and went to run it down.
Hi Virkayu, I am a support main who was gold last season and spent most of my time this season helping my friend improved on league and didnt spend much time climbing.when i decided to start climbing on my new account "Lewd Pug" i began to realize i wasnt as good as i was during season 8/7 or i wasnt keeping up the same habbits. Recently i started to realize when i was off of support i was able to turn and carry games and when i was on support my teamates didnt want to listen to my shot calls and my pings and my wr (which was 62% at one point) declined slightly. After watching just 2 hours of your videos i have managed to learn so much then i ever did in the first 2 years i spent when i discovered league. (i joined in season 5)
I feel like I should have to pay for this content! It's so great getting to hear strategy to the game. Thanks for putting these out.
dude wtf how do you not have more views this is some awesome analytical content that I see myself in the future digest a lot of, its also simple and easy to understand.
First off, great video, really something that I've been trying to work on as a player recently, I have a follow-up question for you, in a game where there are no t2 towers up, and no neutrals to take what should be the macro call? just farm and wait for the barons and dragons to come up? or try to siege an inhib? Maybe just set up vision and take as much farm as possible? I find myself in some games where im ahead and have no clear objective to take, and I feel like I end up throwing away leads in games like this because I dont want to give the enemy time to farm back into the game.
this depends heavily on comp. If your team is mostly melee like a yasuo mid, irelia top, melee support, melee jungler, sieging is not an option. The 2 options then become to either 1-3-1, which is not always the easiest to setup in solo q, or to simply choke out enemy vision, farm enemy jungle camps on respawn and build ur lead as u wait for the baron.
If u do have a good siege comp, like caitlyn xerath both, lux mid, etc, then u can try to siege, thou you do need to consider how much wave clear the enemy team has (you cant siege vs anivia even if u have a siege comp) or how much hard engage they have (if ur comp has no clear disengage/counter engage tool, then getting hard engaged on by the likes of j4 means u might throw the game
so yes, there isnt a clear answer to this, it's HEAVILY reliant on your comp and the enemy comp and also the state of the game (if you're really ahead, diving becomes an option, etc)
Yo Virkayu!! i dont know if you remember me, i was the guy who achieved diamond last season as jungler, and your guides were really useful, this season while i was climbing in my second account I noticed that low elo players don't know how and why to force a neutral objective and there is no guide in any site about it, which usually results in everyone dying in barons fose or not doing the objective at all because they are scared of initiate it because one or two members of the enemy team still alive. by the way keep the good work man
Dude you exactly know what I need like literaly I was searching about that and I found the video on my time-line
We were meant to be
You are by far my favorite person to learn from, thank you for this video I’ve learned so much. This was definitely a video for my elo hahaha
As a fellow Warwick main. You've taught me so much with your videos and crucial macros on warwick that I wouldn't of thought possible. Thank you.
One question, what would you say is the most efficient path for WW right now after jungle changes this patch?
Anything that involves full blue side clear, red buff and a scuttle plus a gank aroudn that. Working on it now
Good stuff, your videos have helped me climb out of silver and slowly progress through gold. Maybe one day I’ll get to that diamond level!
Love your video's man keep up, hope u give some advices for top laner also if possible
Very good video, you're one of the most underrated UA-camrs, great content! keep it up mate !
Thanks!
everything was good and i was following until trist took blue buff and kayn very, very obviously went and fed into mid to retaliate. he was a smart player and that was completely on purpose
when you feel down, watch virkayu and you feel better
+1
so sweet
Bold of you to asume my team will listen to my calls
I assume they won't, I assume mine won't, so I made this video in hopes more people see it so they will all know what to do xD
How many people can relate ?
I apply most of the tips in all of Virkayu's videos combined and am still stuck (in plat 4) because the team doesn't follow/retreat when they should. I play Xerath mid and have a 60% winrate on over 250 games. I win 15 and lose 20 LP, which explains why I'm stuck. I win most of my laning phases even against counter matchups (except a few of them like Kassadin and Katarina because they have the potential to one shot me and leave before I even realize they've jumped on me, since both have a blink), but I can't get a single team (mostly botlanes) that either uses vision or knows their champion to a point where they know whether they will win or lose a fight. I also usually get fed a little late (based on Zwag's videos) and thus I can't carry because I'm not strong enough to poke doen the fed tanks and adc on the other side.
P.S.: Consider it venting/crying if you want, i don't care, the question is: do you relate to this?
Really Helpful! Would love to see more gameplay analysis
Whether to go for Baron or an inhib is something I'm never sure on, I tend to swing toward do inhib as you can then do baron more easily, however I've also seen people in the mind-set of if you take baron off the board nobody else can take it at least even if you end up not using it to it fullest.
Are you planning on a new early clear video now our friend the scuttle is napping a bit longer? theres some champions I don't feel it'll be a huge hit to but some others that actually do kinda feel like its really hurt the early clear due to not getting the extra and mana early at a crucial time.
Ty this was a helpful video im kata main and i usually get really fed so much that i can 1v5 but my problem is that i didnt know how to use that to my advantage.. i guess im lacking macro to climb
Great how to video, defenitly giving me ideas on my how to do art page for 2 talented ink. great work 👍👊👊
Ok i needed this video. Hope it's not outdated
Hey man, can you make an updated clear route video after the scuttle changes? I'm not sure how much has changed but I think it'd be good content.
Oh just saw this but I put out the video for scuttle shortly after this comment :P
You're such a wholesome person!
haha thank you!
you just gave me a few extra braincells, ty i was running low man.
I wish every single players I play with could see this video.
what is good scenarios for red or blue kyan thanks great videos
Them cho Qs were spicy
Can you update your ornn jungle guide for 9.9+ depending on when you do it? It's someone I'm very interested in now that tanks are rotating back in to the meta and I would like some advice. I saw your old guide on it but things have changed including pathing and items.
Would love to see some nocturne guide or nocturne stuff on ur channel 👍
What do you do when your adc split pushes like at the end.. meanwhile your on the other side of map contesting baron or elder?
Should i play renektin jg? (I main jg and also i have rene lvl7)
You can do whatever you want in Iron
@@kawheelchairlemanagement5574 im gold 2.
@@factorynew8122 Kadeem said that renektin jng is op in gold 2 🙂
Xd ok dude whatever..
Is Evelynn in a bad spot right now? I'm doing ok at her lately, but I'm in a lower elo.
She's so-so...
6:30 I blame Tristana for kayn's mental boom xD
That Baron steal tho 👌👌
Ayyy, someone noticed. It made me Ornny, that's for sure. We lost, but it's cool after that.
@@virkayu even if it's a loss that's a Baron steal, that's still a win in my books 👨🍳
That's what I'm saying!
I need some clarification. When setting up baron, why was it a better idea to push up top and not bot? Wouldn't pulling pressure to the bot side allow for an easy baron / numbers advantage?
I think I indirectly mentioned that but didn't go in-depth.. but ideally if you have positioning, it's always advantageous to have that bottom inhib down because it takes them longer to rotate (and in the Kindred video I did last week, tehy did exactly that) but if a game is really close/vision control is contested/you risk losing the baron to them if it isn't played right. In the context of what I was talkign about here, if you have mid down, it's very easy to use those supers to siege/take top lane and use the double super pressure to fall back onto baron. Essentially, it's more a guiding rule rather than a law of the game :P there are so many variables/team comps/time in the game etc that good influence which is a better decision.
@@virkayu that makes perfect sense, thanks!
Top notch quality
Can we get a Zac Jungle Guide in the future?
honestly great video
You say that after having the enemy's inhib destroyed in mid lane you can go and push top side with vision in the jungle and/or vision setup inside of the baron pit and so on.. Doesn't that need coordination? There are games in low elo silver and gold where people don't even buy control wards at all. Also if the enemy team has good wave clear doesn't that mean that they can win a fight right there? Basically all im saying is that i am confused about what to do after getting destroying an inhib or having an inhib destroyed. Can you share a basic idea that doesn't need too much coordination? Thank you very much
good video, keep up the good work
Thanks!
damn that brand death countdown got my ass
kayn is SOOO mad at 6:19
so much salt
I was waiting for this video so long. thanks
I need video how can i close game, when my team don't play for win they play to collect as much minions they can
This literally where I find it hardest to win in silver.
This is great and all, but only works if the other 4 people on your team are as or more intelligent.
I wish my team could understand this :(
6:00 kayn did that bcz trista took his blue
Please make a new jungle pathing guide with the scuttle crab changes
In process!
@@virkayu oh nice thanks a lot
Could you pls do a Nidalee guide? I want topick her up but I have no idea what i'm doing :P
Aw snap missed that
video about 9.9 jungle pathing please
im great early and mid game with wareick, but i struggle hard late game
I really hate to habve to watch this cause people blindly follow it but now i have to
cause people are stupid and blindly follow this. so now I HAVE TO WATCH THIS.
The one in the last clip looks like me
won a game directly after watching this vid
my eyes started bleeding when watching these plays by brand and kayn
imagine editing it
@@virkayu XDDDDDD
u dont understand how many times my team is split between baron ans inhib and we jist dont get anything after we win that fight in mid. so tilting 😪
So many games lost in diamond elo cause of teams that want to make inefficient plays just to improve their kda. Hays
it's very true, and thus I made this video xD
Try oneshoting KaiSa now with that fckd up crown item :)
Ngl the kayn prob died there cuz he tilted from the trist taking his blue
just changed your amount of likes from 666 to 667, stay safe from the devil
Dude that kayn is putting my name to shame
You know why? Because he is not you. He's the batman in tights.
Havent been this early since the last time I had a girlfriend
At least you know why she moved on....
Lmaoooooo^^^^
I had blocked notification on few chanells idk why am i the only one?
kayns will be kayns
How to win... Pray your teammates have a sliver of skill and did not e-bay their acc.
Im always sending this to my 15 kills jungler wich are to stupid to end games...
DID HE JUST WALK UP SLOWLY AND DOWN SMITE?
Smooth Ornn
Agreed Elder One
Basically, don't be stupid, ward and stop greeding
Let’s gooooooo
THIS IS WHAT A WINNER LOOKS LIKE! 🏆
Flexin. Sidenote this is the video I didn’t know I was waiting for!! Thank you !!
8:30 Say no more
No comment.
Bruh this video is named wrong,it should be named tilt vs tilt,we have kayle that is mad at ww caus no ganks i gues and perma split push till lose or win,we have kayne low-key trolling caus his fed adc took his buffs everyone ints and don't wanna win the perfect example of league
Baron steals are so satisfying
I happen to agree
more macro please :O
Are you sure this is diamond gameplay? It looks like bronze gameplay...
lol as if proguides can compare to ur videos
If this is diamond elo... then damn 😂
Mechanics can improve with practice... harder to upgrade brains kappa
That kayne does not have hands tbh...
Please a video about new jungle routes patch 9.9.
Same for jungle tracking at patch 9.9.
jungle tracking vid still applies, all principles are the same, working on one for routes
bro this kayn is fucking bronze how can i learn if he's just trolling and ww is doing logical human being things
im not good enough to understand this vid
2nd
Super close, but third. We give a medal for this. Well done, my son: 🏅
It’s hard to believe this Kayn is diamond. He keeps diving the whole team when he already proved that’s not working :/
Haaaaiiiiii
Heeeeeeeiiiiiiiii
bro this is literally iron game ur spectating im literally not learning much
TIL Diamond game is Iron.... but alrighty.
im late again
You missed first by like 2 seconds. Have this medal, best mod: 🏅