Please note that this is for entertainment purposes only and not the whole picture. Please don't outright copy these settings and apply them to your system. If you want to learn how to overclock this system, please check out the longer SkatterBencher video ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
I just copied all of these settings to my rig with a 13900KS, ProArt z790 being cooled by a arctic liquid freezer 360. Everything works great! I get roundabout 42,000 points in cinebench, have been using the pc with this overclock for over 1 month now and never had a blue screen. Saw on the comments that people were saying that it doesn't work because he has had luck with his chip, getting a sp predicion of 115 while most people get 107, I GET 105 AND EVERYTHING IS ROCK-SOLID. THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
I just did this example on my KS. It will not boost to more than 5900Mhz... I think 1.439v is a little low for 6200Mhz? EDIT: I increased LLC to 7 and now it will boost to 6200 Mhz
I wonder why Asus boards score so low in CB. My Gigabyte Master Z790 with 13900K all cores 5.6 scores 41800+... while my ProArt with 13900KS stock so same 5.6 across cores scores only 38180... I have to try 1my 13900KS in Master board to see what kind of scores it will get there.
@@sebna I score high score with my 13900KS and Asus Z790-E Maximus... same as your Gigabyte... there are quite some settings in BIOS that can effect your score. This could be spread spectrum on both VRM and some other stuff I dont remember and security settings which works with Windows! .. i have disabled most for high score! But Windows and BIOS will be your main culprint.. I dont believe that ASUS in it self is the reason.. I have had also a normal 13900K a 10900K and they all on score top score or what is expected for the high common score.. Also try to set priority to HIGH in taskmanager that can effect score with the difference between high or "medium" high score. Also note if the boards are running the same settings on the CPU... E cores frequency etc.. Also in ASUS you need to disable the POWER LIMIT to engage maximum watt and performance. I think its called MULTI CORE ENHANCEMENT Right now I am at 42600 with 5.7/4.5 ... also the most likely thing that can give different scores are thermals.. if one has a better cooler mount or better cooling it will perform better because the cpu in many cases does run into 100c thermal limit.. so the cooler the more performance and higher score.. also high LLC level can give a little lower score than lower LLC even though with in thermal spec have a nice day.
Excellent video. Succinct and to the point. Not really worth it for a 5% increase but overall, this is outstanding. Well done, well presented and well articulated. Thank you!
I had the 13900K and HERO ... these guides work perfectly K or KS. The only thing you need to do if its not working for you is ex. raise the voltage a few notches compared to his super bin. OR raise the LLC level a notch. Also if the guide is, say 6200 ghz... settle for 6 ghz. I tried all his guides and examples and found that 6ghz was the best for the K model. You also gotta cool it and for stability. Also beware not to include too many cores on the very high frequency... haha I had a tendency to over time add one more core and one more cores to the highest frequencies .. and suddenly the OC will not work because its kind of a give and take OC method.. you will understand if you try his examples... but its great stuff! I love to explore and play around BIOS so this is excellent stuff. I have prepared the 6200 Mhz profile for my KS and will activate in a week when I get my direct die kit. :)
@@C_KoppIn general for running 6.0 Ghz all core requires 1.439/1.447v in my case and also need downclipping on 70 and 80c. But that works on mine with LLC6. I can send you more info if you would like.
@@lassekristensen385 oh yeah I’ll appreciate that thanks !! I got i9 13900k with ASUS z790 hero / Aio Nzxt 73 kraken elite And I don’t know how asus MB works at the moment so if you have all the binding could be soooooo greaaat for me I do 37130 in R23 20407 cpu score in time spy I’m lost
@@lassekristensen385 do you have the name of the voltage section that I have to put 1.439 should the same as the video means the : « Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage » ?
This gives me something to work from...getting the same cpu and mobo in later today. I'm mostly gaming so more looking at maximizing frequency while keeping Temps reasonable. Don't really need the highest avx or all core performance.
I did a perfect per core overclock on my CPU and experienced no problems and the best performance for efficiency and reboot to reboot very little variance. Separately my ram xmp was stabilized and reboot to reboot stable. Combining the two, I had to tweak voltages for my scores to get better because initially they were worse, BUT there is some WEIRD, KIND OF RARE graphical artifacting/glitching/screen desync every now and then when exiting transient load states and going back into idle states. My only assumption is the load changes on idle isn't quite stable now with the RAM. But I've increased points 8 to 11 VF Curve offsets by up to +0.075!!! And it still happens. Cache voltage up, L2 voltage up, even core voltage up from 0.06 acll to 0.10 acll. IT STILL HAPPENS!!! If I play a game, or "do stuff", seemingly no problem? The only thing changing is scores getting lower when changing voltages.
Is it important to overclock . I want to manage thermals as this thing runs hot like the sun . What cooling system do you recommend I installed a asus rog ryujin III 360 aio. I’m not an over clocker . Hence I’m looking for a guide
Thank you for nice informative video I folowed your tutorial, I have same motherboard and cpu but ddr5 Gskill 2x32GB at 6400MHz at standard settings, I have set 5,7 at all P cores and boost 6,1 all P cores and all E cores 4,5 and run prime 95 about after 1½ hour run with avx2 enable one P core hit limit 100C, normal cpu be with flightsimulator 2020 cpu be around 40 to 50C that game use not boost speed but I am very happy with result. And I have custom water cooling system with delid cpu and direct die mounted waterblock so the system is pretty cold at normal use :-)
If you have custom cooling why are you thermal throttling i am using a corsair H170i P cores 5.7Ghz all core negative offset 0.01000 comes out to 1.43v and 4.5Ghz E-cores with adjusted voltages 1.33v LLC5 and my package temp is 92c and my max is 314w OCCT and 320w Cinebench R23 with CL32-6400 OC'ED to 6800 you should be in the mid 80's temp wise with a custom loop.
I followed these instructions and windows 11 startup was corrupted 😢. I had insider build set to beta and receive a green screen of death. No blame on the video author just for others to use discretion
Okay but how to adjust ratio and frequency it makes no sense on how no one shows that but shows adjustments that can be done most of us have issues with the changing of frequency and ratio due to their wording of the term.
I prefer my 13900KS guide because it takes the motherboard rules as a given and tries to tune around that. My 13900K guides are a bit more into the details of voltage tuning
hello, I'm writing here because I can't find anywhere an explanation for the "problem" I can't solve. However, I don't know if this is a problem, but I think so. So, I have a 13700k and when I use cinebench r23 my temperatures reach around 87 degrees during testing, when gaming it is around 60 degrees, I use monitoring programs like HWinfo and HWmonitor, plus armory crate for comparison and occt. the problem is that my P cores, when I use cinebench, stably show programs like hwmonitor, the clock speed is 5300mhz, on the E cores, the clock speed shows 4200mhz while the temperatures are 87-90 degrees. the problem is that when I turn on games like CS2 only for testing, or Escape from tarkov, my "msi afterburner in game overlay" and the same "hwmonitor" and "hwinfo64" show that all my cores stop at a clock speed of 4200 MHz. but for a moment when I'm in the game, like 1 second, my cores are on P 5300 E 4200. I don't know if it's a problem, but it's strange to me that at higher temperatures, the cinebench r23 program is able to reach clocks like 5300mhz and in games there are only 4200 on all cores, can someone help and possibly explain why this is happening?
@Skatterbencher This RAM does not appear on the Asus QVL memory list for this motherboard, or premium Asus Z690 motherboards either. Ive had compatibility issues with this memory on these platforms, giving single-bit memtest errors, regardless of the frequency (Stock 7200 XMP or the OC'd 7600, both which boot/post/run) but dont pass memtest. Any feedback on this?
Can a 360 AIO support this kind of overclocking or should i go for dual 360 rad custom loop? What minimum of watercooling you recommend in this kind of overclocking?
I'm using 420mm radiator from arctic liquid freezer ii for my 13900ks. Idle is 37 c, while gaming its 60-70c but I can always thermal throttle with cinebench r23😂🤣😂😂
I have the Z690 Extreme Glacial Motherboard and the i9-13900KS. Should be able to handle this fine. When attempting to boot up on integrated graphics, the screen begins to violently shake…
In the Specific Performance Core submenu? In that menu we can set the maximum allowed CPU ratio for each P-core. I set some lower than others because they couldn't run the higher frequency.
@@SkatterBencher so this is specific to your chip ? How would/did you discover that core 1 would not run at 62 like core 0,2,3,4,5,6 ? ty **edit** i see that OCCT shows per core errors so i assume there are other ways to seee specific core anomalies ? or do u just go by core temp ?
Yes, it's specific to my chip. I mostly use CoreCycler, but sometimes also other applications like Prime95. To detect which cores are failing is mostly manual labor. Core Temperature is generally not a good indicator (a core can run hot but stable and another core can run cold but unstable)
I've been meaning to work on that kind of content ... if only I had 48h in a day :) My favorite method is to set 1-/2-active P-core to a ratio (let's say 62X), then set every Per P-core Ratio Limit to 62X, then go in the OS and run Prime95. I use Small FFTs non-AVX with affinity set to specific core and check the effective clock in HWiNFO. If the core is running lower than expected frequency or is unstable, I lower the P-core Ratio Limit for that specific core in the BIOS. Rinse and repeat until you've found the maximum frequency for each core :)
@@SkatterBencher Would you mind doing a quick tutorial video on how to do this? I would really like to know how I can test each core and find out which ones are "weak" or "strong" in order to optimize overclocking.
@@SkatterBencher @iXzenoS - Last night I finally had time to start re-overclocking my 13900ks using the method in this video. I need to do it soon because my EK Direct Die block is finally on the way and I want to compare temps to my current setup (delidded>liquid metal>lapped copper IHS>cryonaut>block) to see if the DD block offers any significant gains vs. delidding (no data on the internetz out there on this yet). Anyhow... I tried to setup my Asus 790 Hero BIOS to test each core @ 6200 with P95-NOAVX/Set Affinity. Using the method in your comment above under p95 single-core (no HT) heavy load the single core drops to 5700, they only pop to 6200 under light loads. Am I missing something? Maybe OCTVB need to be used / setup keep x62 @ ~90c or something?? Without clearly understanding how to test each single core stability under heavy load @ 6200 the method used in the this video can not be followed :(
I have the 13900ks.. i have been trying to get to 6.1ghz.. i found ur vids and took some points and gave it a try.. i have it at 6.0ghz.. but whenever i try to use prime95 the pc keeps crashing
Will the EK-Quantum Delta² TEC Fit On ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero motherboard with the condensation rubber gasket that surrounds the cold plate of the cooler installed as well? I have the Z790 Hero + 13900KS and would like to purchase the Delta² TEC after watching your 13900K Maximus Extreme OC video but I'm worried about condensation. The M.2 heatsink looks to be smaller on the Z790 Hero and it might fit with the rubber gasket? If I didn't use the M.2 slot or heatsink closest to the CPU would it fit? Please let me know if you can. Thanks
I did a video with 13700K and MSI Z690 ua-cam.com/video/popQrxK5_nU/v-deo.html ... not sure I will revisit Raptor Lake CPU overclocking now that I done guides with all four variants
Hey SkatterRencher, can you help me which setting should I tweak with to reduce cpu temperature during heavy load out of the box stock setting, and while either gaining or maintaining CPU performance during heavy load of gaming. Motherboard I'm using is Gigabyte Z790 AORUS Master.
Thank you! I have a 13900ks/Asus ROG Maximus Z790 APEX/GSkill 7800 MHz 32gb XMP Tweaked setting. I currently have my p cores set to 60x/60x/58x/58x/58x/58x/58x/58x and e core synced to 4.3ghz. With a Corsair 420mm AIO and thermal Grizzly contact frame I get a maximum of 90c on the cpu-z stress test. Multicore enhancement all limits removed and turbo wattages set to unlimited. SVID behavior on auto as “best case scenario” is unstable. Should I keep the global voltage at 1.435v still or bring it down? Also planning to bump up 3-4 core workload p cores to 59x. My overclock is for gaming only. Thanks again!
For your system, personally I would keep the settings as they are currently (assuming it's stable for you) and look into undervolting using the V/F Point Offset. This will give you an opportunity to increase the average effective all-core frequency under gaming workloads.
Thats pretty sweet! Most ppl cannot sustain a all core x58 without throttle or downbin..... nice done! My watercooling cannot even cool 57x... 56x sure... but im getting a direct die kit next week. Hope that helps haha..
@@lassekristensen385 I’ve found that if you are going to use an AIO, get a 420mm AIO(Corsair h170i) and corresponding case(full tower that fits a 420mm radiator at the top or even front) and put (6) push pull fans set to high. You can always drown out the noise with headphones or better yet noise canceling headphone like I use. I use a stand a lone XLR microphone as well. But back to OCing. I found the key to stability is to set SVID Behavior to “typical”. Temps will be better than auto/worst case scenarios and I noticed about a 10c increase from “trained” behavior and cpu wattage increased as well, but “trained” just wasn’t 100% stable. Every no and then I would get a game crash. Another weird side effect of setting SVID behavior to Typical was much better average Frame rates in game. Also enable TVBoost I set temp 1 to 85c and temp 2 to 90c. Each with a -1 offset. So in cases where you have heavier all P core workloads or heavy game loading, it will drop the frequency a little to reduce temps. Also for stability turn off TVB voltage optimizations for increased stability as it will reduce voltages a little.
Hi! Got a question for you; can I use these Dominator Platinum RGB, DDR5-6200, XMP 3.0, CL32 64 GB Quad-Kit for this Tutorial instead the G.SKILL Trident Z DDR5-7200 CL34 32GB with the same results? Greetings from Germany
Excellent video! I will test with your recommendations, I just have a different ram : G.SKILL Trident Z DDR5-7200 CL34 32GB RAM => G.SKILL Trident Z DDR5-7600 CL36 32GB ! You indicate for yourself that you have to change your Dram frequency from 7200MHz to 7600MHz... my question is the following: should I keep my frequency at 7600MHz or can I raise it? If ok to increase what would be the recommended value according to you ? Thank you very much for your help, I love what you do!
My suggestion would be that first you can try loading the XMP setting and see if everything is stable. If it is, you can try increasing just the memory frequency (while keeping XMP loaded) and see if it's stable again. I don't have a recommended value ... higher is better :)
if i'm getting WHEA errors after applying these settings (110 SP) that occasionally cause PC to freeze/BSOD or games to freeze/crash what step should i take next?
My standard suggestion is always to watch the longer SkatterBencher guide as it provides more context and information on how to overclock a CPU ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html.
You think there is any significant difference between the overclocking capabilities for the Hero vs. the Strix-E? Doesn't seem like it from the specs I've seen
It is normal and it is good. Having cores that aren't computing drop to really low speeds (and voltages) creates extra thermal and power headroom for the cores that are at work. You need some cores to drop to a low frequency so others can boost to their maximum frequency. If you want to avoid dropping to low frequency, you can for example disable C-States
I would like to know the specifics of your cooling setup here. Is it Direct Die? (I see that the linked block is not, but I just need to verify) If not, are you using Liquid Metal and a custom copper IHS? If it is DD, are you using Liquid Metal? I have been thinking about the KS over K simply because I have the money to spend, but I would need to know if this watt-gargler is going to hit 100 degrees under full load even when cooled by the absolute best liquid cooling solution available bar any exotic methods. Having the best possible CPU is useless to me if I need to chase it around the yard swinging an industrial chiller unit as soon as I consider a heavy load scenario.
@@SkatterBencher Thank you for the very swift reply! If you don't mind me asking: Do you think there's proper OC headroom on a KS if I also want to cool a 4090 on the same loop? I mean throwing the whole watercooling kitchen sink on it. DD, Liquid Metal, two 560 EK water blocks, proper fans and so on? My cart is already closing in on $10k, and I'm not afraid to make it 12k if need be.
With the proper radiator capacity, having a 4090 in the same loop as a KS won't hurt the KS overclocking headroom. For pretty much every CPU, ultimately the bottleneck because heat transfer from die to the water.
Why not do these guides on a chip which is more average so people who don't know what they're doing can directly copy easily, considering this is meant to be for beginners. An SP 115 is nutty. Yes it is good practice not to copy settings from another chip because they're all different, but if you do it on a bad chip, the chances are they're more likely to work on a wider range.
@@surfintheinternetzufos8626 m,y 13900ks is SP106 so not much better, i won't even bother with this haha, I think currently undervolting might be the only way to reliably have a higher all core boost (to say, 5.7ac) without hitting TJMax all the time (during bench)
I used the same component as your pc After i tried this configuration,everything is perfect But then my chrome keep crashing Anyone know how to fix it?
It sounds like the 1T boost is too high for your CPU. I wouldn't suggest to just copy my settings since overclocking margin is sample-specific. I can suggest you to watch this longer guide which offers multiple OC strategies and provides more context as well: ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
So there are no OCTVB in this guide? Normally you always setup the temps and downbin! ;) Will be the first time I try without then. EDIT : I just did this example on my KS. It will not boost to more than 5900Mhz... I think 1.439v is a little low for 6200Mhz? EDIT: I increased LLC to 7 and now it will boost to 6200 Mhz
I want to upgrade my old pc ryzen 1700x + gtx 1070 to i9 13900k+ 4060. Is overclocking necessary? I want to get constant daily operating speed of 4 ghz or below 4.4 ghz from 13900k, Will that be automatically achieved through a software or some bios settings? Someone please guide me I'm a noob at overclocking. I used my old ryzen 1700x at auto settings and it almost always operated at 3.3 or 3.4 ghz speed at 1.2 v. I want to uae the new PC for Zbrush, Premiere pro, After effects and Photoshop. Please guide me
I would never recommend just copying settings from the internet and applying them to your system. That said, the overclocking process of the 13900KS and 14900K are very similar. So I would suggest you can perhaps check out my longer 13900KS video to learn about the overclocking process, then apply the settings you deem appropriate for your system ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
Technically the same values will work, but it's unlikely that your CPU will be capable of it (since the 13900KS is a great bin). So best to start with lower values. The overclocking process will be very similar to the 13900KS, so you can also watch the long-form video to get more detailed information about overclocking Raptor Lake ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
Intel warrants CPU temperature up to 100C (TjMax) just like it warrants, for example, the 13900KS to boost up to 6 GHz. So, staying below 100C is operating within specification.
You are SO right! I just did this example and mine KS wont go over 5900Mhz either! His other examples usually work! I will try a higher LLC or more voltage.. but its a little meeeeeh to call it 6200 OC when in fact it dosent even get to 6 ghz. EDIT: I increased LLC to 7 and now it will boost to 6200 Mhz
I wouldn't recommend just copying the settings even for a 13900KS. My suggestion would be to check out the 13700K SkatterBencher guide I made ua-cam.com/video/popQrxK5_nU/v-deo.html
I’ve been meaning to ask you, is there a reason why adaptive boost technology is set to auto? Will enabling it affect the “indefinite time limit” for maximum power draw? This is something I always set to enabled by habit, on older Gen CPU’s, so I’m curious as to how this translates to raptor lake. 🤔
Not all systems are the same, so copying the settings from a working system isn't a guarantee. I suggest that you can check my longer video for more information on this overclock ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
The overclocking process will be similar but the results may of course differ substantially. I recommend watching the full guide with more detailed information ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
Hey Skatter im from brazil and the guys overhere dont knows to make overclock the 14 generation. The culture is bad, very bad ! do what lol Can i use this method por my 14700k? for stay same in 5.6ghz !!!!!
I love the Brazilian overclocking community! You guys are so passionate and it was so much fun to fly out in 2016 and 2017! For the 14700K, you can check my dedicated video: ua-cam.com/video/1kQ8waHIjAw/v-deo.html
I personally think that if you are using AVX offset then it is fake. It's going to end up reducing your clocks under all sorts of normal operation and gaming for no reason.
Please note that this is for entertainment purposes only and not the whole picture. Please don't outright copy these settings and apply them to your system. If you want to learn how to overclock this system, please check out the longer SkatterBencher video ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
I just copied all of these settings to my rig with a 13900KS, ProArt z790 being cooled by a arctic liquid freezer 360. Everything works great! I get roundabout 42,000 points in cinebench, have been using the pc with this overclock for over 1 month now and never had a blue screen. Saw on the comments that people were saying that it doesn't work because he has had luck with his chip, getting a sp predicion of 115 while most people get 107, I GET 105 AND EVERYTHING IS ROCK-SOLID. THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
I just did this example on my KS. It will not boost to more than 5900Mhz... I think 1.439v is a little low for 6200Mhz? EDIT: I increased LLC to 7 and now it will boost to 6200 Mhz
I wonder why Asus boards score so low in CB. My Gigabyte Master Z790 with 13900K all cores 5.6 scores 41800+... while my ProArt with 13900KS stock so same 5.6 across cores scores only 38180...
I have to try 1my 13900KS in Master board to see what kind of scores it will get there.
@@sebna I score high score with my 13900KS and Asus Z790-E Maximus... same as your Gigabyte... there are quite some settings in BIOS that can effect your score. This could be spread spectrum on both VRM and some other stuff I dont remember and security settings which works with Windows! .. i have disabled most for high score! But Windows and BIOS will be your main culprint.. I dont believe that ASUS in it self is the reason.. I have had also a normal 13900K a 10900K and they all on score top score or what is expected for the high common score.. Also try to set priority to HIGH in taskmanager that can effect score with the difference between high or "medium" high score. Also note if the boards are running the same settings on the CPU... E cores frequency etc.. Also in ASUS you need to disable the POWER LIMIT to engage maximum watt and performance. I think its called MULTI CORE ENHANCEMENT Right now I am at 42600 with 5.7/4.5 ... also the most likely thing that can give different scores are thermals.. if one has a better cooler mount or better cooling it will perform better because the cpu in many cases does run into 100c thermal limit.. so the cooler the more performance and higher score.. also high LLC level can give a little lower score than lower LLC even though with in thermal spec have a nice day.
I did the same.. but mine keeps getting blue screen.. custom loop with one 420 radiator for cpu one 240 and one 140 for gpu..
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Excellent video. Succinct and to the point. Not really worth it for a 5% increase but overall, this is outstanding. Well done, well presented and well articulated. Thank you!
I have the same board but the 13900K. I would be grateful to see a 6.0 overclock on the Z790 hero. If not a video then settings would be great.
I had the 13900K and HERO ... these guides work perfectly K or KS. The only thing you need to do if its not working for you is ex. raise the voltage a few notches compared to his super bin. OR raise the LLC level a notch. Also if the guide is, say 6200 ghz... settle for 6 ghz. I tried all his guides and examples and found that 6ghz was the best for the K model. You also gotta cool it and for stability. Also beware not to include too many cores on the very high frequency... haha I had a tendency to over time add one more core and one more cores to the highest frequencies .. and suddenly the OC will not work because its kind of a give and take OC method.. you will understand if you try his examples... but its great stuff! I love to explore and play around BIOS so this is excellent stuff. I have prepared the 6200 Mhz profile for my KS and will activate in a week when I get my direct die kit. :)
hey@@lassekristensen385 what voltage ? got same mother B with i9 13900k it will help me a lot thanks :)
@@C_KoppIn general for running 6.0 Ghz all core requires 1.439/1.447v in my case and also need downclipping on 70 and 80c. But that works on mine with LLC6. I can send you more info if you would like.
@@lassekristensen385 oh yeah I’ll appreciate that thanks !!
I got i9 13900k with ASUS z790 hero / Aio Nzxt 73 kraken elite
And I don’t know how asus MB works at the moment so if you have all the binding could be soooooo greaaat for me
I do 37130 in R23
20407 cpu score in time spy
I’m lost
@@lassekristensen385 do you have the name of the voltage section that I have to put 1.439 should the same as the video means the :
« Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage » ?
This gives me something to work from...getting the same cpu and mobo in later today. I'm mostly gaming so more looking at maximizing frequency while keeping Temps reasonable. Don't really need the highest avx or all core performance.
Good luck!
What's the settings for 14900k?
I did a perfect per core overclock on my CPU and experienced no problems and the best performance for efficiency and reboot to reboot very little variance.
Separately my ram xmp was stabilized and reboot to reboot stable.
Combining the two, I had to tweak voltages for my scores to get better because initially they were worse, BUT there is some WEIRD, KIND OF RARE graphical artifacting/glitching/screen desync every now and then when exiting transient load states and going back into idle states.
My only assumption is the load changes on idle isn't quite stable now with the RAM. But I've increased points 8 to 11 VF Curve offsets by up to +0.075!!! And it still happens. Cache voltage up, L2 voltage up, even core voltage up from 0.06 acll to 0.10 acll. IT STILL HAPPENS!!! If I play a game, or "do stuff", seemingly no problem? The only thing changing is scores getting lower when changing voltages.
Hey, I’ve been facing the same thing, whenever watching UA-cam or Netflix or from an idle state I see the same artifacts. Very odd
thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Is it important to overclock . I want to manage thermals as this thing runs hot like the sun . What cooling system do you recommend I installed a asus rog ryujin III 360 aio. I’m not an over clocker . Hence I’m looking for a guide
Thank you for nice informative video I folowed your tutorial, I have same motherboard and cpu but ddr5 Gskill 2x32GB at 6400MHz at standard settings, I have set 5,7 at all P cores and boost 6,1 all P cores and all E cores 4,5 and run prime 95 about after 1½ hour run with avx2 enable one P core hit limit 100C, normal cpu be with flightsimulator 2020 cpu be around 40 to 50C that game use not boost speed but I am very happy with result. And I have custom water cooling system with delid cpu and direct die mounted waterblock so the system is pretty cold at normal use :-)
If you have custom cooling why are you thermal throttling i am using a corsair H170i P cores 5.7Ghz all core negative offset 0.01000 comes out to 1.43v and 4.5Ghz E-cores with adjusted voltages 1.33v LLC5 and my package temp is 92c and my max is 314w OCCT and 320w Cinebench R23 with CL32-6400 OC'ED to 6800 you should be in the mid 80's temp wise with a custom loop.
I followed these instructions and windows 11 startup was corrupted 😢. I had insider build set to beta and receive a green screen of death. No blame on the video author just for others to use discretion
I have the same setup but with g skill 6400 OC to 6800 and everything works fine with the same settings 👍
can you make a video howto overclock/undervolt i913900k on Z790 Apex pls? at 6ghz and e-core enabled, thank you!
Okay but how to adjust ratio and frequency it makes no sense on how no one shows that but shows adjustments that can be done most of us have issues with the changing of frequency and ratio due to their wording of the term.
@SkatterBencher Hello, Thanks for the great walk through. Out of all the 13900K and 13900KS videos which one do you recommend for daily?
I prefer my 13900KS guide because it takes the motherboard rules as a given and tries to tune around that. My 13900K guides are a bit more into the details of voltage tuning
hello, I'm writing here because I can't find anywhere an explanation for the "problem" I can't solve. However, I don't know if this is a problem, but I think so. So, I have a 13700k and when I use cinebench r23 my temperatures reach around 87 degrees during testing, when gaming it is around 60 degrees, I use monitoring programs like HWinfo and HWmonitor, plus armory crate for comparison and occt. the problem is that my P cores, when I use cinebench, stably show programs like hwmonitor, the clock speed is 5300mhz, on the E cores, the clock speed shows 4200mhz while the temperatures are 87-90 degrees. the problem is that when I turn on games like CS2 only for testing, or Escape from tarkov, my "msi afterburner in game overlay" and the same "hwmonitor" and "hwinfo64" show that all my cores stop at a clock speed of 4200 MHz. but for a moment when I'm in the game, like 1 second, my cores are on P 5300 E 4200. I don't know if it's a problem, but it's strange to me that at higher temperatures, the cinebench r23 program is able to reach clocks like 5300mhz and in games there are only 4200 on all cores, can someone help and possibly explain why this is happening?
@Skatterbencher
This RAM does not appear on the Asus QVL memory list for this motherboard, or premium Asus Z690 motherboards either. Ive had compatibility issues with this memory on these platforms, giving single-bit memtest errors, regardless of the frequency (Stock 7200 XMP or the OC'd 7600, both which boot/post/run) but dont pass memtest. Any feedback on this?
Can a 360 AIO support this kind of overclocking or should i go for dual 360 rad custom loop? What minimum of watercooling you recommend in this kind of overclocking?
I'm using 420mm radiator from arctic liquid freezer ii for my 13900ks.
Idle is 37 c, while gaming its 60-70c but I can always thermal throttle with cinebench r23😂🤣😂😂
@Terrazine thanks. This actually helps me alot on my build.
I have the Z690 Extreme Glacial Motherboard and the i9-13900KS. Should be able to handle this fine. When attempting to boot up on integrated graphics, the screen begins to violently shake…
115SP chip wtf. And even so, other than Geekbench and AI bench, the increase is barely 5%, most of the time 2-3%. Probably less in a game.
Don't you have any intention in doing the same 5 min OC video for the 13700K ? I know you have a 58 min video about it, but a 5 min it's even better !
I also have a 5 minute with 13700K already ua-cam.com/video/fMMNoylydKE/v-deo.html
Is there a translation for this for a z790 classified board? The options are different
Having a 115 SP score CPU may have huge factor with this OC.
Thanks for all the great videos. It is helpful to be able to follow along. Why do you throw in the 61 ration in between the 62's ?
In the Specific Performance Core submenu?
In that menu we can set the maximum allowed CPU ratio for each P-core. I set some lower than others because they couldn't run the higher frequency.
@@SkatterBencher so this is specific to your chip ? How would/did you discover that core 1 would not run at 62 like core 0,2,3,4,5,6 ? ty **edit** i see that OCCT shows per core errors so i assume there are other ways to seee specific core anomalies ? or do u just go by core temp ?
Yes, it's specific to my chip. I mostly use CoreCycler, but sometimes also other applications like Prime95. To detect which cores are failing is mostly manual labor. Core Temperature is generally not a good indicator (a core can run hot but stable and another core can run cold but unstable)
@@SkatterBencher thanks for the reply. This is important as most people would always assume heat is the sole indicator
Problem is that not all CPU can achieve same frequency and voltage while overclo king due to silicon lottery.
@ 2:05 how do you know which cores are good cores / bad cores to set the highest ratio limits on??
Manual testing is the only way to find out.
@@SkatterBencher Thanks, what's your favorite method? EDIT: actually, that would make a great, quick video for your chan :)
I've been meaning to work on that kind of content ... if only I had 48h in a day :)
My favorite method is to set 1-/2-active P-core to a ratio (let's say 62X), then set every Per P-core Ratio Limit to 62X, then go in the OS and run Prime95. I use Small FFTs non-AVX with affinity set to specific core and check the effective clock in HWiNFO. If the core is running lower than expected frequency or is unstable, I lower the P-core Ratio Limit for that specific core in the BIOS.
Rinse and repeat until you've found the maximum frequency for each core :)
@@SkatterBencher Would you mind doing a quick tutorial video on how to do this? I would really like to know how I can test each core and find out which ones are "weak" or "strong" in order to optimize overclocking.
@@SkatterBencher @iXzenoS - Last night I finally had time to start re-overclocking my 13900ks using the method in this video. I need to do it soon because my EK Direct Die block is finally on the way and I want to compare temps to my current setup (delidded>liquid metal>lapped copper IHS>cryonaut>block) to see if the DD block offers any significant gains vs. delidding (no data on the internetz out there on this yet).
Anyhow... I tried to setup my Asus 790 Hero BIOS to test each core @ 6200 with P95-NOAVX/Set Affinity. Using the method in your comment above under p95 single-core (no HT) heavy load the single core drops to 5700, they only pop to 6200 under light loads. Am I missing something? Maybe OCTVB need to be used / setup keep x62 @ ~90c or something??
Without clearly understanding how to test each single core stability under heavy load @ 6200 the method used in the this video can not be followed :(
I have the 13900ks.. i have been trying to get to 6.1ghz.. i found ur vids and took some points and gave it a try.. i have it at 6.0ghz.. but whenever i try to use prime95 the pc keeps crashing
I've tried two motherboards and 3 cpus and I can't over clock the ram. its 7200 tforce
Will the EK-Quantum Delta² TEC Fit On ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero motherboard with the condensation rubber gasket that surrounds the cold plate of the cooler installed as well? I have the Z790 Hero + 13900KS and would like to purchase the Delta² TEC after watching your 13900K Maximus Extreme OC video but I'm worried about condensation. The M.2 heatsink looks to be smaller on the Z790 Hero and it might fit with the rubber gasket? If I didn't use the M.2 slot or heatsink closest to the CPU would it fit? Please let me know if you can. Thanks
Same Mobo and same guide with 13900kf and using Gskill 8000mt ram sticks??
thanks for all the information shared here, is it possible to do a video for MSI motherboard?
I did a video with 13700K and MSI Z690 ua-cam.com/video/popQrxK5_nU/v-deo.html ... not sure I will revisit Raptor Lake CPU overclocking now that I done guides with all four variants
My board doesn’t have these option. With my i9 13900kf
Can you make a guide for same cpu but on a z790 asus prime?
Its the same.. just follow this guide.. as long as ASUS is ASUS and same chipset etc. it will work.
Didn’t work for me my pc wouldn’t boot up after copying all these settings same cpu Corsair i8100 pc
Hey SkatterRencher, can you help me which setting should I tweak with to reduce cpu temperature during heavy load out of the box stock setting, and while either gaining or maintaining CPU performance during heavy load of gaming. Motherboard I'm using is Gigabyte Z790 AORUS Master.
I think the option is called CPU Over Temperature Protection. It allows setting TjMax to a lower value than default.
Impossible with my Gigabytes AZ790 UD. Idem for the speed for DDR5. She don't work at 6400mhz. I'm waiting for a new bios.
Thank you! I have a 13900ks/Asus ROG Maximus Z790 APEX/GSkill 7800 MHz 32gb XMP Tweaked setting. I currently have my p cores set to 60x/60x/58x/58x/58x/58x/58x/58x and e core synced to 4.3ghz. With a Corsair 420mm AIO and thermal Grizzly contact frame I get a maximum of 90c on the cpu-z stress test. Multicore enhancement all limits removed and turbo wattages set to unlimited. SVID behavior on auto as “best case scenario” is unstable. Should I keep the global voltage at 1.435v still or bring it down? Also planning to bump up 3-4 core workload p cores to 59x. My overclock is for gaming only. Thanks again!
For your system, personally I would keep the settings as they are currently (assuming it's stable for you) and look into undervolting using the V/F Point Offset. This will give you an opportunity to increase the average effective all-core frequency under gaming workloads.
@@SkatterBencher do you know which XMP setting would be the. It’s stable XMP 1, 2, or tweaked? Thank you!
Thats pretty sweet! Most ppl cannot sustain a all core x58 without throttle or downbin..... nice done! My watercooling cannot even cool 57x... 56x sure... but im getting a direct die kit next week. Hope that helps haha..
@@lassekristensen385 I’ve found that if you are going to use an AIO, get a 420mm AIO(Corsair h170i) and corresponding case(full tower that fits a 420mm radiator at the top or even front) and put (6) push pull fans set to high. You can always drown out the noise with headphones or better yet noise canceling headphone like I use. I use a stand a lone XLR microphone as well. But back to OCing. I found the key to stability is to set SVID Behavior to “typical”. Temps will be better than auto/worst case scenarios and I noticed about a 10c increase from “trained” behavior and cpu wattage increased as well, but “trained” just wasn’t 100% stable. Every no and then I would get a game crash. Another weird side effect of setting SVID behavior to Typical was much better average Frame rates in game. Also enable TVBoost I set temp 1 to 85c and temp 2 to 90c. Each with a -1 offset. So in cases where you have heavier all P core workloads or heavy game loading, it will drop the frequency a little to reduce temps. Also for stability turn off TVB voltage optimizations for increased stability as it will reduce voltages a little.
Hi! Got a question for you; can I use these Dominator Platinum RGB, DDR5-6200, XMP 3.0, CL32 64 GB Quad-Kit for this Tutorial instead the G.SKILL Trident Z DDR5-7200 CL34 32GB with the same results? Greetings from Germany
Sure. Enabling XMP will load the settings of your memory kit specifically. So no worries.
@@SkatterBencher Thx mate for the quick response :)
Excellent video! I will test with your recommendations, I just have a different ram : G.SKILL Trident Z DDR5-7200 CL34 32GB RAM => G.SKILL Trident Z DDR5-7600 CL36 32GB !
You indicate for yourself that you have to change your Dram frequency from 7200MHz to 7600MHz... my question is the following: should I keep my frequency at 7600MHz or can I raise it?
If ok to increase what would be the recommended value according to you ?
Thank you very much for your help, I love what you do!
My suggestion would be that first you can try loading the XMP setting and see if everything is stable. If it is, you can try increasing just the memory frequency (while keeping XMP loaded) and see if it's stable again.
I don't have a recommended value ... higher is better :)
What about undervolt for lower temp? I have aircooler and some package burst in game due to high temp and throttle
What do you mean by "package burst"?
How to undervolt i9 13900ks for same or lil less performance and lower temp. Please I'm dieing of heat too hot man...
whats is the safe overclock speed for ks ?
Thank for sharing did you have guide 13900KS on MSI Mainboard?
if i'm getting WHEA errors after applying these settings (110 SP) that occasionally cause PC to freeze/BSOD or games to freeze/crash what step should i take next?
My standard suggestion is always to watch the longer SkatterBencher guide as it provides more context and information on how to overclock a CPU ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html.
I dont need to overclock the 13900ks. It is already crazy fast out of the box and overclock just makes it insane
You think there is any significant difference between the overclocking capabilities for the Hero vs. the Strix-E? Doesn't seem like it from the specs I've seen
I'm not sure since I didn't test the Strix-E
Hi i followed the overclock..
is it normal that the cpu sore speed drops in the idle or what can i do that its stays at a speed?
It is normal and it is good.
Having cores that aren't computing drop to really low speeds (and voltages) creates extra thermal and power headroom for the cores that are at work. You need some cores to drop to a low frequency so others can boost to their maximum frequency.
If you want to avoid dropping to low frequency, you can for example disable C-States
I would like to know the specifics of your cooling setup here. Is it Direct Die? (I see that the linked block is not, but I just need to verify) If not, are you using Liquid Metal and a custom copper IHS? If it is DD, are you using Liquid Metal?
I have been thinking about the KS over K simply because I have the money to spend, but I would need to know if this watt-gargler is going to hit 100 degrees under full load even when cooled by the absolute best liquid cooling solution available bar any exotic methods. Having the best possible CPU is useless to me if I need to chase it around the yard swinging an industrial chiller unit as soon as I consider a heavy load scenario.
No direct die and no liquid metal. Just a regular water block and regular thermal paste
@@SkatterBencher Thank you for the very swift reply! If you don't mind me asking: Do you think there's proper OC headroom on a KS if I also want to cool a 4090 on the same loop? I mean throwing the whole watercooling kitchen sink on it. DD, Liquid Metal, two 560 EK water blocks, proper fans and so on?
My cart is already closing in on $10k, and I'm not afraid to make it 12k if need be.
With the proper radiator capacity, having a 4090 in the same loop as a KS won't hurt the KS overclocking headroom. For pretty much every CPU, ultimately the bottleneck because heat transfer from die to the water.
So for gaming OC vs stock does not matter ?
Tried copying these settings and my pc wouldn’t boot up same cpu 😭
Why not do these guides on a chip which is more average so people who don't know what they're doing can directly copy easily, considering this is meant to be for beginners. An SP 115 is nutty.
Yes it is good practice not to copy settings from another chip because they're all different, but if you do it on a bad chip, the chances are they're more likely to work on a wider range.
Agreed, my sp103 13900ks is saying 1.608v for 6GHz lmao
@@surfintheinternetzufos8626 m,y 13900ks is SP106 so not much better, i won't even bother with this haha, I think currently undervolting might be the only way to reliably have a higher all core boost (to say, 5.7ac) without hitting TJMax all the time (during bench)
I used the same component as your pc
After i tried this configuration,everything is perfect
But then my chrome keep crashing
Anyone know how to fix it?
It sounds like the 1T boost is too high for your CPU.
I wouldn't suggest to just copy my settings since overclocking margin is sample-specific.
I can suggest you to watch this longer guide which offers multiple OC strategies and provides more context as well: ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
So there are no OCTVB in this guide? Normally you always setup the temps and downbin! ;) Will be the first time I try without then. EDIT : I just did this example on my KS. It will not boost to more than 5900Mhz... I think 1.439v is a little low for 6200Mhz? EDIT: I increased LLC to 7 and now it will boost to 6200 Mhz
Not in the 5min OC, but I did do OCTVB in the longer SkatterBencher ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
@@SkatterBencher Thanks! For some reason my Z790 HERO and 13900KS need +0.010v on top of LLC6 to be stable
can you help me new 14700K? i ranched 5700mhz but full load cinebench 5200
I want to upgrade my old pc ryzen 1700x + gtx 1070 to i9 13900k+ 4060. Is overclocking necessary? I want to get constant daily operating speed of 4 ghz or below 4.4 ghz from 13900k, Will that be automatically achieved through a software or some bios settings? Someone please guide me I'm a noob at overclocking. I used my old ryzen 1700x at auto settings and it almost always operated at 3.3 or 3.4 ghz speed at 1.2 v. I want to uae the new PC for Zbrush, Premiere pro, After effects and Photoshop. Please guide me
Hey @skatterbencher can I use these setting for 14900k on my Asus Maximus Dark Hero MOBo??
I would never recommend just copying settings from the internet and applying them to your system. That said, the overclocking process of the 13900KS and 14900K are very similar.
So I would suggest you can perhaps check out my longer 13900KS video to learn about the overclocking process, then apply the settings you deem appropriate for your system ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
@@SkatterBencher thank you so much. I really appreciate you replying back to me.
@@SkatterBencher thank you.. your video really help me. Again thanks for replying to me pointing me in the right direction..
This went old soooo bad man... 😢
Will this work on the z790 apex
funcionaria para core i9-13900k a 6800 mhz mainboar asus z790 H ???
Hi for i7 13700k z790 can I use same value or I need to use some lower?
Technically the same values will work, but it's unlikely that your CPU will be capable of it (since the 13900KS is a great bin). So best to start with lower values.
The overclocking process will be very similar to the 13900KS, so you can also watch the long-form video to get more detailed information about overclocking Raptor Lake ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
I am a complete noob with this, if I have “unlimited power” on in bios my cpu hits 100’c, I thought that is bad??
Intel warrants CPU temperature up to 100C (TjMax) just like it warrants, for example, the 13900KS to boost up to 6 GHz. So, staying below 100C is operating within specification.
@@SkatterBencher oh I see, I also just seen your pinned comment, thanks for replying 👍
I did that on my pc now doesn’t turn on, so now what can I do ?
Press the Clear CMOS button and you can start from scratch again :)
ram speed 7800 trident. I apply it, but after 3 minutes the PC freezes. From where?
Motherboard z790 f gaming
does this work with the ASUS TUF Z790 ddr5 version to?
The overclocking process will be similar, but the results may differ substantially
hi i am looking for a good i9 13900k would you like to sell i also have the same motherboard
5 minutes...you must be joking. Thats like half an hour listening what you do, trakcing it and applying while video is paused. Thank you
Still faster than my 50 minute full length SkatterBencher! :)
well u didnt rly show us any work where it will keep even above 5,9ghz :D
You are SO right! I just did this example and mine KS wont go over 5900Mhz either! His other examples usually work! I will try a higher LLC or more voltage.. but its a little meeeeeh to call it 6200 OC when in fact it dosent even get to 6 ghz. EDIT: I increased LLC to 7 and now it will boost to 6200 Mhz
can I use the same settings on intel I7 13700k?
I wouldn't recommend just copying the settings even for a 13900KS. My suggestion would be to check out the 13700K SkatterBencher guide I made ua-cam.com/video/popQrxK5_nU/v-deo.html
I got blue screen
Can i follow this with the Non-S with very good cooling?
The process for K and KS is very similar, so it should work. Of course, depending on the quality of your CPU :)
@@SkatterBencher thanks! it does 6,2 somtimes after using AI OC, 1,540 VID
I’ve been meaning to ask you, is there a reason why adaptive boost technology is set to auto? Will enabling it affect the “indefinite time limit” for maximum power draw? This is something I always set to enabled by habit, on older Gen CPU’s, so I’m curious as to how this translates to raptor lake. 🤔
The motherboard auto-rules set the option to Enabled when Auto is selected. Hence why I leave it at Auto :)
@@SkatterBencher gotcha, thank you!
14700k 14900k
I have the same mobo, cpu, and ram. I applied all these values and it freezes on the windows sign in page 😑… idk what the heck is going on.
Not all systems are the same, so copying the settings from a working system isn't a guarantee. I suggest that you can check my longer video for more information on this overclock ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
Does this work for I9 14900k
The overclocking process will be similar but the results may of course differ substantially. I recommend watching the full guide with more detailed information ua-cam.com/video/dpWw_5KfpIw/v-deo.html
@@SkatterBencher could you eventually make one on the i9 14900k
I already have a guide with the 14900K ua-cam.com/video/Ww_BJhz_w98/v-deo.html
Hey Skatter im from brazil and the guys overhere dont knows to make overclock the 14 generation. The culture is bad, very bad ! do what lol
Can i use this method por my 14700k? for stay same in 5.6ghz !!!!!
I love the Brazilian overclocking community! You guys are so passionate and it was so much fun to fly out in 2016 and 2017!
For the 14700K, you can check my dedicated video: ua-cam.com/video/1kQ8waHIjAw/v-deo.html
I personally think that if you are using AVX offset then it is fake. It's going to end up reducing your clocks under all sorts of normal operation and gaming for no reason.
Wrong.
lol sp 115
This is such a joke.
Errorr 😂
useless if ur a gamer as allmost all games use avx
It’s not worth if you make overclock by using core usage 😊