To all new players who is thinking of starting zzz, if you put in 5 mins to do your dailies and not let your energy overfill you will get significant progress. Drip marketing on social media, let's you prefarm weeks in advance. Tldr; you get what you put in. Tbh this guy didn't put much in.
Seriously, the guy said in the video he's had his backup battery at 2400. You literally need exactly 30 whole days of overcapping to reach that value. The charge rate for overcapping is 1/3 as efficient as normal charge rate. Why should people expect to build day one characters when they don't play the game?
So far i have no problem on building characters Didnt expect to get Caesar and Burnice both but manage to build them within 1 patch/before the next patch I already pre-farm for Burnice materials Didn't expect to get Yanagi and Lighter both Already pre-farmed for Yanagi so i max her easily while it took 2 weeks to completely build lighter because im also farming Yanagi's disk...i didn't expected to get lighter so that was not planned I prefarmed for Miyabi so already maxed her level and Signature engine etc. on day 1 Got lucky to manage to build her on day 1 too Only 30 minutes of disk farming manage to complete 4 piece of the new disk I used up 20+ Ether battery So my Miyabi have 80% crit rate and 145% crit damage on day 1so i stopped farming disk So now im pre-farming for Evelyn More easy to pre-farm compared to Miyabi because Evelyn's bosses materials is already available I can easily max her on day 1 only the disk i need to farm but i only need 3 disk slot to fill The tech to get the new weekly boss materials is to buy the box thing that you can buy on outpost the box can contain weekly boss material that you can choose So i saved a few boxes so when Miyabi's new weekly boss came out on the patch release I just choose the new weekly boss materials enough to get E core unlocked so i used stamina to unlock the F core
If you let your energy overcap than you're clearly not in a position to complain about resources. Cant expect to build your characters if you dont put in the daily effort, this is literally the base mechanic of every gacha. So this first complaint is a problem you created yourself, it's not a game issue.
Yeah, I honestly think they don't need to change character building. I don't think someone who barely plays should be able to level up the same as someone who grinds for hours.
This is an issue for the majority of the base not sweaty players that play every day for hours, there is a reason they add the over cap in the first place not for you but for people that can't play every day. And for the game to grow more they need to accommodate that player more
@@ethericdezigns1528it’s not even hours anymore, u login select the mats you wanna farm, then use miyabi and cleared it in like 20 seconds, And all the farming material are 100 energy each, so you only need to do this twice a day to maximize your energy level (3 times if were counting coffee) Also on a side note from someone who have built 3 teams (9 characters) to level 55 (yes you definitely should stop at 55) i have been overflowing with mats now as i don’t have any characters that i want to use except those 3 teams
@@2CANTCME counter argument, it takes little time to spend your daily battery. If someone isnt able to commit to the bare minimum to spend battery then that person isnt hooked enought and modifying the reward system around those players they could risk leaving their regulars withouth reasons to log in.
@@vexcroe True, but I don’t think everyone will have Miyabi. It is quite expensive and especially when starting out. Yet, it is a straight and narrow path when you just prioritize daily errands, and farm resources after battery replenishes, plus the coffee bonus. If I couldn’t play as much I could now (like when I started) I would follow that regiment. However, It does take longer to progress that way if I’m honest. Plus none of the weekly or Bi Weekly rewards rollover if you have not already earned them before the refresh, with the exception of some rewards in the Hollow zero and Lost Void task. I guess all of this is beyond his major issue though. It is not a matter of how, but more so the cost. At the moment, the only way to progress swiftly would be hours of gameplay… daily. Yet the idea of making progression easy to suit the casual player could also hurt the game. We could run into that issue where people start saying zzz is easy, and it could lose its value to the hardcore gamer. I think a middle ground is needed but not a complete shift. Otherwise, it’s kinda like you have to take what you can get until you are able to get more as time progresses. It seems fair to me but eh…everyone has their reasons. I did not start with other Hoyo games so that is probably why it’s hard for me to relate. I assumed all Gachas are like this.
The main issue ppl dont skip enough characters than run out of mats cause they pull every banner. And dalies on zzz take 30 secs its even faster than star rail i love it
Isn’t more cost efficient to just focus on one team to clear most of the content. And when you done with the first team focus on your second team. Instead of trying to level every character at once?
Yes, yes it is. Thats what i did when i started, and to add to that, only level characters to you want to commit to. My second regular S rank was Soldier 11, but i didnt liked soldier back then so i never builded despite lacking a third character for my pipper-Lucy team. So instead i focused my resources on the character i was using and wanted to use.
Yes also I don't see many people pointing this out, you don't need to LV up most of the characters past 50 or even 45, and we all know from 50-60 is a shit ton of materials, so you can save on mats and money by just knowing when to stop and just reading a characters kit to see what talents need to be leveled up
You see, that would be fitting for most content. But ultimately that's not something you can really use in ZZZ's defense. Because of both Shiyu Defense needing focus on two teams, and now deadly assault requiring you to bring an almighty 3 teams. Just sort of compounds the issue whenever the end game content requires a lot of character investments. At least 3 different DPS'es for the new deadly assaults.
I disagree that the dps characters in this game play the same, some characters play similarly to certain other characters like Zhu yuan and Harumasa, or Corrin and Anton but even then they still ain't a complete 1 to 1 even more so when you factor in team comps, different elements/character types could be cool but I'd much rather they focus on the specific kits/playstyles, like I don't think it matters that much what stat they scale off of or whatever its more so how they actually play and feel in combat you know? Other than that I pretty much agree with everything else you said.
Aight here’s a genuine tip for all the new players coming in from 1.4 - Focus on one team PERIOD, do your research on what team does what then build upon them. If you level up more characters than one team at the start then you’ll end up like this guy from the video and spread your resources too thinly - Level your character only up to 55. Yes you don’t need to get them to 60 it’s a huge bait for a very little payoff early into the game - Don’t let your energy overcapped, as soon as you’re introduced to the farming and the daily system, use them! - Prioritizing getting your characters up (Levels, skills, Core skills) over disk drive - Don’t know what to level up? Use the in game recommendation feature, it’s genuinely better than other games
i have over 9 lvl 60 characters and they are good enough to get shiyu and all that cleared with out spending a dime on resources. my disc might make people cringe but they get the job done and i started with only 13 days left on Zhu's banner you aren't a causal you just have to be a slacker if you having a problem building characters
i agree even though i can tell a lot of effort went into this patch, i still find myself wanting to quit because the game still feels like a drag at times when playing events and farming for characters and that’s all you really can do…
I think it's either because you are catching up? Most of my main rosters are now built (3 teams and some flex characters) and prior to 1.4, I am just using my stamina to stock for mats that I would be using for future characters. 1.4 dropped, all new characters are maxed out on skills and levels. If you are playing since the beginning and still are farming for most characters then you might have spread out most of your resources.
@ i have a full roster f2p full clear shiyu since launch and 9 starred deadly assault. i said im building characters becuz i have nothing else to do. and its ez for me to quit becuz i spent no money.
@@ramsical then I guess we just have different perspective in this. For me, I wanna clear everything on the asap since the lesser the content I have to do, the better since I can just logout. Also, this is the case for any gacha, not only ZZZ. We will hit a roadblock in which we don't have anything to do. Especially if you are a day 1 player like me, all of our contents should already be done by now and the only thing we can do is wait for reset, events (which can mostly be done in one go), or push our accounts on the tower which should be easy. But I get what you mean, if you didn't pay anything in the first place then you can just quit and nothing is wasted since your only investment is time. 😄 Anyways, have a nice day brother.
@@pejahmein2301 i see your point and i was having fun in the beginning, but then noticed i was finding endgame boring while still having fun in my other gachas, but i’ll see what they do with astra yao rlly love her design. have a good one bro
Honestly i dont feel the frist one. I started on the Jane part of 1.1 and the only time that i struggled to get my characters where i needed them was on my first month and half. After Caesar i never struggled to mantain my characters or have my new characters content ready. Bunice, Yanagi and Miyabi were all ready for action since the first day. The worst mystake you can make is thinking you NEED to level everything up, you dont. You have an order of priorieties and some skills are essential to get at max level (depending on the characters) while others you can leave it at 7 and call it day for a while. NOW i've started to complete the F pasives for the characters im using and leveling up other skills. I dont even need to do that because my team as they were could 3 star Deadly Assault withouth much issue, i just want to see how hard i can push them. And it takes at most 30 minutes a day to use all your battery, if someone is that busy that cant spare 30 minutes a day then that person has bigger priorities than farming in a gacha game.
ZZZ glazers on FULL display here. Listen, I like ZZZ too. But you can't just dismiss his points by saying "Oh, you shouldn't let your stamina overcap" is just like.. So you can't take a break in this game now? You NEED to log in Every. Single. Day? Doesn't matter if it takes only like, 5 minutes, NEEDING to log in every single day to be able to comfortably get your team end-game ready is a job. Not enjoyment. I've been playing since Caesar's launch, every single day, and it feels like I'm spending 80% of my energy just for leveling up units for deadly assault.
@@2CANTCME for the life of me i cant understand how it's cope to say that, in the game where majority of the content is based around building a character, it should take some time to actually build a character. If you make "endgame content" beatable by characters who are half built, people who actually spend timr playing the game do it for nothing. You can play the game at your own pace but don't bitch about it taking time to play the game. I don't expect my lvl 1 character in elden ring to one shot everything through the game either
@zoranzoran2541 this is not elden ring this is a gacha game, the main focus of the game is not leveling. It's beating the endgame content and being able to use the new character you just pulled. So if it takes you logging in 25 - 30 days to events level a character up to just be able to use them in the current content, this is not including gear grind. It's just bad design stop coping and saying to just play the game, there is a much higher time investment with leveling characters in this game when compared to both hsr and genshin which is around 15 days to level a character. Please get the hoyo meat out of your throat i beg
I agree with most of your takes however, i do have an issue with your first one, i think getting your characters to max lv does take a long time BUT you don't even need to have your characters maxed, atp you only need 2 teams, which means two dps and then two stuns or a support, or whatever, as for me, i was running with two dps at lv 55 and then my stun and support both at lv 40, you don't need to max out characters to be able to clear the content in the game, and yes btw my supports and my stuns are still not even lv 50 they're at 45, and also not every afent needs you to upgrade their talents, take jane doe for example, all you need to do is lv her up, her weapon then disk drives, like any character and then just her passive talent thing, my jane is literally running with lv1 talents all across the board bc those don't help her dps in the slightest, and then take nicole, who also only needs the passive talent thing to lv up, the only problem that comes with having your agents low lv like this tho is that they're barely gonna have any hp, my stuns have like 7-9k hp, and that's the only problem I've been having bc if i miss a Dodge then I'm cooked, but i think that's fine since it might make you want to get better at dodging and stuff, also another thing u might want to add, my energy for the over cap is maxed out, and yet I'm already pre farming for the new characters, getting exp book, getting the ascension materials, getting the talent lv ups, all while just waiting for them to come out, i managed to max out my miyabi on day one because i was already pre farming before she came out BECAUSE i don't waste my materials leveling up characters past what they need to be, also one other thing i wanna point out, my stun units are running one maxed lv disk, which is the impact one, everything else is lv1 so i just think people need to read what a character does, and see that not everything needs to be leveled up, so if u have like talent's leveled up for jane doe like her basic and her ult than that's just on you for wasting materials
People are the comments too aggro on this guy. Yeah he could have not let it cap, or prefarm. Both of those require that you play the game daily, which does have it advantages. Even then I do feel the game needs a way for you to build character at a slower rate outside of stamina. For those that want to go that route. That way players can use stamina to speed it up or grind it out. If they do grind it out which would take a pretty long time to do and end up with nothing to do after till next patch then thats on them. The stamina system just makes it so you login for like 5 min and log back off. There should be a way to play long or short term.
If u let ur energy overcap u are just lazy and shouldn't complain. I have 15 lvl 60 agent with 15 lvl 60 w-engine, I have 6 with maxed skills the lowest skill lvl from the remaining agents is 9.I have 4 at D, 5 at E and 6 at F Cpassive. But i have kind all the boss mats farmed for them. I buy only monthly poly pass and thats all i've spent on the game.(I play from day1 and just log in to do all the daily and weekly things.)
Don't you feel as tho you're now invalidating and gatekeeping the majority of players that play this game by saying there lazy for the over cap, there is a reason this is in the game it's a feature that the core audience of this game wanted bc they don't play everyday and that is the audience they need to cater towards to make the game grow more
@@2CANTCME like to spend all your battery takes no more then 10 minutes even at max 240 then u are done then to maximaze your resources u do the weekly stuff anyday in the week you are free i dunno how much person can get busy in a day to not be able to spend 10 minutes to spend most if not all of their battery imo u just cant compare a starting player or returning player that is not at end game to players that kept playing i maxed my miyabi in 1 hour not even prefarming anything
@@2CANTCME Ok literally nothing you have said makes any sense whatsoever. Why would Homoverse cater towards people who play once in a blue moon? Most people who let the game cap out at 2400 resin do not play the game regularly enough and most likely don't spend a single dollar on it, makes zero sense to cater to them. You are complaining that you need to play the game to progress through it, it's such an awful mindset to have while playing any game. It doesn't even take 10 minutes to finish your dailies, if you only spend resin it takes no more then 5 minutes. If you can't play the game for more then 5 minutes a day and still complain how your characters can't progress you are literally braindead. If you lower the bar too low you literally punish people who actually want to play the bloody game, so that people who want everything handed to them on a plate can enjoy it.
@@2CANTCME If u have played the game before it takes around 5-6min to get the basic things done daily, to do 1 void for weekly rewards 15min thats around 1h - 10h 10min weekly if u count the coffee breaks,.Thats all u need to get ur agents to max lvl with max wengine 1h weekly. With the time u put in this video complaining u would have done ur dailes and weekly stuff in ZZZ for 3 weeks. But go on keep complaining its kinda funny when THE tourist trying to be the tour-guide. p.s: Happy New Year.
@@2CANTCME When you finish your daily routine with Miyabi, it only takes 5 seconds to consume 60 batteries. If you don't want to log in, a third of the battery can be stored. It's just that you need to plan your resources better.
Dude, it takes literally 5 minutes to spend your daily energy and if you aren’t wasting resources maxing out every single character, the game literally throws thousands of resources at you from events and quests to use on other characters. This is just you not planning properly. I have had enough resources to fully max new characters, because I’ve been working on 2-3 solid teams. 4 star damage dealers is also dumb. They would be immediately outclassed by any S rank. They’re better off mostly being supports. None of the games have 4 star/A rank main DPS. They’re always sub DPS or supports. This game only has 3 team members. There is no room for a sub DPS.
besides some of the combat being crazy hard for some of us who dont have all day to become better at the game i think the big thing that needs addressed is more mats for the energy we spend at this point in the game its pretty bad esp the 3 weekly trys
going a bit deeper into my issue with some of the combat is, some enemies like Thanatos or the dark version of jane is just ridiculous on how the zip around and are at some times impossible to dodge. im not the best player in the world but im not the worst these 2 enemies need toned down because not all of us enjoy being a sweat. and it kills the enjoyment of a moderate challenge and makes it feel like fuck it.
@@arcangel6384 uuuhmm, nah..no nah, Jane doesn't need to be tuned down, it's not even about being a sweat as much as it is adapting. How have you not figured out her moves yet? Shadow Jane has been out for a while man. I'm not the best gamer either, neither do i sit up and play it all day, but i see people complain about this boss when she's not that difficult to beat, just dodge. Thanatos isn't difficult either, are you only using A ranks?
I can agree a bit with the events feeling a bit lacking, but everything else... just sounds like it's not the game for you, honestly. You seem to have a lot of issues with the core functionality of the game.
you know there is an entire video breakdown about how zenless zone zero is by far the easiest of Hoyo versus Gacha games to grind? This game is substantially quicker at give or take 150 hours of battery for character max while Honkai is a little over 200 hours and Genshin impact is over 300.
I know people dont like improving paid parts of these games. But i think they should improve the BP. ZZZ has by far the worst and most useless BP of the hoyo games. Half the nodes in the BP are for bangboo, and the weapons are pretty shit. I actually think gearing and leveling gear in this game is far better than the other games. You can dismantle leveled drives, something HSR doesn't let you do. This means you can craft 10x more gear than HSR. And when you dismantle an S rank drive, you get some xp and the crafting material. Whereas HSR only gives you the crafting material. I almost never run out of drive disk XP in this game it feels far better than their other games.
To all new players who is thinking of starting zzz, if you put in 5 mins to do your dailies and not let your energy overfill you will get significant progress. Drip marketing on social media, let's you prefarm weeks in advance. Tldr; you get what you put in. Tbh this guy didn't put much in.
Seriously, the guy said in the video he's had his backup battery at 2400. You literally need exactly 30 whole days of overcapping to reach that value. The charge rate for overcapping is 1/3 as efficient as normal charge rate. Why should people expect to build day one characters when they don't play the game?
@@zeroconductionWait really? I didn’t know the charge rate was slower 😂
The events in this game are fine. We’re taking pictures in HSR right now. A Leaderboard would be a terrible idea. Look who’s at the top the whale.
So far i have no problem on building characters
Didnt expect to get Caesar and Burnice both but manage to build them within 1 patch/before the next patch
I already pre-farm for Burnice materials
Didn't expect to get Yanagi and Lighter both
Already pre-farmed for Yanagi so i max her easily while it took 2 weeks to completely build lighter because im also farming Yanagi's disk...i didn't expected to get lighter so that was not planned
I prefarmed for Miyabi so already maxed her level and Signature engine etc. on day 1
Got lucky to manage to build her on day 1 too
Only 30 minutes of disk farming manage to complete 4 piece of the new disk
I used up 20+ Ether battery
So my Miyabi have 80% crit rate and 145% crit damage on day 1so i stopped farming disk
So now im pre-farming for Evelyn
More easy to pre-farm compared to Miyabi because Evelyn's bosses materials is already available
I can easily max her on day 1 only the disk i need to farm but i only need 3 disk slot to fill
The tech to get the new weekly boss materials is to buy the box thing that you can buy on outpost the box can contain weekly boss material that you can choose
So i saved a few boxes so when Miyabi's new weekly boss came out on the patch release
I just choose the new weekly boss materials enough to get E core unlocked so i used stamina to unlock the F core
If you let your energy overcap than you're clearly not in a position to complain about resources. Cant expect to build your characters if you dont put in the daily effort, this is literally the base mechanic of every gacha. So this first complaint is a problem you created yourself, it's not a game issue.
Yeah, I honestly think they don't need to change character building. I don't think someone who barely plays should be able to level up the same as someone who grinds for hours.
This is an issue for the majority of the base not sweaty players that play every day for hours, there is a reason they add the over cap in the first place not for you but for people that can't play every day. And for the game to grow more they need to accommodate that player more
@@ethericdezigns1528it’s not even hours anymore, u login select the mats you wanna farm, then use miyabi and cleared it in like 20 seconds,
And all the farming material are 100 energy each, so you only need to do this twice a day to maximize your energy level (3 times if were counting coffee)
Also on a side note from someone who have built 3 teams (9 characters) to level 55 (yes you definitely should stop at 55) i have been overflowing with mats now as i don’t have any characters that i want to use except those 3 teams
@@2CANTCME counter argument, it takes little time to spend your daily battery. If someone isnt able to commit to the bare minimum to spend battery then that person isnt hooked enought and modifying the reward system around those players they could risk leaving their regulars withouth reasons to log in.
@@vexcroe True, but I don’t think everyone will have Miyabi. It is quite expensive and especially when starting out. Yet, it is a straight and narrow path when you just prioritize daily errands, and farm resources after battery replenishes, plus the coffee bonus.
If I couldn’t play as much I could now (like when I started) I would follow that regiment. However, It does take longer to progress that way if I’m honest.
Plus none of the weekly or Bi Weekly rewards rollover if you have not already earned them before the refresh, with the exception of some rewards in the Hollow zero and Lost Void task.
I guess all of this is beyond his major issue though. It is not a matter of how, but more so the cost. At the moment, the only way to progress swiftly would be hours of gameplay… daily.
Yet the idea of making progression easy to suit the casual player could also hurt the game. We could run into that issue where people start saying zzz is easy, and it could lose its value to the hardcore gamer.
I think a middle ground is needed but not a complete shift. Otherwise, it’s kinda like you have to take what you can get until you are able to get more as time progresses. It seems fair to me but eh…everyone has their reasons. I did not start with other Hoyo games so that is probably why it’s hard for me to relate. I assumed all Gachas are like this.
The main issue ppl dont skip enough characters than run out of mats cause they pull every banner. And dalies on zzz take 30 secs its even faster than star rail i love it
I was lucky to get miyabi with her w-engine and her 1st mindscape
got Harumasa his w-engine too. but there goes all my f2p currency I got from start
But you practically set for a long time hehe
@CocoYT_Sub yeah trying to get mindscape two before she's gone xD
Isn’t more cost efficient to just focus on one team to clear most of the content. And when you done with the first team focus on your second team. Instead of trying to level every character at once?
Yes, yes it is. Thats what i did when i started, and to add to that, only level characters to you want to commit to. My second regular S rank was Soldier 11, but i didnt liked soldier back then so i never builded despite lacking a third character for my pipper-Lucy team. So instead i focused my resources on the character i was using and wanted to use.
Yes also I don't see many people pointing this out, you don't need to LV up most of the characters past 50 or even 45, and we all know from 50-60 is a shit ton of materials, so you can save on mats and money by just knowing when to stop and just reading a characters kit to see what talents need to be leveled up
this is the only way to do it, but are these guys new to "gacha games"
You see, that would be fitting for most content. But ultimately that's not something you can really use in ZZZ's defense. Because of both Shiyu Defense needing focus on two teams, and now deadly assault requiring you to bring an almighty 3 teams. Just sort of compounds the issue whenever the end game content requires a lot of character investments. At least 3 different DPS'es for the new deadly assaults.
what are you even talking about, youre not supposed to fully build a character in 1 day if youre not preparing resources, what sense would that make?
I already knew CC will have a content about Zzz about a problem they crated
I disagree that the dps characters in this game play the same, some characters play similarly to certain other characters like Zhu yuan and Harumasa, or Corrin and Anton but even then they still ain't a complete 1 to 1 even more so when you factor in team comps, different elements/character types could be cool but I'd much rather they focus on the specific kits/playstyles, like I don't think it matters that much what stat they scale off of or whatever its more so how they actually play and feel in combat you know? Other than that I pretty much agree with everything else you said.
Aight here’s a genuine tip for all the new players coming in from 1.4
- Focus on one team PERIOD, do your research on what team does what then build upon them.
If you level up more characters than one team at the start then you’ll end up like this guy from the video and spread your resources too thinly
- Level your character only up to 55. Yes you don’t need to get them to 60 it’s a huge bait for a very little payoff early into the game
- Don’t let your energy overcapped, as soon as you’re introduced to the farming and the daily system, use them!
- Prioritizing getting your characters up (Levels, skills, Core skills) over disk drive
- Don’t know what to level up? Use the in game recommendation feature, it’s genuinely better than other games
i have over 9 lvl 60 characters and they are good enough to get shiyu and all that cleared with out spending a dime on resources. my disc might make people cringe but they get the job done and i started with only 13 days left on Zhu's banner
you aren't a causal you just have to be a slacker if you having a problem building characters
I can also clear all content with my dog water builds, this does not mean there is not a resource problem in this game
i agree even though i can tell a lot of effort went into this patch, i still find myself wanting to quit because the game still feels like a drag at times when playing events and farming for characters and that’s all you really can do…
I think it's either because you are catching up? Most of my main rosters are now built (3 teams and some flex characters) and prior to 1.4, I am just using my stamina to stock for mats that I would be using for future characters. 1.4 dropped, all new characters are maxed out on skills and levels.
If you are playing since the beginning and still are farming for most characters then you might have spread out most of your resources.
@@pejahmein2301same, I started playing since the beginning, only buy monthly and battle pass, and my account now have 10 already built characters
@ i have a full roster f2p full clear shiyu since launch and 9 starred deadly assault. i said im building characters becuz i have nothing else to do. and its ez for me to quit becuz i spent no money.
@@ramsical then I guess we just have different perspective in this. For me, I wanna clear everything on the asap since the lesser the content I have to do, the better since I can just logout.
Also, this is the case for any gacha, not only ZZZ. We will hit a roadblock in which we don't have anything to do. Especially if you are a day 1 player like me, all of our contents should already be done by now and the only thing we can do is wait for reset, events (which can mostly be done in one go), or push our accounts on the tower which should be easy.
But I get what you mean, if you didn't pay anything in the first place then you can just quit and nothing is wasted since your only investment is time. 😄
Anyways, have a nice day brother.
@@pejahmein2301 i see your point and i was having fun in the beginning, but then noticed i was finding endgame boring while still having fun in my other gachas, but i’ll see what they do with astra yao rlly love her design. have a good one bro
I do agree there's way too many mats to farm just to level 1 character
Honestly i dont feel the frist one. I started on the Jane part of 1.1 and the only time that i struggled to get my characters where i needed them was on my first month and half. After Caesar i never struggled to mantain my characters or have my new characters content ready. Bunice, Yanagi and Miyabi were all ready for action since the first day.
The worst mystake you can make is thinking you NEED to level everything up, you dont. You have an order of priorieties and some skills are essential to get at max level (depending on the characters) while others you can leave it at 7 and call it day for a while.
NOW i've started to complete the F pasives for the characters im using and leveling up other skills. I dont even need to do that because my team as they were could 3 star Deadly Assault withouth much issue, i just want to see how hard i can push them.
And it takes at most 30 minutes a day to use all your battery, if someone is that busy that cant spare 30 minutes a day then that person has bigger priorities than farming in a gacha game.
I paid about 30 bucks to build two characters
How about we get a "let the game play/farm itself" button~
ZZZ glazers on FULL display here. Listen, I like ZZZ too. But you can't just dismiss his points by saying "Oh, you shouldn't let your stamina overcap" is just like.. So you can't take a break in this game now? You NEED to log in Every. Single. Day? Doesn't matter if it takes only like, 5 minutes, NEEDING to log in every single day to be able to comfortably get your team end-game ready is a job. Not enjoyment. I've been playing since Caesar's launch, every single day, and it feels like I'm spending 80% of my energy just for leveling up units for deadly assault.
Toxic positivity a big problem in the gacha community unfortunately. Every criticism is met with "Uhm ackshually 🤓☝️"
You don't need to play endgame content if it stress you out that much
Bro thanks for being so based it's been a sea of cope LMAO
@@2CANTCME for the life of me i cant understand how it's cope to say that, in the game where majority of the content is based around building a character, it should take some time to actually build a character.
If you make "endgame content" beatable by characters who are half built, people who actually spend timr playing the game do it for nothing.
You can play the game at your own pace but don't bitch about it taking time to play the game.
I don't expect my lvl 1 character in elden ring to one shot everything through the game either
@zoranzoran2541 this is not elden ring this is a gacha game, the main focus of the game is not leveling. It's beating the endgame content and being able to use the new character you just pulled. So if it takes you logging in 25 - 30 days to events level a character up to just be able to use them in the current content, this is not including gear grind. It's just bad design stop coping and saying to just play the game, there is a much higher time investment with leveling characters in this game when compared to both hsr and genshin which is around 15 days to level a character. Please get the hoyo meat out of your throat i beg
I agree with most of your takes however, i do have an issue with your first one, i think getting your characters to max lv does take a long time BUT you don't even need to have your characters maxed, atp you only need 2 teams, which means two dps and then two stuns or a support, or whatever, as for me, i was running with two dps at lv 55 and then my stun and support both at lv 40, you don't need to max out characters to be able to clear the content in the game, and yes btw my supports and my stuns are still not even lv 50 they're at 45, and also not every afent needs you to upgrade their talents, take jane doe for example, all you need to do is lv her up, her weapon then disk drives, like any character and then just her passive talent thing, my jane is literally running with lv1 talents all across the board bc those don't help her dps in the slightest, and then take nicole, who also only needs the passive talent thing to lv up, the only problem that comes with having your agents low lv like this tho is that they're barely gonna have any hp, my stuns have like 7-9k hp, and that's the only problem I've been having bc if i miss a Dodge then I'm cooked, but i think that's fine since it might make you want to get better at dodging and stuff, also another thing u might want to add, my energy for the over cap is maxed out, and yet I'm already pre farming for the new characters, getting exp book, getting the ascension materials, getting the talent lv ups, all while just waiting for them to come out, i managed to max out my miyabi on day one because i was already pre farming before she came out BECAUSE i don't waste my materials leveling up characters past what they need to be, also one other thing i wanna point out, my stun units are running one maxed lv disk, which is the impact one, everything else is lv1 so i just think people need to read what a character does, and see that not everything needs to be leveled up, so if u have like talent's leveled up for jane doe like her basic and her ult than that's just on you for wasting materials
People are the comments too aggro on this guy. Yeah he could have not let it cap, or prefarm. Both of those require that you play the game daily, which does have it advantages. Even then I do feel the game needs a way for you to build character at a slower rate outside of stamina. For those that want to go that route. That way players can use stamina to speed it up or grind it out. If they do grind it out which would take a pretty long time to do and end up with nothing to do after till next patch then thats on them. The stamina system just makes it so you login for like 5 min and log back off. There should be a way to play long or short term.
The whole point of playing the game is leveling up characters... what are you going to do if you're not leveling up your characters...
Shit take
If u let ur energy overcap u are just lazy and shouldn't complain. I have 15 lvl 60 agent with 15 lvl 60 w-engine, I have 6 with maxed skills the lowest skill lvl from the remaining agents is 9.I have 4 at D, 5 at E and 6 at F Cpassive. But i have kind all the boss mats farmed for them. I buy only monthly poly pass and thats all i've spent on the game.(I play from day1 and just log in to do all the daily and weekly things.)
Don't you feel as tho you're now invalidating and gatekeeping the majority of players that play this game by saying there lazy for the over cap, there is a reason this is in the game it's a feature that the core audience of this game wanted bc they don't play everyday and that is the audience they need to cater towards to make the game grow more
@@2CANTCME like to spend all your battery takes no more then 10 minutes even at max 240 then u are done then to maximaze your resources u do the weekly stuff anyday in the week you are free i dunno how much person can get busy in a day to not be able to spend 10 minutes to spend most if not all of their battery imo u just cant compare a starting player or returning player that is not at end game to players that kept playing i maxed my miyabi in 1 hour not even prefarming anything
@@2CANTCME Ok literally nothing you have said makes any sense whatsoever. Why would Homoverse cater towards people who play once in a blue moon? Most people who let the game cap out at 2400 resin do not play the game regularly enough and most likely don't spend a single dollar on it, makes zero sense to cater to them.
You are complaining that you need to play the game to progress through it, it's such an awful mindset to have while playing any game. It doesn't even take 10 minutes to finish your dailies, if you only spend resin it takes no more then 5 minutes. If you can't play the game for more then 5 minutes a day and still complain how your characters can't progress you are literally braindead.
If you lower the bar too low you literally punish people who actually want to play the bloody game, so that people who want everything handed to them on a plate can enjoy it.
@@2CANTCME If u have played the game before it takes around 5-6min to get the basic things done daily, to do 1 void for weekly rewards 15min thats around 1h - 10h 10min weekly if u count the coffee breaks,.Thats all u need to get ur agents to max lvl with max wengine 1h weekly. With the time u put in this video complaining u would have done ur dailes and weekly stuff in ZZZ for 3 weeks. But go on keep complaining its kinda funny when THE tourist trying to be the tour-guide.
p.s: Happy New Year.
@@2CANTCME When you finish your daily routine with Miyabi, it only takes 5 seconds to consume 60 batteries. If you don't want to log in, a third of the battery can be stored. It's just that you need to plan your resources better.
I'll be fair your 100,000,000% right but I haven't had this issue personally probably because I prefarm them both after I had a dream lol
the only point i agree with is the fact that they need more a ranks a lot of your complaints are just complaints with the gatcha system in general
Bro talks faster than Destiny 😂
zzz is Honkai impact 2.0 so its basically the same sytem from like 6 years ago when i played honkai XD
But in fact, the difference between them is so large that there are at least two generations apart.
Dude, it takes literally 5 minutes to spend your daily energy and if you aren’t wasting resources maxing out every single character, the game literally throws thousands of resources at you from events and quests to use on other characters. This is just you not planning properly.
I have had enough resources to fully max new characters, because I’ve been working on 2-3 solid teams.
4 star damage dealers is also dumb. They would be immediately outclassed by any S rank. They’re better off mostly being supports. None of the games have 4 star/A rank main DPS. They’re always sub DPS or supports. This game only has 3 team members. There is no room for a sub DPS.
burh ur character building is dogwater
Why does it matter when I can clear all content
besides some of the combat being crazy hard for some of us who dont have all day to become better at the game i think the big thing that needs addressed is more mats for the energy we spend at this point in the game its pretty bad esp the 3 weekly trys
going a bit deeper into my issue with some of the combat is, some enemies like Thanatos or the dark version of jane is just ridiculous on how the zip around and are at some times impossible to dodge. im not the best player in the world but im not the worst these 2 enemies need toned down because not all of us enjoy being a sweat. and it kills the enjoyment of a moderate challenge and makes it feel like fuck it.
@@arcangel6384 uuuhmm, nah..no nah, Jane doesn't need to be tuned down, it's not even about being a sweat as much as it is adapting. How have you not figured out her moves yet? Shadow Jane has been out for a while man. I'm not the best gamer either, neither do i sit up and play it all day, but i see people complain about this boss when she's not that difficult to beat, just dodge. Thanatos isn't difficult either, are you only using A ranks?
@@joshuajackson5203 I think your better than average probably, I don't have any issues with them either even if I did Caeser exist maybe I'm based?
if its crazy hard just play on easier diff, theres the solution for you. welcome
@@arcangel6384 here is a tip for jane a thanatos.... spam shift and right click
I can agree a bit with the events feeling a bit lacking, but everything else... just sounds like it's not the game for you, honestly. You seem to have a lot of issues with the core functionality of the game.
This is a skill issue
you know there is an entire video breakdown about how zenless zone zero is by far the easiest of Hoyo versus Gacha games to grind? This game is substantially quicker at give or take 150 hours of battery for character max while Honkai is a little over 200 hours and Genshin impact is over 300.
Yea, I feel like zzz character building is too slow and sluggish compared to others 😢 especially as a new/casual player
I know people dont like improving paid parts of these games. But i think they should improve the BP. ZZZ has by far the worst and most useless BP of the hoyo games. Half the nodes in the BP are for bangboo, and the weapons are pretty shit.
I actually think gearing and leveling gear in this game is far better than the other games. You can dismantle leveled drives, something HSR doesn't let you do. This means you can craft 10x more gear than HSR. And when you dismantle an S rank drive, you get some xp and the crafting material. Whereas HSR only gives you the crafting material. I almost never run out of drive disk XP in this game it feels far better than their other games.
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