I'm glad to say I didn't learn a single new thing watching this video. Yet I watched every minute of it, watching your presentation of the information and tool use, general knowledge in shaping and drying, it's always a pleasure to watch you work Sam, thank you for sharing this second installment with us, and awaiting the third! Yuval.
Wanted to say thanks for the info it helps alot. I have been building furniture for 20 yrs and have started to do some wood turning I enjoy it but it is a whole new skill set for me. Today I watched your video on cutting logs for bowls and cut some of my own.thanks for the great content. Oh ya love your dog my wife is a dog groomer we have two and they are part of the family.thanks again from the Pacific Northwest
Good tip on leaving the spigot bit larger on green wood. I learned that one the hard way. ;-( It looks like one should wear rain gear when turning such wet wood. LOL! Well done video Sam...lots of very useful info. I love watching the beautiful streamers flying when turning green wood. Fun stuff!
Hi Sam, l rough turned three bowls this morning using a worm screw with my Nova SN2 Chuck. The wood is from a backyard Maple tree l cut down in March that was just getting too big as close as it was to the house. I had these three blanks in plastic bags for several days. I had cut them on my bandsaw but ran out of energy before all were rough turned. They had started getting moldy and were still sopping wet. I hang old shower curtain liners near my lathe to contain the spray since my shop is in the basement. End up with puddles on floor, oh well, better than all over my other tools. I use T9 on the ways when finished wet turning. Speaking of mold, l coat the outside of the rough turnings with Anchorseal and let dry, no mold. When l tried the shavings method, just get really moldy. I agree with Wayne's comment, l turn away all bark from the tenon before reversing to hollow out the inside. I have thought about a coring system since hollowing large bowls takes me a long time and results in lots of shavings to clean up. At least a third of time l am "turning" is spent cleaning. Maybe the weather will get better soon and l can go fishing.
I have thought about a shower curtain. I would really like to take a lathe outside when turning wet wood. I have many good memories of fishing in Ohio. I have not had good catfish since Ohio. The stuff you buy in the store (farm raised) is bad. Catch a big mouth bass for me. Sam
Wow. You wore that glove in the first one of your videos that I watched- rough turning a crab apple bowl. I learned a lot from that video. Thanks, James
Another wonderful video Sam. I have that P&N bottoming bowl gouge also. The idea is to have that steep angle to help ride the bevel, get smother cuts = less sanding.
Very good video!! It's always a lot better to watch a woodturning video that involves actual woodturning, instead of someone sitting in front of a pristine shop with their arms folded, talking for 10 min. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!
Well done Sam. I fecently turned some wet wood like this and spent longer cleaning up than turning. Creates a lot of mess with all the water but worth it in the end.
Good idea. I like the gloves are use because they are very loose fitting. I believe they would come off very easily if I got one caught in something. But I try very hard not to let that happen. Thanks Sam
Wood turning is in my blood Sam. My last name is Spindler which is German and came from a family of spindle makers. That dates back to using foot powered spring board lathes. If you have never used one its remarkable how well they work. I made one in high school and made a few smaller objects with it many years ago, but now I will never give up my 20" short bed Woodfast!! Thanks for the videos Sam! Tom from Northern Minnesota.
Thanks for sharing, being able to look over your shoulder as a beginner is priceless. You’ve earned a subscriber and if I were in Wyoming I’d join the club. My only question is what is the switch setup you have on that lathe? Is there a reason for it?
An awl sure beats nails and screws, but I went ouch went you hit the awl with your palm. Probably because my wife has RA and had a bone removed in each hand. Put a bird cage awl grind on it (4 sides flat) and you can just twist it in. Great tip with the spade bit.
Mike I am far too lazy to walk 8 feet to get a hammer. I prefer nerve damage and permanent disfigurement. It is the way we roll in Wyoming. It really didn't take much to make a mark in the bark. But the 4 sided grind sounds like a good idea. Will you be in Kansa City? Sam
Good morning Sam. I enjoy the video and the concept of log to bowl demonstration... A couple of questions if I may. First do you use a rule of thumb for drying time ie., a month per inch of wall thickness? Second a none turning question, my wife is wondering what steps you took to get to the stage with your videos and web site to begin to sell ads etc., I do have to ask these questions .. generally every time i get caught with another new tool. Any help would be appreciated, if you would rather not answer thats fine as well. Thanks Glen.
Drying time really depends on the moisture content and how big the bowl is. This bowl will take 5-6 months. But I usually let them sit far long---past when I can turn them. The point, I am in no hurry and always have something to work on. Now for the easy question, about the wife. 30-35 year ago my wife would walk in my shop and, wife eagle eye vision, pick out a tiny little tool I picked up. She would say, "where did you get this 3/32 drill bit? It wasn't here yesterday." After 30 years she has given up. My first defense 30 years ago was, "But honey, I could be a cocaine addict." She thought and figured I had a point. But that only worked for a little while. Now I say that and it is an understood joke. But on a serious note. I have never "messed around" on my wife, she always knows where I am-and we need the bowls. But we don't need the bowls so much, haha. OK .....it took quite a while to make my first UA-cam paycheck of $50. Selling or making money from turning is difficult. I have 2 websites and also sell on ETSY. ETSY is a good place to start. But many of my friends here in Worland start by selling pens and this doesn't take lots of skill or time. I have one or two videos on making money and a series on making videos that might help you. Let me know if you have trouble finding them. Sam
Sam, great work as always. You mentioned that when you put the bowl back on the lathe after drying for several months that the spigot will be oval. How do you mount the bowl to re-true your spigot?
You gain some insight from this video.... ua-cam.com/video/Vdn0PdySkh4/v-deo.html Basically I fix the bowl between a live center and a friction drive on the headstock. In this video (see the link) it shows how I do this. Just true up the spigot and put into your chuck jaws. Sam
Hi Sam, what gouge was used when you "scooped" out the bowl . You made it look easy. For me it's difficult. Was the gouge 5/8ths, was it a fingernail, was it a bowl gouge?
Yes this is a 5/8" bowl gouge. It is Oneway steel which has a cutting edge on both ends. These are a little pricey but excellent tools and you get the same cutting edge on both ends. Sam
I'm a new turner, turning about 5 months now. I have about ten bowls that I've turned rough from green wood all I've done is coated them with anchorseal all around, 2 coats then on the shelf. Will I have issues with cracking?
Tyler depends how humid your location is for one thing. I always seal my bowls and then put them in a box or bag with shavings. I am never in a big rush. Also it depends on the wood. I avoid some wood because they crack really bad-Russian olive for example. You also have to get the wall thickness just right when rough-turning. Too thick and the wood can't move easily and you will get splits. Too thin and when you finish the bowl, the walls may be too thin. Good luck. Sam
Just curious Sam, was it personal preference or did you have a particular reason for using a screw chuck instead of a face plate.? Love this series. Really good tip on keeping the tenon larger. I have a friend who is just getting started with lathe work and I recommended that he subscribe to your channel.
I always go to a screw chuck when I can. It is much faster. Especially if I am doing 10-15 bowls. It is very safe, just bring up the tailstock for support. I can do most of this operation with the tailstock. I seldom have the screw strip out. Almost never. But I do use faceplates at time. Thanks Sam
It is an old 14" bandsaw. 25 plus years... It originally came with a 3/4 hp motor but I put a 2 HP motor on it. I don't believe they make it anymore. Sam
Good point. Yes it sure could have been cored. I just chose not to in order to keep the video on track. I wanted to show the actual turning of the inside of the bowl. Sam
Depends.....How hard is the wood? You could attach a blank of softer wood on a faceplate BRFORE you cut it round on the bandsaw and make it round on the lathe. It can be done. If it were ash or hard maple, it would be much more difficult. Another option or approach would be to use an axe to cut off the corners. Or a chainsaw. If you do not have a chainsaw, I would recommend looking into an electric chainsaw. I have one and love it. I also have a Stihl with a 20 inch bar. Start with a smaller saw. The electric ones can be purchased for under $100 and are much safer. Then you can use the chainsaw to cut down the corners. Sam
Oh my god. I saw a news story where were releasing kangaroos in Wyoming. I saw that after your comment about the kangaroos. I hope that is a fake news story. I can't imagine what it would do such a stupid thing but then I've seen worse.Sam
I sometimes use music when I don't feel talking is necessary. But I do get your point. Some videos have NO explanation of what they are doing----just music. Sam
Here is why I put the music in. I reach a point in a video where I can add very little with a voiceover. I tend to talk too much. And I really don't want to leave a big silent void in some of the video. Sam
I'm glad to say I didn't learn a single new thing watching this video. Yet I watched every minute of it, watching your presentation of the information and tool use, general knowledge in shaping and drying, it's always a pleasure to watch you work Sam, thank you for sharing this second installment with us, and awaiting the third!
Yuval.
Thanks, The next (part 3) will is done and loaded and will be up soon.
Sam
Wanted to say thanks for the info it helps alot. I have been building furniture for 20 yrs and have started to do some wood turning I enjoy it but it is a whole new skill set for me. Today I watched your video on cutting logs for bowls and cut some of my own.thanks for the great content. Oh ya love your dog my wife is a dog groomer we have two and they are part of the family.thanks again from the Pacific Northwest
Sam, it is enjoyable to watch someone with very good tool control rough out a bowl. Thanks for sharing.
I am enjoying this series; you have a great way of sharing your knowledge. Thank you. Looking forward to the rest of the 4!
Sam, your videos are always informative. I learn something new each time. Thanks. Enjoyed talking to you at SWAT 2019.
Good tip on leaving the spigot bit larger on green wood. I learned that one the hard way. ;-(
It looks like one should wear rain gear when turning such wet wood. LOL! Well done video Sam...lots of very useful info. I love watching the beautiful streamers flying when turning green wood. Fun stuff!
Sam, this is great that your doing this four part series. Very helpful to me. Thank you
Thanks Sam, new to the craft and learning all the time
Hi Sam, l rough turned three bowls this morning using a worm screw with my Nova SN2 Chuck. The wood is from a backyard Maple tree l cut down in March that was just getting too big as close as it was to the house. I had these three blanks in plastic bags for several days. I had cut them on my bandsaw but ran out of energy before all were rough turned. They had started getting moldy and were still sopping wet. I hang old shower curtain liners near my lathe to contain the spray since my shop is in the basement. End up with puddles on floor, oh well, better than all over my other tools. I use T9 on the ways when finished wet turning. Speaking of mold, l coat the outside of the rough turnings with Anchorseal and let dry, no mold. When l tried the shavings method, just get really moldy.
I agree with Wayne's comment, l turn away all bark from the tenon before reversing to hollow out the inside.
I have thought about a coring system since hollowing large bowls takes me a long time and results in lots of shavings to clean up. At least a third of time l am "turning" is spent cleaning. Maybe the weather will get better soon and l can go fishing.
I have thought about a shower curtain. I would really like to take a lathe outside when turning wet wood. I have many good memories of fishing in Ohio. I have not had good catfish since Ohio. The stuff you buy in the store (farm raised) is bad. Catch a big mouth bass for me. Sam
Wow. You wore that glove in the first one of your videos that I watched- rough turning a crab apple bowl. I learned a lot from that video. Thanks, James
I buy those gloves at our local industrial supply place, a dozen at a time for about $8. They eventually fall apart. Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER oh. Nostalgia all the same. Thanks, James
Thanks Sam , When i have a issue went i am turning i can find some answers on your videos. And i am just getting started .
Another wonderful video Sam. I have that P&N bottoming bowl gouge also. The idea is to have that steep angle to help ride the bevel, get smother cuts = less sanding.
This series is really great..nice to watch you having fun turning again!
Barry
Thanks for watching. Sam
I enjoyed watching. I'm doing a lot of turning with dimensional wood and inching toward cutting fresh-cut wood. This is really helpful.
Very good video!! It's always a lot better to watch a woodturning video that involves actual woodturning, instead of someone sitting in front of a pristine shop with their arms folded, talking for 10 min. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!
Thanks, but I can "talk too much" with the best of them.
Sam
An excellent video Sam, once again full of very valuable information.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks very much.
Sam
Great next video in this series! I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
Thanks Sam! Thanks for sharing!
Take care, Dave
Well done Sam. I fecently turned some wet wood like this and spent longer cleaning up than turning. Creates a lot of mess with all the water but worth it in the end.
I love the wet wood. And yes what a mess....
Sam
looking forward to the next episode
Thanks Sam
Good Instructions Thanks.
I use a golf gloves when I turn. They work great because there tough and you retain most of your feel of touch.
Good idea. I like the gloves are use because they are very loose fitting. I believe they would come off very easily if I got one caught in something. But I try very hard not to let that happen. Thanks Sam
Wood turning is in my blood Sam. My last name is Spindler which is German and came from a family of spindle makers. That dates back to using foot powered spring board lathes. If you have never used one its remarkable how well they work. I made one in high school and made a few smaller objects with it many years ago, but now I will never give up my 20" short bed Woodfast!! Thanks for the videos Sam! Tom from Northern Minnesota.
Thanks for sharing, being able to look over your shoulder as a beginner is priceless. You’ve earned a subscriber and if I were in Wyoming I’d join the club. My only question is what is the switch setup you have on that lathe? Is there a reason for it?
An awl sure beats nails and screws, but I went ouch went you hit the awl with your palm. Probably because my wife has RA and had a bone removed in each hand. Put a bird cage awl grind on it (4 sides flat) and you can just twist it in.
Great tip with the spade bit.
Mike
I am far too lazy to walk 8 feet to get a hammer. I prefer nerve damage and permanent disfigurement. It is the way we roll in Wyoming. It really didn't take much to make a mark in the bark. But the 4 sided grind sounds like a good idea. Will you be in Kansa City? Sam
No, maybe Portland next year. Congrats on being selected as a demonstrator.
Thanks
Sam - when you place that bowl back on to work it again I am interested to see how you true up that tenon.Thanks for the videos.
Ditto, maybe a coles chuck???
Here is a play list of turning bowls. I am sure I cover that inb many of these videos:
ua-cam.com/play/PLL5-IWEcq6B-c9SsTu2NTNWKbsLl0bXvF.html
Sam
New to turning and wondering what things are considered when deciding on using a wood screw or face plate when turning a green bowl.🤔
Good morning Sam. I enjoy the video and the concept of log to bowl demonstration... A couple of questions if I may.
First do you use a rule of thumb for drying time ie., a month per inch of wall thickness?
Second a none turning question, my wife is wondering what steps you took to get to the stage with your videos and web site to begin to sell ads etc.,
I do have to ask these questions .. generally every time i get caught with another new tool. Any help would be appreciated, if you would rather not answer thats fine as well. Thanks Glen.
Drying time really depends on the moisture content and how big the bowl is. This bowl will take 5-6 months. But I usually let them sit far long---past when I can turn them. The point, I am in no hurry and always have something to work on.
Now for the easy question, about the wife. 30-35 year ago my wife would walk in my shop and, wife eagle eye vision, pick out a tiny little tool I picked up. She would say, "where did you get this 3/32 drill bit? It wasn't here yesterday." After 30 years she has given up. My first defense 30 years ago was, "But honey, I could be a cocaine addict." She thought and figured I had a point. But that only worked for a little while. Now I say that and it is an understood joke. But on a serious note. I have never "messed around" on my wife, she always knows where I am-and we need the bowls. But we don't need the bowls so much, haha.
OK .....it took quite a while to make my first UA-cam paycheck of $50. Selling or making money from turning is difficult. I have 2 websites and also sell on ETSY. ETSY is a good place to start. But many of my friends here in Worland start by selling pens and this doesn't take lots of skill or time. I have one or two videos on making money and a series on making videos that might help you. Let me know if you have trouble finding them.
Sam
thank you....
Wives apparently have the same eyesight and memory....
Sam, great work as always. You mentioned that when you put the bowl back on the lathe after drying for several months that the spigot will be oval. How do you mount the bowl to re-true your spigot?
You gain some insight from this video.... ua-cam.com/video/Vdn0PdySkh4/v-deo.html Basically I fix the bowl between a live center and a friction drive on the headstock. In this video (see the link) it shows how I do this. Just true up the spigot and put into your chuck jaws. Sam
Great series Sam, I look forward to the next one!
What happened to the beard man? Did I miss something?
Cheers, Dave
👍🍺
I just trimmed it up a bit....
Getting ready for summer. Sam
Ahhhh well I suppose I should let you off then! :)
Turning Works z
Hi Sam, what gouge was used when you "scooped" out the bowl . You made it look easy. For me it's difficult. Was the gouge 5/8ths, was it a fingernail, was it a bowl gouge?
Yes this is a 5/8" bowl gouge. It is Oneway steel which has a cutting edge on both ends. These are a little pricey but excellent tools and you get the same cutting edge on both ends. Sam
I'm a new turner, turning about 5 months now. I have about ten bowls that I've turned rough from green wood all I've done is coated them with anchorseal all around, 2 coats then on the shelf. Will I have issues with cracking?
Tyler depends how humid your location is for one thing. I always seal my bowls and then put them in a box or bag with shavings. I am never in a big rush. Also it depends on the wood. I avoid some wood because they crack really bad-Russian olive for example. You also have to get the wall thickness just right when rough-turning. Too thick and the wood can't move easily and you will get splits. Too thin and when you finish the bowl, the walls may be too thin. Good luck.
Sam
Just curious Sam, was it personal preference or did you have a particular reason for using a screw chuck instead of a face plate.? Love this series. Really good tip on keeping the tenon larger. I have a friend who is just getting started with lathe work and I recommended that he subscribe to your channel.
I always go to a screw chuck when I can. It is much faster. Especially if I am doing 10-15 bowls. It is very safe, just bring up the tailstock for support. I can do most of this operation with the tailstock. I seldom have the screw strip out. Almost never. But I do use faceplates at time. Thanks Sam
what are the specs on your bandsaw blade? width, thickness, teeth per inch?
I didn't see an effort to balance the piece before turning. Is that not usually necessary?
why a screw chuck and not a faceplate?
what are the things that look like electrical boxes on your tailstock and banjo?
It is a remote switch for my lathe. I added it. SAM
Hi Sam, what size band saw is that?
It is an old 14" bandsaw. 25 plus years... It originally came with a 3/4 hp motor but I put a 2 HP motor on it. I don't believe they make it anymore. Sam
Is there a reason for not coring the bowl first?
Good point. Yes it sure could have been cored. I just chose not to in order to keep the video on track. I wanted to show the actual turning of the inside of the bowl. Sam
nice
Sam you don't happen to know what kind of birch it is? I am not use to seeing birch with dark heartwood...
I just don't know. I was told it was birch. Yea and the bark doesn't look quite like birch......? Sam
I don't have a bandsaw, what do you recommend?
Depends.....How hard is the wood? You could attach a blank of softer wood on a faceplate BRFORE you cut it round on the bandsaw and make it round on the lathe. It can be done. If it were ash or hard maple, it would be much more difficult. Another option or approach would be to use an axe to cut off the corners. Or a chainsaw. If you do not have a chainsaw, I would recommend looking into an electric chainsaw. I have one and love it. I also have a Stihl with a 20 inch bar. Start with a smaller saw. The electric ones can be purchased for under $100 and are much safer. Then you can use the chainsaw to cut down the corners. Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER I do have a chainsaw! I’ll cut the corners! Thank you sir!
That's was honey locust I believe brother
ah nothing like turning wet wood
have you seen any kangaroos lately?
Yes, every morning. But we call them Deer.
#thegreatoutbackofwyoming
Sam
Oh my god. I saw a news story where were releasing kangaroos in Wyoming. I saw that after your comment about the kangaroos. I hope that is a fake news story. I can't imagine what it would do such a stupid thing but then I've seen worse.Sam
play music I leave. This is not a radio, you are not a DJ.
Actually I am a certified DJ in 27 states.......
Why do you people on U tube think you need to play music ? I like to choose my music. Now I want to see a video not listen to music.
I sometimes use music when I don't feel talking is necessary. But I do get your point. Some videos have NO explanation of what they are doing----just music.
Sam
Well, I love your channel but I hate the music. If I wanted to listen to music I would turn the radio on. So with that said...see ya.
Here is why I put the music in. I reach a point in a video where I can add very little with a voiceover. I tend to talk too much. And I really don't want to leave a big silent void in some of the video. Sam