Wal Mart Equip Hammock With Mosquito Net FAIL- Second Time a Charm?
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- A Second look after a Major Fail of the Equip Hammock With Mosquito Net. This is the second one I have owned as the first had failed. I look at the causes and possible some cures for this failure.
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Nice video Lee.... A suggestion... Why not remove and re-tie the end ropes? I did that to mine and it moved the pivot point about 10 inches up the suspension.... THAT would move the possible turn over point farther up the line. It made all the difference in the world to mine. That ridgeline mod I did makes this hammock a very nice hammock as it gave me more sag, lowering the center of gravity, and opened up the sides a lot allowing that angled lay. I also attach the netting pull outs at the end of this ridgeline where it meets the "outer" ends of the end ropes and alleviated the possibility of overstressing the netting. The net will sit an inch or so lower but this hammock has tons of headroom. As to the angled lie... Toss that pad and use an underquilt/blanket. I stopped using a pad a long time ago and just sleep in the hammock with nothing under me inside.. I get a very flat lay and a comfortable night.... I have to say that I love mine and actually have a nice Hennessy and prefer this to the Hennessy after my mods.Great video and thanks for the plug...
I was glad too. I love those mods!!! I kept thing about your suggestion about going with an underquilt/blanket the whole time I was tossing and turning!!! I was shocked at how flat of a lay I got. As I kind of mentioned, at one point I woke up for a second because I was laying so flat that I thought I was on the ground. I actually opened the net and felt around outside to make sure that I was not on the ground LOL
I will most likely do that retie. On this video I wanted to stay as close as possible to the the setup right out of the package. I wanted to be able to give it a fair chance to redeem itself and also wanted to see if the changes I made in setup helped stop the original fail points. Now that I see that part of the fail was mine and that this is a great hammock, I am going to start looking at adding some of your mods. I am going to send you a PM later today. Right now I am taking a break from some home repairs that has turned into a 2 hr break...I better get back out there!! Thanks Again for telling me of this hammock. Have A great weekend My Friend!!
Out of the box this thing really leaves a lot to be desired. But a little fine tuning and it really works... Hey, after you extend those end ropes take some paracord and just tie in a ridgeline with a taut-line hitch for adjustment. Run it over the top of the net and try adjusting it a little at a time and see how you like it.. That is what I did on all of my hammock that I modified this way. That way you will know if it is worth the work to install. Some will not like it and this will help to avoid the trouble of the install. But I am sure that you will like it as it will give you control over your sag and center of gravity as well as give you a place to store things. Before you actually install the ridgeline inside let me know as I have an easy, no sew, cheap, ridgeline organizer idea that works great.
Bob Amos On my hammock trip this summer, I had a 20 degree underquilt that Used as an overquilt and an air pad for under my hammock. The airpad was so cold and uncomfortable, I ended up using the underquilt as intended and stuffing the air pad on top of me to stay warm with a thin fleece blanket. Underquilts are the way to go! I just bought this hammock as my boyfriend is afraid he’ll fall out of the hammock while sleeping, so this is better for him. For my next trip, I have just an ultralight Eno Sub6 and I bought a 3 oz mosquito suit for $20 from Field & Stream. That way, when I get up at night or setup and breakdown camp, I,m still protected from the bugs.
Lee Ralph I find that the airflow isn’t that great with the mosquito netting. I won’t use this in the summer, but it would be great for winter camping as it would keep me warmer. You could just make 2 holes in the netting for the ridge line and superglue and duct tape with grommets for reinforcement. I found that the mosquito netting had extra room in mine and I was able to store my glasses in my hard shell case. For $40, this is a decent hammock. The Equip hammock tarp is too small for this hammock, but works great for my smaller ENO ultralight hammocks.
I ran out and got this setup with underpad, setting it up and performing mods today, thanks to y'all doing these vids. In just the lil bit I laid in it I fell asleep. Can't wait to do a cycling trek across the USA in spring
I'm 5ft 11 and quickly found sweet spots with and without sleep mat. My first hammock...
Sorry for the late response. Have you had any chances to try it out yet? I am curious of your thoughts. Please let also know of how it did on the trek this spring.
Thanks for checking this out and wish you all the best!
Good video and info
Thanks Jeff!!!
Video helped me a bit there ! The fly i bought for my hobo hammock came with straps similar to the Atlas straps you show. I never quite figured them out the first time I used it.. Looks like i'm going to have to do a little research on the proper use of them.. thanks for the reminder..lol
I wish you would have show getting out of that thing in the morning.. That's the roughest part for this 'ole guy...lol
Thanks Chuck! Funny thing I did not care for them the first time I used a pair of my friends straps. I was used to using whoppie slings, the straps did not seem to have enough "fine" adjustment. This time they seemed t work a lot better...I am not sure if it is just because I have learned new ways to get my angle right..or just plain luck. I thing it was just plain luck LOL
I understand Buddy. Funny thing this one is really very easy to get in and out of. One thing that helps is making sure it is at proper height, like setting height. I used to have a bad habit of trying to hang my hammocks to high...which made mornings...and early mornings wake up calls the worst!
Since mine doesn't have a bug net I'm toying withe the idea of tying a rope to the tree at my feet with a double loop on the other end that I can grab and pull myself up without putting excessive pressure on the hammock it's self. Tied one up but haven't tried it yet...lol
I have hard of lots of guys using Sheers sewn together over the bugnet as a net. Bob Amos (who turned me on to this hammock, and has some great mods for it) at first was using a sheer set up that sounded really light and useful. Now that is a great idea...there are many that could benefit from that sort of info!!! Good Tip. Let me know how it works
Wow, makin bfast ive never seen ya move so fast, lol. Wakin up upside down would definitelt be shitty weekend
I heard a Seabee was coming to eat...I wanted to make sure I had plenty on hand a ready to go LOL
Brother it was!! It did not just turn over it flipped like I was hit with a tidal wave LOL
Lee I couldn't sleep in that well. It would take some time to get used to. Nice review.
They do take some time to get used to and a bit of experimenting. That is the worse part...I hate hammocks after a bad nights sleep, but want to love them...but fight and fight to get that perfect hang....but when it happens it is the best rest ever!
Thanks for stopping by...oh Man that roofing tar can sure be a mess to clean up if you get it on stuff...I reek of gasoline from washing my hands after getting some all over me...but it sure seals up well!
Glad to see you Lee. Hope you finally got it set up.
Thanks My Friend..and it is always to good to hear from you, I always enjoy that! IT seemed to work a bit better..but it seems there is always some tweaking with hammock camping LOL
Lee Ralph I would fall right out for sure. I am glad to see a video from you sir.
Thanks My Friend, That is very kind of you!!! Actually I think you would do fine. For the most part they are fairly steady. This is the first hammock that this has ever flipped on me. Thanks for stopping by my Friend!!
Bought this yesterday and tried it out last night cause it was too good of a deal to pass up. Added a ridgeline and it worked really well, very pleased after one night. In my opinion there is way too much bug net material which adds some bulk and the components definitely feel cheap, but what do you expect for 40 bucks. At least you dont feel claustrophobic in it. Plan to change out the gathered ends strap with an amsteel continuous loop and need to set up an internal ridgeline somehow. Overall was impressed with it, I'm 6ft and slept diagonal on my side with no issues. Underquilt will definitely help you be more comfortable instead of a pad. I'm happy with it... and it's better than spending $100+ for a summer hammock. I would recommend it to anyone as long as you add a ridgeline.. that goes for any of these style hammocks though. Thanks for sharing the video!
Thank You for the awesome comment!!! I agree this is a great hammock for the price. I would like to see them tweek it a bit more to lighten it up. I like the idea of adding the amsteel. I did this on my Equip 2 person video. It really cut the weight down greatly.
I did do an internal ridgeline..I hated that it did not have one..It was done for me by Bob Amos. I have videos on the amsteel and also the ridgeline set up with links to Bob's page as well. Bob has a video showing how he did it while working my hammock.
Please keep me informed of your progress with this hammock if you do the ridge line mods. I am interested in hearing how it comes out!!
Thanks for the great comment and for watching, Lee
Entertaining review, Lee.
Thanks Eric....
I'm glad that the hammock worked out for you! It does take some practice!! I ordered another hammock for my collection. lol I always wanted to give the Darien Dream Hammock a try.
They do take some practice for sure!! This is my first with a bugnet, and on this model I did not give consideration for the tension on the bugnet straps themselves..but I think in the long run it will be a decent hammock for the price. I am going to send it off to a Bob Amos (channel name) for some mods, such as adding a ridgeline. A man can never have too many hammocks LOL I had watched a recent video on the Darien Dream Hammock and hey were totally impressed with it. I hope you have the same results..I will watch for a review!! Take Care
I like my Warbonnet Blackbird and Dutch's Half-With, but I always wanted to try a Dream Hammock. The price was about $120
Actually not bad for a quality hammock..I have seen several reviews on those Darien Dream Hammock since you mentioned it...all have said that they got a great nights sleep. I may have to look at giving one a try. ATB, Lee
Glad to see it worked out for you in the end. Thanks for the informative video.
Thank You...I wanted to like this hammock, I really did ...but the failure really made me question its reliability and usefulness.. I know it is a budget hammock, but I think you would not expect the level of failure from a company that want to be a budget friendly outdoors gear supplier.
After learning that part of the failure may have been my own improper setup made me feel this would be a decent budget piece of gear....with care as to the setup. Thanks for stopping by, Take care!
Never tried a hammock.. I guess some fine tuning is necessary for anything new. Thank you for the video, Lee
It does take some fine tuning for sure!!!! That is one of the reasons I almost quit using a hammock and wanted to go to a solo tent, But I really wanted to enjoy hammock camping and getting a good nights sleep as well and did not want to give up on learning and trying different types of setups. I think it is possible..but after some time of tweaking the setup a bit.
Thanks for stopping by.
OH by the way..I just had a great reply to the motor tear down video...the guy made some very good points as to why he thinks it did not hydrolock. ATB
I checked the guys reply, Lee. He is running on the right track. You will never know for sure what happened, so no use worrying about it.. Thank you for the reply, Ralph
I Think You are right my Friend!!!!
looks a nice set up Lee
do you have a lot of experience in hammock camping?
atb
Steve
Thanks Steve. Hammock camping is my usual "go to" method of shelter/sleep system. I have looked at doing a bit more of the tent camping with my solo tent but have not had the opportunity yet. Have a great weekend my Friend!
in my case it is the way around,i have more experience in tent,shelter than hammock
great weekend buddy
Great video man. I've never done any hammock camping, just a tent camper. But I see a lot of people doing it, and it's got me thinking of trying it out soon.
Thank You!!! I will tell you it does take some getting used to and if you are one of those details people (as I am lol) ..you can drive yourself crazy trying to get that "perfect hang" with all the angles and measurements. I have learned to just set it up and learn what I like and what makes for a bad nights sleep and remember that info for the next setup, but at the same time, I keep in mind those "details" that others have already figured out that worked well. I have also found...each hammock has its pluses and its negatives. Good Luck if you give it a try..and I hope you get that perfect hang to get a great nights sleep. Thanks for watching!!
Good vid, good info.
Thanks Buzz!!! I hope it helps someone thinking of getting this tarp. Take care, Lee
Reason #2000,why im leary of sleeping in a hammock,,Thanks Lee
Hey Mike!!! The night it flipped, I would have gladly curled up in a tent if I had one handy LOL If it did not have the bugnet, to catch me I probably would have never crawled back in another!! LOL
Hitchhikers all over my Pants all the time .
HAHA I know that issue well!
I'm still here, but I didn't make your coffee. Lol.
Love that fire pit. I'm still watching the video.
LOL...that's fine Scott, I will make my own :)
I am glad it was still there! This camp grounds is an abandoned camp grounds and much of it is in bad shape. It sure came in handy!!
Thanks for watching my Friend!
Great review. I guess how you set something up makes a big difference in it's performance. good tips.
So True Val. I have lost many nights sleep because of a bad set up either by a rushed setup or my lack of knowledge. Thank You!!
For a budget hammock it seems to work all right once you figured out all the little idiosyncrasies that come with it. I can just imagine being sound asleep and all of a sudden find yourself flipped over in the bug net LOL. I'm sure it wasn't funny at the time but it sure is now. Excellent review my friend and as always thanks for sharing.
It has surprised me for being a budget hammock...but the first surprise I got was not a pleasant one LOL
A guy by the channel name Bob Amos did some mods on this hammock and made it even better!!
Thanks for stopping and for the kind comment!
I personally don't like the ones that mount directly to the hammock. I have a few but prefer to use one that's independent. Check out the Fronkey bug net. Remember not to hang higher then your willing to fall..
This is the first type I had used. I had heard of the Fronkey, the guy that turned me on to this was talking to me about Fronkey's he had made before getting this hammock. I may end up making some for my other hammocks..Brother I learned about that falling height!!! Take Care....Oh by the way, I got the package the other day, I will get an opening video up as soon as I can...Take Care, Lee
Very good and honest review brother! One thing with the bugnet straps: Maybe you could replace these by shotcord, that might help! But that doesn't fix the other flaws in the design for sure. Cheers, Marc
Thank You Brother!! I had heard of the shotcord, but have never used it. I know very little of it...does it allow for more stretch?
You are right that it does not fix the other flaws. It is a budget hammock for sure and as they say you get what you pay for, but I think that with a better and proper set up (which I failed at on the first one) some of these can be combated. I am think of popping for a bit less of a budget hammock and testing it to see if there really is a big difference in Budget verses middle to higher end hammocks.
Thanks for the invite the other night. I thoroughly enjoyed it. That was the highlight of my week!!! Take care My friend!!
Hey, shotcord is basically bungeecord. Nothing expensive, you get everywhere, this rubber-cord stuff that you use for sewing. This is very flexible. Oh, you're welcome, it was great to talk to you! Cheers, Marc
Thanks Marc, I will look into it!!
This is really neat but I don't think I could figure it out by myself lol
Thank You. I think You would do fine. They are really not that hard..in fact I find that is a big issue with hammock camping , often we try to make rocket science out of boiling water. Thanks for stopping by!
Glad you recommend the hammock at the end. I bet the double hammock would get a better lay though. Great and honest review. Thanks for sharing.
+Scott Taylor Scott, as far as the Equip Hammocks go, I really did like the roominess of the double hammock. This one seems to lay a lot different then the double, more flat and straight then diagonal. I think if the setup is done properly that this would be a great budget hammock and perfect for that non woods person to help combat the mosquitoes. Have a great week my Friend.
No wonder I am happy with my John-hammock. Dollar Store $1 6x8 party (cotton) netting, or used dumpster-diving used gill netting. Make my 2 - 50 ft John-paracord line, that is interwoven each 3 inches 0-0-0-0-0-0-0 pattern (tedious prepping work, but saves all time later) for a 50 foot line. This is interwoven through the netting, making a double or triple layer 2x8 foot net hammock. Install a short ridgeline connecting to the head and foot ends of the hammock lines. Acquiring the proper length x width of lightweight mosquito netting, make a 6 x 8 foot mosquito screening. Sew-in small magnets along the netting.
Hang the net hammock from the double-line paracord to each tree (or a double tripod pole system), and use the 0-0-0 loops in the paracord for threading the tag ends through and toggle. NO MORE KNOTS !!! Quick fast up, quick fast down. The ridgeline is already attached to the hammock lines will naturally pop up with proper tension. Toss the mosquito sheeting OVER the ridgeline and pull around hammock, and magnet close along the head and foot ends of the hammock. No more fg zipper issues. Netting hangs from ridgeline and net hammock edges away from body, and there is enough undersag, so skeeters don't bite you on the a--.
Further options for the 2-layer net hammock (with the third layer tossed over the ridgeline, creating a superstructure of netting for hanging small gear inside the hammock above your body, small ruck, boots, wet clothing, etc. Like an upside down "e", put a space blanket between the netting layers, and if further wanted, this can become a duff and debris mattress in between the netting. Have another blanket, fold and put that between the two layers and can overlap like the netting layer for a blanket hammock coccoon. If you bring a queen or king size wool blanket then you can make an infolded "C" design (can't draw with this GD character set). Lay out blanket. find halfway point and in-fold both sides of blanket to that point. Fold one side over the other side. You make a "c" within the "C" blanket for a double-layered blanket sleeping bed and hammock system. Tossing that upper "C" over the ridgeline and you have your wool coccoon. No need for any bigger under-quilting system. Other option is to also wrap the space blanket between the 2 layers and over the ridgeline with the other netting and wool blanket for an even greater insulated coccoon sleep system.
Netting, paracord, ridgeline cord, mosquito sheeting with magnets, space blanket, < 1#. Less overall cost than the $160+ ENO hammock and its weight at 1# 6 oz (?).
Taking down the hammock, remove and fold up the blanket into blanket roll and horseshoe around ruck, fold up the space blanket and put into little ruck pocket, undo and fold up mosquito netting into small packet, and stored in small ruck pocket. Untoggle, unthread paracord line from one tree, and push netting away, while pulling all paracord out of hammock. Ends up in little netting ball, with longer paracord at the other tree. Untoggle, and untread other tree end. Small netting ball, smaller than softball size, and wrap/wind both paracord ends and the ridgeline around the netting. Stuff into ruck. Same for putting hammock up, unwind and toggle-up one paracord end, and pull netting and paracord to other tree and toggle up. Quick, fast, easy.
Brother I sure wished you could do a video on these!!! You have some of the coolest ideas...I hate to say it, I am a heck of a DIY guy on things like home repairs, or car maintenance...but on things like this I suck terribly LOL
I would love to see this!! Do you have any pics to put on Goggle+ or Gmail? Sounds awesome!! I do not remember seeing it..but sounds like there is not much weight to this set up.
Thanks for sharing this with us!
What's with the back noise you can't hear a thing
I am unsure what you are hearing, I do not hear any back noise besides birds...this is the first time anyone has mentioned not being able to hear. Thanks for the feed back, I will re watch it and see if I can hear the "back noise"
i bought one just to have a extra ,, i don't like how it lays either . i have been using hammocks for years and you just can't beat a good rip stop nylon hammock that don't stretch ..
..bill
Good Point!! I did not mention the stretch part...I wonder if this also lead to the failure of the first hammock. They stress on their package not to hang over 18 inches high...the one that failed was quite high. I did feel some stretch in it, and in this one as well. I had to re position this hammock after the first hang because I did sag to low when I got into it. I have never tried a ripstop hammock.... I think LOL Sadly I am not up on the different fabrics as I should be. As all my hammocks are the 3 different Equip models, I am assuming they are made of some sort of lesser nylon and not the ripstop styled nylon itself. Do you have any info on that? Thanks!
My net ripped out of my Grand Trunk the second day of use.
WOW. I have never used a Grand Trunk, but thought that they were supposed to be pretty decent and roomy hammocks. That is not good at all!! Were you able to replace it?
Out of curiosity, may I ask your thoughts on their hammocks...both before and after the fail?
I would have liked to see video of your hammock flipping and you laying in the bug net :D But instead of getting my cheap thrill fix, I had to go to other youtube vids of "hammock fail compilation", "fat people getting into a hammock", etc. I need to get out more !!
HEY Who you calling FAT????? LOL
I wished I had too!! I was out camping with my buddy OutdoorsmansParadise when it happened..after I quit yelling and cussing...I said that would have been an awesome thing to have caught on video LOL
I am taking a break from doing some home repairs at the moment...but, now you have me itching to look up those fail videos!!
LoL not at you brother but with you, I to woke up in the night lying on my bug net and my hammock above me wow how did that happen lol . I also have a klimic static v and love it but it was all over in my hammock at night so ya I'm a ground dweller now till I get a under and a over quilt
Atb john
LOL That is a scary feeling isn't my Friend!!! I had know clue either what had happened when it flipped. I love that Static V in a tent..it does not do well in a hammock at all. i really want to look into the underquilt thing. Take care Brother!!
well i have to say you do go and do a great job on testing them out ,,,,,if ya get up in the middle of the night watch out for that blue tarp,old no sholders like to go under them at night and you in up walking on a snake ,lol its not fun
Hey Buddy!!! How are you doing Joey? I hope it is starting to warm up a bit for you!!
I have been worried a bit about that old no shoulders!! It is still a bit warm here. I wanted to go camp at a camp where I had a fire pit next to a stone wall...but I just knew it was crawling with copperheads..so I stayed away from there. In the middle of the night, my butt is not getting out of a tent, hammock, a camper or a mansion..with out shinning my light all over and putting my shoes on first!! LOL
Lee, you said you slept well but at the end you sound pretty bushed... If you want to use it as a chair, couldn't you untie the net suspension and ait on top of the net?
I think you may be right my friend, I did not realize that until I rewatched it. I did sleep well once I got everything situated and straightened out...but I did loss at lest 2 hrs, maybe more fighting everything. I may have been more tired then I knew...I know I was glad to get home and stretch out though. You have a great point on the chair, simple and easy. THANKS!!!
improvise. adapt. overcome. you were just testing the net for weight breaking point. yeah yeah that's it. glad it wasn't a catastrophic failure. Semper Fi.
Yup, That is my story and I am sticking to it LOL
Brother that second I felt that hammock strap snap..and it was no passive snap and flip!!! It was like I told another..like a tidal wave had hit me...I did not know what happened until I was facing the ground hanging in the net...I am sooooooo glad there was a net on this hammock. It would have been a painful crash as I hit the ground.. LOL
Take care my Friend and Brother Semper Fi!!
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Never camped out and slept in a hammock! I used to sleep on the ground when I was very young, but later on I had to get a foam mattress or an air mattress. I can see where they would be comfy! Okay Lee, I get it, you're a fast cook! LOL! Nice recovery Lee!
LOL, Truthfully Todd, I had speed the cooking part up while editing and I was not sure if it would stay or not in the final edit..so I just speed it up to make that part go by faster...I forgot to remove it when I uploaded LOL
Brother, I do not sleep straight on the ground now days if I do not have too..I pay for it to much the next day! I have to have at least a sleeping mat.
The hammocks have taken a lot to get just right. I like them, but have lost many a nights sleep. As I like to say "I sure want to get that perfect hammock hang...but I sure am not going to lose sleep over it" LOL I have tried using all the tips given on UA-cam and webpages and had the worst nights sleep ever...but when we just set them up by what feels good, I get a rest full night. They do take some tweaking. I am hoping to start trying to use my tent more when the weather cools and bugs would be a lesser issue,
ATB My Friend!
These 9 foot hammocks aint long enough for most men (at least 6 foot) to get a good comfy lay to camp in one overnight. For a camp chair or to day nap in it might be fine.
I am not very tall at all, and I agree with you. This is something that I did not realize at first. Good Point, Thanks for watching and for the comment!
always some detail that need fixing ;)
So True! Thanks for Watching!
What did you say? All i hear is locust.
Yup they are loud here at that time of year...but much better sounding than traffic, cop cars and noisy neighbors!!! Thanks for the comment
to be honest, i never liked hammocks at all
would not ever want one but that's me lol
I have some friends that feel the same exact way and they are far far more experienced woodsman/bushcrafters than I am. I think for sure it is a personal preference thing. ATB!!
I got a perfect solution...Sleep with about 20 Frogs and you won't need a Bug Net...lol. That way will have fatter Frogs for Breakfast in the morning...Ah Hahahaha. I'm still working on my bug net setup...and this October I plan on using it...but first I gotta test it out in the skeeter infested Yard Of Bone's Yard...lol.
LOL great solution Brother...and they can sing me to sleep as well! Frog Legs for Breakfast...all skeeter fattened up, you may be on to something here
Cool, I can not wait to see it, I think you will like the big difference they make. Just a side note...I think Bone may breeding them things as some sort of secret War Weapon!!!!
If I recall you must fail to succeed
Well said Ranger!
Like I always say you gotta fail to succeed
LOL Love it!!! I have sent this hammock of to Bob Amos to do some mods...made a world of difference