WAS WYCLEF RESPONSIBLE FOR CANIBUS FAILURE??? CANIBUS SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT....
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The best part about Canibus is how open he is in this interview. No ego involved. Just self realization. He is open to feedback from people that didn’t even sell a record. Good stuff.
You said that well.I was thinking the same thing.
Seems like he has no ill will.probably because it seems he was able to transform his life after rap.Good for him if that’s the case.it’s gotta be hard.
See our comment 👆
GROWTH
This is the first Canibus interview I've ever seen where he wasn't super awkward of kind of standoffish. It was nice to see him comfortable.
The bootleg Kev interview was a tough watch.
“Everybody say What Canibus could’ve been, but wasn’t none of ‘em tried to help except Clef.” 🙌🏽
Probably cause they thought he was on his way. Nobody envisioned his trajectory leading elsewhere than Mount Rushmore of rap.
@@andrewthomas364 nop they were scared and jealous
@@andrewthomas364 You're right. Wyclef was the biggest artist in hip hop back then, so everyone probably just assumed Canibus would be good under his wing.
I knew someone highlighted that so I had to scroll before I did . 👍🏾
@@thisisanewusername4662 this is the most truthful fact comment I've ever seen on social media regarding Canibus
This clip reflects absolute maturity and an individual who can see the bigger picture.
This brother changed my life. Made me approach every craft aiming for precision & excellence. Beautiful to hear his perspective now and see him get his flowers. Salute to the one and only 🙏🏾
🎯🎯🎯🎯
One of the Best interviews. Brother has a lot to say. Very wise and well spoken. Let him get his shit off. Can’t wait for the full interview.
Hands down, one of my best Math interviews so far
Indeed one of the BEST interviews! Shout out to Can I Bus!!
I’m feeling like a feen waiting for the full interview 😂
Faxxx
Yo let's get Redman on the show that would be a bangin episode
I'm with that
I would love to see it.
That's gonna be dope
Facts💯🎤
MUST
It's amazing to see how humble Canibus has become, and it's super dope to see him big up Clef for believing him, giving him a shot, and taking him to the next level
How, is Cannibus humble? He sittin up there acting like he actually had a chance at Halle Berry. Like he was going to get her. Cannibus is out his mind. Cannibus was so wack af, I doubt he even had groupies. But yet he wanted Halle Berry. You call that humble? Lmao
@@yo3rdtier128are u remedial? Do have comprehension issues? The man said he was young and everything was happening so fast. He’s meeting people he never imagined he would have. And at a moment when he was young he didn’t fully know who Eric Benet was but he knew who Halle was. And was star struck like anyone would be given how fine she was. How are you faulting him for trying to holla and/or show interest in a woman most men fantasized let alone never met? Lol
Most of us have made bad decisions, thought/saw things differently, wasn’t mature at different points in our lives. He took you back to a period in his life and explained where he was at and how he looked at things. Over 2 decades ago.
And here you are in 2023 asking how is he humble for telling a story when he was young. Next time pay attention
@skillz78 I was gonna respond to him, but you summed it up so good, there's nothing extra to add
@@yo3rdtier128 Halle just a another bych from Cleveland so why should HE put her on a pedestal...
@PowerToTheTubers exactly !! thank you @skillz78
"Everybody said what Canibus could've been but wasn't none of them trying to help except Clef...". That statement shuts the entire counterargument down!
That was it right there
precisely
Precisely
RIGHT!!!! All this coulda BS!! Y’all wasn’t around 🤔
I always wondered why NYC producers like Preemo, Pete Rock, Large Pro, Rza, Dame Grease, etc never reached out to Canibus. He was signed to Universal Music so he had the budget to pay them. Those producers are the main ones who have gone on record to critique Canibus' output.
Nobody really embraced Canibus after the fallout.
Nobody! The culture failed him because he was such a lyrical threat.
He didn’t really try to make any friends
Agree. Didn't help that he challenged "the machine" early on with LL though. I remember the streets feeling like Canibus really won that. At the end of the day, "the machine" decides who will be famous.
His first album just wasn’t good, unfortunately he didn’t get a second chance. By his second album he had already been written off. Canibus should’ve had Wyclef do 2nd Round K.O. and other producers like Premier or RZA do the rest. Maybe at a certain point, it wasn’t up to him if he was gonna get a major label budget and support.
@@nineixb616If you’re going to go at powerful figures aggressively you’d better have Dr. Dre and Jimmy or people of similar stature backing you. Wyclef didn’t have it.
@@watchyamouth5053 how do you know? The politics can go deeper than what's presented 💯❗️
I'm so happy he gets to tell his side of the story.
Me too. Long overdue 🤣🤣🤣
Been a big fan of this man since 1996. Hearing speak on these issues, the maturity has made me a bigger fan of his than ever.
Canibus reminds me of Cormega A LOT. Both are super talented, MONSTERS on the mic, got into beefs with hip-hop legends and held their own, and never saw the mainstream success they deserved. It feels like both of their careers were mismanaged, which sucks because I think of all of the dope music we real hip-hop fans lost out on.
Big ups for that respect for Mega Montana!
ok
Yooo, forreal. Mega was a MONSTER. I really do think and feel that I got to witness the best era of rap but still I know I deprived of much because people like Mega and Canibus were not allowed to florish
Real hip hop fans haven’t missed anything from him we regularly listen and support canibus
@@Essencemusica47 I'm talking about reaching his max potential. He never was able to get the support or a decent budget that would allow him to make a true classic album. Just imagine if Canibus got to work with the Alchemist, Just Blaze, RZA, Havoc, Em, etc., where he could just collaborate and make something crazy.
Son is right. First time i heard Canibus was like late 96-97, i was in college. I used to write rhymes back then. I heard son and was like "I WANT TO RAP LIKE THAT" and knew i couldn't rap like that so making beats it was lol.
You should have kept writing.
Mark of a true monster….when you have people questioning if they should quit! I felt that way when I read the linear notes on It Was Written. I kept writing though
Nas made me quit writing for awhile... just like when Eminem first heard Treach, he had writer's block for a whole year.
You weren’t the only one none of us could 😅
I felt the same back then too bro.
The Canibus experience is one of my best so far. Blessings to the whole crew.
Cannibus is a good dude. I'm so happy I took the time on this interview. Before I die I'd love to hear Cannibus go bar for bar with Nas, Em, Royce, Kendrick, Cole and other lyricists from the past 20 years. He deserves that
Without a notebook tho.
@@JamalFuckinKilla ouch owl child. Most of your favourite rappers would struggle battle rapping too.
@@JamalFuckinKillabro, what are you like one of those soldiers that get stuck on an island and forget the war is over? Grow up. Everyone loses. Ali, Tyson, MJ, Lebron. You’re a child.
@@JamalFuckinKilla and they all write ✍️🏾 anyways .... battle rappers 😂
he's light years ahead of all of them combined and doubled
Canibus and Derrick Rose are the 2 best interviews Math had done. Learned alot from those 2 right there
Facts 💯
His last words hit me!!!!!shout out to clef u did good by canibus
He certainly did. The man deserves mad love & respect.
Facts
Glued to my phone, the editing is on point. Every clip end with an amazing point being brought across. Thank Math for allowing Canibus to tell his story. Salute.
After hearing CANIBUS explanation, I totally understand why he worked with Wyclef for his 1st Album.
The industry was trying to kill his energy. I already knew this. What I didn't know was the extent
Of course he'd want to work with Wyclef back then. He had 2 of the biggest albums in the world in the late 90's. On paper it made perfect sense. It just didn't end up being a good fit for him.
@@spek-27 actually it did because that album is double platinum now and he's still getting royalties💯
@@skeetskeetnews4924 The album went gold and it got a lot of negative reviews. Back then that was considered below average in comparison to the other albums coming out during that time and compared to all the hype and anticipation that was built up.
"And to the ghetto Superstar who plays the guitar
And got lucky off Salaam Remi's track FugeeLa
Trust me nigga, every dog has his day
I chop off your dreads and auction them on eBay
So yo forget the he say she say, rumors are cliche
I'm just here to talk about my release date
2000 BC coming out tomorrow
My album is ill you can ask Clue and Duro"
I don't even want to watch this clip, I kind of want to hang on and hold out until the entire episode drops, these clips are way too good and I feel like I'm being spoiled, I really want to hear this story but I want to hear it in the context of the conversation so I might have to skip this one but definitely leave a like in the meanwhile. Thank you Math once again and thank you, Germaine Williams for finally letting us in.
I ended up watching but I feel exactly the same. It needs to be watched in it’s entirety and within the context and flow of the interview. Looking forward to it.
Yo this is putting biz out to a new crowd of listeners. Salute🙏🙏
You out did yourself with this one Math. We needed this. God bless!
It's early, but I'm guessing this is gonna be one of the best hip-hop interviews of '23. So much insight and lack of ego, and his storytelling is mad funny and well paced.
pure humility from Canibus. Thank you Math for giving this Legend (with a capital L) a platform to speak.
Second time posting on a Can I bus segment….man I never understood how much hip hop needed this brother at that time but we all got a taste of greatness and he’s living proof of MAN coming full circle. Peace to Math and crew..probably the best interview to date
This might Just be the rehabilitation Canibus needs.
Need more Canibus in the World man
I remember when I first heard Canibus I was like WOW this is the craziest shit I ever heard and then Big Pun at that time I put both of them as almost super human level of how dope their shit was
1) This is Canibus's best interview.
2) I'm glad he is setting the record straight about Wyclef.
Mecca is telling Bis exactly what I wish I had a chance to tell him back in the day. Respect.
Canibus was my favorite rapper for a good while. Math is getting some of the best interviews outta of some GOATS. I think his humbleness is attracting good energy from some great artists. Props to Math.
It's interesting how things look from the outside. I mean, we all felt what Math was speaking of, but for Bus it was totally different than how we thought it was.
What Canibus did on his second album is what everyone wanted and expected him to do on his first album. But now I see why he worked with Wyclef and followed his vision.
2nd album was lit 🔥
No, Cannibus had no good albums. Cannibus was wack af. He was a goofy. He lost all his rap battles. Was Cannibus put on the all time worst rappers? He’s 1 of them
@@yo3rdtier128 lmao.... #TROLL
Real talk. I've always felt Wyclef wasn't the guy to put together a Canibus album but hearing this I can see why Canibus did go with Clef. In reality it shouldn't have been up to Canibus to make those decisions. His A&R team should have been the ones making sure the first album was the project the streets wanted and expected.
The second album was okay it was a bit rappity rap
I love this interview and I really fat large respect and love for this podcast show for real, in Lagos Nigeria1998 every body my age into rap we’re all routing and waiting for the canines album to drop and when it dropped we listened and read all the reviews in the source magazine , Xxl and vibe magazines was all we did in my hood then at 17years old , it hurt is how the sales went with that debut album and how the media blamed Wyclef for it not going 500k first week and a platinum a week or two weeks after , wyclef did a great job but the universe didn’t just align for the album to be multi platinum sales from the gate another album that did what canibus would have been from the gate was 50cent , I guess Gods timing and grace also works with music , I still listen to honor , what’s going on till this date it takes me back to good ole days of teenagers reading the source magazines at the basket ball court in my hood in Lagos and arguing about rap music albums and writhing rhymes as well , bless you canibus and math Hoffa , Mecca, champ , Bigga and gat murdah all y’all make me nostalgic and happy here in Lagos Nigeria 🇳🇬 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬
Fav guest so far for me. Canibus need a show of his own man. Respect 💯
Give him props for showing respect to Wyclef. Most people focus so much on what you didn't do for them, they forget all the shit you did do to help them.
Canibus was the shit and can't no one front on what his rhymes did for the art. He was a monster. I was all into west coast gangsta shit until I heard Canibus and then became way more interested in bars. Canibus was dangerous. I respect him even more for the honesty he's showing in these clips. A legend and champion of the sport of emceeing. 💯💯💯💯
Dam this interview is monumental!
I can confirm i was one of the nicest in my area that time, getting some small plays on Hot 97 and all that, and I heard this guy bars and was like wow, I gotta get focused. Some of my best rhymes csme after that. A legend and an inspiration
Since day one I been a CANIBUS fan. The failed battle with Dizaster, the shortcomings beefing with LL and Eminem....don't change nothing!
Bis is 1000% hip-hop and his pen is one of a kind.
If you feel like I do , you are the brotherhood.
2023+
canibus *is* hip hop
@@thisisanewusername4662 you ether build and add on for the culture or destroy and defile for the culture. Yes, Canibus is real hiphop !
Facts best line everyone talked about what Canibus could’ve been never helped him get there but Cleft
Dis jawn is a instant classic 🫡 ta Math! Bis a 🐐 don't care what no one says 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Canibus is killing this interview. Hoff and Mecca taking the interview where it needs to go
" ...I hop into the backseat of a cab and rhyme; til the meter says 9 9 9 9..." ~CANIBUS~ 😤
Canibus was Batman to me growing up. It’s a real blessing being able to see him speak his truth so openly today in a healthy and mature headspace.
Awe man 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥9️⃣8️⃣7️⃣🚀CanIbus thank you. This full episode is going to break records. Math got the crown 👑💯🙌🏾
As a hip hop fan I would love to see them work together again . Let’s make these monumental moments yal . I remember when Nas came out at MSG with Jayz . Sheeesh I get chills man . We’ve been robbed of so many more epic moments.
*Clef deserves mad credit for the gift that is Canibus plus he's a legendary artist himself!*
I thought the beats on the debut album was fresh and original. I still love that record. Compared to anything else around that time, it was unique. Wish those guys hadn’t gone at it.
@@randydaytona5615 all he needed to balance out direction of the project is production from DJ Premier, Eric Sermon, Large Pro etc. (Producers of that Caliber) it would've been a different experience/conversation amongst hip hop heads regarding Canibus's Place in The Rushmore 💯💯💯❗️❗️❗️
@@MastaInferno no doubt
@@randydaytona5615 my sentiments exactly!
@@MastaInferno absolutely!
This is a great interview. Canibus is who made me STOP rapping and focus on the beats. I can imagine a lot of MCs felt the same way, hence why he was on an island of his own.
“It will cost you a brain cell just to cipher with me!” He was the bar king in that era.
“I’ll rip ya fuckin skin off just to get on ya nerves”
Yes Canibus bars were raw!! All those mixtape freestyles had us in awe back then!!!
The ONLY one better was Em... And Canibus was FIRST...
@@alanduff1054 That’s right fam!
@@hanielnasheed7189 Indeed Bro
If canibus doesn't want me to be mad at clef then I take it all back
Dope how he puts respect on Wyclef when everyone knows it wasn't a good fit. Shouts to Canibus.
He explained the process that Clef attempted to take him to. He wasn’t following the process due to lack of maturity and anxiousness to make it.
The last time I checked, 99% of the rappers and so called artists from that era are nowhere to be found, but Wyclef is all over the world doing things they wouldn’t even be able to do from a musical, political, and humanitarian perspective.
I wonder who is having the last laugh.
@@syntheticlubricant699 well put🙏🙏
The best interview yall have done since Tony Yayo! Make Canibus a regular!
Yeah I agree #Canibus most definitely should be a regular on My Expert opinion
One of the Best interviews.
“ I'm the sickest linguistically, illicit lyrical misfit, in the business
And probably in existence. What's your consensus?” One of the dopest rhymes
bis vs rip. funny enough, none of these cats ask him about mic club or rip the jacker.
This gonna sound crazy but a lot of the time (not all) people who came up playing instruments don't have that ear to make hard ass hip hop beats. They're usually too clean and perfect because that's what they learned. let it be known I'm not saying there are no producers like that but in general I believe this to be case and in this case I apply that to Clef. Canibus 1st album should of been like what they did with Nas Illmatic with Clef and some others A&Ring the overall album with Clef handling some production for the more mainstream tracks and to help with Canibus visibility in the market.
This got to be one of the great interviews on MEO!!!! Great job HOFFA!!!
I love his genuine appreciation for 'Clef
"nobody wanna help but 'Clef did"!👏👏
I think that for people who were Canibus fans like myself, the end of this interview really resonated.
"Look, Can-I-bus is platinum. It's not gold no more. I think it's double platinum. It's double platinum! 25th year anniversary. 'Clef didn't do a bad job the way that, Hip Hop went a bit little too hard, they never sat and thought for a second. Everyone said what Canibus could've been, but wasn't none of 'em tryin' to help except 'Clef".
Those in the industry weren't working in the best interest of Artists, they were out to exploit.. LL should've been the "OG' but he was prideful
James brown Sam cooke and the others like them were out to help other black artists, and look out after BLACK ARTISTS, they wanted to OWNED AND BE FOR 1 ANOTHER.. 2023 ARTISTS SEEM TO DO THE OPPOSITE, he said Wyclef was the ONLY 1 THAT WAS DEMONSTRATEn . That's why when dudes be fronting like they the best, 😕 Have a 💺, U not like that 4real, U insecure, and out for the fame 🐑
Yup
An OG is what he should off been, like til this day I cannot hear the diss that LL heard in Cannibus bars on that 4231 song, unless he was just using that to blow up the song
That's really dope Math Hoffa interviewed Canibus on his show.
I bought Canibus. Listened to it and his freestyles daily back then. One of if not my favorite lyrical spitter. He may never get his just due but real Hip Hop heads know.
Respect
Love these interviews with Canibus. Very candid on things that I, as an avid listener, was never really privy to. Respect 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That story about Nas is real talk. Canibus in that freestyle session with DMX & Noreaga was crazy. Have no doubt Nas heard that and thought "I need to write some better shit". I still think Canibus freestyles and guest appearance verses was a major reason why so many rappers didn't collab with him. From 97-00 he was bodying anyone on a track and I just don't think the emcees at the top of the industry wanted to be outshined.
Fear of being upstaged or outshone is a real thing amongst the elite of Emcees, the unspoken rules if you will!
@@MastaInferno it's the real reason LL acted like a bitch. He heard the original 4-3-2-1 verse and couldn't have some new young rapped being the talk of the track. Stupid really when you hear people like Redman say canibus wasn't arrogant or trying to make others look stupid. Dude was just spitting flames as that's what we wanted to hear.
Canibus murdered Desperados on The Firm album he came out the box on Fire and Nas definitely seen it
This is the best interview ever on my expert opinion 💯
Clef deserves the MAXIMUM respect for getting Canibus' talent exposure! Regardless of the tactics.
? Canibus was doing a good job himself
@@thecunninlynguist not dismissing Can's efforts or success, but 2nd Round was the height of his exposure, you disagree?
Great to see the lyrical assassin tell his story. Great interview
Canibus just said the truth, what more can I ask for. A chapter in Hip Hop cemented forever and his debut album Double Platinum. Much Respect, nothing else to prove Champ 🏆
Canibus is a lyrical beast
Great great interview Math!!!!
Hindsight bein 20/20 I think I see what happened. The mainstream-juggernaut was the following post September 8, 1998:
- "coke-rap"
- "mumble-rap"
- "animation-rap"
which if you think about it, if Juvie is the only 1 that was on rookie-status like Canibus versus those that was on their Sophomore, & Junior-Run, it was a 180-shift that took-place, & I never looked it that way, but I wonder how NY wouldve looked if both Juvie, & Canibus wouldve got the same energy that year? Hell even Juvie got a major East-Stamp for "Ha!," & he been on rekord for sayin he was surprised like everyone else, per not bein told prior.
So did an infiltrated-shift get a premeditated greenlight, especially thinkin-abt that Def-Jam board Canibus was speakin-on earlier? Juvie 400 was gonna-go regardless, but thinkin abt this klip + the 1 abt the board, & lookin at who solo-work dropped after September 8 of that year, itz very-interestin. Look at Refugees & Cash Money solo-debutz that year, & then ⏩ to today Feb. 26, & look at the Geo of both Rap, & Hip-Hop.
Ill personally-offer Kendrick, & Cole as a given, but list 5 Canibus-Tier lyricist with a body of work today:
#innoorder
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
let's be honest.... the carnival had the type of beats we wanted on Can-I-Bus. imagine canibus on the Apocalypse beat??? so we have to put some blame on Clef for keeping the best beats for himself. but we also have to blame Canibus too for doing dumb shit like turning down that DJ Premier beat!
Yooo that's exactly what I remember. You brought that memory back up. Cuz the streets was looking at Clef funny after that. He made it all about himself and dropped that solo shit when he should've taken a break and pushed Canibus 1st
Poet Laureate Infinity, he will always be the best lyrically…
Love clef showing love getting Canibus out here get known and shine his supernatural abilities on paper to the world salute to the man legend vet
really interesting. i always thought canibus was lyrically super ill. when it comes to straight rappin he is a king regardless of career choices etc
That last line! Canibus has said a few times that nobody was helping…
Yo math that inview with canibus is a classic keep the movement going bro peace
Wow, I always assumed Canibus was just a lyrical genuis that was extremely introverted and hated speaking but DAMN this is a great interview! 🔥 🔥
2000 B.C. should have been certified Gold & Platinum already...
A real man dont let people talk down on someone who helped and ment something to you most wouldnt interject and let them know
Wow it’s great to see Canibus’ maturation. This dude was lyrically unstoppable in the late 90s. He just made some bad decisions.
Yes, he did make bad decisions but also to take into account that some people in his circle was no better, in guiding him along better as well. That's the take away here, well atleast for me!
@@MastaInferno true
Yo MATH. I be like the videos before I even watch it. That’s how good y’all are !! ⭐️
Liking ^
Canibus was killing it on the mixtape circuit. Why? Cause he could rhyme his ass off over dope instrumentals. Clef tried to take him somewhere his fans didn’t want to go.
What fans. Biz and clef was and still is ahead of their time. Fans support their artist but blk folks is something else when it comes tooo loyalty 💯
That dude never smile lol😂he ready to hook off any given moment 😂
why Cnibus mention Jay Z and Souls of Mischief? maybe he meant Original Flavour ; so must of been a tongue slip
There was a West Coast JZ in the Hobo Junction, which was a crew connected with Heiroglyphics. Back then, when the East Coast Jay-Z came out I thought he was the same guy. I think Canibus may mean Original Flavour or he could have had it mixed up like I did and never did his research.
Massive super respect to Canibus . Great clip
Can-i-bus album is truly underrated. "2nd round, how come, i honour u, rip rock, buckingham palace'. Different but still gold. Underappreciated.
Wow thats an amazing story comin from an amazing lyricist this man is hella humble .
Cannibus look like a lighter version of Samuel l Jackson 😂😂😂 and who is the Michael Clark Duncan looking ninja staring 😂😂😂
Hot damn... I bought Can-I-Bus in 98 as a high schooler and thought, this album is way ahead of its time, we don't appreciate what he really made here. That album coming out today would be loved. So unfortunate that he didn't get enough appreciation back then. Still in my top 10.
Because he's talking about this, I honestly thought he was going to link with Desert Storm/DJ Clue. Canibus had the best sound over there. Bis ripped every single DS/DJ Clue track he was on at that time. Salute Bis. ✊🏽💯👑
That was powerful!!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Canibus first album was CLASSIC.
It was just not what people wanted.
If it wasn't for Wyclef helping him out Canibus wouldn't never been Canibus so you gotta respect how he feel
i liked the beatz on Can-I-Bus. Bis' hype and anticipation for that 1st album was krazzzzy back then. 98, he was rite up there wit X and Nore
I would of liked to hear him speak about how “Desperados” came about and stories from that studio session
Canibus appreciates what it was . Math n Mecca speaking to the expectations of his fans. Canibus was larger to the culture than he knew.
good point
This a dope interview. I understand his story alot more now
Gold tier content, good work g 🔥
The last line is a bar within itself