@@TheFeralcatzhow did you know? Sorry if you don’t want to answer or talk about it. I understand if it is so. I’m on this path rightnow questioning my choices. God bless!
@@elenalele You can't know until you live in a monastery for a bit. That's really all there is to it. I was asked to leave by my Abbot because he didn't think I was a good fit.
Thank you very much! I was at Koutloumousiou Monastery and Father Chrysostom was very good and understanding with me and i keep for Him much respect and admiration. God give him many blessings and all what is good! Thanks for your content! (I'm not very good english speaker, so Please for forgiveness for my mistakes!)
Decree 18 of Council of Jerusalem 1672 addresses the issue you ask about: "We believe that the souls of those that have fallen asleep are either at rest or in torment, according to what each has done; - for when they are separated from their bodies, they depart immediately either to joy, or to sorrow and lamentation; though confessedly neither their enjoyment nor condemnation are complete. For after the common resurrection, when the soul shall be united with the body, with which it had behaved itself well or ill, each shall receive the completion of either enjoyment or of condemnation. And the souls of those involved in mortal sins, who have not departed in despair but while still living in the body, though without bringing forth any fruits of repentance, have repented - by pouring forth tears, by kneeling while watching in prayers, by afflicting themselves, by relieving the poor, and finally by showing forth by their works their love towards God and their neighbor, and which the Catholic Church has from the beginning rightly called satisfaction - [their souls] depart into Hades, and there endure the punishment due to the sins they have committed. But they are aware of their future release from there, and are delivered by the Supreme Goodness, through the prayers of the Priests, and the good works which the relatives of each do for their Departed; especially the unbloody Sacrifice benefiting the most; which each offers particularly for his relatives that have fallen asleep, and which the Catholic and Apostolic Church offers daily for all alike. Of course, it is understood that we do not know the time of their release. We know and believe that there is deliverance for such from their direful condition, and that before the common resurrection and judgment, but when we know not." ****Notice there is no third place called purgatory...it is just the realm of the dead called Hades where those who were not ready for Paradise await the judgement of the Last Day or help/ deliverance from the Lord Jesus prior to the Judgement day. The Church helps the departed ones through intercessory prayers and actions done on their behalf...as the members of Christ's body mutually help the other members. (Christ destroyed death and ushered in eternal life...death cannot seperate the members of Christ's body. This is the communion of saints) The General judgement on the Last day when Christ returns will be when all is finalized. This quote from the council of Jerusalem is the closest that I know of to an " official" statement about the intermediate state. God bless.
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Monastics are backbone of the Orthodox Church.! Stronger the monasticism - stronger The Church.!
Someone send us some monastics in Australia. The Church here needs much stronger health, less ego, less politics, more openness, more transparency.
As a young man who just moved to a monastery. This is a fantastic talk!
How is it going?
@@elenalele I'm out ha ha, not my calling. Took 2.5 years to figure that out.
@@TheFeralcatzhow did you know? Sorry if you don’t want to answer or talk about it. I understand if it is so. I’m on this path rightnow questioning my choices. God bless!
@@elenalele You can't know until you live in a monastery for a bit. That's really all there is to it. I was asked to leave by my Abbot because he didn't think I was a good fit.
@@TheFeralcatz thank you for sharing. I hope you have found peace with that. 🤍
Can’t wait! Thanks in advance
Thank you very much! I was at Koutloumousiou Monastery and Father Chrysostom was very good and understanding with me and i keep for Him much respect and admiration. God give him many blessings and all what is good!
Thanks for your content! (I'm not very good english speaker, so Please for forgiveness for my mistakes!)
Outstanding, can't wait for the rest of this interview.
I've stayed quiet a few times at the monastery of Fr Chrisostomos koutloumousiou. he is a gift
Thank you for bringing us this great content Herman
God bless and protect our holy monks. Pray for me father, a sinner.
Amen Amen Amen.
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Whats the official position of Orthodox about purgatory? Thanks
I hope it helps.
Decree 18 of Council of Jerusalem 1672 addresses the issue you ask about:
"We believe that the souls of those that have fallen asleep are either at rest or in torment, according to what each has done; - for when they are separated from their bodies, they depart immediately either to joy, or to sorrow and lamentation; though confessedly neither their enjoyment nor condemnation are complete. For after the common resurrection, when the soul shall be united with the body, with which it had behaved itself well or ill, each shall receive the completion of either enjoyment or of condemnation.
And the souls of those involved in mortal sins, who have not departed in despair but while still living in the body, though without bringing forth any fruits of repentance, have repented - by pouring forth tears, by kneeling while watching in prayers, by afflicting themselves, by relieving the poor, and finally by showing forth by their works their love towards God and their neighbor, and which the Catholic Church has from the beginning rightly called satisfaction - [their souls] depart into Hades, and there endure the punishment due to the sins they have committed. But they are aware of their future release from there, and are delivered by the Supreme Goodness, through the prayers of the Priests, and the good works which the relatives of each do for their Departed; especially the unbloody Sacrifice benefiting the most; which each offers particularly for his relatives that have fallen asleep, and which the Catholic and Apostolic Church offers daily for all alike. Of course, it is understood that we do not know the time of their release. We know and believe that there is deliverance for such from their direful condition, and that before the common resurrection and judgment, but when we know not."
****Notice there is no third place called purgatory...it is just the realm of the dead called Hades where those who were not ready for Paradise await the judgement of the Last Day or help/ deliverance from the Lord Jesus prior to the Judgement day. The Church helps the departed ones through intercessory prayers and actions done on their behalf...as the members of Christ's body mutually help the other members. (Christ destroyed death and ushered in eternal life...death cannot seperate the members of Christ's body. This is the communion of saints) The General judgement on the Last day when Christ returns will be when all is finalized. This quote from the council of Jerusalem is the closest that I know of to an " official" statement about the intermediate state. God bless.
Heretical. Read St Mark of Ephesus' homilies against it
@@nektarios8386 what's the deal with toll houses?