The Best Baritone Guitar On The Block? Gretsch Electromatic Baritone
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Is the Gretsch Electromatic Jet Baritone the new best Baritone Guitar on the market?
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0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Demo Song
2:22 - Specs
3:34 - Thoughts
7:29 - Outro
Is the Gretsch Electromatic Jet Baritone the new best Baritone Guitar on the market?
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You and the Bunn are really making me GAS for one of these!!! The pickups sound amazing according to your demo!
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Indeed
Nailed it. Guilty as charged.
To raise the market value about 300%
First time I saw this and immediately my mind goes "LOATHE!"
you have the jazzmaster and gretsch
now it's time to buy danelectro baritone
Yes!
Im trying to get the sparkle black one XD also if you dig baritones check out thebunn's youtube
and the subzero
“Yep Yep Yep” Said littleFoot.
if you play the danelectro baritone without wearing a skeleton onesie, then you are playing it wrong
I love you, Andrew but I VEHEMENTLY am AT WAR with your take about the pickups. Yes, they are very low output, but I think that provides so much clarity in chords, and if you wanna turn the gain super high on whatever your using, you can without fear of loss of integrity of the signal.
I think the pickups purr SO GOOD on distorted channels, too. Idk probably my favorite guitar I own at the moment.
Glad you like them! They're definitely not for me though haha
I agree with u to some extent. I think that high output pickups are better in a mix, but on their own, I agree with you. I have an ibanez with s-58 jazz pickups in them that sound amazing for distortion by themselves, for practice. In a mix, they get drowned out though, but they sound amazing for practice. I have a PRS with mark holcomb’s in them, which a high output, that sound amazing for cleans in practice, but not so much distortion. However, they sound amazing for distortion in a mix.
Low output pickups? Put virtually any EQ pedal in the signal path, crank the output gain, problem solved. Literally. Use a good EQ pedal and you get both the benefit of having a nice buffer and the flexibility of tone shaping, too.
High output pickups are completely unecessary AND usually sound worse, more compressed, with hollow highs, clean.
@@EversonBernardes completely agree with this take.
I think the pickups are great, especially for like drop e
Playing metal on a non-metal guitar is something, especially playing on a Gretsch.
I love it, it adds uniqueness. I use Höfner Ignition bass in my djent songs lol
@@gambello1195 Dang! Playing djent on a Höfnor bass! That’s awesome!
there’s no such thing as a non-metal guitar
@@shayefrenkel6477 Well a guitar that’s not meant for Metal but you still play it anyways.
@@gambello1195 wtf lol, that's like, the absolute last on my list for metal electric basses... I love it!
The longest scale length on a guitar I have found is on the Sago Seed Kotetsu.
33 inches!!
Dude, just searched it, this sh*t is insane
You telling me there's a baritone with more of a scale length than some basses and just an inch shorter than an average bass?
@@metalraccoon2259 it seems so.
If you're needing a little more context, the guitarist uses it with a capo to get the desired E-standard /D-standard etc... When he needs it.
He's the guitarist on Wagakki band.
That deadass seems like a guitar that could probably tune down to bass drop A.
Basically, a 6 string with the range of a 24 fret/7string guitar. Noice!
29.75” scale?! That’s insane
There are guitars that go all the way to 30”
@@MadDjentah this is the most pretentious comment I’ve read in a while lmfao
@@MadDjentah You okay buddy?
I have a 30" baritone
I know, right, that's like a toy (says the bassist).
Low to medium output pickups tend to work great on super high gain amps, especially if you boost and tune low as fuck. Low output pickups also work best with active internal preamps.
Low output pickups tend to be more dynamic and have better high frequency response, so tighter, livelier chugs with really low tunings. As you said, an internal preamp or even just an EQ pedal first thing in the signal path can boost the output and get you all the distortion you want (plus additional tone shaping capabilities and some great buffering).
@@EversonBernardes couldn't say it better myself. Well said.
Guitar looks great, tone was awesome too. Makes you think that maybe high output pickups aren’t the only way to go!
Sounds great, thanks for the demo.
I have an Ibanez baritone with a 28" scale length that I out some Abasi Fishman pickups in. I actually prefer the single coil sound for the high gain stuff. Even though it has less output, it sounds more clear and a lot less muddy. (Using a treble booster is a huge help for low tuning as well)
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@@such.ukr.nu.metalcore topeth keks.
Hey Andrew! I've had this guitar for a few months, recently swapped the pickups to fishman fluence and it has became my favorite guitar I've ever owned. Had to route out the pickup cavity for them to fit but I'm glad I did! I can send pics to whoever wants to see
I want 😀
Great tone brother and great review! 🤘🏻
You need to get your hands on Schecter Hellraiser C-VI! It has EMGs and sweet 30 inches
Funny that you mention that guitar because I had a buddy who had one forever and it was actually the first guitar I heard in F# that wasn't a 8 and still sounds like a monster yet very clear and articulate. You'd think that there would be a crap ton of vids on UA-cam about this guitar but there's not much aside from a old ass Guitar World video lol
Schecters are awesome, they aren’t stupid expensive but they are solid AF and do their job pretty well
Best tone I've heard from your vids in a long time. Nice
Literally ordered this in tha same color last Sunday, should get it tomorrow, stoked.
I just bought one of these. Too much fun. I also purchased from a local dealer. Build is REALLY good. I use it clean with effects and have gotten great results recording. For the doe it rules.
That guitar tone sounds nice! 🤘
I have this guitar. Had it for about 2 months. I have an agile 8 string and this guitar hits all the lows with way better pickups than the stock agile. So I can’t even complain about the pickups. But this guitar is my favorite. Hits all the heavy notes crisp as hell
Sounds sick that mate, great video
a buddy of mine copped one of these pretty recently (the one in blue) and man,, it's absurd how cool those geets are
For this Gretsch you can use the EMG P version. They were designed for mini humbuckers/p90 housing
I just ordered this guitar and I'm excited to try it out; I'll remember to try to boost the input on amp sims and put some tape by the bridge.
Thats a super dope axe! I’m debating between this and a PRS SE 277 for baritones at the moment
You can always route the pickup cavities for standard pickups.
Yeah, man mine also came with a loose neck pickup. I just screwed it down a little tighter. Great guitar. I tuned mine to EAEA with the stock strings and it sounds/feels great. I’m definitely gonna route out the pickup cavities and put some full sized humbuckers with pickup rings in it, though.
I have that exact guitar! My local music shop got one in and I had to snag it. I agree with you completely on those pickups though. Definitely looking to replace them at some point.
Pretty sure EMG makes 81,60, and 85s in a size that fits mini hums. Could be a way to go without re routing
6:54
This is Andrew Baena slander.
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That’s funny but is also why I ordered a JM baritone kit from precision guitar kits 😍 Andrew inspired me to build my own with his green build, especially with the scarcity of readymade options on the market. Can’t wait to put it all together when it comes here!
Gretsch stonks bouta go ⬆️📈
2nd time I've heard of these under high gain for metal. They are neat. I think for 600-700 chapman has 2 baritones available. The ml1 standard and the ml3 Bea standard. Would love to hear you jam on one of those
I picked up this guitar just over a month ago and I love it. The comments on the string crosstalk are true tho. I will say the pickups weren't as big of a deal to me and maybe its something with his guitar. They are lower output if youre used to active pickups but they werent so bad that it made me look at the guitar differently. I have several guitars and all of them have such wildly different output levels that having to turn one up in my DAW to me is a non issue.
I will say that for 599 i challenge you to find a guitar with better build quality. the components, fit, and finish are immaculate. The guitar feels great, the fretwork is better than my $900 ibanez, the body is comfortable, and the guitar had 0 blemishes.
Amazing song to do a demo with!
Question here - why did you have to compensate in the VST with a +6dB boost? Usually whenever I start tracking guitar I make sure that my audio interface is set up with the input gain set correctly. I do this with every guitar since thy have different ranges of output. And the reason why you would want to do that is simple - when switching vst plugins say from gojira to nolly or tse or whatever, your sound capture would still be at the right input value. I think the guitar sounds sick I would not change anything about it. But yeah it also depends how much postprocessing you know you had to do. If you did substantial cuts then i get it.
Looking at the surrounds of the mini humbuckers, it looks like they've routed put enough space around the pickup to be able to drop a full-size humbucker in place? Obviously correct me if I'm wrong, I've not seen one in person but the actual routing around the pickups does look particularly oversized
that break down at 1:51 slappssssss
Played a similar model at Long and McQuade , or maybe it was the same . Not sure . I know it was a hair below being considered a bass in terms of scale length . Had some black sparkle finish . Thing felt fucking sick , really nice and extremely light .
I use this for rock music and the pick ups are perfect for that
I have an older Ltd viper baritone. I still haven’t found one I like more lol, it’s the old one with the emg hz pickups.
Let me get that JP150 vid ASAP so I can decide whether to buy it or not! Great content as always.
Soon! Just getting it set up for Drop B right now should have it back this weekend and then I'll get to work
So cool!
The pickups sound great imo. Low output is better for boosts, drives and dirt again opinion but I don’t use ultra high gain amps or high gain tones
Cover suggestion for your new axe. “Welcome to the Djungle”
I've got a Chapman ML1 Baritone and theyre pretty sick too mate
If you are looking for pickup replacements I believe Seymour Duncan makes their own variant of the Gretsch pickups. The Seymour Duncan Psyclone might be a good fit. The Full’tron or Broad’tron might also be good. I haven’t really compared their dimensions however.
If you just wanna keep it, I have heard of people placing foam under the pickups to raise the height, or adjusting string gauges.
But I know this was over a year ago so I’m curious if you ended up selling it or how you ended up modifying it.
A good mini bridge humbucker replacement would probably be the Tim Henson signature Dimarzio pickup, if u wanna take a look at that.
IDK how much higher output they are but Paul Gilbert uses mini humbuckers in his new signature Ibanez and they are available on Dimarzio's site and sweetwater. Maybe you could do a video shooting out a few minihumbuckers for metal since there are so few options!!?
I just bought a schecter C1 baritone from letgo or whatever it is now but yeah I love it!
if gretch made a 7 string, that would be bad ass
Yessss
Ibanez made a 7-string hollow body guitar which is the closest you can get to a 7-string Gretsch.
They had one in the late 60's.
What tone did you use for the demo mix you played?
Hi Andrew
Could you put your Demo out as a backing a backing track. It sounds really awesome, and would be fun to improvise along to.
Check out the subzero rogue IV baritone, that might be more what your after
What about the Subzero Rogue VI?
You tried a Chapman baritone? I recently got one and it feels really nice for the money.
I just got a baritone Yamaha guitar do you have any advice on setting it up
My dude really forgot to include the model number (this matters)
It's a G5260 and the G5260T has the Bigsby on it
For Fishman users, looks like those pickup cavity dimensions are the same or close in size to a soapbar 7 set.
erik bickerstaffe from loathe uses one, sounds mental
How do you get that ambient sound in the background at 1:36?
Please get a Subzero Rogue VI and do a review of it!
Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻
The only mini buckers kinda lost me! Kinda hard to find a decent affordable baritone these days!
Dude you should do a Warmoth baritone build. Their baritone necks are 28 5/8 (as are their seven strings)
I've already done a baritone kit build!
@@BaenaCarcosa but not a Warmoth baritone build 🤔🤣
I got my first baritone last month, the chapman ml1 one, shit slaps
This has me wondering if the dimarzio tim henson sig mini humbucker would sound good for low tunings
Yo this is the best distorted tone you've had in awhile. Hands down.
I agree. It's the extra bass frequencies on this guitar. Andrew has lots of djenty sounding guitars & this one is anything but. I love mine.
Andrew look for a set of lace sensor mini humbuckers I’ve been wanting to try them but haven’t been able to find them they look promising or dimarzio and Seymour Duncan makes some emg makes some Lollar makes them too look at the specs and see which ones you’d like
what are your thoughts of this in comparison to the paranormal squire baritone?
Yooooo I just got the same guitar like a week ago haha. Only difference is mines got a different bridge with some sort of whammy bar (bigsby I think? I’m not good with specs sorry) but this things insane. All sorts of dope ways to experiment with it
Personally, I love using a boost before my amp (or computer, as your case) - the most successful one I've used is an old DOD 210 FET preamp.
Nothing wrong with low output pickups.
im trying to decide if i shoud buy one of thoes or a subZero rouge vi
Try the Danelectro Baritone! I am interested in your take :D
L O A T H E comments where?
I mean, at nearly 30in scale it's basically a bass VI... you should check out the Eastwood Hooky. ;) it'll be fun to hear that in a different context.
Have you tried the Subzero baritone? The other guitar the Loathe homies were using recently.
Looks like a guitar Chris's Cornell used to play. Sweet.
Do you pitch shift your bass guitar down to match the guitars? Or 6 string bass?
I recently ordered a LTD Viper Baritone Guitar
Likewise. Ordered a B stock model. Love every bit of it!
Baena is the baritone lord
Have you tried the chapman ml3-Bea baritone irtyll burst? That definitely the best baritone guitar on the market
I think the Dimarzio Notorious Tim Henson pickup will probably fit and it has the output similar to a Duncan Pegasus.
I know it's not a Duncan but you should give it a try
Could I stick a set of 24-84 strings on this for double drop D? I got a subzero rogue, it’s great, but pickups are very fat, and it’s not the ‘nicest’ feeling guitar. Would love to have a different sounding baritone that I can pair with the humbuckers for recording too!
Tones are like Shadow of the Colossus! Damn I’d buy this.
*EDIT* saw the rest of the video. Yea n/m lol
Got to love a bit of chapel 🤘🏻⚡️
Have you tried the PRS baritone?
You can replace the bridge pickup with the dimarzio tim henson mini humbucker
Harley benton has the guitarbass for around $200, worth a look?
GE-7 will do you wonders with your pickup issue.
I love mine
You should try the subzero jazz master baritone. It has a 30 inch scale length and comes stuck with normal humbuckers
Agreed. I've heard alotta good about the Rogue VI, especially for the price, tho I've also not really been able to find em available much
@@themorrigan1312 yeah the second I saw one of the guitarist from loath playing I was like “yeah these will be out of stock soon” 😂
I own one they are awesome needs work put into it but very solid.
I’m surprised you don’t have have a sub zero baritone yet. With your love of jazz masters and low tune instruments the sub is a dream for someone like you. I own one plays better than the squire if you put the work into it.
Second this. The subzero rogue vi is a beast (after quite a bit of work)
@@Dan-vb7lz what type of work needs to done on it? I'm curious about it
What type of work would you suggest to put into it?
@@wanlilu1680 it needed a LOT of fret work, the electronics leave a lot to be desired so I replaced the pots and jack and rewired it all, and the tuners were swapped out
I second that the fret board feels kinda cheap it needs to be leveled crowed and polished sand the back of the neck with 320 grit sand paper than use steel wool and put a small amount a bees wax to give it a nice smooth finish. Than the electronics need a update new pots jack switches the pickups are okay but a good set of Duncan’s will go far and long ways for this. End with replacing the tuners the stock ones suck big time any locking tuners will do
You can Carve out the cavity for humbuckers. Unless you want to keep your tampons in the cavity without routing it out.
You must wear a flannel shirt while playing the Gretch. It's only right that you do...Nice vid 🤘🏼🖤
What kind of speaker does this require?
Could maybe fit a P90 size pickup in those routes?
Andrew, you know you can just raise your preamp volume right?
You could get some P90s for it cause they’d fit in mini humbuckers routes
Quick buy on before they go up thanks Andrew lmao