Attack From The Skies: Best Bombers for Mixed Battles
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- In Mixed Battles, bombers can be quite tricky to use effectively. Heavy aircraft carrying dozens of bombs are often way too slow and way too sluggish to keep up with the frantic action on the ground. Nevertheless, there are some bombers that do really well even in this challenging environment, and that’s exactly what we are going to discuss today.
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All the bombers need to be reworked. The gunners are completely useless, there's no survivability when it comes to taking fire, sealing fuel tanks and extinguishers do not work. I've had players fly within 3 feet of my plane and the gunners never reacted.
The copy of the game on Roblox having working gunners: I have not such weaknesses
Well not all, mostly needs some reworks
They should activate between 300-600m. But it depends on your crew skill especially the number of expirienced gunners, seeing as that mandates hoe many of your gunners actually use crew stats.
Secondly people learn where the gunners are on your plane and might be able to get close just by being outside their range, or by shooting them before getting close
B-25 is pain.
Also they need to reduce the repair cost, or remove them at all from the game.
Bombers need functional gunners, it's completely unclear how or why the AI is triggered to respond to some enemy aircraft but not others. They should consistently use a voice alert when an enemy aircraft approaches 1km and automatically point their guns at it, then engage at 400m to 800m depending upon crew skill.
I almost second this.
Also a Naval-Battles mechanic whereby the player can assign guns to specific targets, x1 to x3 I guess, could be used.
As you said, sometimes the AI gunners do not respond to an approaching threat. However, this mechanic can make the AI gunners to do so.
MY AI GUNNERES DONT EVEN DO ANYTHING@@farhadnikzad1514
AI bomber gunners have no trouble doing this but yeah, it’s a waste of crew xp to train bomber crews.
0:28 The Swedish version of the Ju-86 is the B3C, not the B18B
I am just in awe of how, exactly, they mixed this up. They are not very similar apart from both having two engines.
@@theol.1988 Same dude
I think they would have said the ju88 prolly written wrong in the script
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@@bird6107 I was just pointing that out bruh, don't be an idiot
check tim's variety, he proposed a few changes that could really help bombers to enjoy their role
Lancaster. It's a guaranteed game-ender.
(when you blast half your team who facerush a cap that you TOLD you're dropping the funny bomb onto and you get instakicked for teamkilling)
sadly the french one has a different loadout😢
Stukas are also very nice. Especially for beginners, you have a really good Bomb that is easy to aim, perfect for precise strikes against enemy defenses!
I dont really recommend the stuka for beginners, it has a huge bomb but when you drop it, the bomb has a delay meaning you cant drop it accurately without crashing (if you cant drop a bomb at higher altitudes) i recommend more maneuverable planes for cas beginners, like the bf109
Only 1 time use if you exceed the speed limit
@@snickersmyknickers5120 yes, but it has breaks and a bomb that has good flight performance. You can easily learn high altitude dropping with it. It was my first bomber i used in ground rb and as i switched to the P47 i was able to precisely bomb at 1km altitude
I love good strategic bombers! Even if they are sometimes harder to play, I would love to see some high/top tier bombers like the B52, Tu95, Vulcan, and even possibly the B1 lancer and the Soviet equivalent
The Tu-95 is basically useless, since it can only be used to carry 50 Megatons nuclear bombs, maybe the Myasischev M4 would be better (B52 but in WW2)
@@SCPFoundationistM4 my beloved 😳
@SCPFoundationist pffft, 48x FAB-250 and a FAB-9000 lolling
A 52 could delete an entire Map, without a Nucelar Bomb
@@tplays6688 What about the Myasischev M4? It can do the same, but, you know, Russian Bias
CAS, Gaijin's favorite child
There was this plane... the SU-6... a brilliant light bomber/attacker, that could compete with many fighters... It had 2x 7.62mm, 2x 37mm and 6x 100 kg bombs. And then you had the brilliant idea to nerf it down from the skies...
It's still amazing bro what
That's more of an attacker rather than a bomber used of tactical purposes tho
Personally, I don't play much mix battles, but there was once in Air RB, while flying my Tu-2, half of my right wind was shot off and one of my engnines was on fire, but I magically returned to base and got repaired. It's a very reliable bomber
Bane of spookston's existance.
I think Do 217 bomber variants definitely deserve a mention here with their 4x 1000 kg bomb load and E variants also have offensive 20 mm cannon. You need to make sure to drop at least one (optimally 2) of those bombs on the way in, otherwise it turns like a brick. It is an excellent bomber to destroy a lot of tanks in a short period, but it's overshadowed by the universality of Fw 190 F-8 and especially by the disgustingly OP Ju 288 C (seems like some premium vehicles are just meant to be OP...).
This is a silly choice but I recommend whoever has the Camberra B.2 and try to troll with the 4,000 pound bomb. It has a bomb sight and decent flight models.
You can also use the Wellington, it gets a 4,000 pound bomb at 2.3 I believe.
Decent flight model? Ive won so many dogfights against mig 15s, and not just any dogfights, 2v1 or more!
good that your doing more tutorials
Do you plan to add the Avro Vulcan or the Handley Page Victor or the Vickers Valiant in future updates?
YES the V-Bombers!
They already said that their role would be very different than in real life and would'nt be able to be competitive.
I personally think that they world need a 3-hour long gamemode to be able to shine.
They are simply not planed.
will you ever give us settings so we can preset our radars so we dont need to tune them every match
You left out the Peshka, one of the best dive bombers in game.
P1Y1, (its a huge slap in the face that its no longer rank 4) and B-26; (various trees), both good for naval and tank mixed battles. Also the Russian A-20 is classified as a bomber and can carry up to 2 x 1000kg bombs or even 2 torpedo, and any of the single engine Japanese bombers can be a bane to anything.
My absolute first pick is Tu2 series, very nimble for a bomber, good defense and offense.
Finally the swedish b18 gets some recognition
Gaijin are you planing to rework bomb smoke clouds again they look nice sure but i feel like 1000kg and bigger bombs should get mushroom clouds since most big explosion turns into a mushroom cloud when explode
I miss when the Tu-2 can carry 4 500kg bombs, 2 in the bomb bay and 2 on the outer pylon, that's a guaranteed 4 kills. Now you can only bring one 500kg in the bomb bay :(. The 1000kg is nice but most of the time it's too strong for its own good, because they way you play the Tu-2 is you go low, you need to put the bomb delay on 1 sec or more to not get damaged by the 1000kg bombs
Try the 9 100kg they are really good but aim close or drop 2 per target and 2 1000kg or 500kg and that's 5+ per match , I once got 9 by the same preset
That's actually a pretty good idea. With that preset you can effectively kill light targets with the 100s and kill heavy target or multiple with the 1000s. Thanks for the tips!
@fousca it's my favourite cas so i know how to use it Wisley and you are welcome buddy 😊
Honestly the SB2U3 with the right modifications is really good in mixed
a-20g is deceptively good at its br (yes ik it's technically a strike aircraft). It can take a lot of damage, has estinguishers, and also can shoot enemy planes down. Ju-188 is also very fun.
lancaster seeing any ground vehicle in Ground RB: Is for me?
Pe8 with the FAB-5000 when it sees an M22:
Is for me? 👉👈
Teammates on the ground:
Is for me too..
Make a video for best fighter ground attack aircraft.
3:00 I love how they include the 288 and not the 188 simply because the 288 is just pay to win and better in every regaurd compared to the 188.
Better bombs, engines, and it gets an airspawn aswell as boosters if it _does_ spawn on the ground
0:34 is the B18 really a Variant of the Junkers 86? I thought the B18 was developed by Saab in Sweden.The B3C is a licensed variant of the Junkers 86, it is found in rank I
The brigand b1 is underrated, it has 3 bombs if youre good you get 3 guaranteed kills, and i think 16 RP3 rockets, wich at that br doesnt need a direct hit to kill a tank from its explosive mass, not to mention the 4 nose mounted 20mm hispano, it has more than enough ammo to get 5 kills. And when an enemy plane is chasing you, just ask a teammate to cover you, i.e. an spaa or a friendly fighter
It's much better now than it was a couple of years ago. The reduction in BR was well-deserved (was 4.7 when I spaded it) and the addition of custom load outs means you can carry a silly amount of ordnance.
Brigand is trash compared to the Tempest.
It has a big payload, but handles like a brick.
@@SD78 yeah thats the downside, but you should never spawn the brigand when theres enemy planes, only spawn when theres friendly fighters doing anti cas stuff, but without them, i just spawn the typhoon
@@i_like_plen Tempest is better for ground attack too, because it gets on target so fast and the bombs are on central pylons, instead of being mounted miles apart.
@@SD78 tempest has the speed of an early jet but a turnrate of a prop, but the tempest is at 5.7 while the typhoon is only 4.3 major br difference
I love the tu-2. I think it should even be classified as a strike aircraft. and not purely as a bomber. It's very fast for it's size.
Darn thought this was a tittle for an update :(
When will you guys add bomber cockpits
Hello Gaijin, how are you?
I have a question for you, is it possible in a vehicle to take cover from bomb blasts in any forms of lower grounds, if the bomb explode on a hill or any sorts of higher terrain?
Well I personally want to mention the F4U-4B a very good bomber/fighter
I went with wellingtons 4000, now Lancaster’s 12000, but I have used the beaufighter 21
Cold
Tu2 is really good CAS and really underrated
The AI gunners in bombers should YELL if any enemy is approaching - or at least - yell when an enemy is opening fire. What if the player in the bomb-sight mode and he is distracted?
Video definitely should've mentioned antishipping roles since that's also combined arms ntm the list would be slightly different then again it makes sense to not not mention those when the narrator/ script writers can't pick up a mistake lke with the SAAB B18 apparently being a Junkers 86 (totally not the SAAB B3C).
Finally a update for BOMBS
Thanks for reminding me that the JU-288 exists now i will be inn a blind rage for the rest of the day.
Why you didn’t mention the arado 234 b2 with one of the best flight characteristics and a solid payload which outruns every prop at it’s br?
B52 and tu95 could be cool 😎
Strategic bombers definitively do not fit as playable vehicles imo, but if they reworked AI and improved Enduring Confrotation modes, they'd definitively have it's place.
Tbh I feel like the b29 is too up tiered since there's a tracking radar on spaa's mean while the Lancaster and pe-8 is on a lower br
Wellington with 4000lb bomb is my favourite
How about adding a proximity voice chat and make it like a real radio voice or a channel for the team or for close enemy in ground and air
There is already a voice chat function in game, however it is rarely used.
could you do a version with jets too thx
Would something like the hellcat be better than the sb2c since it can carry more bombs and rockets but missed put on the 20mm cannons. I am just wondering what to research. (Looking for a American strike aircraft for a 3.0 to 4.0 lineup)
Yeah
20mm can disable tanks but are not relible enough, and flight performance makes up for it heavily against planes
@@przeterminator3453would the p63 maybe be even better? For reference I am loving the p51 and just got the 1000pounders on the f6f 5and it’s a pain honestly.
Bombers is very good!
We should get a top tier striker with defensive capabilities and ground pounding ammo
What is the "bomb release premission" message u get when u are in sim, and it doesn't let u drop the bombs?
Sheeeeet.... Do-217-E4. 4x 1,000 kg bombs as well as a nose mounted 20mm.
Can you add more WWII planes and tanks in the next update?
The BTD is better off taking the sea mines than the 1000 lbs. Don't be fooled by the name, they work as bombs and have more effective explosive filler, almost as much as a 2000 pounder.
you forgot the Lancaster with the 12000lb bomb
Tu2 serie bombers are masters in CAS on there respected BR
Will the transfer PlayStation Account to Pc feature be possible anytime soon? i would like to use the market.
I still use b18
My personal experience with PE-8 is the following:
KABOOOOOOM
The Bf109E😢
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Good morning
Where is the TIS MA??? How can't that one make it on the list
guys how i can do my account save when i log on my steam account? i want to buy or do smt but i cant i have too low save and i dont want to lose my progres what i can do?
#2:54 it's so funny how all three of the tanks die LOL😂
Nothing about the Mosquito or the A20
GIVE US NEW GAME MODES
No P-108?
I hate pe-8, he destoyed me many times with fab-5000
Lancaster.
12,000lb bomb annihilates two football fields.
Ich vermisse die JU-188 a2
Day 2: Can we have F-22 and Su-57 in the game *please* ?
Ghost ac130
being in a 6v1 at 5.0 because 4 of my teammates were bombers and the other teammate dies on runway
Nuce
day 38 of waiting for Polish-Czechoslovakian tech tree (i have no idea if im counting the days corectly youtube doesn't show the exact date)
Ar234B...
Gaijin give us V bombers and B-52 pleaseeeeee.
An Idea to ad bombers that are non operational like pistons or jet engines Convair b 36 Vulcan tu 16 etc really you stopped in 40s
"whats your personal experience with bombers in mixd battles?"
Planes: show up*
Me: well 8 minutes of Match in a tank seems to be the limit of fun gaijin wants me to have
Most of the Time the First Fighters show up after 2 min. Once i was playing the 2C Bis (or a Maus, T 95), and when i got to the battle, i didnt even spotted a Target yet, i got bombed by a Kamikaze Lvl 6 Stuka.
A few days ago, got into a match from the start. And around roughly 2 minutes and 30 seconds, give or take, there were already 4 planes in the air. I love playing ground battles. Oh wait did I say ground battles? I mean air battles with the ability to spawn in ground vehicles.
Excuse me but the pe8 turns on a dime
lets completely forget about the B7A
FPV drones when? Aim120s next update or a new plane like the worthless f15a while Russia gets another flanker? t90m Russian bias? No DU armor for Abrams because its not production model? Is the t90ms era upgrade a production model? just curious.
ITS ALSO STUPID THAT PLANES TAKE STEAL TOP SPOTS IN GROUND BATTLES WHEN ITS SUPPOSED TO BE GROUND BATTLES FOR **GROUND VEHICLES**
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I mean, naval and ground battles are all mixed battles.
I mean, if they remove aircraft from mixed battles, they have to rework the BR system. Every AA would be much lower, super heavys, open tops etc. Would be much higher in the BR and it would destroy the gameplay.
The best way to destroy dominating enemys are aircrafts. It‘s also often the case that a team takes all points and destroys the entire team but with good cas-support they can turn the game instantly, otherwise most games would be decided after 3-5 minutes.
War Thunder was always a game that mixed the battlefield, if you don‘t like it, play WoT
@@triko03 YEAH BUT NOT ALWAYS..
WHEN YOU ARE FACING ENTIRE ENEMY TEAMS ALONE BECAUSE OF ONE TIME SPAWNERS AND TEAM ARE IN PLANES CONSTANTLY LEAVING BATTLESPACE TO RELOAD..
ITS QUITE THE OPPOSITE THAT PLANES ARE NEGATIVE TO GROUND BATTLES
(THERES AIR BATTLES AND NAVAL BATTLES FOR PLANES)
@@bren2385 Naval battles are pretty much the same a bit more extreme in my opinion actually.
But it won‘t solve the problem that groundbattles without aircraft need completely new BRs. A Maus can‘t be on 7.7 anymore, it would be way to op but on 8.0 it will be useless. The M18 would be probably 6.0, every AA that is not special or good against tanks is like 1.0-3.0 (that includes even modern AA that has only rockets). I mean WT is not the most balanced game, but that would destroy the balancing completely. Maybe spawnpoints should be increased for Aircraft or you spend some of your spawn points per minute while being in an aircraft, so you have to be useful for the team. That would lead to more aggressive CAS with high risk, could be cool too
@@triko03 THINK FOR ANY DESCENT PILOT ITS EASY JUST PICKING OFF TARGETS LIKE SITTING DUCKS ..
AND AS SOMEONE WHO SELECTED GROUND BATTLES TO PLAY TANKS YOU FEEL LIKE A SITTING DUCK ..
I AM A SITTING DUCK
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@@triko03 LESS PLANES IN GROUND BATTLES AS PLANES ARE ALREADY IN AIR BATTLES AND NAVAL..
IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE LIKE HAVING AIR CAPTURE POINTS BUT ALLOWING PLAYERS TO SIT UNDERNEATH WITH AA
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Please gaijin buff the bombers so they can be competitive in high tiers
for ARB, bombers are sitting ducks to fighters (A2D-1 for example); poor co-op of players who are also llooking for action.
wheres the B-29
Even not fighter jet 😢
See GROUND realistic battles
Look inside
Planes
What happened to mentioning any British bombers in this video.
Why did you nerf the Ju 88 it had 28x 50kg bombs + 2 500kg .. now you cant have the same loadout
Ju-88A's switched to custom loadout system previously used by jets, you just need to recreate the old loadout using that.
Make ground battles without planes or make cas spawn costs higher
no
@@el_Contra ok
They won't cause it will hurt their precious money they make off of premium cas vehicles. With how quickly planes get into the air in ground battles, I rarely even call it ground battles anymore. I just refer to it as air battles with the ability to spawn in ground vehicles whenever I talk to my friends about it. Cause that is all it is at this point.
@@grimalkin6676 I would have to disagree when you say that the best cas vehicles are premium... the most lethal and effective cas are in the regular tech trees, such as the arado for Germany, the French corsair etc... Also, planes quickly get into the air so long as certain conditions are met... if there are many planes out there, you can always get some AAs which have the cheapest spawn points, and do some sky clean up (AA's are extremely effective against planes)
@@el_Contra aa limits ground capability so much and is hardly rewarding, as much as i love playing them its not fun or effective for getting any rp. cas is so much more powerful and rewarding that it makes the low spawn cost negligible but whatever feeds the snail more money i suppose
ar 234 b.2
basement guy still alive? i hope so
Best bomber in RB is Bf109 with 4x50kg bombs. If you know how to aim....
Die Saab 18 hat nichts mit der Junkers 86 (B3) zu tun.😊
Pls add decorations and bushes on war thunder mobile
Pe, 8 best and can we have big bumps like Russia like pe 8
Hello Snail HQ, I wanted to ask if you could putt WT Mobile on the Switch, because World of Tanks Blitz is also on the Switch and I don’t think you want your biggest rival to win on the Switchmarked. I know you may not reed this at the first time so I will ask you under each of your videos until you make it happen! Today is Day 65!
gaijin you know how unfun and and utterly bad the bomber system is please dont pretend its not