Is Fat Joe LYING About "Notorious Thugs"? [FULL BREAKDOWN]
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After watching this video, Is Joe capping?
I think your journalistic work answers the question Panda😂. 🫡🫡
Joe is Crazy Capping 🧢
@@timothywilson5933 Joe probably ain’t lying about this but come on dude be lying 😂😂😂
I hate trick questions, mane! 😎
Fulusional joe!!
The same Joe who said he was doing an album with Biggie and they had recorded songs for it ..the same Joe who told Jadakiss on camera that he wrote the hook for the song Señorita for Puffy ..the same Joe who said he gave Liza a million dollars and could not prove it in court...
same joe who said even when he was 15 he kept 20,000 in his pocket meanwhile said he had to stick up a supermarket to help charlie rock in prison.
why would he have to stick up a supermarket to help charlie rock when he always kept 20,000 in his pocket?
these liars dont even know how to lie.
He a fat sloppy crab!
Lil Joey got a better imagination than Steven Spielberg
Cuban Link wrote that hook for Señorita
He’s ass .. Cuban link and big pun where the ones that carried terror squad .. tiny sunshine wit the hooks
i beleive joe even though he might be exaggerating. he is a narcissist and they make things bigger than it is always.
Dude is capper
Ny state of mind
Nah noticed how the second guy was able to recall who's name and who said what? Joe ain't have none of that and that's one of many ways you can tell someone lying. Joe darts his eyes. He's practice telling those lies.
You know how uncomfortable it is when someone is lying in ur face and u both know. 😅😂 how do you say something
Fat Joe is Such a Phony Liar 🤥 “ Little Joey is Cappiiiiin” - Charlie Rock LD 😂
I see exactly what happened. Joe spoke to them about doing it. The managers and label handled the business part. Nobody is lying.
I think he made the call to Steve lobel but as far as the having to convince them to do it cuz of their loyalty to 2pac idk about that cuz why would Steve lobel say they didn’t need to be convinced and Layzie say that as well
📞 "Steve tell your guys they need to do this, it's historic" - absolutely something I could imagine Joe saying
Same thing happened with his pitbull story, he said he discovered pitbull and put him on while uncle Luke came and claimed that he put pitbull on. They engaged on ig live and concluded that both of them was telling the truth.
exactly bro
The cap king strikes again 😂
@Anais Morena he has stories upon stories lol
😂😂😂😂 Him and Master P are fighting for that title
Snoop is the Cap Prince then
LETS LIE, LETS LIE,😂😂😂
😂😂😂
There is a difference between a Legend and a Veteran in Hip Hop!
Joe is a Veteran!
Pun is a Legend!
This is true facts
I do agree joe definitely a fucking liar but nah he a legend too man
Joe would admit that himself
@@emoney7257 no he wouldn’t. Cause if that was the case he wouldn’t be lying about arranging bone & big to do a collaboration. That man lies about every & anything just to make himself look good. Period!
@@AlexandriaXiques 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
If you from the streets…NUMBER ONE RULE IS YOU NEVER TELL WHO YOUR PLUG IS
This dude be lying
Watch the whole thing man
This shouldn't even be a discussion because Bone thugs admitted it in an interview with Joe on this video. You got to find somebody else to go after my man.
Thought I was the only one smh . I don’t get what’s there to question. Even they manager said Joe called em first 🤷🏽♂️
Damn…thought I was going crazy lol
Exactly! Down Voted!
If it's to much don't watch it lmfao. You knew who this about.
They didn’t admit anything. They just didn’t contradict him because what’s the point. You’re sounding real Stan-ish, my g.
Public apology would be nice to puns kids ✌️
I am glad I was not the only one noticing this unconsistency of story telling over the years! Thanks Panda for the breakdown and pointing this out to the people!
Bro that’s all I was trying to do is point out the inconsistency. I’m not even saying Joe is lying cuz Bone could be because they don’t want to say they were reluctant to do the song with Big but they did say Big saved them previously and they had somewhat of a relationship with him. So idk it’s just weird.
Inconsistency btw🙏
Lil joey capping, RIP Charlie Rock LD we in da yard!
Angie got em 😆
I wasn't even looking at the screen while Angie was talking to Joe but by the tone of her voice it seems to me that she might be thinking Joe sounds like a pathological liar. Edit: Joe didn't exactly lie he just exaggerated and put himself into it more than he actually was.
Lol so what is exaggeration 🤔
So that means he lied bro , he just mixed it with some truth but a lie is still a lie
@@lifelessons85 😆😆😆😆😆
Fat Joe got “LieABetes” Fat Joe’s Lieabetic 😂
No he's not. He interviewed them on his own Podcast and mentioned the same thing to Bone. Neither of them denied it then.
Bro fat Joe biggest fraud 😂😂
First it was he gave Pun's wife 2 mill, then he got Trick Daddy his record deal, then he was about to do a album with Big and he was always in the studio with Big and now he's the reason for Bone doing the song with Big! This dude cap 🧢 more than New Era!!!! It's crazy!!!!
If he works so much with biggie where is his songs with bigge he not on any biggie songs and biggie never on his. Biggie never said his name on his songs and joe never said his
@@turtleanton6539they were gonna form a group the 4 horsemen.
@@turtleanton6539label drama back then stopped that from happening
He gave her the $1M advance from the Endangered Species album...that he had to call in a few favors to put together.
Joe even lied about a story that Bizzy had a boom box playing Michael Jackson and had groupies follow him to a room when he asked Bizzy about that, Bizzy was like “idk about that but it sounds good”
Now that probably was fact because you know bizzy didn’t and still don’t have it all so he probably was lmaooo
Bizzy was high out his mind! He don’t remember that shit! Lol
It's the truth bizzy did remember that. Some of the stuff he didn't buy most he did. And plus B. Married so he ain't trying to bring up a whole lot anyways.
Fun Fact - Fat Joe is in the Mo Thugs Thug Devotion video
Really???? I have an official mo thug vhs (I copied it to dvd) that has that video and don't remember that... I'm going to have to check that out!!!!
What he talking about NY was not up on bone yet?😂 all of America new who bone was before notorious thugs
NY wasn’t listening to nobody outside of NY. Yes y’all had no choice but to hear a bone song on the radio but y’all was NOT listening to East 99 Eternal and definitely didn’t not listen to their first album lol 🧢
@@OMGWorld100 bro this is stupid and wrong lol 😂
This is just too much 😆
Why too much?
I think joe may have been the reason puff connected with steve & i think maybe a member or 2 felt the way Joe is saying. Maybe he's embellishing on how much the guys cared about the rift between pac and big. I think both stories can be true. Joe is just putting extra sauce on how concerned bone was just to make his part feel that much more important.
Critical thinking here.
@J.R. Spliff 212 thanks
Never met an old head talk so much about himself
I will say this.. back in 95 fat Joe had a store..i remember watching on bet where he did shout out bone thugs. And this was then they just started to pop. I don’t even think crossroads dropped at this specific time. .. idk lol 😂
Joe is the cap king
Captain and King is a little redundant.
According to Charlie Rock, Joe lying bout doing a song with Biggie so I believe he’s lying bout this
I don't believe anything Joe says he also said he made a album with biggie that nobodys ever heard
Sometimes it be the people who don't drink or smoke who have the most F'ed up memory either that or he's a narcissist
Intro got me dying 😂😂😂
😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏
Team Joe.
Credible sources have backed him up historically. His stories valid.
Down to the Mike Tyson, Big Pun and Fat Joe story.
Those pics of biggie and everybody in the studio is crazy dope. Big was such a force in hiphop!!!!!!!
💯💯💯💪💪💪
Let's lie, let's lie, let's lie, we lie! 😂😂😂
I don't care for FJ... but the proof is where he interviews them (BTAH) directly and they confirmed... If it were a lie... they as MEN should have pointed it out right then and there!
How is Joe Capping if in their Face he said the story and they agreed with him
Joe helped broker the deal when Michael Jackson bought the Beatles catalogue.
And TK Kirkland was the one that told him to do it
He is trying his best to rewrite hip-hop. That's his Caucasian slave master side coming out
"LITTLE JOEY WE KNOW YOU" " YOU CAPPING MY MAN" CRLD 👑... 😂😂😂
Y’all gotta remember. There are 5 members in Bone & they only talked to Layzie on the new show. It wouldn’t surprise me that if you asked Bizzy he’d agree with what Joe said. Steve said Joe called & said Puffy was calling. Which means there were prior phone calls made between Joe with Bone,Big, & most likely Puff.
That could be a possibility. The main inconsistency to me is the “I had to convince you guys to do it cuz of your loyalty to Pac” and them only agreeing when he talks to them but in individual interviews they don’t bring that up or him up. I think the most likely story is that Joe did have a role but not as much as he said. I mean Bone could be lying. You never know.
@PANDA CHOP! News that's a big cap for sure. Its on record that Bone was tight with everyone.. maybe not Memphis at the time lol but East and West, yes
all i can say is, it looked like Bone was put on the spot & didn't want to call Joe a liar on camera.
Fat Joe is the Dr. Seuss/Hans Christian Andersen of Hip Hop! Always "storytelling", sometimes it rhymes!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Damn! Ok, Joe, we believe you! Jesus Christ!!!!?😂😂😂😂😂
How'd you do it? Umm.... I just made them do it....Oh...ok 🤦🏾♂🤣
I think Joe lying because of the fact Bone and Biggie song came out 8-9 months before the Tupac and Bone song came out and technically Tupac never recorded with Bone, he did a song with Bizzy and Sylk-E. Fyne and DJ Uneek later changed the beat took Sylk-E. Fyne vocals off and added Krayzie, Layzie and Wish Bone lyrics and Thug Luv was born
Yeah biz and pac did last mfk breathing after thug luv. That shit crazy
@KingHoDoKaN nah Bizzy never did that track with Pac. He was on the Confessions remix of Breathin by Johnny J. The original Breathin features Yaki Kadafi, Edi, Sylk E Fyne, Diamond and another female rapper. You can find that online as well as a incomplete version with a extra unreleased Pac verse
Thank you for setting it straight 👍🏾
Like some have said, Joe couldn't have called and spoke with all 5 members. He likely had a convo with 1 member and mentioned it, then later Steve Lobel set it up, and Joe thinks he made it happen!
Hes always giving Bone props when he mentions it tho and its like they kinda just roll with it and smile, but notice how they never add to his story and always mention Lobels name in there but dont elaborate, like their tryna get him to catch the hint.. 😂
Kinda like when u had a crazy or hyper friend growing up that included themselves in a story and acted like they helped out in some way just because they were around at the time and u just go along with the story due to how excited they are.
They got love for Fat Joe...
TK Kirkland - “I was there, I seen & heard everything. This man tells no lies”
Layzie Bone Says They Had Neutral Relationships With B.I.G & Pac Because They We’re Fans Of Their Music 😂 Joe Is The Biggest Capper In Hip Hop With His Stories. Same Guy Who Said. Pop Smoke , Dave East , Fabolous Are Latin Rappers 🤣💀
They are tho 😂🤣🤣
idk about Pop Smoke and Dave East but Fabolous is dominican lmao
@@emiliorebenga443 Name Some Latin Songs By Them I’ll Wait Then Go Look Up Latin Artist 💀💀
@@mariodude345 His Mother Is Black And Father Is Dominican So Do That Make Him Dominican Even Tho He Considers Himself African American 💀
Lol😂look at they faces when he said I had to go hard on y’all
You could tell he was lying when Angie asked him for details on what he said to convince them to do the song and Joe said “i told them to go do the song with biggie.. i don’t know how to explain it in any other language..they’ve confirmed..the happiest people in the world have confirmed this”. The fact that he got defensive and had to explain how it was confirmed rather than explain what he said was a huge tell. She wasn’t asking him to prove it really happened but that’s how Joe took it because he knows it didn’t.
Here is the issue with this. 2Pac's Thug Luv track wasn't even released until after Pac was dead. No one really knew Bone Thugs recorded with Pac. Infact it wasn't even Bone Thugs that did the track with Pac. It was Bizzy Bone and Sylk E Fyne. The rest of the group was added on the remix after Pac was dead. Bizzy Bone also said how he didn't know they were changing it into a group record like that and he felt hurt because they removed Sylk who actually was the person that got the song made. So why would the group be mad when they didn't even record with Pac and Pac was already gone by the time the Notorious Thugs session happened, as well as Thug Luv not even released by that time.
Joe definitely was capping about the Pac part, but maybe he did make a call to set up a collab
why isn’t this called fat joe and fat joe’s former lackies news 😂😂😂😂 or “ppl who think their entire life is shit because of fat joe news” 😂😂😂
I dont think Joe is 🧢’n. He had bone on his show years ago and they confirmed it. That was so long ago and you gotta remember it was so much weed smoke and alcohol back then you’re not gonna remember EVERY single detail. I’m sure bone probably doesn’t remember until Joe brings it back up. Some details like that can be forgotten
I didn’t say outright capping but bone has done so many interviews about this and never mention Joe unless he’s the one interviewing. I just think it’s weird/unclear but the main thing is bone keep saying they didn’t hesitate to do the song with Big but Joe saying they needed convincing. Steve lobel saying they didn’t take sides either.
@@pandachopnews right but out of respect for Big since he’s dead they probably don’t bring that up OR they probably genuinely don’t remember it til Joe brings it up. Like i said, it was years ago and they were all living that rockstar life so some things you can forget. But it could also be something that they don’t want to bring up to stray away from the drama between pac and big
The answer is always YES! If we asking about Joe and lying
So to add, Joe was like "naw I'm not waking up today" and I SAID "y'all need to get up and get BONE on the track..." rest is history.
Little Joey.. Little Joey !
The pencil Beard baloogah strikes again😂
Joe the Puerto Rican TK Kirkland. LOL
Damn you got him 😂😂😂😂😂joe gonna give you a Puerto Rican 🇵🇷CHOP 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Bone n biggie is the greatest collaboration of all time. Thanks Joe !!!
He doesn't lie he stretches the truth .Steve said he got the call from Joe first , safe.
I think Joe is cappin!! They looked so nervous when he said he was the one who plugged them. Even Angie Martinez was nervous.. it felt threw on to them, I think Joe wanted to be someone bigger than what he thought of himself and maybe told them “let me say this & I’ll plug ya in for this” etc. 🤔
I highly doubt Biggie was using the slang word plug back in 1996/1997. That's the only thing missing from this great breakdown. Fat Joe has also said he did 4 songs with Biggie all about 2Pac. Then he said he did a whole album with Biggie going at 2Pac. Mind you, Lil Cease who was always around Biggie during those days said on The Art of Dialogue he knows nothing about that.
No, back then we would have said "the connect"
@@ispeakmucho You're right.
Its really not that deep bro because neither of you were there...people be working... Lol...lil cease wasn't with Biggie everywhere..
@@stacey3004 Lil Cease knows more than we do though. How do you go from 4 songs to a whole album?
PLUG been a word since the 50's ...smh....you don't have a street bone in your body.
Is amazing how Pac and Big had the same features and producer at one time...
This intro tho 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The intro is funny as hell
😂😂😂 thank you
Layzie looking at him like I don't remember that he smoked too much
😂😂😂
Joe was Bones NY homie FACTS, HE was on Flesh n Bones solo album and he featured Bone on his album Don Cartegena.
While Joe talking they looking like "Man this nigga LYING" Lol
I was with this video until the second half. At this point, it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not until Bone themselves say Joe lied.
Was just showing what I could find about it. Just think it’s weird they don’t bring him up unless he’s doing the interview. I never said he’s lying either. Maybe exaggerating but not outright lying. I don’t know
I remember an old interview when bone where asked about the east/west beef, the fat cheek guy said they wanted to jump in cause they were in the Westcoast anyway, but Cube told them to stay out of it. Facts!!!
All he had to say is that he had a little to do with the record . instead he has to make it look like he was the Peace Maker Don dotta
Speaking of cap, it's foul that Fat Joe had claimed on national TV that the basketball player in "I Got a Story to Tell" was Anthony Mason. Mase is not even here to defend himself. I remember people initially thought the player was either Starks or Allan Houston. Biggie could've made that story up for all we know.
Some people say it was starks
I’ve always herd it was about Mason...R.I.P
It was mason…… Bimmy from supreme team even said it because he said Mason tried to get him to kill Biggie
Bimmy confirmed it on MEO it was Mason
@@misternelson61 Starks even confirmed himself that it was true
Dead men tell no tales he Capin!
"Little joey" " haha" " I know you" - crock
He's about to put that story on his tombstone, they he keeps bringing it up. 😂😂
Lol I was saying the same when I seen the interview I was like someone is lying and it wasn’t Steve lol
Weird hearin a man in his 40s 50s say 'Cappin'😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s Joe and biggie biggie it’s Joe and biggie biggie 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The same Joe that said he mad the Candy Shop beat from scratch 😂 I love Joey Crack
Funny how Joe don't mention the collabs TS has with Bone Thugs - maybe because one of them has Cuban on it and he doesn't want to shine a light on that. Pun featured on 2 Bone Thugs songs 💯
You did your homework looks like Joe lied
Idk it’s just weird that they don’t give him credit unless it’s he they are talking to. They’ve done soooo many interviews about this song
"We lie, we lie" 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Bone didn't disagree with Joe, because they don't want to argue with him or offend him by disagreeing with his narrative, but they know Joe didn't get them in that studio and didn't have to convince them to do a song with B.I.G.
I dont think Joe is cappin cuz he recapped the story right to their faces. Or they scared to say something to him about it???
The laughing of bone thugs when joe started capping😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Snoop and fat joe got to be the biggest cap
JOE AKA 🧢 MASTER 😂
Angie looking at Fat Joe thinking this nigga lying
Wasn’t that off the way she even laughed tho?
The intro bro.... 😵 😂
😂😂😂
You can tell how lazy fixed his hat after saying "absolutely", yeah he was coerced imto lying. You can tell by someone tone if they want you to agree with them lying or not. This is too easy.
you can't trust joe his beard is weired
It's simple Biggie called Fat Joe, Fat Joe called Bone Manager and the song was recorded
Joe ain’t lying lying, he just putting 4 on the 10 as NYers do🤷🏾♂️
I produced like a Virgin for Madonna and it was a hit song. I'm glad that Madonna listened to me. You all believe me right?
The only thing I feel he's capping about was no one knowing BONE when they were selling millions and making hits.
I'm telling my kids Fat Joe is the "Lying" King.
I peep the whole interview to I thought it was just me Steve did say it was easy for the 🐐 and bone thugs to make the song he said bone thugs didn't have beef with nobody smh
It's possible that it happened. And they forgot. While Joe didn't. Or Joe probably just lying 😂
Lol...ON THE INTRO!
😂😂😂 appreciate you
Damn joe a legend in his own mind 😂😂😂😂he’s a legend, legendary lier, watch your back joe want your blood 🩸🫡😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe is a legend tho at the end of the day. He’s done legendary stuff regardless of all the BS. Can’t deny him that
@@pandachopnews yea, His Bro. Was my cooking 🧑🍳 partner uptop, a lot of the stuff he talk about in the book 📖 about the other bro. I know about even more, but to respect for his bro I would never say it, and also this a big reason I don’t like joe, funny thing I ain’t even know he was fat joe bro for months, till one day on bet he comes on he like look at my bro, I’m like that’s not your brother 😂😂😂💯he like bro the whole jail knows I’m fat Joe bro 😂😂😂😂we really got tight after that