Amazing Two Full Size Tower PCs Saved From E-Waste
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Let's see if these two full size tower PCs are still working after 20 - 30 years. These BIG BOYS usually have some nice surprises inside and these two are no exception. Thanks to pcbway.com for sponsoring this video.
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00:00 - First look and cards 1
08:50 - Motherboard 1
10:47 - Booting and testing 1
21:35 - PCBWay Ad
22:00 - Cards 2
24:15 - Motherboard 2
25:54 - Booting and testing 2
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The higher the tower, the better the PC.
The longer the sound card, the better the MIDI.
Tyan are still in business. They are server and workstation specialist, much like Supermicro.
Great to know.
30 seconds in, and those towers bring me back to 1992 like it's NOBODY'S business!! Thanks so much for showing these babies.. SO nice!! All my friends and I had a full tower for a few years just because they were SO cheap at computer shows (at the end of the shows we'd CLEAN HOUSE!) we were all 14 or 15 back in the early 90s and man those were the DAYS for home computers!!
What did you do with them? Anything beyond what you would have done with a mid-tower case?
@@RetroHackShackAfterHours no of course not, we were teenagers, there were 5 of us from a very small town with an even smaller school district and we were the computer geeks.. so we all outdid one another, one had a bbs and he actually used his tower, I got one free from a vendor at the Cherry Hill racetrack one show, I think I had a 486dx4100 in that with 2 cd drives 2 5 1/4 drives 2 had drives a 3.5" drive, I was totally pointless to have for any of us, but it was COOL. There was a guy in town who had a pc business, he worked on the local area pcs of the day (it was a different time in the early 90s, people didn't 'know' computers kinda like there's UA-cam today) so you needed someone who knew how to overclock a 386sx25 with jumpers, make it run at 40mhz and glue a heatsink on top of the cpu.. I digress, it was totally pointless to have and how big those things were they only lasted maybe a year or so, then back to mid-towers. Then ATX came out and that changed the whole show for everyone.. Ah AT cases.. the joy running all that stuff on 200 watts or less.. Good times!
I was 13 in 1995 so I was blessed to be growing up in this era
The Dual CPU System needs a second CPU and Windows NT 4 to make full use. Oh and perhaps max out the RAM for good measure 😁👍
Good idea
@@RetroHackShackAfterHours Also, no such thing as a 125MHz Pentium... it has a 2.5X multiplier and is on 50MHz, so it is either meant to be 2.5x 60 or 66 (150 or 166MHz)
Dosdays, Audiopci will direct you to a DOS driver for the PCI128, but it requires EMM386 which limits compatibility with games that use an incompatible memory manager
Cool. I'll check it out.
Windows 2000 is way more usable and lightweight enough for it to make sense. I recently went through this with NT 4. I LOVED NT 4.0 but not having USB support is terrible.
@@MagMan4x4
Personally I loved Windows 2000. So amazing after using Windows 9x. But is it retro enough? 😉🤷♂️
8:32 - That poor little spider hanging off the cap above the 2nd pin for dear life. :D
26:22 for the sparks
Remember working in a stor here in Sweden repairing PC´s and we got a PC in that needed fixing and my co-worker hooked it in pushed the power button and you heard like a very loud sound almost light the liggning hit down inside and we saw like a big blue arch and then the store went completely dark. And I will tell you I almost had to change pants had to rush to the toilet because I nearly shat my self.
Anyway awesome video.
The composite and S-Video are likely due to the fact that in 1999 a DVD player would cost around £250. It's unlikely you'd want to splash all that cash on an expensive computer with DVD-ROM drive and a DVD player.
It's one of the reasons the PS2 sold so well early on, as it was also the cheapest DVD player available.
I still have my first PC. A Laser 386sx with a 387 math coprocessor for turbo boost. It had a 100 Megabyte Hard drive with Windows 3.0 installed. It was very scaled back! I later installed a soundblaster sound card and modem because back then systems didn't have that stuff preinstalled. I remember bragging about how much space my hard drive had. I was like "MAN!!, I'LL NEVER FILL THIS HARD DRIVE UP!" LOL! Those were the days....
Sadly there aren't any recycling places that allow you to wander around them where I live at, there was one and I was always going there looking for deals, but they closed.
When the PSU explodes,you check for shorts ,then check your own shorts. Scary as (SHIFT).
I'm still watching the video, what a blast.. nice find on the SB with the expansion ram.. that's a gem! I had the trident vga card I bought in the late 80s to stuff in my mom's XT and finally got away from CGA, trident was a terrible card but it was CHEAP and it worked!!! - we used external modems, USRobotics, man I miss those days.. I sure wish I would have kept all the different machines, motherboards, cpus, especially the ram, I had the vesa local bus motherboards.. man I had SO much old computer stuff in the 90s. Got rid of ALL of it one day, just gave it all away. Bad idea looking back, but I don't care.. I have a killer system today and I'm glad if any of my old stuff went on to a better life. I should have kept my Pentium Pro though, the gold CPU at 150mhz.. yeah that I think is pretty rare today.. now I'm questioning my choices in life.. great.. New subscriber here, I'll watch your videos and get your channel to grow.. you're showing my life as a kid
The case of the AT system has a quite substantial amount of slots. I think this could have originated from an industrial PC with a backplane (which often had more than 8 slots like a normal AT PC) and an SBC. This might explain, why, if I understoof you correctly, there was a hole cut for the AT keboard connector, because an SBC would normally have a PS/2 port on the card. The board is, as far as I remember the naming from Tyan, a First-Generation Tomcat which was named S1561 for the single CPU board and S1562 for the Dual CPU board. The second generation (interestingly called Tomcat III) was the S1563 (1 CPU) and S1563D (2 CPUs), same for the Tomcat 4. The 1561/1562 had the COAST to upgrade from normal cache to Pipeline Burst (and you already have a Pipeline Burst slotted in), the Tomcat III and 4 had Pipeline Burst alrady soldered and support for MMX CPUs (and the 4 also for K6, however, AMD only in Single CPU).
I still own a 1564D, so a Tomcat 4 Dual CPU board, which is equipped with 2 Pentium MMX 233. Quite a fun in Windows NT or Linux, but you won't profit from the second CPU in DOS and WinDOS 9x. But quite interesting tinkering with it.
Awesome
It's just a server board. Or a high end enthusiast board from back in the day. If you wanted to be a PC baller.
That machine on the left looks like a similar tower to the one that my grandpa used to conduct his business on back in the 90's. Real memories! Thanks for the video.
6:50 " somebody must have been in here at some point" on a 40~ year old PC" . that is hilarious, was great to hear the steel case ring when you took the cover off. Mahalo
Those drive connectors for the newer machine look like SCSI Wide or some kind of proprietary removable chassis connectors. Wow! That PSU was one spicy meatball. Bad Caps? Glad nothing else got fried and you didn't get hurt.
Copy that older tower's BIOS! That might be one of the ones that NO one has preserved yet. The Pentium S processor runs hot, as I recall, (but not quite as hot as a Pentium D), so make sure you keep it cool, man. Check the heatsink paste, and make sure the fan runs well.
That motherboard looks to be one of the early SMP (Symmetric Multi-Processor) motherboards. It will need an SMP compatible OS (Windows NT 4.0 or WIndows 2000 Professional?) if you do decide to soup it up with a second processor.
Thanks for the tips as always!
First thing would be pull out that CPU and check if it's a 125mhz overdrive or a 166mhz with wrong fsb setting.
The Inwin on the right brings back some memories, I had the midi tower a500 version of the case, and I also had the same hdd docks, mine where the earlier version, they used a normal ide style connector before moving the the centronics connectors. I had that in my 486 and pentium systems as it made swapping hdd's with friends easier to make 'backups' of their systems for them.
Oh man. I had a HUGEMONGOUS tower like these as my college computer. That thing started its life as a 386 DX/40 and kept getting upgraded as I found components, usually stuff thrown out by local offices as e-waste, until I had a P-III. The system always had more physical space for everything - hard drives, cards, floppies, etc. - than any sane person would've ever wanted. It also had a QIC-40 mini tape drive, which I never bothered to hook up because even in 1994 a 40mb tape drive seemed incredibly dumb.
Dual Pentium-MMX 233 MHz, maxed out RAM, Iomega Zip Drive, 1x 3½ and 1x 5¼ floppy drives, 1x CD/DVD drive, 1x CD/DVD burner, a few hard drives in RAID-5, running Windows NT4 or Windows 2000.
Max out that rig, man !
I tell you. Systems from the early 90s which have a 5½ some tape drive and a 3½ drive just have a certain look to them,and i absolutely adore them, thanks for saving these beautiful systems, Greetings from germany!
That Tyan board is awesome, dual socket 7!! Throw in two K6 III 550mhz CPUs in it. Back in the day I would have loved a Tyan Trinity mobo, the Tomcat was elite! I still have my Diamond Flower DFI board with Socket 7 and it has USB headers on it too. I know you are an AMD guy, but then you should know about Slot A motherboards. LOL. I have one of those too.
My full tower case is bigger than your full tower case.
Fifteen 5.25 drive bays, loaded with 3.5 keyed removable tray drive carts, and an internal bracket for an additional two 3.5 drives.
I have the same ATX case, complete with PII-350, two removeable hard drive caddies, but only 1 dvd-rom. I bought the case as new old stock. Still has the feet :)
Im surprised you didnt know about Pentium III cpu's being on a slot package to begin with, there where even converter boards that worked with certain newer motherboards with a bios update that you could plug in a socket 370 Pentium III into these converter boards to fit in these certain slot based motherboards.
What a fun video! I would NOT be a good candidate for those machines... at all. I do have ambitions of getting one of those old full sized towers from the 90s and making the ultimate "power tower" I wanted as a 13 year old or whatever age I was. I want ALL the drives! 5.25, 3.5, Zip, CD/DVD ROM, etc. A 40 year old can dream...
My first "PC" was a 486 full tower. IIRC it had 6 5.25" bays. It stood as high as our dining room table.
There is something I need to mention as a bit of trivia... A lot of folks don't know about this, but ASUS used to have a PEG-Asus as their logo, as seen in the badge sticker there. Amazing. I thought I would never see that logo again. But there it is! Kinda cool aye?
Nice. I didn't know that.
The case to the right is the same model i have and i still think i have it in my storage somewhere. It's a really nice case and i can see that the power supply is a Power man 😄
My computer was running DUAL 1Ghz CPU PIII with 3 DVD burners, 3 network cards, 12 hard drives (i extended the 3.5" bay down in the case), tape backup and i could still run it on the PSU that was only 235 watts.
That is why they named it POWER MAN 😆
That sound brings back a lot of memories! @7:12
7:10 this whole scene brings me memories... no glass sidepanel back then!
oooooh.. a Tyan Tomcat board. I wish I had one of those beauties in my retro collection. Congratulations on that dumpster find!
Its a surprise you got the COAST. I sure don't miss those pesky cowls on the old computers. A power supply blew up in a friend of mine's face once.
You two really nice things there. The Tyan Tomcat was a really high end MB. Just remember you need NT if you want to run Windows with two CPU´s. The other nice thing is that ATX case. It´s the highly regarded Inwin Q500. One of the nicest cases of the time. Fun fact from my memory lane: My only PSU explosion was in a system with that case and a Asus MB. I think you really need to make a good NT4 rig with that Tyan board and two non-mmx Pentium 200´s.
I miss these cases! As our video cards are now over a foot long, motherboards getting tighter and tighter for no reason, cooling solutions getting bigger and bigger, we need bigger cases but keep getting smaller ones! It's like the two sides of the hardware industry forgot to talk to the other about the direction they were going, so one went left and one went right. But can you imagine how many fans you could get into one of these with modern hardware? Or what kind of water cooling you might be able to get? Geez.
Had one of these Pentium towers someone gave me in 02 made a DVR box out of it. Built a frame inside and hung the MB in the center. So big, all connectors were contained inside still have that in my basement. MB still hanging and a Cable TV card still in there. Also had HD Drawers. Cut a window in the side of a case in 2000, before it was cool.
I bought a pair of those Antec cases on the right for about $150 each in 2001. Still in use.
Based on the Tyan's BIOS POST string and versions, I think you have a model S1562D Tomcat II. These boards are well documented at TheRetroWeb. If that's the correct model, it supports dual Pentiums up to 200MHz. (non-MMX) It can also run single-voltage AMD and Cyrix CPUs, but only in a single processor configuration. If it's the later S1563D Tomcat III, that adds dual/split voltage rail support enabling Pentium MMX CPUs. More AMD CPUs are also supported, but again only as a single processor.
I'd definitely like to see it set up with dual CPUs. I'd throw a PCI graphics card in there instead for improved GUI performance. The board supports up to 512MiB of EDO RAM if you wanted to go really nuts. Windows NT 3.x or 4, SMP versions of OS/2, BeOS/Haiku, Linux and BSD would all be effective ways to leverage the dual CPUs. Linux would need to be an older distro, or one with a kernel targeting 486/Pentium as most mainstream x86 distros target Pentium II/686 now. Windows 2000 would also run pretty well with faster Pentiums and a bit more RAM. As for applications, audio workstation and MIDI software might be fun with the SB32.
It's kind of weird how the POST displays the CPU as 125MHz a couple times and 133MHz once. I wonder if the FSB is/was set to 60MHz when it was displaying 125MHz.
Two nice Systems for $40 Great deal. Thanks for the Video
Awesome video dude! I didn't even realize this didn't have tens of thousands of views yet. Keep up the great work
Thanks! This is my second channel and it is still growing.
Yes definitely max out and let see what this can do!!Install the last bios for this MB!!
The best thing I think could be done with an old rig like this is ti to deck it out with RGB in a new case that is of an open design that shows its vintage off.
Love the scream when the PSU gives the arc of death! LMAO! That newer machine appeared to have a DVD-RW burner as the top drive.. And with two removable HDD caddies like that, i bet ya that was used for producing many many copies of movies and software/games ala piracy, had to get the files from elsewhere or didn't have internet to that PC maybe, something like that.. Or maybe downloaded everything at work to bring it home lol damn you for getting nice things so cheap! Also, that PSU still managed 1.4V on the 5V rail whilst shorting out!
I had this nearly exact same motherboard in my first Windows based (Win3.11) system. The only difference was the 2nd CPU socket wasn't installed, so it could only accept a single CPU. Also, I knew exactly what that sound card was as soon as I saw the RAM on it because I, too, had the Sound Blaster AWE-32.
I still have one similar size I am still using. Full towers are like large drinks these days. Just not as big as they used to be.
I recently gained a Tyan s7025 dual socket Xeon beast. Trying to get it running now. Fun times.
The magic blue smoke has escaped. That PSU will enter the recycling gates of the great digital beyond.
Can you do a tear down on the busted PSU. It would be interested to see what popped.
At my first professional job in 95, the bambus PCs we used had Diamond cards. But every time the IT department ordered a batch, it was different specked cards, the model name was the same. So they dropped Diamond and went to someone new on the marked: Matrox .... Happy times
I had a Zeos tower. You have to go WAY back to remember what that was. Probably 1992 ish. It was huge like these in your video.
OMG! I ordered my first PC from HD, back in Jan '91. Found them in Computer Shopper.
The early systems with dual processors were used for Windows NT4 Server, and NT4 Workstation as it was the only OS at the time to support dual processors, not sure about Linux but should have in server versions. Windows 95 or 98 won't see the second processor, and could result in problems. I think the first system would have been either a Windows server that was never switched off, hence why the keyboard connector was covered over to prevent someone from plugging in a keyboard.
Those full towers I only ever saw as servers at the NHS in 2008. Probably not those models but similar.
Would have been nice to see what happened inside the power supply, I'm assuming the chopper transistor got vaporised.
I had one of these big boxes in my workshop for ages, however it fell into disuse as Windows etc moved on and this could run nothing usefull at a usable speed (long before I discovered retro) so it ended up as e-waste.
I would love to have a look inside the toasty PSU
Yeah if this is what he's doing he needs a bulb limiter. That'll save on the big spark go boom incidents.
who does not like that smell of burned electronics in the morning..
That dual cpu tower is gorgeous, period. And a period piece to be sure. I haven't watched thru to see the boot I'm just having fun trying to guess what processor is on board. Due to date 1995 I'm thinking 60 mhz, but could be 90 or 100, but I'm betting 60. Dual Pentiums... oh, the possibilities. A wonky, old, slow ass server would be soooo fun and so ridiculous ;)
Oh, I was wrong and in a good way. 125 mhz... sheesh, that rig is screaming !!!! ROFLMAO!!! Nice find sir !
Do you think PCB Way can create a duplicate KDM-7 Keypad and PCB film push button part to make a replacement for the Kenwood Two-way Radio TK-250 model KDM-7 16 digit keypad ?
It is a little plastic front with the 16 buttons about 2 inches by 3 inches and a film PCB with metal push contacts that connects the film traces to tell the radio what button was pushed
It has been out of manufacture for decades.
I can't buy one, but I do have a new old stock one in the original box.
I am trying to find someone who can 3D print the keypad and someone to make the film PCB that goes under the keypad
Any ideas ?
Thanks
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had something like that in the day.talles one right now is my p2 with it's scisi drives and grundig cdwriter.....they made of steel not tin hence the weight
Videos like this make me REALLY REGRET getting rid of a Gateway 2000 case I had gotten for free back in the 90s 😢
I love the dual cpu case better cause I like those Pcs from the era,would have been nice if you got a shot of the front of it and see that turbo led all lit up,I just got a thing I love about a MHz display and Turbo buttons,I have a few small baby Ats my self..
Power supply testers are cheap and really really handy. It won't have saved you from the magic smoke but it's a quick way to check your power supply. Nice video!
Nah what they need is a bulb limiter. You take an old timey incandescent light bulb and put it in series with the line in. Then if the PSU draws excessive current it lights the bulb up and that limits the current.
@@1pcfred Great idea! That will help with the magic smoke although a power supply tester will measure all the voltages all at once. Sometimes only one voltage is out of spec and the tester will tell you.
@@maladamedialabs4214 if you're testing a lot of PSUs then a dedicated tester may be worthwhile. If you're only doing it occasionally testing each voltage with a multimeter isn't too taxing. Today getting a bulb to use as a bulb limiter isn't as easy as it used to be.
holy flashback,,,visions of my $500 "ATI all in wonder" with a massive 128 bit interface...lol
Ah, my much-missed InWin Q500. Lost mine in our house fire some 16 years ago. I would definitely buy that Q500 case from you if I wasn't on the opposite end of the country (NY).
But mine still had a high-density 5.25" drive (I had intentionally kept one on hand). It had been running a 64-bit version of MSWin XP, dual-booting with Ubuntu (or was it already Linux Mint by then).
I used to use Dual Pentium Pros to run SCO OpenServer and Oracle 7. Linux also ran great on them.
All of the Ensoniq based PCI Creative Labs cards have DOS support and drivers.
Been looking for 2 computers like this one to make a pure retro machine and the other for a sleeper pc. Hopefully one day ill run across a few just like these just without the explody bits!!!
Why you'd want to hook up your PC To the TV? (that's what the Composite and S-Video are for)
To watch a Movie. What else ;)
but back in the day, you could only use either or clone the Display (=output the same signal to all outputs). The Only Cards that could that were Matrox G4x0, G550 and Radeon VE/7000 and the DX8 Radeons. nVidia too way longer and for them its the Geforce 4 series that supported 2 independant Display outputs...
Nice deal. The Dual is for sure a keeper though you would need an OS that can use 2 CPUs. The Slot1 maybe not so much as you already said. Since I still have my original PIII system built when new, intel did make Slot1 PIIIs. I forget at which point they added Socket 370 but they continued to offer Slot1 as an option until the 1GHZ model, IIRC. There were also adapters called Slockets that allowed you to use a Socket 370 and convert it to a Slot1. It was often cheaper and faster to do this vs buying the Slot1. My model is a Slot1 800Mhz. I still keep it around because at the time I put a Voodoo5 5500 AGP and I could never get rid of that.
Nice computer systems from that era. Smoke as bonus. Greetings from Steven from the Netherlands
Greetings Steven!
Great video. Love the Mario T shirt
33:38, I wonder if that helps number for Doom is still in service, lol
That was a server board from the days of Windows 95
came for the the scream. was not disappointed...
Of course you should max-out the first system! Overclock the bus to 100MHz if possible, and run TWO Pentium CPU's at 3x100=300MHz. I've done that with plenty of single-CPU Socket 7 systems. Then install NT4 or Win2K.
At first, I was jealous of the dual socket system, then realized how useless it would be, due to lack of software support (outside of boring server stuff). Maybe see if it can run XP, and throw in a Voodoo3 PCI card, then you might find a couple of games.... For instance, Quake III can use multiple CPUs, though it's buggy.
Nice video. Thanks! As a suggestion: I recently had fun installing OS/2 warp server on a very similar system (dual P1). Could not get BeOS to work in SMP, though.
This! I have a full copy of OS2 sitting on my shelf waiting for a reason to do something with it.
@@RetroHackShackAfterHours I am looking forward to the video! Just to warn you: it might be that only the server versions support more than one cpu.
NT4 or linux.. not much else you can reasonably throw 2 cpus at. If i remember correctly, you can hack some d3d into NT4
Man, I'd love to find a place like that near me where I could buy old PCs. That slot 1! If you were giving it away or selling it, I would definitely be interested. Reminds me of my first build.
oh, nice.
That first one was unexpected.
A standard Pentium 166 (125 due to FSB being set in the BIOS and defaulting to 50 would be my guess).
I want to the see the inside of the power supply that exploded…
I agree!!
i had both of these systems and have two twin towers still in my friend places with a pen pro dual system and a old 586x system
Dual pentium made great home file-servers back in the day running windows NT
Got a Tyan Slot 1 MB new in box, never built. And An Intel also. Just found a Soyo Socket A new in box. Stuck in an Athlon CPU, in an old tower next is putting Linux on it. Got Win98SE installed but cannot get the USB drivers to work in Win. Did that Sunday. The tower was in my basement which looks kinda like your shop. Had an ABIT Socket A, stuck an Athlon in it hit the switch and POP. Was not the PS but was the CPU. One of the resistors had popped on the edge. Dead CPU. Dead MB now also. But found that Soyo and have 2 more Athlon and 1 Sempron CPU.
Nothing quite as fond as letting out the magic smoke
Sound Blaster 128 pci works on DOS. But this needs some drivers to work.
. . . Dallas is opened by cutting off the top & wiring in a new battery . . .
id make a server rig or retrorig and use the board inside an arcade style home made arcade system
I'm pretty sure there's a hack for the Dallas batteries, you can, well... you can put a cr2032 battery clasp on it and wire it to 2 of the pins.. but since you can still get them I guess that's fine, but it's pretty easy to do the other way
edit: yeah I figured you'd know that, I comment as the video goes sorry
@Necroware replacement
I would get a non-conductive chip base to slot in and get a modern CPU lid glued to it, just to trip people up ~u~
The P3V4X in the Slot 1 system is a solid board. I have one but my PS/2 ports are going out on it so I have to use USB keyboard and mouse.
Also, that TYAN board is a nice one too! Max out all of the things (CPU, RAM) and put a dual CPU-aware OS on that bad boy and see what you can do with it. 🙂
I will be on the lookout for some matching CPUs for sure
You might try an x86 port of BeOS on the older tower, or even have a go with Haiku, a modern-day reimplementation of the Be platform. Both would take more advantage of multiple CPUs than contemporary versions of Windows, to say nothing of the general dearth of multiprocessing-aware Windows software from the era. Hardware compatibility might be spotty, particularly with BeOS proper, so you might need to raid the parts bin and shuffle in different cards until you find a set that the OS can do something with.
BeOS is an interesting idea!
When it says e-whaste what it is? any web page or a local recycling place?
30:07 Pentium 2 and 3, then they went back to regular CPUs again.
I've got a fairly recent build that has an Intel i7-9700K and a ROG RTX 3050 GPU among other items and it weighs some 45-50 pounds.
yeah i was surprised to see it say Pentium 125mhz, either its being reported wrong, overclocked, set wrong or maybe its not a intel cpu, cyrix, amd, IDT winchip, IBM etc... but maybe the system is intel only so reads as intel whatever you put in it. deffinately find a compatible dual socket 7 pair of cpu's to fit in there, i will be curious to see how much memory can be installed, and what OP system would pair to except Dual Socket 7 cpu's.
I had d my my full size towers ..... compensating, at the time. (grin)
Power supply input filter capacitors are the only failure, just change them, and it likely will work again.
I've had nothing but bad experiences with Tyan motherboards. Every one i have has some kind of weird problems or simply doesnt work any more, and I have quite a few of them laying around.
Why not install BeOs 5 on this dual CPU system, max it out and turn it into a mediacenter. Back in the day that's what I did and it worked like a charm.