I remember Novak giving an interview late in 2014 or maybe even at the beginning of 2015, where he was asked if he could ever duplicate the 2011. And he responded something like: "What I've done in 2011, I can do again. There is no reason not to be able to accomplish similar results". And he was right. He had an even better 2015 season.
2011 was so exciting, especially the french open. Seeing federer (my fav) beat a streaking Djokovic then fall apart as usual to Nadal in the French open was insane. What's crazy is I was living in Spain as a teenager and the town went from loving Federer against Djoker to hating him against Nadal in 2 days xD That French Open Semis Novak vs Roger was maybe the most memorable match I can remember. And Nadal Federer 2017 AO (due to circumstances)
2023 is a tier in itself. Rated R as Revenge season. 1) returning in Australia + USA with 4 titles 2) avenging 2021 us open 3) beating Carlos in Cincinnati+ ATP finals. + Bonus beating Rune the prick in Paris
I really wish we could see 2011 Novak vs 2015 Novak vs 2021 Novak. I think 2015 would win because the mix of experience and energy, while other 2 seasons have only one of these
I personally think 2011 djokovic is the most scariest version of him, not as complete as 2015 because lack of his serve, but his style was very impressive back then, destroy prime nadal 7-0 in finals is just outstanding
Amazing video. Hoping to see one of these for Roger and Rafa (and an update on this one once Djokovic decides to retire, cant see that happening for at least 4 years though). Even before watching once you explained the tier rules I knew 2011, 15, 21 would be S tier and 2017 would be D tier. Loved hearing your thoughts on where the other seasons ranked, great reasoning.
Great video, well done! I completely agree with your tier list. It is worth noting the following: the bar for Novak Djokovic is set so high, that his worst season in 2017 (which for his standards is deservedly a D) would be an S Tier for most of the players in the tour, or even an S+. See, despite struggling with his elbow, bad shape and lack of confidence, he was able to pull off 2 ATP titles, which were Doha on hard and Eastbourne on Grass. He also made semi-finals in Madrid, finals in Rome and quarter-finals in Roland Garros. Most players have never won a single ATP 250 tour title, which can be the highlight of their whole careers in case they grab one of those. The first half of 2018 was kind of a continuation of that dark period for him. But from Rome onwards he gradually built up his form that culminated in that epic semi-final against Nadal in Wimbledon 2018. One of the best Grand Slam matches in history.
2011 is absolutely my favourite because of the sheer speed and athleticism around the court, and also because Federer and Nadal were stronger than in later years. 2015 was obviously ruthless. 2021 was magical because you just think it's not possible to do what he did at 34. Obviously the competition was not great though.
2022 was an interesting year because he did something no one did before, I think - he won the tournaments of each category - 250, 500, a masters, a grand slam, and a YE championship.
I like your tier list. What Novak achieved in the three S tier season are different types of greatness. In 2011 season he was unbeatable during the first half of the season, until THAT semifinal against Roger. From that match on, his level has dropped a little in the second part of the season, even though he won wimbledon and us open. In 2021 season he was unbeatable in Grand Slam tournaments, but besides from that, he did not have a great overall season like the others two. But in this one he was really one match away from history. 2015 it's in my opinion is greatest season overall. He won 3 grand slams, dominating every match. He won 6 masters 1000s (reaching 8 finals), a record in a season and he won the atp finals, which in the other two seasons, he failed to do. So for me, 2015 belongs to the top 2 greatest season of all time, alongside with Roger's 2006 season Both God Tier season.
Yeah no surprise that looking at ATP points (adjusted to modern ranking system) Djokovic's 2015 and Federer's 2006 are the two highest year end totals of all time at 16,585 and 15,903 respectively. In fact, Djokovic's 2011 and Federer's 2007 are 3rd and 4th on almost identical points.
Now rate the outfits! You did one for Roger and I commented on that a while back as I'm a collector and loved this older stuff. Novak 2011 had a few magic ST polos!
This feels pretty spot on. Obviously a couple years could be changed if we are just looking at objective stats: 2007, 2022 for example could be lowered. But given the context of him being just starting out at the top level in 2007, and obviously the vaccine situation in 2022, I think you ranked them appropriately. So far 2023 looking to be minimum A-tier and likely S-tier.
Btw judging by how things are currently going this season (depending on the outcome of Sunday's match at RG...) it is on the pace into either A or an S Tier, unless something major derails this season entirely!
And after that, another S tier year for Novak. My God, this doesn't seem even real, after all these acomplishments, somehow at 36 years old he played arguably 3rd greatest season of his career. I mean, wow...
2013 will be remembered more for great great games than for his strength. AO Wawrinka, RG Nadal, WB Del Potro, and a little lower, US Wawrinka. The first three in particular will be historic matches.
I'd put 2016 above 2008... first half of the season was absolutely ridiculous and Djokovic still managed to win Toronto and make the final of US Open and ATP Finals post-RG...
Djokovic is the GOAT , and not because he won 22 GS, but because he beat Nadal on clay more times than any other two players on the tour put together. If Novak wins another RG title, or Olympic gold , there will be nothing left to talk about tennis for the next 63 yrs.
@ML official Why do you think Nadal fans thought that Rafa was the GOAT - because he had winning H2H vs. Roger or because he had less GS titles until 2021 ?
Have to agree with every single one of your ratings. Given Djokovic has taken out the first two of the Grand Slams he's probably locked in an A-tier already. We'll see if he can make this an S-tier due to the final two grand slam results of the year (and, in a far smaller part his Masters/ATP Finals results).
This was a completely subjective list which I disagreed with a lot , he gave Novak B tier for seasons where he won 1 slam , multiple masters and an ATP final and finished n1 , that seems dumb as hell for me . Most of those seasons should have been A tier easily .
@@saula8948 Yeah you have a point, but he is talking about Novak standard and level...he is comparing Novak to Novak. Thats why is like this. I say 2007 he made a name as 3rd best player. 2008 he showed he can beat anyone. as well in slams. 2011 he proved the sentence that Rafa is beatable on clay. 2012, 2013, 2014 are not his most great seasons, but he kept the consistency well enough, earning many important tournaments. After 2015 he became the master of slams and always a favor, at the least 3 of them. 2016, he was able to win any of the 4 slams. He did it two times more at any of the 4. Precisely the greatest tennis player in history of the sport. Nobody in tennis has soo fullfiled ilustrious resime as him. If you say he has to win 8th wimby and 5th Us, or maybe Olympic gold, or 4 slams in one year, perhaps 110 titles in total,..but does anybody have such colorful career as he does. No. I dont think so.
@@nikolakostic1310 I get what you're saying but there is a reason why there is an S tier , if there was no S tier then B tier for some of those seasons would make sense , but any season he ended as the world n1 , has won 1 or 2 slams , multiple masters , atp finals as well has to be A tier even for his standard .
@@saula8948 i mean for me personally, i dont think he had any bad season from 2011, mostly winning 4 to 10 big titles, but for him standard became 3 majors a year and couple more big titles. I dont really go much of this s tier b tier,..where is that in dictionary of tennis anyway. I think when he wins 5 or 7 instead of 10 or 12 in a season, but all 6 are big titles and not 250, 500...its measared more of course..for those guys grand slams counts the most, the best guy is the one who wins the most out of 4 in a year.
@@nikolakostic1310 Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I disagree with 1 thing you wrote wholeheartedly , how was 2017 not a bad season ? I know he had injury issues but he was awful that season .
"didn't take him long to recover [from 2013]" not really IMO. dropped AO to wawrinka whom he beat the year before and still couldn't avenge RG. he would only really show his form again in 2014 Wimbledon (beats Cilic after dropping the first 2 sets and the final of course). either way gr8 vid! :)
2013 and 2014 and 2012 Novak was really wild. All 3 seasons where Novak should have won at least 2 slams but eeked out 1 only. 2013 he arguably should've won RG as well. Losing to Nadal at the USO was unacceptable, losing to Andy in 2012 was unacceptable, losing to wawrinka in 2014 ao, 2015 RG, 2016 us is unacceptable. Like it's insane to me that he chokes away these easy fuckin wins. He would have close to 30 slams by now. It's fine to lose to Nadal sometimes at the us open but not this many times. It's absolutely unacceptable to lose to stan.
@@M.L.official come on he's human noone can win everything, it's what fans of every tennis player should keep in the back of their minds - and I'm a Federer fan so I know what I'm talking about haha. All of these big 5 players + other like Delpo,Cilic etc. had great wins and tough loses against eachother, it was a great golden era of tennis! let's remember it for what it was a not what it could/should have been.
@@M.L.official ok my point is that you used the word 'unacceptable' like 4 times and described these matches as 'choking away easy f-n wins' which made it seem like it was a disgrace that he lost. I'm pretty sure he got over these losses a long time ago
no one will ever know in 2020 USO, 2022 AO, 2022 USO if nothing againest him, let's just say nothing interrupted or no interference... I honestly do believe he will have one more slam at least added to his tally, but it is what it is~ it's his fate I guess
Would have to disagree with 2012 being on the A level. I would say 2008 2012 and 2013 are before A level but still really good, with 2014 being worse than those 3 as well
2021 isnt s tier, he won 1 masters title and didnt even play a majority of the masters. you cant compare it to 2011/2015, its top of a tier but not s. if he beat medvedev then it wouldve gone to s
2015-2023 Fedal became non existent due to old age and injuries Novak began to dominate. Clearly shows Novak couldn’t touch Fedal during their prime except Nadal in 2011. Grand slams won during 2006-2014 (Fedal prime era) is 7 and grand slams won from 2015-2023 (Weakest next gen Era) is 16. Shows clearly Fedal at their best > Djokovic
It does not show that at all , Novak peaked in 2011 . Federer wasn't dominating at 19-20 like Nadal was , he was similar to Novak's age in 2011 when he started to dominate much weaker competition than what Novak had . And even if we exclude 2011 and focus on 2012-2014 Nadal won 1 more slam in that period than Novak , while Roger won 1 slam I would hardly call that dominance from anybody say perhaps 2013 for Nadal . Who did Roger have to deal with in the 2004-2007 years ? Roddick , a decade older Agassi , Safin , Hewitt , and some other non slam winners . His problem started when Nadal came along but a 20-21 year old Nadal was still young but still gave Roger trouble and in 2008 when he was 22 bear Roger at WImbledon , 2009 AO , he started to beat him everywhere . Novak from 2011 is the best player , Nadal was better in 2013 but not by a crazy degree . Nadal mostly dominated clay , i mean he won from 2011 3 slams outside of the FO and one of those is where Novak was deported . Novak has proven to be the best player overall . His records eclipse both of those of Nadal and Federer and the guy keeps on winning . I will say this Nadal is obviously better on clay , I don't think anybody will argue otherwise . Roger is likely better on very fast surfaces but only there . Medium speed hc , slow hc , and modern grass which is slower Novak dominated since 2011 . Federer lost 3 times to Novak at slams when he had 2 match points , that was not due to age , he didn't become grandpa when he needed 1 more point , Novak was just more clutch and never gave up and won , turning the tide on his side . Nadal also never had a long period of his dominance , he could dominate 1 year and then he got overtaken by Novak . Nadal also has only 1 season where he won 3 slams compared to Roger and Novak who have 3 season with 3 slam wins . In that season he never played Roger and played Novak once in the US Open final . Novak also won 4 in a row , when did Roger or Nadal do that , oh right , never . You can argue who the better / greater player is between Roger and Rafa but Novak is clearly number 1 .
@saula8948 don't even waste your breath trying to prove to fedheads that their era was weak. They'll tell you Roddick and Safin are better than Nadal and Murray 🤣
2015 should be S+. It’s imo the greatest single season in the open era
I remember Novak giving an interview late in 2014 or maybe even at the beginning of 2015, where he was asked if he could ever duplicate the 2011. And he responded something like: "What I've done in 2011, I can do again. There is no reason not to be able to accomplish similar results". And he was right. He had an even better 2015 season.
Sorry but no, fed 2006 is the best one
@@danicadabic9789and he's replicating that again❤
@@AAAAAA-gj2di Yes, let's hope he can win all four this time. The 2021 season was excellent too.
@@emilianopizana546 nah
2011 will always stay my favourite and the highest level of tennis I have ever seen from any player
2011 was so exciting, especially the french open. Seeing federer (my fav) beat a streaking Djokovic then fall apart as usual to Nadal in the French open was insane. What's crazy is I was living in Spain as a teenager and the town went from loving Federer against Djoker to hating him against Nadal in 2 days xD
That French Open Semis Novak vs Roger was maybe the most memorable match I can remember. And Nadal Federer 2017 AO (due to circumstances)
2011 is definitely more memorable due to the many Nadal Djokovic finals.
2023 was just added to 2011, 2015, 2021 Novak
2023 is a tier in itself. Rated R as Revenge season. 1) returning in Australia + USA with 4 titles 2) avenging 2021 us open 3) beating Carlos in Cincinnati+ ATP finals. + Bonus beating Rune the prick in Paris
GREATEST ALL TIME,.Undisputable~
I really wish we could see 2011 Novak vs 2015 Novak vs 2021 Novak. I think 2015 would win because the mix of experience and energy, while other 2 seasons have only one of these
I personally think 2011 djokovic is the most scariest version of him, not as complete as 2015 because lack of his serve, but his style was very impressive back then, destroy prime nadal 7-0 in finals is just outstanding
11-13 he was almost unbeatable.
And now 2023 Djokovic.
2023 was special. Transcended sport
And now in 2023 he’s already got the first 2 slams of the year again😭
Came here expecting the 3 S Tier years you listed - well done.
really hoping for the 4th to come
@@Real17Gun Done! Haha Man that Cinci BO3 final against Alcaraz was something, wasn't it??...
@@Summon256That was absolutely crazy. And his level at US open was unreal too.
@@Real17Gun do you consider 2023 S Tier?
@@jlwebster9 of course. 3 slams is automatically S tier. What about you?
Amazing video. Hoping to see one of these for Roger and Rafa (and an update on this one once Djokovic decides to retire, cant see that happening for at least 4 years though).
Even before watching once you explained the tier rules I knew 2011, 15, 21 would be S tier and 2017 would be D tier. Loved hearing your thoughts on where the other seasons ranked, great reasoning.
2022 was a great season for Novak. Winning Wimbledon, Rome, Astana, atp finals was a big deal.
True, was amazing given how much he didn’t play, if he won Roland Garros he would’ve had the best season he possibly could’ve had
Unreal production, subscribed. Keep up the great work AK10S, hope to see you commentate on ESPN one day.
Great video, well done! I completely agree with your tier list. It is worth noting the following: the bar for Novak Djokovic is set so high, that his worst season in 2017 (which for his standards is deservedly a D) would be an S Tier for most of the players in the tour, or even an S+.
See, despite struggling with his elbow, bad shape and lack of confidence, he was able to pull off 2 ATP titles, which were Doha on hard and Eastbourne on Grass. He also made semi-finals in Madrid, finals in Rome and quarter-finals in Roland Garros. Most players have never won a single ATP 250 tour title, which can be the highlight of their whole careers in case they grab one of those.
The first half of 2018 was kind of a continuation of that dark period for him. But from Rome onwards he gradually built up his form that culminated in that epic semi-final against Nadal in Wimbledon 2018. One of the best Grand Slam matches in history.
Novak is the best forever and ever 🐐❤️
Excellent 👌 ❤and thankyou 🙏🏻😊
2011 is absolutely my favourite because of the sheer speed and athleticism around the court, and also because Federer and Nadal were stronger than in later years. 2015 was obviously ruthless. 2021 was magical because you just think it's not possible to do what he did at 34. Obviously the competition was not great though.
Agree with the rankings would love to see a federer or nadal version in the futur maybe ,anyways i love watching ur cool vidos as usual xd
2012: Australian. His best was 2015, 2011, 2021. However 2022 was great too: atp finals and Wimbeldon, despite being kicked out of Australia. 😎
2022 was an interesting year because he did something no one did before, I think - he won the tournaments of each category - 250, 500, a masters, a grand slam, and a YE championship.
I like your tier list.
What Novak achieved in the three S tier season are different types of greatness.
In 2011 season he was unbeatable during the first half of the season, until THAT semifinal against Roger. From that match on, his level has dropped a little in the second part of the season, even though he won wimbledon and us open.
In 2021 season he was unbeatable in Grand Slam tournaments, but besides from that, he did not have a great overall season like the others two. But in this one he was really one match away from history.
2015 it's in my opinion is greatest season overall.
He won 3 grand slams, dominating every match.
He won 6 masters 1000s (reaching 8 finals), a record in a season
and he won the atp finals, which in the other two seasons, he failed to do.
So for me, 2015 belongs to the top 2 greatest season of all time, alongside with Roger's 2006 season
Both God Tier season.
Yeah no surprise that looking at ATP points (adjusted to modern ranking system) Djokovic's 2015 and Federer's 2006 are the two highest year end totals of all time at 16,585 and 15,903 respectively. In fact, Djokovic's 2011 and Federer's 2007 are 3rd and 4th on almost identical points.
Now rate the outfits! You did one for Roger and I commented on that a while back as I'm a collector and loved this older stuff. Novak 2011 had a few magic ST polos!
Ah yeah I hear you tacchinivic was truly gone too soon but yeah definitely will hit both Novak and Rafa for similar outfit videos soon
Now we can add :
-2023 in S tier
for, 2024 depending on the US and asian season, I'd say A, B or C
good video. great ranking
You are actually a really good tennis content creator. Not sure if there’s anyone else that rivals you
Thanks for your videos! I agree with all these rankings. Looks like 2023 is another S-tier season with Novak winning 3/4 slams.
Well done. Some stats next to the years like slams and masters🎉🎉
This feels pretty spot on. Obviously a couple years could be changed if we are just looking at objective stats: 2007, 2022 for example could be lowered. But given the context of him being just starting out at the top level in 2007, and obviously the vaccine situation in 2022, I think you ranked them appropriately.
So far 2023 looking to be minimum A-tier and likely S-tier.
Great video as usual
Keep on you're awsome ❤🔥
Btw judging by how things are currently going this season (depending on the outcome of Sunday's match at RG...) it is on the pace into either A or an S Tier, unless something major derails this season entirely!
Even if it does 2 slams and 1 250 ain’t nothing
@@charlie7531 Yes, but it ain't A or S tier season...
Nice video!
Hope 2023 gonna be another S
And after that, another S tier year for Novak. My God, this doesn't seem even real, after all these acomplishments, somehow at 36 years old he played arguably 3rd greatest season of his career. I mean, wow...
This video i amazing, do one for Federer and Nadal
2013 will be remembered more for great great games than for his strength.
AO Wawrinka, RG Nadal, WB Del Potro, and a little lower, US Wawrinka.
The first three in particular will be historic matches.
2013 can not be B tier apart from that agree.
Djokovic in 2013 was absolutely incredible.
I'd put 2016 above 2008... first half of the season was absolutely ridiculous and Djokovic still managed to win Toronto and make the final of US Open and ATP Finals post-RG...
Djokovic is the GOAT , and not because he won 22 GS, but because he beat Nadal on clay more times than any other two players on the tour put together. If Novak wins another RG title, or Olympic gold , there will be nothing left to talk about tennis for the next 63 yrs.
He just won another RG title.
This is the dumbest reason to call Novak a goat lol
@ML official Why do you think Nadal fans thought that Rafa was the GOAT - because he had winning H2H vs. Roger or because he had less GS titles until 2021 ?
Three Grand Slams in 2023 . ( Australia , Roland Garros , US .Open ) .
S tier !
Have to agree with every single one of your ratings. Given Djokovic has taken out the first two of the Grand Slams he's probably locked in an A-tier already. We'll see if he can make this an S-tier due to the final two grand slam results of the year (and, in a far smaller part his Masters/ATP Finals results).
can you do it for federer and nadal ?
2013 could have been insane ,
You should do one for Nadal and Federer as well
2023 will be either B or C, but I can already see 2024 being S tier for Nole
2023 might end up as a S Tier after all 😎
@@leonkozma9148 Looks like a real shot at the CYGS this year.
a 3 slam year can never be that low bro, I think he'll finally complete the grandslam.
2023 is already an A for me: 2 slams and a strong possibility to make the Grand Slam. It could be easily an S.
2015 is the best season on paper, 2011 best on the eye
2023 is s tier right?
I think you should have started from 2005 or before it, not 2007
How did he go from C tier in 2010 to S tier in 2011? :O
Keep making content daddy
This was a completely subjective list which I disagreed with a lot , he gave Novak B tier for seasons where he won 1 slam , multiple masters and an ATP final and finished n1 , that seems dumb as hell for me . Most of those seasons should have been A tier easily .
@@saula8948 Yeah you have a point, but he is talking about Novak standard and level...he is comparing Novak to Novak. Thats why is like this. I say 2007 he made a name as 3rd best player. 2008 he showed he can beat anyone. as well in slams. 2011 he proved the sentence that Rafa is beatable on clay. 2012, 2013, 2014 are not his most great seasons, but he kept the consistency well enough, earning many important tournaments. After 2015 he became the master of slams and always a favor, at the least 3 of them. 2016, he was able to win any of the 4 slams. He did it two times more at any of the 4. Precisely the greatest tennis player in history of the sport. Nobody in tennis has soo fullfiled ilustrious resime as him. If you say he has to win 8th wimby and 5th Us, or maybe Olympic gold, or 4 slams in one year, perhaps 110 titles in total,..but does anybody have such colorful career as he does. No. I dont think so.
@@nikolakostic1310 I get what you're saying but there is a reason why there is an S tier , if there was no S tier then B tier for some of those seasons would make sense , but any season he ended as the world n1 , has won 1 or 2 slams , multiple masters , atp finals as well has to be A tier even for his standard .
@@saula8948 i mean for me personally, i dont think he had any bad season from 2011, mostly winning 4 to 10 big titles, but for him standard became 3 majors a year and couple more big titles. I dont really go much of this s tier b tier,..where is that in dictionary of tennis anyway. I think when he wins 5 or 7 instead of 10 or 12 in a season, but all 6 are big titles and not 250, 500...its measared more of course..for those guys grand slams counts the most, the best guy is the one who wins the most out of 4 in a year.
@@nikolakostic1310 Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I disagree with 1 thing you wrote wholeheartedly , how was 2017 not a bad season ? I know he had injury issues but he was awful that season .
"didn't take him long to recover [from 2013]" not really IMO. dropped AO to wawrinka whom he beat the year before and still couldn't avenge RG. he would only really show his form again in 2014 Wimbledon (beats Cilic after dropping the first 2 sets and the final of course). either way gr8 vid! :)
2013 and 2014 and 2012 Novak was really wild. All 3 seasons where Novak should have won at least 2 slams but eeked out 1 only. 2013 he arguably should've won RG as well. Losing to Nadal at the USO was unacceptable, losing to Andy in 2012 was unacceptable, losing to wawrinka in 2014 ao, 2015 RG, 2016 us is unacceptable. Like it's insane to me that he chokes away these easy fuckin wins. He would have close to 30 slams by now. It's fine to lose to Nadal sometimes at the us open but not this many times. It's absolutely unacceptable to lose to stan.
@@M.L.official come on he's human noone can win everything, it's what fans of every tennis player should keep in the back of their minds - and I'm a Federer fan so I know what I'm talking about haha. All of these big 5 players + other like Delpo,Cilic etc. had great wins and tough loses against eachother, it was a great golden era of tennis! let's remember it for what it was a not what it could/should have been.
@@SebastianKopacz yes and im not saying he should even everything, outloers happen, it's just that he was favored to win those that's all.
@@M.L.official ok my point is that you used the word 'unacceptable' like 4 times and described these matches as 'choking away easy f-n wins' which made it seem like it was a disgrace that he lost. I'm pretty sure he got over these losses a long time ago
S tier for this year loading if he can win Wimbledon and US Open.
no one will ever know in 2020 USO, 2022 AO, 2022 USO if nothing againest him, let's just say nothing interrupted or no interference... I honestly do believe he will have one more slam at least added to his tally, but it is what it is~ it's his fate I guess
Would have to disagree with 2012 being on the A level. I would say 2008 2012 and 2013 are before A level but still really good, with 2014 being worse than those 3 as well
2021 isnt s tier, he won 1 masters title and didnt even play a majority of the masters. you cant compare it to 2011/2015, its top of a tier but not s. if he beat medvedev then it wouldve gone to s
2013 B tier ? Wow
Surely an A tier.
Nah losing against murray straight sets
@@Bojanthekidtook nadal to a 5th
2023. - S or A?
S for sure
@@ak10s30whitch place in S tier
2009 was worse than 2010 imo
2015-2023 Fedal became non existent due to old age and injuries Novak began to dominate. Clearly shows Novak couldn’t touch Fedal during their prime except Nadal in 2011. Grand slams won during 2006-2014 (Fedal prime era) is 7 and grand slams won from 2015-2023 (Weakest next gen Era) is 16. Shows clearly Fedal at their best > Djokovic
It does not show that at all , Novak peaked in 2011 . Federer wasn't dominating at 19-20 like Nadal was , he was similar to Novak's age in 2011 when he started to dominate much weaker competition than what Novak had . And even if we exclude 2011 and focus on 2012-2014 Nadal won 1 more slam in that period than Novak , while Roger won 1 slam I would hardly call that dominance from anybody say perhaps 2013 for Nadal . Who did Roger have to deal with in the 2004-2007 years ? Roddick , a decade older Agassi , Safin , Hewitt , and some other non slam winners . His problem started when Nadal came along but a 20-21 year old Nadal was still young but still gave Roger trouble and in 2008 when he was 22 bear Roger at WImbledon , 2009 AO , he started to beat him everywhere . Novak from 2011 is the best player , Nadal was better in 2013 but not by a crazy degree . Nadal mostly dominated clay , i mean he won from 2011 3 slams outside of the FO and one of those is where Novak was deported . Novak has proven to be the best player overall . His records eclipse both of those of Nadal and Federer and the guy keeps on winning .
I will say this Nadal is obviously better on clay , I don't think anybody will argue otherwise .
Roger is likely better on very fast surfaces but only there .
Medium speed hc , slow hc , and modern grass which is slower Novak dominated since 2011 . Federer lost 3 times to Novak at slams when he had 2 match points , that was not due to age , he didn't become grandpa when he needed 1 more point , Novak was just more clutch and never gave up and won , turning the tide on his side .
Nadal also never had a long period of his dominance , he could dominate 1 year and then he got overtaken by Novak . Nadal also has only 1 season where he won 3 slams compared to Roger and Novak who have 3 season with 3 slam wins . In that season he never played Roger and played Novak once in the US Open final . Novak also won 4 in a row , when did Roger or Nadal do that , oh right , never .
You can argue who the better / greater player is between Roger and Rafa but Novak is clearly number 1 .
@saula8948 don't even waste your breath trying to prove to fedheads that their era was weak. They'll tell you Roddick and Safin are better than Nadal and Murray 🤣
2015✅️ Most titules..3 GS, 6 ATP 1000, and World final🏆