It's very nice but I think that the structure of the tower and how it look may caused many victims who are there during the attack have PTSD and many other horible feelings coming back to them.
Yes, the stage was up during 9/11. I'm going to assume the "graphic details" he was referencing was the fact that many jumpers ended up hitting the stage that day.
@Ghangis24 Jesus. I even saw the bodies being splat too, I assume they prolly thought was the best spot since the roof was that material that's used In camping, don't quote me on that but is softer than the ground at least yk?
@@ThePrescriber I dont think when youre trapped in an office with fire all around you, you have much of a choice which side of the building you wanna jump from
I watched several videos and you keep getting your facts completely wrong. It’s the Austin J TOBIN plaza, not TUBIN. The Koenig Sphere is still intact and back at the World Trade Center Plaza, it was relocated in 2017 I believe.
Confirmed songs that played in the plaza within a half hour of the collapse in order: She’s Always a Woman Windless How Deep is Your Love Will You Come Back my Love
@@michaeldoldron8444 Okay... let me try that again: Big question though: How long would it have taken to clean up all of the debris that was scattered all over the plaza if the towers DIDN'T collapse. :/ (And yes I could of edited my original comment but oh well. :P)
Your September 11th videos are so informative and thought-provoking. I appreciate learning about all of these facts from your research and discussions. Keep up the great work man.
The Plaza used a Muzak satellite system connected to PA speakers installed in Summer 1998, it was connected to Muzak’s “Environmental” Channel, which is a satellite channel which plays easy listening instrumental covers of pop songs, aswell as original instrumental compositions, they had thousands of songs in rotation during this time. In the plaza footage from 9/11, 4 songs are captured. She’s Always A Woman (Muzak cover by Jim Devlin) originally by Billy Joel Windless (Original composition by pianist and composer Mike Strickland) How Deep Is Your Love (Muzak cover by Harley Music) originally by the Bee Gees (Will You) Come Back My Love (Muzak cover by Manasus Music) originally by The Wrens These are the only 4 captured on footage, however, many more songs would’ve played throughout the day, aswell as thousands of other songs from 1998 - 2001.
And to note that a year ago we found these originally unidentified muzak called Windless by Mike Strickland and Come Back My Love by Manaus Music but was found on a muzak satellite like this guy said and as of now we are still searching for all of the muzak played on 9/11 and before 9/11
In a weird, macabre and messed up way, the plaza playing the calm music as the towers were burning and heading toward collapse, reminds me of the band playing on the Titanic before it began its final plunge and break up
the proposal to rebuild the towers and make them taller was proposed by none other than Mr Donald Trump he held a press conference with replica models of the towers. i agree that we should of rebuilt them
The Plaza was no doubt the most disturbing place one could be at outside the buildings themselves (inside the buildings were probably real Horrors) One guy described the plaza as The Valley of death.
"I'm not going to go into the graphic details about the stage ... Well, the stage definitely played a big impact,..." please nu :< I'll never get that video out of my mind T.T
i always wondered how accurate the locations of the memorial pools are to the towers and if the memorial park is at the same level as the original plaza
From what I've been able to gather, the memorial park is at a slightly lower elevation than the plaza was (313 feet vs 327 feet). The pools are also slightly smaller than the original tower footprints (176 feet square compared to 210 ft 10in). As such their locations are not exactly the same, either. I think that's unfortunate because the vast majority of people visiting the memorial will assume that the pools accurately represent the towers. They will look across them and imagine how large the towers would look in that space, and they will be visualizing them 30% smaller than they actually were. There are places in the underground memorial where the location and size of the original buildings can be accurately seen, though.
The footprint of the south tower pool is slightly smaller , no idea why they made the pools smaller than the original footprint i guess they wanted to give visitors a sense of what it would be like to be in those buildings and stand where those firefighters , police officers and EMS personnel were killed that day.....many of them were in the south tower when it fell and they didn't survive.
@@josephbennett3482I think that’s what they were going for, they probably wanted visitors/the new generation to get an idea of what it was like to be inside those buildings.
That was my family hang out. Kids, wife only place i could get shoes to fit. Godiva chocolates. Many bookstores Out back the yachts. And further down by battery park more concerts. I will truly miss them.
i love your videos because this is an important topic in history where only recently youtube had shed light on the details of it.... i feel this will eventually be as big as TITANIC.....
I never went there until long after 9/11 but the buildings and plaza always fascinated me. the plaza was such a neat spot with 4,5 and 6 surrounding it. it's hard to get an idea of the scale. a 9 story building in most towns would be hard to not notice but they were completely dwarfed by their sisters. that and the use of the aluminum facade I always really liked. wish they were still around.
😭 Thank you for this. I used to sit and eat lunch around that sphere several times a week during the summer. There and behind the financial center by the water and yaghts were peaceful places to escape the bustle for awhile. Thank you again for continuing to do these videos! 💗
Those plans that they were talking about was cancelled from what I've read, I don't remember where, but it was not going to happen. The Plaza also had a Memorial to the 1993 bombing, it was close to one of the towers and the Marriott Hotel, they only found a small piece of it.
I didn't see The Sphere before I saw it in Liberty Park in 2015. I'm sure I saw it in pictures, but I never paid attention and wasn't familiar when I was there. It seems strange to me to see the Before images
Battery Park City has a special place called THE SKYSCRAPER MUSEUM. You can actually see a model of The Twin Towers that appeared at the 1964 World's Fair!
1:42 Wouldn't have been so nice.with this framework. At 2.00 it even looks like a jumping net, strange. Are the north and south pool exactly were the towers stood, or are they a little bit offset?
Thank you for making this video I didn’t know that the Plaza was apart of the World Trade Center, so thanks for the information. I would like to visit the Memorial Museum to pay my respects.
Rest in peace to those who died 🕊🤍 So sorry to their loved ones I am so sorry 🤍 My respect goes out to there loved ones❤ Thank you to those who tried saving another life during this including firefighters, doctors, nurses, police officers 💛 Thank you to those who built the World Trade Center ❤, hope they are doing well now , you are amazing
I think it did. It killed a woman who was trying to run back inside the north tower when the south tower got hit. It’s a video on UA-cam that showed the photo.
@@Petevg I forgot the name of the video, but i remembered it being a channel dedicated to coverage of 9/11 broadcast, personal videos etc… I believe it was a personal video of someone standing inside a building near by that caught the image.
@@AIRSOFTREEACTORhe clearly says that he wasn't going into detail about what happened in the plaza that day because it's UA-cam and he wants to keep all graphic content off his channel so he doesn't talk about that stuff.
What if your on the impact zone and you see the opening hole on the permimeter steel column and hide on it until collapse. Is it possible to survive it and later you be found in the rubble?
It's only right across the street from where it used to be , it now sits across the street from where the south tower used to sit , basically right below the impact point where the south tower's plane struck. Liberty Park is it's new home since they couldn't put it back in it's original place.
7:58 The concept art of the plaza with the memorials using the rubble of the original Twin Towers looks cool. Reminds me of the Roman Colosseum.
It's very nice but I think that the structure of the tower and how it look may caused many victims who are there during the attack have PTSD and many other horible feelings coming back to them.
I’m glad the Sphere survived
There were many bodies from jumpers in the plaza
7:37 Could I get details? was the stage during the 9/11?
Yes, there's a video with the stage visible during 9/11
Yes, the stage was up during 9/11. I'm going to assume the "graphic details" he was referencing was the fact that many jumpers ended up hitting the stage that day.
@Ghangis24 Jesus. I even saw the bodies being splat too, I assume they prolly thought was the best spot since the roof was that material that's used In camping, don't quote me on that but is softer than the ground at least yk?
Search youtube " WTC Plaza and "Center Stage" Tribute " to see some images both before and during the attack. Some are graphic towards the end.
@@ThePrescriber I dont think when youre trapped in an office with fire all around you, you have much of a choice which side of the building you wanna jump from
I watched several videos and you keep getting your facts completely wrong. It’s the Austin J TOBIN plaza, not TUBIN. The Koenig Sphere is still intact and back at the World Trade Center Plaza, it was relocated in 2017 I believe.
Confirmed songs that played in the plaza within a half hour of the collapse in order:
She’s Always a Woman
Windless
How Deep is Your Love
Will You Come Back my Love
could you provide a link to a video of it?
Big question though: How long would it have taken to clean up all of the debris that was scattered all over the plaza?
9 months total September 12, 2001 to May 30th 2002 last clean up and clearing out day
@@michaeldoldron8444 Okay... let me try that again:
Big question though: How long would it have taken to clean up all of the debris that was scattered all over the plaza if the towers DIDN'T collapse. :/
(And yes I could of edited my original comment but oh well. :P)
@@jimmyhook4852like maybe 4 days
After identifying bodies/remains etc
@@TNS17 Ok
Your September 11th videos are so informative and thought-provoking. I appreciate learning about all of these facts from your research and discussions. Keep up the great work man.
The Plaza used a Muzak satellite system connected to PA speakers installed in Summer 1998, it was connected to Muzak’s “Environmental” Channel, which is a satellite channel which plays easy listening instrumental covers of pop songs, aswell as original instrumental compositions, they had thousands of songs in rotation during this time. In the plaza footage from 9/11, 4 songs are captured.
She’s Always A Woman (Muzak cover by Jim Devlin) originally by Billy Joel
Windless (Original composition by pianist and composer Mike Strickland)
How Deep Is Your Love (Muzak cover by Harley Music) originally by the Bee Gees
(Will You) Come Back My Love (Muzak cover by Manasus Music) originally by The Wrens
These are the only 4 captured on footage, however, many more songs would’ve played throughout the day, aswell as thousands of other songs from 1998 - 2001.
And to note that a year ago we found these originally unidentified muzak called Windless by Mike Strickland and Come Back My Love by Manaus Music but was found on a muzak satellite like this guy said and as of now we are still searching for all of the muzak played on 9/11 and before 9/11
In a weird, macabre and messed up way, the plaza playing the calm music as the towers were burning and heading toward collapse, reminds me of the band playing on the Titanic before it began its final plunge and break up
the proposal to rebuild the towers and make them taller was proposed by none other than Mr Donald Trump he held a press conference with replica models of the towers. i agree that we should of rebuilt them
Its just ptsd fuel for many people
His name is pronounced "toe-bin" not "toobin". Good video though
Touched the sculpture when it was in Battery Park, could feel the sorrow and pain. Very heavy feeling attached to it
The sphere survived the collapse that's crazy 😧
i believe it's pronounced TOH-bin, not like toob-in as in loobin for toobin LOL
i remember an eye witness say they say a plane seat with a body laying in the plaza
The Plaza was no doubt the most disturbing place one could be at outside the buildings themselves (inside the buildings were probably real Horrors)
One guy described the plaza as The Valley of death.
"I'm not going to go into the graphic details about the stage ... Well, the stage definitely played a big impact,..." please nu :< I'll never get that video out of my mind T.T
Talking about LOL SUPERMAN?
i always wondered how accurate the locations of the memorial pools are to the towers and if the memorial park is at the same level as the original plaza
From what I've been able to gather, the memorial park is at a slightly lower elevation than the plaza was (313 feet vs 327 feet).
The pools are also slightly smaller than the original tower footprints (176 feet square compared to 210 ft 10in). As such their locations are not exactly the same, either.
I think that's unfortunate because the vast majority of people visiting the memorial will assume that the pools accurately represent the towers. They will look across them and imagine how large the towers would look in that space, and they will be visualizing them 30% smaller than they actually were.
There are places in the underground memorial where the location and size of the original buildings can be accurately seen, though.
@@jamesbooty :(
The footprint of the south tower pool is slightly smaller , no idea why they made the pools smaller than the original footprint i guess they wanted to give visitors a sense of what it would be like to be in those buildings and stand where those firefighters , police officers and EMS personnel were killed that day.....many of them were in the south tower when it fell and they didn't survive.
@@josephbennett3482I think that’s what they were going for, they probably wanted visitors/the new generation to get an idea of what it was like to be inside those buildings.
The picture of the stage made me very uneasy. Ive seen the video of someone falling onto it. The image has never left my head. So terrifying.
Didn't the bronze sculpture actually survive the collapse? IIRC it is on display at the 9/11 museum. It was damaged but mostly in tact.
it is located in Liberty Park, just across the street from the memorial.
That was my family hang out.
Kids, wife only place i could get shoes to fit.
Godiva chocolates.
Many bookstores
Out back the yachts.
And further down by battery park more concerts.
I will truly miss them.
i love your videos because this is an important topic in history where only recently youtube had shed light on the details of it.... i feel this will eventually be as big as TITANIC.....
Bro I’m liking all these World Trade Center videos 👏🏽👏🏽 very informative
I never went there until long after 9/11 but the buildings and plaza always fascinated me. the plaza was such a neat spot with 4,5 and 6 surrounding it. it's hard to get an idea of the scale. a 9 story building in most towns would be hard to not notice but they were completely dwarfed by their sisters. that and the use of the aluminum facade I always really liked. wish they were still around.
Its pronounced "Toe-bin"
It always feels weird to hear about serious planned illustrated renovations that never got a chance to be realised.
The sphere should have been put back to the nearest spot that it came from
It's pronounced "TOH-bin."
I was about to come and say it’s Toe-bin
All the vehicles that were destroyed was prob to many to count.
You should make a video about the mall
I got to visit the sphere in 2019, it was in the park on liberty street at that time
The plaza completely broke inwards due to the towers crumbling to the ground.
😭 Thank you for this. I used to sit and eat lunch around that sphere several times a week during the summer. There and behind the financial center by the water and yaghts were peaceful places to escape the bustle for awhile. Thank you again for continuing to do these videos! 💗
Those plans that they were talking about was cancelled from what I've read, I don't remember where, but it was not going to happen. The Plaza also had a Memorial to the 1993 bombing, it was close to one of the towers and the Marriott Hotel, they only found a small piece of it.
I rarely see videos about the clean up effort
I didn't see The Sphere before I saw it in Liberty Park in 2015. I'm sure I saw it in pictures, but I never paid attention and wasn't familiar when I was there. It seems strange to me to see the Before images
One of your best! Did the Marriott move across the street and stay in business?
What ever happened to the original models of the world trade center complex and the world trade centers themselves
Larry Silverstien has all of it.
Battery Park City has a special place called THE SKYSCRAPER MUSEUM. You can actually see a model of The Twin Towers that appeared at the 1964 World's Fair!
I remember there was a drug deal gone bad and shoot out that occurred there during the mid 1980s late at night. I saw it on Miami Vice.
“Authoratized” lol it’s called authorized
What is the plane crashed into the north tower but didn’t crash into the south
1:42 Wouldn't have been so nice.with this framework. At 2.00 it even looks like a jumping net, strange. Are the north and south pool exactly were the towers stood, or are they a little bit offset?
I don’t think the pools are offset, however they are smaller than the actual footprint of the twin towers.
Thank you for making this video I didn’t know that the Plaza was apart of the World Trade Center, so thanks for the information.
I would like to visit the Memorial Museum to pay my respects.
Rest in peace to those who died 🕊🤍
So sorry to their loved ones
I am so sorry 🤍
My respect goes out to there loved ones❤
Thank you to those who tried saving another life during this including firefighters, doctors, nurses, police officers 💛
Thank you to those who built the World Trade Center ❤, hope they are doing well now , you are amazing
Keep up the great work, my friend. 🦾
Did any of the first debris that fell kill anybody
Yes but she died months later in a hospital burn unit she was hit with the landing gear
@@Chronically_JBoo dam didn't remember that story
I think it did. It killed a woman who was trying to run back inside the north tower when the south tower got hit. It’s a video on UA-cam that showed the photo.
@@ricotheofficialwhats the name of that video?
@@Petevg I forgot the name of the video, but i remembered it being a channel dedicated to coverage of 9/11 broadcast, personal videos etc… I believe it was a personal video of someone standing inside a building near by that caught the image.
It was splattered remains of bodies of people who jumped 😢
Im surprised he didn’t mention that. Because that was my first thought too.
@@AIRSOFTREEACTORhe clearly says that he wasn't going into detail about what happened in the plaza that day because it's UA-cam and he wants to keep all graphic content off his channel so he doesn't talk about that stuff.
What if your on the impact zone and you see the opening hole on the permimeter steel column and hide on it until collapse. Is it possible to survive it and later you be found in the rubble?
100% no as
A:It was to high up
B:you would be crushed
C:the exterior basically shed as they collapsed
Edna Cintron was inside. She died during the collapse.
The sphere is onsite
The sphere is installed in the upper garden of the memorial in the plaza. Do the research!!
Where is that spherical sculpture now?
It’s in Liberty Park in NYC
It's only right across the street from where it used to be , it now sits across the street from where the south tower used to sit , basically right below the impact point where the south tower's plane struck.
Liberty Park is it's new home since they couldn't put it back in it's original place.
Lol Superman ?
So many of these videos on UA-cam are absolutely pointless. These people who post these things are desperate for money
Simple solution: don’t watch. A lot of us are fascinated with these types of videos
People like you just love to complain
I love your videos bro keep making them
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